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Andhrawala
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Ustad:

Well said. I will not apply if the qualification rule is 180 days.




I didnt apply for my inlaws. In 2011 they stayed for 5 months and few days
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Andhrawala:

Dorikithene Donga kathaaaa.



Well said. I will not apply if the qualification rule is 180 days.
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Basky_indya:

lucky chaps unnaru. suppose IRS audit random padindi anuko,

DB lo AW help cheyyadu kadhaa




I know few in my place.

Parents came in August. they stayed arnd 9 months or so. piled extension in the following year. applied ITIN.

applied refund for the previous year and the current year also

They are doing to keep the parents on their tax return for the rest of their life in USA


Dorikithene Donga kathaaaa. India lo vunna vallaki supporting antaamu antaaru
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Rasputin:

another thing I am not 100% sure is, does it have to be 180+ consecutive days? Do all the 180 days need to be in the same calendar year?




FINANCIAL Year. not calendar. Financial year lo 180+.

india lo apr1-mar 31, usa lo jan 1- dec 31
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Ustad:


Visa extension cheyyinchukunna vaallu kooda chaala mandi unnaaru DB lo. Vallaki ayithey legally no issues.

For example, departure date ki health baaledu, doc advised not to fly ani extension techukunnaaru anuko...(or some other excuse for an extension), then >180 days untaaru, happy gaa ITIN ki file chesukovachu.

another thing I am not 100% sure is, does it have to be 180+ consecutive days? Do all the 180 days need to be in the same calendar year?
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Ustad:

Mana DB lo apply chesi success ayina vallu evaraina unnaremo choddam Bro. 180 days rule ante most of them disqualified.




lucky chaps unnaru. suppose IRS audit random padindi anuko,

DB lo AW help cheyyadu kadhaa:d:d
kRUshITHO nAsthee dURbhikSHAM!!
JP_ROCKS: ...der unte enchakka andarni giant wheel ekkistadu..girrr mani oogachu..
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Rasputin:

Light teesukovadam better anukuntunnaa. Because it seems like Duration of Stay > 180 days is a must.



Mana DB lo apply chesi success ayina vallu evaraina unnaremo choddam Bro. 180 days rule ante most of them disqualified.
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Ustad:

Ade anukuntunna. general ga year lo 1 day unna dependent ga petukovachu...ee rule only spouse & kid ki apply avutunda leka all scenarios kanukovvali.




BABAI, its has noting to do with US laws. INDIA law kooda anthey,

for TAXATION PURPOSE, INDIA lo 181 days undali. so this 180 DAYS rule anedhi

"universal" concept type anuko, between usa,india,commenwealth contries etc
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Andhrawala:

Finalysis.net kelli seyyi




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Komaranna:

yes more than > 180 is basic rule..u can claim as depenent



Damn. Ee lekka prakaram parents/inlaws general ga less than 180 days untaru...dependent ga qualify kaaru.
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Basky_indya:

disqualified. kaiku jhanjaatt letha reyyy.....



Ade anukuntunna. general ga year lo 1 day unna dependent ga petukovachu...ee rule only spouse & kid ki apply avutunda leka all scenarios kanukovvali.
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Ustad:


Light teesukovadam better anukuntunnaa. Because it seems like Duration of Stay > 180 days is a must.
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yes more than > 180 is basic rule..u can claim as depenent
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Komaranna:


stay > 180 days?
endukantey, >180 days is a strict rule annatlu cheppaaru naatho.
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i applied for itin recently for my parents.posted to texaz later realised we can submit in local office...not yet got the number filled w2 form and attested copies of passport and recept of 485..procedure correct kado until unless i hear from them telwad
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Ustad:

I go to a Desi CPA in LA. He doesn't add depends if they don't have SSN/ITIN. Please let me know if you know a CPA who can do this.

They stayed less than 100 days in 2011. Not sure if is a valid qualification as dependent.




Finalysis.net kelli seyyi


Kuyyo_morro:

ITN apply cheyyali ante in-laws or whoever have to stay for over 180days. Appati visitor visa time ayipotundi, how do you include them?




Vundhi gaaa extension
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Ustad:

I go to a Desi CPA in LA. He doesn't add depends if they don't have SSN/ITIN. Please let me know if you know a CPA who can do this.

They stayed less than 100 days in 2011. Not sure if is a valid qualification as dependent.


HR block lo cheyyi. 180days must undaali annadu HR block CPA guy.
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Ustad:

They stayed less than 100 days in 2011. Not sure if is a valid qualification as dependent.




disqualified. kaiku jhanjaatt letha reyyy.....
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ITN apply cheyyali ante in-laws or whoever have to stay for over 180days. Appati visitor visa time ayipotundi, how do you include them?
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Andhrawala:

Go thro desi CPA. He will apply for ITIN while filing Tax return.

I can suggest u desi CPA if u need one.

BTW how many months ur inlaws lived in USA with u



I go to a Desi CPA in LA. He doesn't add depends if they don't have SSN/ITIN. Please let me know if you know a CPA who can do this.

They stayed less than 100 days in 2011. Not sure if is a valid qualification as dependent.
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Janmabhoomi:

Not sure why CPA needs ITIN.


Edo thokkalo SW vaaduthoo untaaru. That field is probably marked as mandatory and it won't let him get past that step.
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Ok, chaala complex situation laa unnatlu undi. Here are some facts to start off.

Did you in-laws stay in excess of 180 days during the tax year? If not, you can NOT claim them as dependents.

For ITIN, as far as I understand the rules (from a few years ago), your application for ITIN has to be accompanied by your tax filings paperwork (with the SSN field left blank for the applicants). ITIN department assigns the numbers, adds them to the tax paper work and forwards the whole packet to the tax returns department.

Now, that is the flow.

I had a similar experience with HR Block, when they could not leave the SSN/ITIN field blank. They used a temp/dummy SSN number to get past that problem. To be sure, I took the whole paper work to the local IRS office and had it checked out (free but a wait time of about 30 minutes). Good thing is, no hassle of mailing the papers. You can just drop them off with the IRS representative in the local office.

You can not efile anyways for applying ITIN, because it needs to go to a different department first.

Hope this helps.
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Kuyyo_morro:

Not for in-laws and thodalluds.




Why not. They will give for maradals and thodalluds as long as they live in USA for more than 6 months


Once u get ITIN u can use it in the return as dependants for life long
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Ustad:

I applied couple of times for my in-laws and got rejection notice. Can someone post complete details like what all documentation is required. As per rejection notice, they are expecting tax filing documentation also but my CPA adds dependents only if they have SSN/ITIN. It is a deadlock situation for me. Any workarounds?




Go thro desi CPA. He will apply for ITIN while filing Tax return.

I can suggest u desi CPA if u need one.

BTW how many months ur inlaws lived in USA with u
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Ustad:

As per rejection notice, they are expecting tax filing documentation




When I applied for my spouse, I sent the application along with my tax returns. In my return, I left the Spouse ITIN/SSN empty. The process your applicaation and mail you the ITIN and use it to process your tax return. Not sure why CPA needs ITIN. Also, you can only for your dependents like Spouse and children not your parents or inlaws.
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Ustad:

I applied couple of times for my in-laws and got rejection notice. Can someone post complete details like what all documentation is required. As per rejection notice, they are expecting tax filing documentation also but my CPA adds dependents only if they have SSN/ITIN. It is a deadlock situation for me. Any workarounds?


ITIN will be issued to spouse of a visa holder or some other criteria. Not for in-laws and thodalluds.
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I applied couple of times for my in-laws and got rejection notice. Can someone post complete details like what all documentation is required. As per rejection notice, they are expecting tax filing documentation also but my CPA adds dependents only if they have SSN/ITIN. It is a deadlock situation for me. Any workarounds?
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