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Cocanada
Legend Username: Cocanada
Post Number: 35152 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 98.17.94.173
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2011 - 09:43 pm: |
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harvard univ lo okka muslim kuda dorakaleda godava cheyadaaniki? or political correctness kosam hindus ni choose cheskunara? waiting to heat Swamy's response |
   
Sanman
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Post Number: 5230 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2011 - 06:07 pm: |
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Mental_sachinodu:what is it has got to do with his job? MMS ante somebody recorded his private life and made it public it can happen to anybody. there is no sin in it, unless he was doing something illegal or immoral.
sir chesindhi gullo. antha kanna details loki pothe baagodhu
Mental_sachinodu:Im not supporting Swamy's theories, im defending his rights
i agree with you. i am close to borderline on this issue. at least from this incidents his statements came into light. good to see the mgmt standing by his rights http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc8Vnn9fNeA bill gates to bob - "cocktail party undhi. manchi costly whisky pettaam meeru kuda randi" |
   
Mental_sachinodu
Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu
Post Number: 6198 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2011 - 06:02 pm: |
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Sanman:i agree. if someone outside harvard raised this point i would have said it is their internal matter. now the matter is internal. and they voted.
may be it is an internal matter, this is just my opinion on what a student should be. in my view it is wrong to take on an opposing view in a non intellectual way. the persons theories or articles can debated, but not the person, and this is what wrong is todays world,im sure the students agree with this.
Sanman:should the temple allow him to continue and let the patrons decide whether or not to go to that temple ?
what is it has got to do with his job? MMS ante somebody recorded his private life and made it public it can happen to anybody. there is no sin in it, unless he was doing something illegal or immoral.
Sanman:vaalle cheptunnaaru kadha there are unpopular positions and there are unwelcome positions ani
to me unpopular or unwelcome are still opinions, but when they start to take actions based on percieved opinions they are breaching something they should not. as long as the person is acting within is rights, he should be welcomed in places like universities. remember what the church did to Galileo!!? His theories were more unwelcome than Swamy's in those times. Im not supporting Swamy's theories, im defending his rights the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
Bushu
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Post Number: 3970 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 12.30.230.138
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2011 - 05:55 pm: |
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inthakee swamy saaru article or lecture yedundhi? |
   
Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 5225 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2011 - 05:54 pm: |
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Ipc302:conjecture
adhe based on what ani adugutunna. we don't have news of any other event they participated in. just ee okka point midha ne pseudo ante religious equality undaali ane vaaallu andaru pseudos autaaru kadha Mental_sachinodu:snub his voice, ki not part of their environment ki naaku ayithe difference thelitledhu mari
Mental_sachinodu:with all due respect to those who raised the point, they have no right to decide what others students should listen or learn.
i agree. if someone outside harvard raised this point i would have said it is their internal matter. now the matter is internal. and they voted. Mental_sachinodu:if students are approaching him, others have no right to say they cant do that.
idhi kuda pointe. kaani monna vja gullo oka pantulu mms vachindi. should the temple allow him to continue and let the patrons decide whether or not to go to that temple ? Mental_sachinodu:these are places that are supposed to bring out a student as a person, who whither intellectual challenges, not escape from them
vaalle cheptunnaaru kadha there are unpopular positions and there are unwelcome positions ani http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc8Vnn9fNeA bill gates to bob - "cocktail party undhi. manchi costly whisky pettaam meeru kuda randi" |
   
Ipc302
Moderator Username: Ipc302
Post Number: 10872 Registered: 02-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2011 - 05:49 pm: |
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Sanman:based on what ?
conjecture
Sanman:do we even know anything else about them ?
do we have to? |
   
Mental_sachinodu
Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu
Post Number: 6197 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2011 - 05:48 pm: |
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Sanman:snub his voice. they just don't want him to be a part of their environment.
snub his voice, ki not part of their environment ki naaku ayithe difference thelitledhu mari ok keep speaking your theories, just dont let the sound come to us ane na  the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
Mental_sachinodu
Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu
Post Number: 6196 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2011 - 05:47 pm: |
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Sanman:they just don't want him to be a part of their environment. subbu swamy classic case of bigotry like they said. they don't have to learn what else he has to teach
bro, with all due respect to those who raised the point, they have no right to decide what others students should listen or learn. like i said, if they have conviction, knowledge they should be able to tackle him at an intellectual level, but not this way. if students are not interested in his theories, im sure they would not take his courses. if students are approaching him, others have no right to say they cant do that. universities should not be a place where opposing ideas are suppressed with collecting signatures or using higher powers. if a gay professor is problem to religuous minded students, and his teachings support gay lifestyles, should he be removed from the university!!? these are places that are supposed to bring out a student as a person, who whither intellectual challenges, not escape from them the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
Sanman
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Post Number: 5221 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2011 - 05:42 pm: |
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Ipc302:already cheyyakapothe future lo def ga sestharu....
based on what ? do we even know anything else about them ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc8Vnn9fNeA bill gates to bob - "cocktail party undhi. manchi costly whisky pettaam meeru kuda randi" |
   
Sanman
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Post Number: 5220 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2011 - 05:41 pm: |
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Mental_sachinodu:education is to learn about all possible theories and techniques.
he is not teaching anything controversial there. they just have a problem with other lectures coming from a person who has those views. they are not trying to arrest him or snub his voice. they just don't want him to be a part of their environment. subbu swamy classic case of bigotry like they said. they don't have to learn what else he has to teach http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc8Vnn9fNeA bill gates to bob - "cocktail party undhi. manchi costly whisky pettaam meeru kuda randi" |
   
Ipc302
Moderator Username: Ipc302
Post Number: 10871 Registered: 02-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2011 - 05:41 pm: |
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far out of step with the everyday secularism and tolerance embodied by most Indians -- would threaten to tear apart the basic fabric of India's pluralist democracy. And, as Indians know too well, the brand of rhetoric that he employs has fueled violence against religious minorities in the past
Sanman:aa iddaru students vere religions ki free pass ichaara ?
already cheyyakapothe future lo def ga sestharu.... |
   
Coolmac
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Post Number: 6380 Registered: 05-2007 Posted From: 65.170.103.156
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2011 - 05:39 pm: |
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Sanman:pseudo secularists ante enti ?
congress ani ardham dictionary lo  I am here NOT to change any one's opinion but to express mine !! |
   
Sanman
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Post Number: 5219 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2011 - 05:38 pm: |
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Ipc302:oka religion ki free paas inko religion ki extra charge chesi correct ani cheppe vallu
aa iddaru students vere religions ki free pass ichaara ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc8Vnn9fNeA bill gates to bob - "cocktail party undhi. manchi costly whisky pettaam meeru kuda randi" |
   
Ipc302
Moderator Username: Ipc302
Post Number: 10870 Registered: 02-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2011 - 05:37 pm: |
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Sanman:pseudo secularists ante enti ?
oka religion ki free paas inko religion ki extra charge chesi correct ani cheppe vallu |
   
Mental_sachinodu
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Post Number: 6193 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2011 - 05:33 pm: |
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chasss.. endhidhi.. education is to learn about all possible theories and techniques. its up to the student to decide the merits of a particular theory or an approach. its not a high school or kindergarten, these are adults. if they have the conviction that his disclosures fail in anyway, im pretty sure they can debate on the topic openly. its like saying teaching darwins theory of evolution should not be taught in schools, as it belittles creationism theory of religions. its a shame that graduate students are trying to do this!! the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
Sanman
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Post Number: 5217 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2011 - 05:32 pm: |
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Ipc302:hard core pseudo-secularists laaga unnaru kurrol iddaru
pseudo secularists ante enti ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc8Vnn9fNeA bill gates to bob - "cocktail party undhi. manchi costly whisky pettaam meeru kuda randi" |
   
Ipc302
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Post Number: 10869 Registered: 02-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2011 - 05:27 pm: |
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hard core pseudo-secularists laaga unnaru kurrol iddaru |
   
Sanman
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Post Number: 5215 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2011 - 05:21 pm: |
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sachindi gorre. good points by those two. if he said that then it is deplorable. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc8Vnn9fNeA bill gates to bob - "cocktail party undhi. manchi costly whisky pettaam meeru kuda randi" |
   
Amigo
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Post Number: 405 Registered: 05-2011 Posted From: 144.160.130.16
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2011 - 05:20 pm: |
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Rajusk:Manolle
Define. Indians or Hindus? |
   
Rajusk
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Post Number: 16098 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.234.99.11
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2011 - 05:10 pm: |
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Two PhD students, Umang Kumar and Sanjay Pinto, started an online petition asking for the removal of courses taught by Dr Swamy, which received more than 450 signatures from students and faculty. However, Harvard sided with Dr Swamy on the principle of free speech. 'Swamy's op-ed clearly crosses the line by demonising an entire religious community and calling for violence against their sacred places,' Eck said, adding that Harvard has a moral responsibility not to affiliate itself with anyone who expresses hatred towards a minority group. According to the Crimson, 'There is a distinction between unpopular and unwelcome political views.' Many faculty members felt the article was not free speech, but hate speech. "Swamy's position on disenfranchisement is like saying Jewish Americans and African Americans should not be allowed to vote unless they acknowledge the supremacy of white Anglo Saxon Protestants," said History Professor Sugata Bose, a grandnephew of Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose. Dean of the Summer School Donald H Pfister explained that courses included in the catalog are chosen by individual departments. 'I find (Dr Swamy's) position reprehensible, but on the other hand, it is our duty to support departments and their offerings,' he said. 'I was persuaded... that the views expressed in Dr Swamy's op-ed piece amounted to incitement of violence instead of protected political speech,' Philosophy Department Chair Sean D Kelly wrote in an e-mail to the Crimson. Umang Kumar and Sanjay Pinto's petition was launched under the banner of Coalition Against Bigotry at Harvard. It said 'Swamy's views are deeply offensive; they are also dangerous. The measures he proposes -- far out of step with the everyday secularism and tolerance embodied by most Indians -- would threaten to tear apart the basic fabric of India's pluralist democracy. And, as Indians know too well, the brand of rhetoric that he employs has fueled violence against religious minorities in the past.' Manolle Swamy ni naakinchesaru...successful gaa.. |