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Mental_sachinodu:

and EULA lo specify chesthaaru anedhi naa point.


watch the videos posted yesterday. mee data collect chestham ani single line EULAs undavu. em collect cheyocho em cheyakudadho specific laws unnai.

Mental_sachinodu:

if you are using a cell phone, you have already accepted the terms.


again it is the software that is to blame not the equipment. OS first time use ki oka EULA padesthe saripodhu kadha. each software has its own terms.

Mental_sachinodu:

he broke the law, the same law which restricts me from accessing your data.


he is not accessing any personal data. in fact that is the reason it takes so long for them to make the docs public. they make sure the information is related to govt and corporate power abuse and not private people.

Mental_sachinodu:

if he is capable of finding about dawood ibrahim without breaking security protocols, im with him.


whose security protocols ? paki govt protocols ?

Mental_sachinodu:

Its just that he is no savior and these companies are not as evil as he potrays them to be.


say the same after he releases the list of indians who saved looted money in swiss banks
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The companies who monitor your activity doesn't have any clue about the data....Whenever Fed Govt requests for the data, they submit the data and reports....Again the surveillance companies have nothing to do with your data..




this is another misconception, the federal government cannot request data to a company unless there is a judicial case open. the data you submit will be pertaining to the data that is related to the case, as it is the responsibility of the lawyer.

the whole hue and cry about phone tapping by feds is because of Bush administration going above this judicial process and using illegal means to acquire the data. i.e, the government is involved tapping data illegally, not through the companies legal processes.

btw, data logging precedures ki kooda protocols untayi, konni corporate decides, and some are ruled by Federal law.
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Sanman:

obviously you know more about these companies but assange's claim is that they don't mention what they are logging in EULA. it is not their choice to decide what to log. it is customer's choice. and do not have to be as innocent as you think. they may not log that data for themselves but they might have instructions to do it.




and EULA lo specify chesthaaru anedhi naa point. it is up to the individuals to understand what they are signing up for. if you are using a cell phone, you have already accepted the terms. its just that no one cares, and people who care do know these stuff is my point.

People who use social networking, or google mapping or apple location servies, facebook or foursquare should understand that they have accepted terms, that publishes their data into the service providers databases.

ekkada varako endhuku, google offered free laptops, and idhe db lo i posted the EULA and i said, i would opt out of it, as it clearly mentions data will be gathered, for quality and customer service enhancement purposes. kaani db lo janatha found it wierd that i worried about the EULA.




Sanman:

he was a hacker IN his teens. not since his teens. and the word hacker inherently does not mean its bad.



ofcourse hacker does not mean its bad, but what Assange and his group did was bad, and there is a reason he is not travelling in some countries. he broke the law, the same law which restricts me from accessing your data. if he has not actively perpetrated in hacking he is an accomplice, the same law which restricts me or you knowingly dealing with a criminal.


Sanman:

if he finds more info about dawood ibrahim how is that a bad thing.



if he is capable of finding about dawood ibrahim without breaking security protocols, im with him. but he is breaking them, if he can access dawoods data, he can access mine, he can access yours, which is the issue here.

dont get me wrong here, I have nothing against Assange, its all part of the game for me. Its just that he is no savior and these companies are not as evil as he potrays them to be.

with the recent revolutions in communication technologies, there is much more that will happen. even your tv ads will be catered based on what you have purchased online, but then thats what people want. people who complain they do not know about it, need to pay attention to what they are doing.
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@M_S: Assange may be a hacker in his teens but not now. He has own limitations and capabilities as a wikileaks founder....

And coming to software spying, you or me have no clue how those companies spy on you....You know what? AT&T Internet, Verizon FIOS has their own data logging chip embedded in their modems/routers.....Why would AT&T push the users to use its own modems/routers when there are different brands of modems available in the market like motorola, broadcom,etc?

The companies who monitor your activity doesn't have any clue about the data....Whenever Fed Govt requests for the data, they submit the data and reports....Again the surveillance companies have nothing to do with your data..
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@M_S: Assange may be a hacker in his teens but now now. He his own limitations and capabilities as a wikileaks founder....

And coming to software spying, you or me have no clue how those companies spy on you....You know what? AT&T Internet, Verizon FIOS has their own data logging chip embedded in their modems/routers.....Why would AT&T push the users to use its own modems/routers when there are different brands of modems available in the market like motorola, broadcom,etc?

The companies who monitor your activity doesn't have any clue about the data....Whenever Fed Govt requests for the data, they submit the data and reports....Again the surveillance companies have nothing to do with your data..
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Mental_sachinodu:

Assange was a hackar since his teens, that is how he started.


he was a hacker IN his teens. not since his teens. and the word hacker inherently does not mean its bad. if he finds more info about dawood ibrahim how is that a bad thing.

Mental_sachinodu:

Sonus, broadsoft, ss8Networks these are providers of equipment and software. how the software is used depends on the people using it. ilantivi list lo inka chala unnayi. like i said earlier, once they install this equipment or software, these guys wont have any access to these systems.


obviously you know more about these companies but assange's claim is that they don't mention what they are logging in EULA. it is not their choice to decide what to log. it is customer's choice. and do not have to be as innocent as you think. they may not log that data for themselves but they might have instructions to do it.
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Ashton:

M_S: FYI Assange is not a hacker...He is just getting all the help from whistle blowers who work for those surveillance companies...




Assange was a hackar since his teens, that is how he started. and kindha ichina company list lo nenu already seppa most of them are product companies. suppose, a company makes a camera, and its job is record videos, now if your neighbor is recording your moves by installing it infront of your house, company blame sesthava, neighbor ni blame sesthava..

Sonus, broadsoft, ss8Networks these are providers of equipment and software. how the software is used depends on the people using it. ilantivi list lo inka chala unnayi. like i said earlier, once they install this equipment or software, these guys wont have any access to these systems.

its pure sensationalism, idhi choosthunte next doctors are storing patient information ani modhalu pedathaaru anukunta.

like i said, if you dont like it, you are supposed to opt out of it. everything comes at a cost. you dont want to carry cash, you will have to use cards, but then your comprising your personal security to a third party. thats how things are!! indhulo news emito ardham kaatle
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@M_S: FYI Assange is not a hacker...He is just getting all the help from whistle blowers who work for those surveillance companies...
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Sanman:

he is much more than that now. his motives are much better than any govt motives. i have nothing but respect for this man




ok, im not talking about motives, but he is a hacker, which means he tries to access data from private or public systems, which anyone without appropriate access should not touch. there ends the matter to me. its not just about governments, he has hacked in to private data as well. he is the enemy of government, but no friend of mine for doing the things he is doing. if i want something i will for fight it, he doesnt have to fight for me.
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Mental_sachinodu:

hackers like Assange


he is much more than that now. his motives are much better than any govt motives. i have nothing but respect for this man
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Infact hackers like Assange try to access these files much more than the government or any other organization.
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Subzero:

is this true ? I think it is bogus




nope, this is true. Government has access to all the data they need in India.
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oh common most of the list of companies that he provided are just product providers. Broadsoft, Sonus are softswitch, and carrier level equipment and software providers, who do installations, and once they do it, they do not have acess to this equipment or software. by federal law such telephony companies are required to maintain records of call data forever. this data is archived, this is where every use gets his own call records whether its for billing or reporting purposes.

eee panic pressing endhi nayana, yes data is stored forever, does anyone acess it? very questionable. probably some rogue employee might try to access the data, but organizations sharing data anedhi conspiracy, atleast with these companies.
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Entikaburlu:

India has been doing this for a long time. They even tell you this publicly. all maoist leaders are captured using their cell phone activity. so, what is new here?



is this true ? I think it is bogus
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Entikaburlu:

americalo aithe mostly immigrants ki pedathar anukuntunna, post 911 effect. anyway, now the lastest buzzword is "bigdata". where do you think the bigdata exists. that is how you push the science forward. so, be happy that you are pushing the science forward.


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Ok let us take the science to even forward where each and every thought of human captured in Big-fuxxxxng Db and Analyse that ....

More software jobs, More consumerism... more isolation More Bull Shit
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Chillarodu:

Bayya.. antha data ni analyse cheyyataaniki entha mandhi kaavali? it doesn't look practical.
poni evadanna avasaramunnodiki pedithe anukovachu.. alaa random gaa leka andhariki pedithe vache vupayogaalemi kanapadatlaa



americalo aithe mostly immigrants ki pedathar anukuntunna, post 911 effect. anyway, now the lastest buzzword is "bigdata". where do you think the bigdata exists. that is how you push the science forward. so, be happy that you are pushing the science forward.
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Entikaburlu:

holy cow.. finally someone could creepout ashtin.



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Entikaburlu:

the nearby sensor picks you and sends the id to the satellite which stores the movements in a database. there are several usecases. if you do not do anything stupid, you will be just fine. just do not do naything stupid, or seem to be acting stupid, which is difficult.




Bayya.. antha data ni analyse cheyyataaniki entha mandhi kaavali? it doesn't look practical.
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Ashton:

It sounds pretty creepy..




holy cow.. finally someone could creepout ashtin.
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Chillarodu:

Yikes.. what do they do looking at my chit?



butt means buttock, saami. when you are walking, the nearby sensor picks you and sends the id to the satellite which stores the movements in a database. there are several usecases. if you do not do anything stupid, you will be just fine. just do not do naything stupid, or seem to be acting stupid, which is difficult. for example, if you have migraine, and you are cursing the pain at top of your voice, some one may think you are a violent guy. previoulsy nobody knows that you do that. but now, someone knows that you are cursing. so you might get into trouble.
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Entikaburlu:

if you ever sat on a big fat cushy chair, and had a sudden sharp pricky pain for a couple of seconds, and gone, you have an RFID in your butt. I have one.


It sounds pretty creepy..
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Sarvabhouma_rao:

endhi bahyya baya pedhtunnavu? asalu ilaa elaa chestharu?




brother, RFID is a 1mm long less than hair breadth glass tube like a pellet. if they setup in a chair, you sit on it, it just goes into your buttock. you are all set. since it is not legal to implant, they do it transparently.
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Entikaburlu:

this is already done. if you ever sat on a big fat cushy chair, and had a sudden sharp pricky pain for a couple of seconds, and gone, you have an RFID in your butt.




Yikes.. what do they do looking at my chit?
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but what bugs me is this: you are taking away all the privacy using high-tech. but give the people something. like for example, why do i need to carry paper based documents like passports, visas, credit cards, etc. why do passports expire? why do i need to file IT return? You must know every thing! take my tax and tell me how it went! why do i send checks to pay bills? take it and go. you have every thing.
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Entikaburlu:

I have one.




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Sanman:

sounds like time for a new chair. it could be bugs




not at home. at work or when you visit other places.
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Entikaburlu:

if you ever sat on a big fat cushy chair, and had a sudden sharp pricky pain for a couple of seconds, and gone, you have an RFID in your butt.


sounds like time for a new chair. it could be bugs
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Ashton:

I've posted an article 2 years ago about how big brother is going to monitor each and everyone remotely from his own house...The next step they're going to do is embed the RFID chip on your arm to monitor your activities physically..




this is already done. if you ever sat on a big fat cushy chair, and had a sudden sharp pricky pain for a couple of seconds, and gone, you have an RFID in your butt. I have one.
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I've posted an article 2 years ago about how big brother is going to monitor each and everyone remotely from his own house...The next step they're going to do is embed the RFID chip on your arm to monitor your activities physically..

God bless America!
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the tragedy of civilization is this: previously, you are safe if you did not do anything wrong. Now, not only you should not do anything wrong, but you should not appear to be doing anything wrong by mistake. if you are in a strange country as a stranger, adjusting to strange stuff and look like you are doing something strange, you are screwed. on top of that, there is this entrapment. if the guy is not smart, he may be entrapped to do something stupid.
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news video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfdCBdOHoYA
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Good job Assange.entha sampadinchinaa inka denkeyyali type lo unde mana politicians lekkana tayarayyaru ee companies vallu kuda,aa data antha em chesukuntaro vallake teldhu,sannasulu.
http://i.imgur.com/84qe1.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXfXghRxy9M
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http://wikileaks.org/The-Spyfiles-The-Map.html

The above map shows the list of companies across the world that are spying on you..
This guy is truly something..
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Morpheus:

convienient gaa ANDROID ni excluded, but the biggest abuser is GOOGLE/Android than iOS


nenu ade anukuntunna may be android itself is a malware so nobody cares
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http://wikileaks.org/The-Spyfiles-The-Map.html

The above map shows the list of companies across the world that are spying you..
This guy is truly something..
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convienient gaa ANDROID ni excluded, but the biggest abuser is GOOGLE/Android than iOS
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India has been doing this for a long time. They even tell you this publicly. all maoist leaders are captured using their cell phone activity. so, what is new here?
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http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/julian-assange-to-iphone -blackberry-users-youre-screwed-2011121/

If the Carrier IQ scandal disturbed you, then prepare to be truly spooked: a Bureau of Investigative Journalism panel, headed by Wikileaks founder Julian Assange, says that surveillance companies are selling software that turns your smartphone into a spying tool. The software allegedly allows intelligence operations to take pictures without your knowledge, read and alter messages, and track your location.

Pratap Chatterjee of the Bureau of Investigative Journalism says that your phone can be used to record and upload data even when in standby mode. That data can include your location, images from your camera, and recordings of conversations. He said that iOS, Blackberry, and Windows Mobile (Windows Phone?) could run the spyware.

Assange was more blunt:

Who here has an iPhone, who has a Blackberry, who uses Gmail? Well you’re all screwed. The reality is that intelligence operations are selling right now mass surveillance systems for all those products.

The term intelligence operations conjures images of the CIA and MI5, but the documents specifically reference corporations, not governments. Businesses profiting from your private data is disturbing in itself, but if your every move and conversation is logged and processed on a server farm, it would be easy for governments to get access.

This isn’t the first time that privacy advocates have raised red flags about smartphone tracking. Earlier this year Apple released an iOS software update specifically to put out a location tracking media firestorm. More recently, US wireless carriers have been dodging and denying questions about the Carrier IQ software on Android and iPhones that may send user data — including keystrokes — to the company’s servers.

The panel’s allegations are the most sensational from 287 surveillance industry documents released today by Wikileaks.

If you have the stomach, you can read them at the link below:
http://wikileaks.org/the-spyfiles.html

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