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Muddamandaram
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Indiarocks:




they can be tampered in storage post elections and pre counting.
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to my knowledge, DEMO voting choopinchi 'actual voting vesaru'.

then the voter was allowed to press the button. 2nd time elagu register avvadu

so, this way villages lo each booth ki sagam votes ila vesaru anta
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Scallion:

I have one question @ Indiarocks

1. How random do you think the EVM machines are tested

2. How intense do you think EVM machines are tested

3. on top of the above two, per my knowledge EVM's manufactured by a specific supplier are tested before they finalize the purchase order and not when the supplier supplies the actual product.... this is the case at least for much of the Govt purchases, I don't think EVM is any better




EVMs ki suppliers ECIL, and BEL. They test them before releasing.

Before each election they are tested by each officer.

I believe that they need to be tested comprehensively before each poll by the officers. That is why I mentioned this -

Indiarocks:

But, a better testing procedure to detect tampered EVMs can help. Randomly some booths can be selected to have both EVM, and ballot, and if it is proved that both counts match always, it proves that EVMs are safe.



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What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Scallion:

I agree with all the above said that, EVM ni tamper cheyatam chala easy how about laloochi with the manufacturer ??? one centralized effort and results unlimited




I have one question @ Indiarocks

1. How random do you think the EVM machines are tested

2. How intense do you think EVM machines are tested

3. on top of the above two, per my knowledge EVM's manufactured by a specific supplier are tested before they finalize the purchase order and not when the supplier supplies the actual product.... this is the case at least for much of the Govt purchases, I don't think EVM is any better
Jai NTR, Jai Jai TDP

P.S : I am fan of my caste........
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I repeat ECIL director and Jagan met many times and EVM are 100% Tamperable ...afterall its a not Rocket Science ...but we Indians are any ways ...
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Indiarocks:

1. EVM. Allegation enti ante they can be tampered, and nobody will know.

a. Election mundu tamper cheyali ante, mundu large number of EVMs ni dongalinchali.
b. Vaatini tamper cheyali. Ippati daka India lo jaragaledu ee pani. Only Univ of Michigan lo oka lab lo cheya galigaru. So, infra is an issue.
c. Tamper chesina EVMs malli tirigi same seal chesi pettali. EVMs replace chestunte, they should have the same serial numbers.
d. Ippudu asalu vishayam, ye EVM ye polling booth ki veltundi evariki mundu teliyadu. It is known only a few days before the election
e. Inkaaa kastam aina vishayam, EVM meeda candidates order mundu teliyadu. Adi teliyakunda tamper chesina waste. So, a to c complete cheyataniki few days window untundi.
f. Inka migilindi election taruvatha tampering, daaniki security ni manage cheyali, same a to c points repeat cheyali.




I agree with all the above said that, EVM ni tamper cheyatam chala easy how about laloochi with the manufacturer ??? one centralized effort and results unlimited
Jai NTR, Jai Jai TDP

P.S : I am fan of my caste........
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I have seen that video long time ago.
EVMs ki mana EC provide chese secure environment ni, security procedures ni ignore chesi stand alone EVM tamper cheyachu ani vadisthe anthakante murkhatvam ledu.

EVM daaka enduku, given the access even our defense systems can be hacked. Asalu non-breachable system anedi undadu.

Not being able to detect tampered EVM is a concern. That is why I mentioned the need for better testing.

Inka remote control anta, blue tooth anta. Oka reku dabba ni same serial number tho replace cheyadam kante avi easy anta. Ila vadinche vallatho disc waste
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKE4BBxb3Uk

veedu raise chesina points ki mee thoughts ivvandi
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Muddamandaram:




Masteru nidarpoyinnatuu natinchevadni emi lepathovu ...enni evidences links choopinchina manodiki ardam kavatledhu lite lelo bhayya
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Indiarocks ella undo chusi chesinaaa chaalaa vulnerabilities unnayi meeru seppina theorylooo.

The serial numbers that are on the ballot box are not replaceable.
As far as technology is concerned still it is untracaeble
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he he he....nuvvu continue ayyipo engineer half knowledge tho....manaki tv remotes tappa pedhaga telisinattu ledhu
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Vjavasi:

ee discussion inthaki mundhu kooda jarigindhi.....any electronic device can be manipulated by a remote........tampering ki special EVM's ni tayaru cheyyatam pedha kastam aa?....election mundhu kaani, taravatha kaani easy ga tamper cheyyochu......intha simple logic ardham kaadhu mari engineers ki...kaneesam videos anna sarigga choodandi ekili navvulu navve mundhu




Ye remote annai, TV remote aa?
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Vjavasi:

any electronic device can be manipulated by a remote.





The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable.

What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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ee discussion inthaki mundhu kooda jarigindhi.....any electronic device can be manipulated by a remote........tampering ki special EVM's ni tayaru cheyyatam pedha kastam aa?....election mundhu kaani, taravatha kaani easy ga tamper cheyyochu......intha simple logic ardham kaadhu mari engineers ki...kaneesam videos anna sarigga choodandi ekili navvulu navve mundhu
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Muddamandaram:

6 hrs of access to 4 members to one counting centre will easily help them tamper 15 centres location.
They will not change the entireee pollig booths data.

They will play with 20 to 30 polling booths which had negativevoting for them. 2 temas should easily help tamper 120 constituencies.




Ballot box replacement ki ee gola antha akkarledu. Polling roju ballot box ela undi chooskuni, ballot paper andulo veyakunda jebulo pettukosthe chalu.

Bayata ballot boxlu cheyinchi, andulo ballot paperlu mana istam vachinatlu gudhi nimpi, ee box lu akkada pettadam, aa boxlu ethuku ravatam..

Thats it, all taken care of...
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Muddamandaram:

ballot replacing is not easy.. That will leave physical evidence of the crime against the state. Anyone will think 100 times before doing it.
iASlanee konagaliginollaki ECIL loo 8velaki pani chese kurrollani 15 dayski hire chesukovatam kashtam kaadu.
oka 80 constituencies pick chesukuni workout cheyyatam chaala easy.




LOL..Ballot ante oka dabba. Ballot paper ante just a printed paper.

Ivi replace cheyatam kastama.

EVM hack cheyatam easy aa? Konchem vaadandi babu...

Ballot box ki entha security untundo, EVM ki same security untundi, after polling and before counting...
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EVM is not rocket science.

Daaniki tevalsina avsaram ledu.
6 hrs of access to 4 members to one counting centre will easily help them tamper 15 centres location.
They will not change the entireee pollig booths data.

They will play with 20 to 30 polling booths which had negativevoting for them. 2 temas should easily help tamper 120 constituencies.
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Indiarocks

ballot replacing is not easy.. That will leave physical evidence of the crime against the state. Anyone will think 100 times before doing it.
iASlanee konagaliginollaki ECIL loo 8velaki pani chese kurrollani 15 dayski hire chesukovatam kashtam kaadu.
oka 80 constituencies pick chesukuni workout cheyyatam chaala easy.
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Indiarocks:

EVM access lekunda ela tamper chestaru Annai, konchem cheppara.




bump for EK.
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Muddamandaram:

tampering jarigindi elections ayyaaka countingki munduuu antunnaaamu kadaaa.
Deeniki scope undaa ledaa
24 days window undi.
Saripoddi anukuntunnaaa.




Election ayyaka EVM teesukochi tampering chesi tirigi akkada pettatam easy naa..

Ballot box lu motham replace cheyatam easy aa with fake votes?

First case lo EVM ni tamper cheyali, adi cheyataniki konchem engg knowledge unnavallu kavali.

Ballot aithe, same ballot box cheyinchi, ballot paper cheyiste chalu, enni boxlu aina replace cheyachu.

Edi easy, once you have breached the security, common sense...
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Indiarocks

tampering jarigindi elections ayyaaka countingki munduuu antunnaaamu kadaaa.
Deeniki scope undaa ledaa
24 days window undi.
Saripoddi anukuntunnaaa.
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Vjavasi:

daani muttukokundane tamper cheseyochu



remoting seyyocchantaava
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Entikaburlu:

definitely. deeniki debug monitor via serial/usb port lekunda asalu system ela design chestaru?




EVM access lekunda ela tamper chestaru Annai, konchem cheppara.
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What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Vjavasi:

EVM's tamper cheyyatam chaala easy.....asalu seal open cheyyakunda, daani muttukokundane tamper cheseyochu





The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable.

What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Vjavasi:

EVM's tamper cheyyatam chaala easy.....asalu seal open cheyyakunda, daani muttukokundane tamper cheseyochu




definitely. deeniki debug monitor via serial/usb port lekunda asalu system ela design chestaru?
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EVM's tamper cheyyatam chaala easy.....asalu seal open cheyyakunda, daani muttukokundane tamper cheseyochu
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Babu sakshi reader Indiarocks ..deeniki reply ivvu ..nuvvu cheppina prathi daniki
crontadict chestundi ..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKE4BBxb3Uk
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Corruption ki YSR/Jagan corruption, CBN corruption, 2G corruption, center corruption, state corruption ane thedalu untaya?






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Inthaki aa you tube video lo aratip andu valichi choopettadu
maree daani meeda mee comments emiti?
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nenu anukunnadhi nijam aithe potee kudaa cheyyadu yee saari
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Avannee kaadhu gaani JP malli gelusthaada?



monna kuda caste support unna chota vesaadu kabatti save ayyadu, plus trs opposite...ee sari assam
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Pacha Bala Shiksha standard lessons.


JP middle class midi midi educated ki manchi entertainment isthaadu peekedhem leka poyina...malli cheppe kaburlu maatram
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Chiru aithe

Palakollu Usharani, 292-18

JP aithe,

Kukatpally lo gelustada, kodithe case enduku pettaledu.

Pacha Bala Shiksha standard lessons.


The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable.

What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Avannee kaadhu gaani JP malli gelusthaada?
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Hehe...there is a way aa...

Agri is both under the state and center. State Govt has the power to issue that GO ani vaadistaru.




olu vaadinchaaru

Seed price kosam court ki vellaru, deeni meedha emanna try chesaara ani questioning
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Basky_indya:

ante. nenu ala kooda system ni follow ayyi,

test chesi etc, license teeskunna.

bill goriki atla icchesaru ani septhunna without any validation document




sarle vo, bill collector goru vachi mana india lo nadipettaru anena ee gola anthaa, edho try chesaadu, baane vaatha padindhi gaa
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Andaru Paritala daivam ani


wattaryuu talking, parits amar rahe..dedicated thread, no comedy posts
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what is the effect of these EVMs in 2009 elections ?
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Repu JP gaaru evarnanna murder chesina IR kurrodu loka kalyanam kosame ani nammuthaadu :D




Asalu JP ni nammede murderlu etc cheyadu ani.

ASalu criminals ki ticket ivvadam lo No1 mana party...Andaru Paritala daivam ani pacha bala siksha lo chaduvukoru...LOL
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What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Repu JP gaaru evarnanna murder chesina IR kurrodu loka kalyanam kosame ani nammuthaadu :D
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where there is will there is way maa

Kinda Jp_rocks kurrodu antunnadu Unconstitutional ani, Muslim reservations ee aapesaaru, sitting in Supreme Court, if at all this is unconstitutional then Courts would have thrown this GO/Rule out long time ago

Naaku endhuko namma buddi kaavatledhu





Hehe...there is a way aa...

Agri is both under the state and center. State Govt has the power to issue that GO ani vaadistaru.
The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable.

What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Assembly, requests to CM anni aipoyayi.


aina legal gaane poradaali gaani yee adda daarulenti...prajalloki elaanti message velthundi? saduvukunnodi kanna scientist nayam
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Ee vishayam lo there is nothing else he could do.

Assembly, requests to CM anni aipoyayi.

Idi meeku telisi adugutunnaru ani naku telsu.



where there is will there is way maa

Kinda Jp_rocks kurrodu antunnadu Unconstitutional ani, Muslim reservations ee aapesaaru, sitting in Supreme Court, if at all this is unconstitutional then Courts would have thrown this GO/Rule out long time ago

Naaku endhuko namma buddi kaavatledhu
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Jr Docs strike ante kooda support chesa


goppa pani chesaav...edanna award iddhaam
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ante. nenu ala kooda system ni follow ayyi,

test chesi etc, license teeskunna.

bill goriki atla icchesaru ani septhunna without any validation document
kRUshITHO nAsthee dURbhikSHAM!!
JP_ROCKS: ...der unte enchakka andarni giant wheel ekkistadu..girrr mani oogachu..
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adhin anthaa OK kaani, mana JP goru Law ni chethiloki endhuku teesukunaaru ?




Ee vishayam lo there is nothing else he could do.

Assembly, requests to CM anni aipoyayi.

Idi meeku telisi adugutunnaru ani naku telsu.
The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable.

What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Basky_indya:

Maa father TWINS bhills office ki incharge ga vunde. Incometax tarafuna.


Good to know, but what does Income tax has anything to do with the topic here.. bodha padale
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Vulavacharu:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKE4BBxb3Uk




I have seen that video long ago.

Still my first post is valid.
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Speed choopettadu, system sooper ani ekkada seppu koledhu, ofcourse clinton kalchi vaatha pettadu anuko, by saying " I have to go through lot of crap to get his in my country" ani




Maa father TWINS bhills office ki incharge ga vunde. Incometax tarafuna.
kRUshITHO nAsthee dURbhikSHAM!!
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Indiarocks:

Mundu 1st post chadivi appudu ela hack chestaru cheppu.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKE4BBxb3Uk
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aavesam lo edho anaali ani antunnav kaani, Local drivers licence lekunda IDL ela isthaadu, Clinton ki ichindhi driver's licence

Speed choopettadu, system sooper ani ekkada seppu koledhu, ofcourse clinton kalchi vaatha pettadu anuko, by saying " I have to go through lot of crap to get his in my country" ani




Clinton enduku vatha pettado, nenu navvutunnadi same reason.
The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable.

What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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adhin anthaa OK kaani, mana JP goru Law ni chethiloki endhuku teesukunaaru ?
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Meeke kaadu US citizen aina Bill Gates ki kooda 5min lo ippinchadu IDL Babu.

Paiga maa system choosara entha supero annadu.




aavesam lo edho anaali ani antunnav kaani, Local drivers licence lekunda IDL ela isthaadu, Clinton ki ichindhi driver's licence

Speed choopettadu, system sooper ani ekkada seppu koledhu, ofcourse clinton kalchi vaatha pettadu anuko, by saying " I have to go through lot of crap to get his in my country" ani
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Paiga maa system choosara entha supero annadu.




aayana verri navvu navvi, next time vocchi accident chestha annadu

inka undha RENWAL chesara
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Indiarocks:

Meeke kaadu US citizen aina Bill Gates ki kooda 5min lo ippinchadu IDL Babu.

Paiga maa system choosara entha supero annadu.




Btw Bill Gates kaadu, Bill Clinton anukunta
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Naaku IDL 5 mins lone vachindhi, ofcourse koncham chethulu tadipaanu anuko




Meeke kaadu US citizen aina Bill Gates ki kooda 5min lo ippinchadu IDL Babu.

Paiga maa system choosara entha supero annadu.


The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable.

What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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HITEK Babu kooda Lowtech EVM ni tamper seyocchu antunnadu kadha

rest mee 5 mins lo DMV license




antha maata annada, aithe right ee ayyi untadhi

Naaku IDL 5 mins lone vachindhi, ofcourse koncham chethulu tadipaanu anuko
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em jarugutondhi ikkada




HITEK Babu kooda Lowtech EVM ni tamper seyocchu antunnadu kadha

rest mee 5 mins lo DMV license
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em jarugutondhi ikkada

If some rule is unconstitutional, JP should have moved to court, we have seen quite a few GOs thrown out by courts, then why did JP take law into his hands? Is he provoking people against the system? Is he trying to turn into a mass leader by burning down something?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKE4BBxb3Uk
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Mari antha dhairyam unna babu center lo Lokpal bill ki against gaa enduku vote veyinchadu, state lo Lokayukta bill meeda silent ga enduku unnadu?


sakshi style lo undhi argument tammudu :-)

anyway mine was like rhetorical question, jumps
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Power antoo vasthe corruption cheyyali anukune vadiki chance lekapotam okati untadha Ind lo?




Sarina system unte kachitam gaa bhayapadali.

Yeddy power lone unnadu monnati daka, ippudu ekkada unnadu?

US lo power lo unna Nixon paristiti emayyindi?

If it is possible in the US, it is possible in India also.
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Babais, nibhanDhanalaku atheetham gaa ye vatuvuni ayinAa border dhaatinchi Pakka rashtram lo beedar loo challesthe dhannii smuggling Ane antaru




Caddy garu, pacha bala siksha lo smuggling gurinchi inkaa em chepparu?
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I dont doubt his honesty but I think he is scared ani naa opinion. Akkada high court judge teerpu istene caste ni chusi Yerramnaidu chuttam, CBI Lakshminarayan ni chupinchi Payyavula Kesav bandhuvu ani pracharam chesindi Sakshi. Same with Communist batch ni.

Inka JP porapatuna dhariyamga noru teriste Jp meedha kooda adhe avutundi ani bhayam JP ki.




2G lo atu vaipu unnadi power lo unna Congi Govt. Daani mundu Jagan entha?

Mari antha dhairyam unna babu center lo Lokpal bill ki against gaa enduku vote veyinchadu, state lo Lokayukta bill meeda silent ga enduku unnadu?
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What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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ye manam power loki vasthe chance potundi ana?




Power antoo vasthe corruption cheyyali anukune vadiki chance lekapotam okati untadha Ind lo?
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YSR/Jagan corruption


I dont doubt his honesty but I think he is scared ani naa opinion. Akkada high court judge teerpu istene caste ni chusi Yerramnaidu chuttam, CBI Lakshminarayan ni chupinchi Payyavula Kesav bandhuvu ani pracharam chesindi Sakshi. Same with Communist batch ni.

Inka JP porapatuna dhariyamga noru teriste Jp meedha kooda adhe avutundi ani bhayam JP ki.
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IR tammudu, state lo YSR/Jagan corruption meeda why no souds from JP? Center lo 2g ki Loksatta edo chesindi state lo emanna chesinda?




Corruption ki YSR/Jagan corruption, CBN corruption, 2G corruption, center corruption, state corruption ane thedalu untaya?

YSR/Jagan corruption meeda intha badha unte 2009 lo Lokayukta bill ki support ivvachu gaa, ye manam power loki vasthe chance potundi ana?
The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable.

What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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It may be right but JP violated rules (the law of land) when he moved the Rice


the law is against our constitution babai...asalu aa law ne pedda boothu and is a testimony to our f'ed up politics..

aina rules gurinchi tdp thammullu matladdam enti, paritaala supporters adi kuda :-)
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It may be right but JP violated rules (the law of land) when he moved the Rice
If I did the same thing I would be in trouble.

That doesn't mean I agree with the rules. Those are some insane independent era rules. I can move natything to any where in India and sell
But if that is something I cultivatedI can not.
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Indiarocks:


IR tammudu, state lo YSR/Jagan corruption meeda why no souds from JP? Center lo 2g ki Loksatta edo chesindi state lo emanna chesinda?
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Babais, nibhanDhanalaku atheetham gaa ye vatuvuni ayinAa border dhaatinchi Pakka rashtram lo beedar loo challesthe dhannii smuggling Ane antaru


iphone posting aa....ee disco already aipoindi, aa nibandhana ye oka nibandhana ni ullanghinchindi ani
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Babais, nibhanDhanalaku atheetham gaa ye vatuvuni ayinAa border dhaatinchi Pakka rashtram lo beedar loo challesthe dhannii smuggling Ane antaru
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lolll... pacha kaladdalu eskunna vallaki lokam antha pachagane kanifisthundhi... JP ni smuggler ante inka mana pacha loka janalani emanalo




Prathpaksham ante Govt eddem anna prathi daniki theddem anali
Congi, TDP thappa inkoka party undakudadu AP lo
Rajakeeyalu ante prajala kosam kaadu, oka party ni oppose cheyatam kosam
Manam annitlo Congi ni follow authamu kaani manam chesina panini vimarsisthe vaadu Congi agent.

Idee Pacha Bala Siksha. Fully trained akkada.
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What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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//
Election ayyaka counting mundu store chesi unna whole ballot box ni replace cheyachu. Ballot box ni, ballot paper ni replace cheyatam kastam kaadu kada. Ballot box ni replace chesinattu kooda evariki teliyadu.
//
You are misunderstanding me, the little slip is the back up when some one challenges the EVM.
adhe vuntre ee disco ne anavsaram.
In that way you are not creating un necessary doubts in the system that will select the future of the country
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Caddy:

Ysr or Jagan meedha okka allegation chesthe chali,egesukuntaaa vachi support chestaru eeee smuggler JP fans loll
Thappu ledhu le,payroll meedha vunnapudu aaa matram viswasam choopinchAli




lolll... pacha kaladdalu eskunna vallaki lokam antha pachagane kanifisthundhi... JP ni smuggler ante inka mana pacha loka janalani emanalo
Chinnu:Evadraaa babu aa posters eesindi .. Nandamuri ani kooda sariggaa raayaledu .. thuu edavalu
Coolmac 2 Chinnu: akkada prestige motham debba ayipothunte, neeku spelling kavalsochindhaa
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Caddy:

smuggler JP


babai avasarama idi...pls refrain.....friendly reminder anuko :-)
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Indiarocks tamud meeee intlooo maaanchi basmati rice vunte cheppu,
Beedar looo challleddaaam kikk
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assale random, nuvvu cheppinattu
vallu paln chesin achotla veelu random cheyali ga, there are many unknown holes and election is very important issue for the future of the country
it should be 100% for the people not to loose hopes in this means

oka chinna paper will not cost as much as the cost of credibility in the process my2p




Election ayyaka counting mundu store chesi unna whole ballot box ni replace cheyachu. Ballot box ni, ballot paper ni replace cheyatam kastam kaadu kada. Ballot box ni replace chesinattu kooda evariki teliyadu.

Mee logic prakaram, ippati varaku jarigina anni elections 100% foulproof kaadu
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What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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//But, a better testing procedure to detect tampered EVMs can help. Randomly some booths can be selected to have both EVM, and ballot, and if it is proved that both counts match always, it proves that EVMs are safe.
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assale random, nuvvu cheppinattu
vallu paln chesin achotla veelu random cheyali ga, there are many unknown holes and election is very important issue for the future of the country
it should be 100% for the people not to loose hopes in this means

oka chinna paper will not cost as much as the cost of credibility in the process my2p
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Time_pass:

button nokka ka oka chinna paper print chesi(with the voters selection) adi pakkana oka ballot box lo vesi cheyamante
enduku election commission antha ginju kuntadi?

just what is wrong in having a back up?
instead of having all these questions it will create confidence in the minds of people



Indiarocks:

But, a better testing procedure to detect tampered EVMs can help. Randomly some booths can be selected to have both EVM, and ballot, and if it is proved that both counts match always, it proves that EVMs are safe.



The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable.

What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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button nokka ka oka chinna paper print chesi(with the voters selection) adi pakkana oka ballot box lo vesi cheyamante
enduku election commission antha ginju kuntadi?

just what is wrong in having a back up?
instead of having all these questions it will create confidence in the minds of people
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Sakshi readers tho argue cheyadam kante worst thing inkoti undadu ...




sakshi reader evaru nuvva?

Sare, ru an electronics engineer?
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Sakshi readers tho argue cheyadam kante worst thing inkoti undadu ...
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Mastreo420:

Akkada electronics vere laga pani chesthaya ..cheppandi engineer garu ..




Enti electronics antha okatena...


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Indiarocks:

engineer kaani engineer aa system, mana system totally different. hehe




Akkada electronics vere laga pani chesthaya ..cheppandi engineer garu ..
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Dude oka machine ni hack chesthe andulo votes anni oka second lo update cheyachhu ani cheppa ..




Mundu 1st post chadivi appudu ela hack chestaru cheppu.
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So called engineer eeda sadvu ..which is better ..

http://www.electronic-vote.org/INTRO/almassimo_en.php




engineer kaani engineer aa system, mana system totally different. hehe
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Dude oka machine ni hack chesthe andulo votes anni oka second lo update cheyachhu ani cheppa ..
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So called engineer eeda sadvu ..which is better ..

http://www.electronic-vote.org/INTRO/almassimo_en.php
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Caddy:

Ysr or Jagan meedha okka allegation chesthe chali,egesukuntaaa vachi support chestaru eeee smuggler JP fans loll
Thappu ledhu le,payroll meedha vunnapudu aaa matram viswasam choopinchAli




Jr Docs strike ante kooda support chesa.

Bottom line common sense. TTs adi vadilesi TDP membership teeskuntaru...kiki
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500000 ki one sec pattachhu hacking




LOL...50000 machines one sec lo hacking chestava? EVM ante internet ki connect ayyi unna computer anukunnava enti?



Ballot paper di emundi, okadu vote veyakunda jebulo pettukuni vaste chalu, you can reproduce it as it is.
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chaa, election ayyaka ballot box teliyakunda replace chestaru with identical ballot papers, appudu repoll autunda?

I cannot believe I am speaking with engg graduates.



Same feeling here ..

Babu physical people presence avasaram ....oka vote ki oka color xerox kavali...
500000 ki one sec pattachhu hacking ..50000 xerox replace cheyali ante antha easy kadu ..It can be caught with public and meadia eye
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Programming can be do mass update easier in split of second ..without anybody's knowledge.





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What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Ballot paper easy ayyundachhu but purpose will not be solved ..endukante repoll avvudhi




chaa, election ayyaka ballot box teliyakunda replace chestaru with identical ballot papers, appudu repoll autunda?

I cannot believe I am speaking with engg graduates.
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Oka color xerox pettukuni ballot box replace cheyadam easy aa,




Programming can be do mass update easier in split of second ..without anybody's knowledge.
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Endeyya vaadedi ...Nobody can belive it can be tampered.Thats good thing about this..Ballot paper easy ayyundachhu but purpose will not be solved ..endukante repoll avvudhi
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JP velli nibandhanalaku virudham gaa biyyam ammukolaa...smugler JP




Konchem vaadu, anduke JP legal help annadi..kiki...

sour grapes babu, odipoyinanduku dlm EVM, Loksatta, PRP...the list is endless
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he stole Govt property.


JP velli nibandhanalaku virudham gaa biyyam ammukolaa...smugler JP
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Votes vesaka counting ki chala rojula difference untundhi ....Moreover ippudu anni district head quartes lo chesthunnaru kabbatti its more easier.




Ballot box aina kooda counting ki time difference untundi kada? Oka color xerox pettukuni ballot box replace cheyadam easy aa, ee tampering, hacking, engineers etc setup easy aa?

Konchem vaadandayya babu..
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Mundu tampering chestharu ani neeku evaru chepparu ..If they can be tampered thats enough,It can be done any time..

Votes vesaka counting ki chala rojula difference untundhi ....Moreover ippudu anni district head quartes lo chesthunnaru kabbatti its more easier.
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ento adhi holiday ivvandi




he stole Govt property.
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then why this? antan eeyanaki kooda evo anumaanalu vunnayi kada?


the intent is to make EVMs even safer by doing whatever he could to indentify loopholes

there's a lot of difference b/w pulling the plug on EVMs and making them safer

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Indiarocks:

the path he took was wrong,


ento adhi holiday ivvandi
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Time_pass:

http://www.fullhyderabad.com/hyderabad-news/lok-satta-party- willing-to-extend-legal-help-to-evm-whistleblower-1451

then why this? antan eeyanaki kooda evo anumaanalu vunnayi kada?





Athani opinion tho agree avvakapovachu, the path he took was wrong, but there is no question that his intentions were noble. Hence the legal help.
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What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Methati_idly:

oora naatu GUDDHUDU kante EVMs infinite times better ani oppukoniki what problem rey?




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Time_pass:

then why this? antan eeyanaki kooda evo anumaanalu vunnayi kada?


asalu adhi sadivava? annee ayane antaadu...conpused pello
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http://www.fullhyderabad.com/hyderabad-news/lok-satta-party- willing-to-extend-legal-help-to-evm-whistleblower-1451

then why this? antan eeyanaki kooda evo anumaanalu vunnayi kada?
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oora naatu GUDDHUDU kante EVMs infinite times better ani oppukoniki what problem rey?
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Nuvvu Ban kaaledha?? naa post waste aipoindhaa



DB chala develop ayyindi ippudu, kindha link chusuko. Evaro evarno ban anagane nammeyamaku :-)

http://www.chalanachithram.com/discus/banned-users.php
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Chinnu:

Subbuu Swamy TT aa .. Sense leeni sakshi readers




Ante sense lekapovadam only TTs patent aa? Swamy kooda appudappudu sense lekunda behave cheyachu...aa..


The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable.

What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Motham yavvaram lo Lagadapati hand vundhi...yes I am telling that
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Nuvvu Ban kaaledha?? naa post waste aipoindhaa
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for sure chiru ki poyina aaa close call seats anni EVM tampering thone.. lekunte chiru ki 50+ seats vacchevi
Papi gadu post este katthi la digali

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Subbuu Swamy TT aa .. Sense leeni sakshi readers
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trying to put some sense? into what sort of creatures?

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vere vallaki evadiki vote vesina anduloo min % Hasthaniki padithe chalu. hastham vi elagoo hasthaniki padettu untundi.... Hastham lekapothe valla alliance symbol ki... oka logik raasukunte saalu..




Order teliyakapothe hastam ki raasina logic tho TDP ki padutundi..LOL...
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Ide logic aithe anything in the world can be tampered. Mana defense network loki access ivvandi hackers ki. Given enough time hack chesi choopistaru.

Key is security for both the EVM, and ballot box.

Once security is breached, ballot box is 1000 times easier to tamper than EVM. This is the basic point.
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veezy ga tamper cheyochu..

desam lo ee tech lu kastam... naatu vaidyam ee best..
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The catch is how will he know which EVM goes into which booth, and what is the order of the cnadidates?




vere vallaki evadiki vote vesina anduloo min % Hasthaniki padithe chalu. hastham vi elagoo hasthaniki padettu untundi.... Hastham lekapothe valla alliance symbol ki... oka logik raasukunte saalu..
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Babu naa post complete ga chadavandi. Tamper chesaru ani nenu kooda mention chesanu. But the Election Ecosystem is what makes the EVM stronger.

Candidates order mundu teliyakunda naaluka geeskotanika tamper chesindi?
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pedda secured websites, secured human surveillance ni beat chestunapudu EVM emanna 100% gaurantee naa?
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Risingstar:

one guy proved this, i don remember his name, they put him behind bars he is scientist or some ias officer. jp also condemned his arrest.
he challeneged, he will prove if the govt agrees for it infront of media. govt never replie.




Yes, I know this.

EVM ni Election Ecosystem nundi bayatiki oka lab ki teeskuni poyi tamper chesi choopinchadu. The catch is how will he know which EVM goes into which booth, and what is the order of the cnadidates?
The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable.

What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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Indiarocks:

Vaatini tamper cheyali. Ippati daka India lo jaragaledu ee pani. Only Univ of Michigan lo oka lab lo cheya galigaru. So, infra is an issue.




They have proved that it can be done locally also


Indiarocks:

c. Tamper chesina EVMs malli tirigi same seal chesi pettali. EVMs replace chestunte, they should have the same serial numbers.




Tamper does not mean it has to be literally changed . it can be hacked too
Jai TDP .. Jai Jai TDP ..
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Instead of blindly accepting the government's claims, Prasad's international team discovered serious flaws that could alter national election results.


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EVM is tamper porrf kadu ani prove sesaru ga
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Chinnu:Evadraaa babu aa posters eesindi .. Nandamuri ani kooda sariggaa raayaledu .. thuu edavalu
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Immotional_hatyachar:

symbol telusu kada




Symbol teliyatam enti babu.

Symbols ni EVMs ki election mundu athikistaru, buttons pakkana. Aa symbols ye order lo untayi, ante ye button nokkite ye party ki vote padutundi annadi election ki mundu decide chestaru. Aa order entha mandi independents unnaru, evaru nomination withdraw cheskunnaru, evari nomination reject ayyindi, entha mandi nomination vesaru veeti meeda depend autundi which is know only a few days before the election.
The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable.

What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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symbol telusu kada




No it does not work out like that .. for example there are 20 Candidates in a constituency .. then order of those 20 candidates along with symbols will be decided by EC .. and then it reflects the same thing on EVM's ... so there is no chance that order will be same for all constituencies
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1. EVM. Allegation enti ante they can be tampered, and nobody will know.




one guy proved this, i don remember his name, they put him behind bars he is scientist or some ias officer. jp also condemned his arrest.
he challeneged, he will prove if the govt agrees for it infront of media. govt never replie.
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https://www.eff.org/press/archives/2010/10/19

Pioneer Award winners 2010

Hari Krishna Prasad Vemuru is a security researcher in India who recently revealed security flaws in India's paperless electronic voting machines. He has endured jail time, repeated interrogations, and ongoing political harassment to protect an anonymous source that enabled him to conduct the first independent security review of India's electronic voting system. Prasad spent a year trying to convince election officials to complete such a review, but they insisted that the government-made machines were "perfect" and "tamperproof." Instead of blindly accepting the government's claims, Prasad's international team discovered serious flaws that could alter national election results. Months of hot debate have produced a growing consensus that India's electronic voting machines should be scrapped, and Prasad hopes to help his country build a transparent and verifiable voting system.
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power/adhikaram chetilo unte EVM ayina mamulu paper ballot ayina konni chotla cheyochhu. Long time back Bush-Gore appudu FL elections lo chala akramalu jarigayi jarigayi ani ikkada gola chesarau konni jarigayi kooda

Ind lo ilantivi definitely possible anukuntunna
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EVMs not tamper proof ani Dilli lo chepparu ga
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Em chestaru, candidates order teliyakunda?




There is an allegation / fact that 20 K EVM's are missing in AP .. So order can be imprinted in the constituencies they feel they are going to loose by a close margin
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Em chestaru, candidates order teliyakunda?




symbol telusu kada
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Immotional_hatyachar:

manufacturing appude sdsadsad chesesthe?




Em chestaru, candidates order teliyakunda?
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What is JP doing for Kukatpally?
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a. Election mundu tamper cheyali ante, mundu large number of EVMs ni dongalinchali.




manufacturing appude sdsadsad chesesthe?
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EVM, and ballot both scenarios separate gaa chooddamu.

1. EVM. Allegation enti ante they can be tampered, and nobody will know.

a. Election mundu tamper cheyali ante, mundu large number of EVMs ni dongalinchali.
b. Vaatini tamper cheyali. Ippati daka India lo jaragaledu ee pani. Only Univ of Michigan lo oka lab lo cheya galigaru. So, infra is an issue.
c. Tamper chesina EVMs malli tirigi same seal chesi pettali. EVMs replace chestunte, they should have the same serial numbers.
d. Ippudu asalu vishayam, ye EVM ye polling booth ki veltundi evariki mundu teliyadu. It is known only a few days before the election
e. Inkaaa kastam aina vishayam, EVM meeda candidates order mundu teliyadu. Adi teliyakunda tamper chesina waste. So, a to c complete cheyataniki few days window untundi.
f. Inka migilindi election taruvatha tampering, daaniki security ni manage cheyali, same a to c points repeat cheyali.

2. Ballot paper

a. During election tamper cheyali ante picha easy, ballot box lo okkadu ink poste chalu, anni votes govinda.
b. Ballot paper ekkadanna sampadinchi, quality color xerox teeyinchi, oka vote badulu rendu veyachu. Rigging etc very easy. Ofcourse election rigged ani taruvatha telustundi.
c. Inka next scenario after the election. Idi aithe parama easy. Security manage chesthe chalu (this step is needed for EVM also). Exactly same kind of ballot box cheyinchadam kastam kaadu, same kind of ballot papers with votes tho danni nimpi easy gaa replace cheyachu. No engineers, no labs needed.

For an EVM you need a lab, engineers to tamper, and there is uncertainty on candidates order etc. For a ballot, it is all straight forward, and all you need is a good color xerox machine. I think all it takes is simple common sense to tell which method makes it more difficult to tamper.

But, a better testing procedure to detect tampered EVMs can help. Randomly some booths can be selected to have both EVM, and ballot, and if it is proved that both counts match always, it proves that EVMs are safe.
The superior man understands what is right. The inferior man understands what will sell. The predicament of politics is to make the right thing saleable.

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