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     Okahyderabadi Side Hero Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 3437 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 157.130.154.114 Rating: N/A |
this is a tall claim, the sepoy mutiny or the war of independence of 1857 was mostly confined to the UP, delhi, parts of MP area at that time it was by far only limited geographically and rest of india was unaffected. the biggest issue was the regiments in UP did not approach anybody else in the rest of india to join the effort. most glaring was the punjab sikhs were never approached at all, since the UP regiments were the forces that were used to destroy the sikh kingdom and in the process they literally ravished the erstwhile sikh kingdom. They did not approach them for help to kick the brits out. The same pattern repeated elsewhere also, because of their inability to mobilize enough forces they could not sustain the onslaught of the brits when they had replenishments arrive from south and other parts. When we say we were independent, they just captured delhi but rest of the area was still under british control In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 8723 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.114 Rating: N/A |
maastaru manaki oka vishayam teliyadu, infact in 1857 we succesfully drove away british for six months.....taruvatha malla samsthanalu british vallani invite chesi financial ga support kooda chesaayi....we were independent for six months in 1857 | ||
| Okahyderabadi Side Hero Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 3434 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 157.130.154.114 Rating: N/A |
because all of the people who mattered fought against it(atleast initially) coming under one umbrella but ultimately lack of co-ordination and some key delays in decision making led to the defeat of the forces In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Okahyderabadi Side Hero Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 3432 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 157.130.154.114 Rating: |
everybody who works for the army is patriot even if its a job. only a handful of sikhs might have joined the british army but majority of them were against it. so by taking the handful in to account we should not judge them. The sacrifices they make everytime a war happens in the western sphere are enough and we are nobody to judge them, south lo center lo undi manaki teliyadu. sikh regiment and rajput regiment are highly decorated in the wars and not without a reason In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Rajusk Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 16742 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.234.99.10 Rating: N/A |
exactly ide sadivanu.. but Bhindren kurrod ni late gaa niddara leparu IG gang..aa tharuvatha lepesaru ..adi vere vishayam | ||
| Bar_and_ha_cub Junior Artist Username: Bar_and_ha_cub Post Number: 247 Registered: 09-2011 Posted From: 174.63.84.29 Rating: N/A |
I still do not understand one thing, why was 1857's Sepoy Mutiny called "First War of Independence of India" though India as a country never existed before the British? | ||
| Okahyderabadi Side Hero Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 3431 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 157.130.154.114 Rating: N/A |
In fact British promised many people many things in their divide and rule policy not only in India but everywhere in the world. They treated Sikhism as a separate religion(which it is) and proposed to have created a separate country so Islam, Hinduism, Sikhism can have separate countries. Sardar quashed it. They were already major force when Ranjit singh died having conquered entire north west of British empire almost, punjab, afghanistan, northwestern frontier in pakisthan, kashmir etc. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Zulu Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 10233 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 64.253.166.252 Rating: N/A |
exactly! thats the reason why i dont call them patroits just because they work for Indian army..or traiters coz they worked for the British | ||
| Gandhiguevara Megastar Username: Gandhiguevara Post Number: 23062 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 66.151.13.188 Rating: N/A |
ivannee kaadhu manam malli tellollatho yudham chesi paga teerchukovali | ||
| Rajusk Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 16741 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.234.99.10 Rating: N/A |
Including Motilal Nehru and Jawaharlal Nehru.. after Jallinwala bagh anukonta Motilal slowly became pro Indian Independence.. appatidaaka valla illu was like any other western dora..because he was one of the highest paid lawyers..arguing for his employer East India company.. | ||
| Okahyderabadi Side Hero Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 3430 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 157.130.154.114 Rating: N/A |
everybody worked for british during that time not just sikhs. the so called leaders of this nation went to Britain to get educated and employed by them. The British had killed the education system in India systematically and created a civil, police and military and basically employed people from here to control citizens. If that is the case 25% of india at that time should be called traitors. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Okahyderabadi Side Hero Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 3429 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 157.130.154.114 Rating: N/A |
1845 lone Raja Ranjit Singh fought with the british , its called Anglo-Sikh war. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Zulu Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 10232 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 64.253.166.252 Rating: N/A |
alagey saar..meeru cheppandi..chethulu kattukuni vintam.. If sikhs working for Indian Army can ba called as Patriots? Why cant the sikhs who worked for British Indian Army be called Traiters? | ||
| Okahyderabadi Side Hero Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 3428 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 157.130.154.114 Rating: N/A |
Guru Nanak said 'na koi hindu na koi musalman everybody is same' , so sikhsim is supposed to take the good things of both the religions and form a new way of living. so you can see the community based activities as in muslims (al umma) and some of the traditional concepts of hinduism in it. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Okahyderabadi Side Hero Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 3427 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 157.130.154.114 Rating: N/A |
Sikhism was established by Guru Nanak first in line of the 10 gurus and only during the time of Guru Gobind singh the 10th guru around the time of aurangazeb 'khalsa' was formed. mee istham vachinattu rayakandi , if you do not know about the subject research or ask questions In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Abhysg Side Hero Username: Abhysg Post Number: 5401 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 69.142.108.246 Rating: N/A |
that is because of Moghuls.. hindus/sikhs ni harrass sese vollu.. adi addukodaniki aa region lo hindus, sikhs unite ayyaru.. | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 9124 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
Guru Gobind Singh malli Sikh religion ni Hinduism ki close ga techadu anukunta.. anyway cant comment on this as i dont know much. | ||
| Zulu Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 10230 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 64.253.166.252 Rating: N/A |
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| Rajusk Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 16737 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.234.99.10 Rating: N/A |
1857 taruvatha only a segment of Sikhs were anti-British ani undi..aa book lo i am trying to research further..but so far nenu sadivindi post sesanu | ||
| Abhysg Side Hero Username: Abhysg Post Number: 5400 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 69.142.108.246 Rating: N/A |
adi bogus.. appati hindu dharmam plus islam la ni mixie lo esaru.. kotha juice vochindi.. | ||
| Rajusk Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 16735 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.234.99.10 Rating: |
that is pure lemon rice.. | ||
| Abhysg Side Hero Username: Abhysg Post Number: 5399 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 69.142.108.246 Rating: N/A |
andukenemo pandi-kovvu antoo senti meeda kottaru 1857 rebel kosam.. | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 9123 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
Sikh religion puttinde Hinduism ni protect cheyataniki annattuga vinna nenu.. 1857 mutinu kaadinunchi Sikhs were involved in freedom struggle ani kuda idea naaku. | ||
| Zulu Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 10229 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 64.253.166.252 Rating: N/A |
Pakistan..UK army lo kooda sikhs have a significant presence | ||
| Rajusk Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 16734 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.234.99.10 Rating: N/A |
British East India company was one of the highest paying at that time..anduke manollu chaala mandi..jump jilani.. | ||
| Abhysg Side Hero Username: Abhysg Post Number: 5398 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 69.142.108.246 Rating: N/A |
idi kaavochu.. mana hyd nizam vadda kooda sikhs/rajputs unde vollu..army lo | ||
| Zulu Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 10228 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 64.253.166.252 Rating: N/A |
British Indian Army lo sikhs chala mandi undevaru.. sikhs, basically warriars..evaru dabbulisthey vallaki fighting chestharu..army job for them is a means of livelyhood.. desabhakthi..akulkatta anedi tharvatha kalipina pulihora | ||
| Rajusk Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 16733 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.234.99.10 Rating: N/A |
thanks for posting in this thread...Indian history nenu bagane sadivanu..(for Civils)...kaani ee angle eppud soodaled..meeru confirm sestharu emo ani posting vesa. but aa book lo Inder kurrod enduku raasado samajh kaaledu..naaku kooda | ||
| Okahyderabadi Side Hero Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 3426 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 157.130.154.114 Rating: |
biggest lie of the century. its basically hogwash perpetuated by IG to cover up Blue star In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Rajusk Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 16729 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.234.99.10 Rating: |
Indira Gandhi biography...by Inder Malhotra | ||
| Abhysg Side Hero Username: Abhysg Post Number: 5396 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 69.142.108.246 Rating: N/A |
ranjith singh heir dileep singh ni london ku forceful ga pampinchi akkade studies etc seppinchar.. india ku rakunda kattadi sesaru.. ee vishayam lo chala sikhs ku kopam british vollu ante | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 8713 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.114 Rating: |
ekkada chadivar meeru?....british vallu sikhs ne kaadhu andarini divide and rule chesaaru.....sikhs fought against mughals for protecting hinduism....konthmandi opportunists endulo aina vuntaaru....hindus ga vundi mughals, britishers ki support chesina vallu entha mandhi leru | ||
| Humpty_dumpty Moderator Username: Humpty_dumpty Post Number: 18232 Registered: 02-2009 Rating: N/A |
recently I read India after Gandhi every (chronological) chapter starts with a reference to an article published in the "west" ...how an Independent India would break down because of regional, communal differences A clear notion at the time of our Independence, was that the Sikhs would lead the first separatist movement and become a sovereign nation, detaching from India This anti Indian, pro Brit sikh thing is new to me book is good, a bit prejudiced against right wing but if you read with a centrist view, a good account of the 50 yrs history since 1947 covers north east conflicts, which we are not that aware due to the media coverage | ||
| Rajusk Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 16728 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.234.99.10 Rating: N/A |
manam andaram ide impression lo unnam..but Sikhs until a little after independence kooda memu Hindus kante different ane feeling lo unde vaar..ade feeling ni instigate sesi cash sesukondi British empire..daani gurinchi eeda disco | ||
| Abhysg Side Hero Username: Abhysg Post Number: 5391 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 69.142.108.246 Rating: N/A |
correct.. delhi riots tarvata chala mandi sikhs india ante dwesham ekkuvayindi.. specially outside india.. naaku telisina kondaru sikhs pakistan origin ani seppukontaru.. they came out of india before divide | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 8711 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.114 Rating: |
Bhagat singh was inspired to fight against british after jalian wala bhagh....udham singh who assasinated general dyer was a sikh.....this country and hindus are forever indebted to sikhs for their sacrifice | ||
| I140 Comedian Username: I140 Post Number: 1061 Registered: 10-2010 Posted From: 146.243.4.157 Rating: N/A |
Indhi ra gandhi.. sikh moment ni surpass chesindi.. even after india independence 80 varaku bane undhi.. oo time lo sikha tellalist lo india lo perigipotunnaru ani.. indhira govt time lo okokkanni patti epinchindi ani vinikidi.. ala mottam anagatokkina taruvatha.. indhira ni ala lepesharu... revenge type lo | ||
| Rajusk Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 16727 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.234.99.10 Rating: N/A |
aa book (Indira Gandhi Biography) lo kooda antha detailed gaa ledu..2 pages lo ee story motham chuttesad.. evarikaina details telusthai emo ani ikkada posting sesa..inka info vethakali.. manaki telisina Sikhs are desa bhakths..but according to that book..it was not until very late..they thought they belonged to India.. | ||
| Ipc302 Moderator Username: Ipc302 Post Number: 11405 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
pro-british anti-indian eti....ayina punjab was mostly under rule of ranjit singh and his successors kadha till 1850's.... | ||
| I140 Comedian Username: I140 Post Number: 1060 Registered: 10-2010 Posted From: 146.243.4.157 Rating: N/A |
raju garu.. Bengal ni kuda alante try chesharu ga.. ippudu kottaga telisindi enti? oo time ki sikh country ivvadaniki kuda positive wave unde ga.. indhira gandhi mundhu. | ||
| Abhysg Side Hero Username: Abhysg Post Number: 5389 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 69.142.110.96 Rating: N/A |
idi unbelievable.. actual ga akkada jarigindi religious gathering anukonta.. visakhi meeting | ||
| Risingstar Megastar Username: Risingstar Post Number: 28276 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 159.53.110.141 Rating: N/A |
motham detailed post veyyandi raju garu | ||
| Rajusk Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 16726 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.234.99.10 Rating: N/A |
Indulo Sikhs were pro-British and anti Indian.. Sikhs lo ee separatist attitude ni penchindi ..evaro kaadu..prapancham lo mostly anni chotla conflicts ki reason ayyina British dorale.. meeki separate desam istham ani promise sesaru anta.. |
