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Vjawarrior:

Asal Life ante enti????????


jeevitham

Vjawarrior:

When do u feel satisfied????


u know it

Vjawarrior:

Emi achieve cheyyali life lo?


roti..kapada..makaan...

Vjawarrior:

entha dooram ee payanam?


maa voori smasanam daaka....
I'm not a Saint.
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Nisarga:

most of the times i think contraction could be due to stubborn beliefs, to strong mental patterns left by our beliefs/incidents.



Agree - and these are what cause rigid positions:-)

Nisarga:

what were you referring to when u talked of contractions?
most of the times i think contraction could be due to stubborn beliefs, to strong mental patterns left by our beliefs/incidents.
for example, i do not believe in evil/ghost but still I am afraid to go the places I would fear to go to as it is believed there were ghost in those places. is this a contradiction?




Yes - perfect example of the hurdle I mentioned in an earlier post below where approaching it from a different angle helps. Intellectually and rationally , you believe there is no ghost.The left brain tells you there is no ghost. But a deep seated fear triggers the emotional reflex and prevents you from acting rationally.
That contradiction is better resolved by working on that psychological aspect of fear than trying to intellectually rationalise emotions away :-)

Nisarga:

Or, for ex locality Vs causality. this could be a contradiction in our understanding of reality. we tend to reject one based on our belief or try to bridge the gap with some theory.
coherence in understanding is a requirement of our self probably disregarding the veracity of the underlying premises.



Hmm - the goal is to be able to look at the veracity of the evidence disregarding its effect on our 'position' and the more attached to the position we are the more difficult it becomes:-)

Nisarga:

we seem to harbor mutually contradicting ideas but i think deep inside we side with one and the other one happens to be the contradictory evidence.



Plato said " the ability to entertain an idea without necessarily accepting it is the sign of a developed mind "
Entertaining different ideas is to evaluate which one hold most true at the moment in light of evidence you have .. and having the flexibility to switch them when the weight of evidence shifts :-)And this is possible only when you go in with the awareness that you may have to do so - else it does cause the pain and frustration Masularex talked about :-)

Nisarga:

as for the position, we always to tend to take sides. the very reception of new ideas depends on how coherent it is with our existing beliefs/knowledge/interests. the very input could get colored per our beliefs.



Precisely why the range of our pattern template is critical-a wider and more granular range reduces the paradign distortion :-)

As to what is purpose - I see it as the goal, reason - not the process :-) But if the time window is short enough , the process and purpose become synonymous as in 'live in the moment' :-)
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btw, what is purpose? is it the process per which things run?
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good discussion anand/masularex. have not read the full thread anand, what were you referring to when u talked of contractions?

most of the times i think contraction could be due to stubborn beliefs, to strong mental patterns left by our beliefs/incidents.

for example, i do not believe in evil/ghost but still I am afraid to go the places I would fear to go to as it is believed there were ghost in those places. is this a contradiction?

Or, for ex locality Vs causality. this could be a contradiction in our understanding of reality. we tend to reject one based on our belief or try to bridge the gap with some theory.

coherence in understanding is a requirement of our self probably disregarding the veracity of the underlying premises.

we seem to harbor mutually contradicting ideas but i think deep inside we side with one and the other one happens to be the contradictory evidence.

as for the position, we always to tend to take sides. the very reception of new ideas depends on how coherent it is with our existing beliefs/knowledge/interests. the very input could get colored per our beliefs.
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Masularex:

if I am supporting every assumptions and convictions out there and trying to move forward and backward in every direction, then I will be more like a mother hen, who patrols her nest, just circling around and reaching nowhere. If I started walking in multiple directions at the same time, I will not be faraway from where I've started, and that walk will be very awkward and will create pain some where!




That and your earlier post on your anger at the 'old you' gives me some insight into your attachment to position is important.Peace :-)

Given that , I am hestitant to question the position you stated later in your post.. though I see a very obvious contradiction...Maybe some time later when you are able to eliminate the apprehensions we can explore it further :-)
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Masularex,
Whoa wait up ... Chala dooram vellipoyaru :-)

First and foremost - bad blood , etc anta scene ledu :-) Problem with written discussions is that we cannot judge the mood they are written in :-) those smiles I put on my posts are real ...
I do not take offense if someone questions my thinking- infact that is the purpose of discussion ..

My last post was an attempt to explain how my mind works with regards to positions and I would not have bothered to do that if I did not respect your approach or thought process :-)

Not intended as a lecture but In a philosophy discussion the focus should be the ideas , not the debaters . The only reason I and you become relevant is because we interpret and create them:-) the less passion we bring to the discussion the more productive it is :-)

You and I are both truth seekers - our base assumptions are different ante :-) meeru ichina earth round example ties back to my post earlier of everything having to work together .. On e one approach finds an absolute fact In one track i can go round and negate anything to the contrary in all my assumptions - that is what brings about the convergence I talked about :-) the assumptions only live till disproved completely :-)

Ee you , me egos ignore chesi discuss cheste we can have a great discussion :-) I enjoyed the discussion. And I have a very robust ego that does not need discussion victory points to sustain it
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jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Anand_n:

Have you thought there could be another approach to problem solving than the linear one you mention above? And why on earth does conviction have to be that I believe this to be true today so I have to believe everything else is false.


are you trying put words into my mouth? I said convictions can be changed! is it a misread or you just eager to declare me as an intellectual terrorist? to weed out the discrepancies, we need conviction. but you are against to any sort of conviction, assumption and stand!

long ago people believed that the earth was flat. that was a conviction based on their knowledge level and reasoning capacity at that time. later someone among them claimed that the earth was in fact like a marble in shape. he has provided enough proofs and reasoning. people opposed initially but gradually changed their stand after seeing the validity of the claim. later someone else came and explained that the earth shape is not exactly a spherical , but it is an oblate spheroid! after seeing the proofs and reason, people has again changed their conviction. if this is a linear thought process, where am I missing checks and balances?

if I am a truth seeker, my convictions are my steps towards the destination. after understanding and agreeing on how our earth has an oblate spheroid shape, just because I think somehow, someday it might be proved right, I just can't jump back and also support the old assumption of flat earth at the same time. doing so is an insult to my intellect! it is perfectly alright to change my assumptions and convictions at any time and travel in a new direction. if I am supporting every assumptions and convictions out there and trying to move forward and backward in every direction, then I will be more like a mother hen, who patrols her nest, just circling around and reaching nowhere. If I started walking in multiple directions at the same time, I will not be faraway from where I've started, and that walk will be very awkward and will create pain some where!


Anand_n:

You said it was your post 1075. Does that hold up against questioning in your mind?


with the subsequent posts, I've tried to put across my stand... that is... as an individual I am not a complete life form... I am part of a complete life form that is our entire human society. like with any life form, purpose of the human society is to sustain itself. for achieving that, it has delegated responsibilities downwards. I have a responsibility to work, create a family, innovate, investigate, rebel, provide amusement and many more. I can choose any one of them. It is not a life purpose chosen by me, but responsibility imposed upon me by the human society with very little choice.


I guess this bickering between you and me is creating bad blood. and we digressed considerably from the topic intended. let's agree to disagree. I am saying good bye to this thread. my sincere apologies if any of my ramblings offended you. I yet to learn the art of refrain. But I am trying. peace...
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Masularex:

yes it is important, because taking a position means you have a conviction, your conviction comes from your intellect. your intellect is your capacity for knowledge, understanding and reason. intellect can be improved. knowledge can be acquired. convictions can be changed. but they should not be in a fluid form always.




Have you thought there could be another approach to problem solving than the linear one you mention above ?:-)

And why on earth does conviction have to be that I believe this to be true today so I have to believe everything else is false.We do not have enough evidence either way. As Sagan said "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" :-)

What are convictions if not assumptions based on what we know at that point ?
And every conviction/assumption has a chance of being true or false.What you described is start with one assumption, validate it with knowledge you acquire and change the assumption if it does not work.

Why does that have to be a single threaded process ? Why can't I validate multiple assumptions at the same time and converge on a solution:-)


Masularex:

but they should not be in a fluid form always. if they are, then what is the purpose of a discussion? I agree with... you agree with me. end of story! now we have a kichedi of convictions in our minds which are contradictory to each other!




If indeed, all roads lead to Rome, validating multiple assumpsions/convictions keeps you moving in a converging spiral.And if you see they are not converging , it is easy to weed out the discrepancies :-) That actually presents a higher chance of approaching the centre than a straightline path that does not have the checks and balances :-)

Like I said these are all assumptions to me - and it is perfectly fine to have them contradict each other till I find the solution :-)



Masularex:

number of times you've supported ultra realistic views about the concept of god and religion in this very forum. again you put statements like god has given you life, god inside me or I am the god!




I have not changed my view of God in the last 5 years I have been in the DBs. I have supported atheistic views in this forum too - because just because I believe in my assumption of God , does not mean someone else's assumption is wrong..Infact I have also said that maybe it is my pscyhological need that causes me to believe in God :-)

Or may be all it is, is a difference in nomenclature - what you called conscience I call my aatmaguru/God :-) Changing your position gives you the ability to look and assess something from different angles and only improves your understanding :-)


Masularex:

please tell me what you think is my position on this topic




You said it was your post 1075. Does that hold up against questioning in your mind?
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Anand_n:

Why do you think taking a position is so important


yes it is important, because taking a position means you have a conviction, your conviction comes from your intellect. your intellect is your capacity for knowledge, understanding and reason. intellect can be improved. knowledge can be acquired. convictions can be changed. but they should not be in a fluid form always. if they are, then what is the purpose of a discussion? I agree with... you agree with me. end of story! now we have a kichedi of convictions in our minds which are contradictory to each other!

my particular objection with you, number of times you've supported ultra realistic views about the concept of god and religion in this very forum. again you put statements like god has given you life, god inside me or I am the god! I am not saying that you don't have a right to change your convictions, but where is the justification?


Anand_n:

how can you dispassionately question if you are rigidly attached to a position ?


please tell me what you think is my position on this topic (purpose of life)
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Masularex,
I am digressing from the main topic here into something different - positions/stands :-)

Why do you think taking a position is so important - I ask cos you got irritated at my jumping around in this thread and once earlier :-) So trying to understand your line of thinking...

Why is it so important to root yourself on a thought and only look at things from that perspective ? One thing we both seem to agree on is that we should never stop questioning our beliefs ..
So how can you dispassionately question if you are rigidly attached to a position ? Just curious - cos to my mind only of you are willing to let go of a position, you will question it - else we rationalize around any contradictions so we can stay attached :-)
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jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Masularex:



I concede, I don't have any argument against this "me" thing! I dare not question any thing about it since it seems to be a pretty amazing entity! it can turn absurdity into rationality. it can quash the contradictions and it can turn itself into any shape or form. I suspect it has mutant powers! I also suspect it can level the mountains... dry out the oceans... and kick the moon out of our galaxy.






You are right .. "Me" is a complex thing - it is a multilayered thing built by integrating rational knowledge, learning, thoughts and irrational emotions, beliefs etc...We do mutate to prevent a hurdle from paralysing us into inaction.That is the beauty of the human mind and its difference from a computer processor right now. And the way we handle contradictions is either eliminating them or integrate them as we go along:-)
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Anand_n:

But, me aside,you have not said what you see as the purpose of life


... see my post 1075

for rest of your post:

I concede, I don't have any argument against this "me" thing! I dare not question any thing about it since it seems to be a pretty amazing entity! it can turn absurdity into rationality. it can quash the contradictions and it can turn itself into any shape or form. I suspect it has mutant powers! I also suspect it can level the mountains... dry out the oceans... and kick the moon out of our galaxy. its getting scary now! peace...
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Masularex:

you were jumping from personal choices to religious thoughts from there to social relations and from there to emotional issues. what all these things to do with "is to create"?




:-) All these things are to do with "me" - all these things are part of what define the person "me" . And it is "me" who has to create - so what's the disconnect ? "I" am not partitioned along biological,philosophical, emotional, religious, social lines - hence everthing that makes up my psyche is what drives "my" purpose :-)


Masularex:

why can't we create a version of life purpose which is generic?



Because no two people are the same...our psyches and circumstances are different, our motivational drivers are different so it would be difficult to say this is your purpose..Unlike the ants in your analogy - we have the ability to move across functions..so how would a one size fit all ?


Masularex:

and more... "You are your own creation. God may have given you life."
in a life, where would you stop the "god" thing and start the "you" thing? who comes first?




From the point where we have control to act - where our will manifests itself is when we take control:-)

Masularex:

but you were using realistic and religious thoughts at the same time! isn't that contradictory? not only contradictory but confused grandeur at its peak!




Not to my mind - may be because my concept of God does not see God as a separate entity - God resides in me and guides me thru my conscience, my "self" , my aatmaguru- I do not refer to scripture to understand God's guidance, I tune in to my inner voice :-)

I read scripture and other philosophy to understand how others interpreted it over time - not to tell me how to act or what path to walk :-) You may call it conceit , you may call it grandeur , ego, but I find my inner voice to be the most reliable guide- it has never mislead me so far :-)

But, me aside,you have not said what you see as the purpose of life :-)
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Anand_n:

the context of the original question was purpose of his individual life as I understood it- not life at a macrocosm level.




ok... now I am moving away from that damn ant nest for god sake. no ant is biting...



Anand_n:



Purpose of life is to create
This is why art is so fulfilling - because creating, and taking ownership of your creation is so satisfying.

What is your ultimate creation? Your own life

The turmoil of why am I here, why did this happen to me, why is God punishing me all happens when you refuse to take responsibility for your own life. Watching life go by from the sidelines is neither entertaining nor fulfilling

Once you take full responsibility you are here because you chose to be, you got here because of the decisions you made and the actions you took.
You are your own creation.
God may have given you life, your parents may have given you resources and guidance but what you are as an adult, barring pure accidents/force majeure, will always be totally your own making.

At every point in life you have what you have-the resources at your disposal and the options available to you. You may not like where you are, but you cannot change that.
What you can change is what you are doing now that can change your present and that is all you need. By choosing to exercise certain options and use certain resources, even if they are limited, you are creating your future, your destiny

Take ownership and pride in that. You may have regrets about your past, but you also assume control of your present, and as a result, your future Acknowledging free will and using it for creative action is key

You are here to live the best life you can - "best" is subjective and depends on the person's individual priorities. Make that your quest and you will never find the time or the inclination to wallow in self-pity

You are the potter and you are the clay !
Keep moulding yourself - you may not end up being what you started out to be , but the process of creation is what makes life interesting




I couldn't get what exactly you've tried to say here? most of the post filled with negative thoughts presenting as positive suggestions! you were jumping from personal choices to religious thoughts from there to social relations and from there to emotional issues. what all these things to do with "is to create"? yes I am fully aware that this is the purpose of a condensed form of life which you think as a complete life! you've already said "this is for me; for your's, do your own search!" why can't we create a version of life purpose which is generic?

and more... "You are your own creation. God may have given you life."

in a life, where would you stop the "god" thing and start the "you" thing? who comes first? I don't mind if a pious man tells me, "god created me, he guides me, and I follow my holy books for finding the purpose of my life" but you were using realistic and religious thoughts at the same time! isn't that contradictory? not only contradictory but confused grandeur at its peak!

now, I am not really feeling sorry about the ants, even the queen ant is perplexed!
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Anand_n:

Philosophical Path + individual reality = constant


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Anand_n:



oh ochesaara
One who wins without problem -- it is just "VICTORY"
but one who wins with lot of troubles -- that is "HISTORY
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bump for Anand_n
One who wins without problem -- it is just "VICTORY"
but one who wins with lot of troubles -- that is "HISTORY
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Masularex,
:-) the context of the original question was purpose of his individual life as I understood it- not life at a macrocosm level.
Actually , now that you bring it up- at a biological level the purpose is to procreate / propagate .. The only reason for the auxiliary functions are to make the environment conducive to creation :-) after that function there is no biological reason to live :-)
This is programmed into the brain- create and/ or self-destruct - per Jung or Freud - I forget which ...
The trigunas/trisaktis parallel that - creation, preservation, destruction
Post biological purpose of creation, artistic/innovative creation serves as the proxy for biological creation - brainchildren instead of children ...
Thanks for triggering that chain - never thought of that connection till now ...,

As to potshots ,as I tell my son make them logical and I will be the first to acknowledge the joke on me but when the desire to take a shot causes missteps in logic - it defeats the purpose
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Anand_n:


I've tried that ant hill analogy only to put the meaning of life in a easily understandable way. It was not meant to declare that the human society is a complete analogue of an ant nest.

if some one said purpose of "their life" is to create, then I am completely happy with it. because he/she is a model citizen. society needs creators and innovators. but if the same person was saying that the purpose of life is to create; then I would raise an objection. here, my contention is with the meaning of life, not with their perceived purpose of life! In what sense he/she understand the meaning of life? socially,philosophically or biologically? from the inside or outside? are you an ant living inside a nest or are you a human observing that nest from outside?

like I said an ant nest is the only complete life out there. is it true? not really in a true sense. every nest requires males from other nests. other wise inbreeding produces defective ants which are genetically inferior and soon the nest will perish. here is the big picture, from a single nest, my definition of life now has been stretched across multiple nests in that particular geological area! like an elastic strap, we can stretch the meaning life into new levels and shrink it into the basic level again. in my example, combination of entire ant nests in that area is one basic life form. at basic level, purpose of life is to sustain life. when you move down, level of life and associated purpose changes. all nests have almost equal type of functioning and operating methods. within the nest, division of work happens. here, level of life came down to individual ants. now purpose of their life changes. one ant builds, one ant conceives, one ant nurses and other one defends...so on!


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Isn't that contradictory ? What is improvising if not creating ? If only new ways to do old things ?


I must agree that it was a contradictory within the context I've used that word! apologies if you think it was a attempted potshot at you! you mighty be right!.
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Masularex:

"just do whatever you are doing now and improvise things if possible".





Masularex:

not some fancy ideas like create stuff




Isn't that contradictory ? What is improvising if not creating ? If only new ways to do old things ?

Though I doubt the ant would even get the advice to improvise - it would more likely be to continue the work she's doing parallel to do your duty with detachment :-)

The need for improvisation stems from discontent with status quo, identifying it as inefficient or ineffective with room to improve - don't you think ?Otherwise what is the driver for improvisation ?
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Masularex,
:-) anthill analogy- GEB by Hofstadter has a good description. Calling Nisarga :-)

At a basic sustenance of systems level - I agree - we are as, if not more, dispensable , as ants. To the larger universe the life of one organism is insignificant :-)

The difference though is that humans have the ability to reflect, observe, and move between anthills - so to speak. With that the role changes , and within the anthill, the purpose changes. Humans can see conflicts between the individual and common goals - and can rationalise what they want to pursue , the analogy ends at the survival and existence level.

The development of the higher brain coincides with the higher level individual needs of humans - the esteem and actualization needs.. this is the part that questions on the purpose - that is restless when only the basic,comfort and survival needs are satisfied..

So yes, though the meaning of life is just breathing , metabolizing, etc.. The purpose of people is what makes it worth living after the survival needs are met :-) hence the many philosophies and debates and inquiry and quest for realization - all to meeting that actualization need IMO :-)
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Go and find an ant hill in the back yard. let us think we're inside of the nest and we're observing things intact. we will be seeing a lot of worker ants moving around busily and working without fatigue. they have a lot of work to do. tending and cleaning the eggs, feeding the larva, and digging the nest etc. only pleasure in their life they can have is having food. usually worker ants are sterile females who can't mate. turn aside and we can see solder ants resting there. they defend the nest. meet the queen. she is busy in eating food and laying eggs at the same time. few male ants are also there,they just eat and mate. nothing else.

now imagine, one worker ant started thinking. she is asking herself a question, "what is the purpose of my life?". what answer probably she would get? she has all the knowledge of her universe. her universe is her nest! that nest is a palm sized dust bowl down under. most likely answer she would get is "just do whatever you are doing now and improvise things if possible".

just that; not some fancy ideas like create stuff, understand philosophy, rebel against injustice etc etc. anything beyond that said answer is not even imaginable in her mind. because she is not designed for that. she just cannot leave the nest and goto the Himalayas in the pursuit of moksha! same with other type of ants. solder ants must protect the nest even at the cost of their life. so others must do their jobs. can these ants live in isolation of each other and still sustain the life? no! for sustaining life one must reproduce, usually only queen ant can reproduce. but minus worker ants and solder ants, a queen ant is nothing but a bird feed.

now let us stop our voyeristic trip down under and come outside. take some time. thing again. take a look at that nest from outside again. there should be an abstraction in our minds! we should have grasped some thing very important here! that nest with thousands of ants inside, is actually behaving like an individual organism! actually only complete life form out there is that nest, nothing else. not any worker ant or any other ant. these individual ants have a life for sure, because they breath, eat, and finally die. but this life is a pseudo life. all these ants are detached appendages of a bigger life form!

so... then what is the purpose this bigger life form/nest? purpose of this ant nest or any other life form is to sustain life! simple and rude. some where bellow I said "before knowing the purpose your life, you must understand meaning of "life". here is the trick, actually meaning of life is also the purpose of life.

now calling our op. I have news for you! good and bad news. you don't have to worry about the purpose of your life anymore, because you don't have a life; neither do I. we all are detached and working parts of a huge life form called the human society! financial institutions working like heart pumping blood, communication systems working like nerves passing information. governments and civil society working like a brain using accumulated society knowledge for decision making!

but where do we individuals stand? what is our purpose in this world?

depends upon the response... to be continued
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etu padithe atu genthe valante naaku koncham kopam! actual gaa "naa paatha" meeda naaku kopam, okkappudu nenu kuda anthe; prapanchamlo unna andaru tho machodini anipinchu kovali anukune vadani! tarawatha thelisindi adi jarige pani kaadani. vyaakaranamu... padakosalu... aham... pakkana pedithe... meeru raasindemito... daaniki naa vyathikarana ento meeke ardam avvuddi/avvaali! kaaka pothe nenemi cheyalenu!




Asalu ee discussion loki aham,conscience etc. etc. enduku vachayo ardham kaledu :-)To me its a simple discusion on philosophy - and how we all interpret it based on our ideas is what makes it interesting :-) Nothing more nothing less -kopalu tapalu ante meeru chala ekkuva attribute chestunnattu unnaru...



Senapathy:

Ekam Sat Vipra Bahuda Vadanti..
Not all paths all for all.




Nenu annadi ade kada ? Different paths because the individuals and their reality is different...math terms lo...
Philosophical Path + individual reality = constant :-) That is the balancing out I mentioned :-)


Senapathy:

Half lotus tho pani kanichestunna.. Time tho full lotus vastada, leda structural constraints valla half tho proceed avvadam ey naa..




Depends- but half lotus works fine or try vajrasana :-)
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tamari dash. maa muggurini chusi surfer gaadu ochaadu. aadu kuda gila gila

maa andarini kalipi 2 lifeguards save chesaar
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intha twaraga tellodu friend aipoyi, vaditho kalisi gaming ante manollu keka anukunna..ala oka 10 mins ayindi, shtill thinking nenela join avvala vallani ani - manaki swimming radu..




The One and Only handsome Hero in 150 yrs of TFI.Mercedes shud be proud for having been ridden by India's Most Charismatic Star Pawan Kalyan-VjaWarrior
It is like Sachin when he was 18-19 and someone like A R Rehman during his initial movies.You know they are destined for greatness.The same thing is with Jagan in politics-Vivekanandji
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details fleaje


2011 memorial day weekend..location: daytona beach...

after a night's heavy boozing, morning lechi kasepu pool/jacuzzi lo yee relax ayyi beach ki poyam..water lo digi ball aadutunnam....madhyalo breaks tiskuni challati beera kayalu tagutunnam..

nalugu tage sariki ma balya snehithulu ball game ni chala serious ga tiskunnaru....ball ekkadooo padite dive esaru iddaru..maku just 3 feet munduki..ee lopu evaro figure la kanapadite atu chusa....thala thippi itu chuste balya mitras + coke oka 25 feet dooram lo surf board ni pattukuni veladutunnaru..with some thellod...

intha twaraga tellodu friend aipoyi, vaditho kalisi gaming ante manollu keka anukunna..ala oka 10 mins ayindi, shtill thinking nenela join avvala vallani ani - manaki swimming radu..

ee lopu venaka ambulance lu hadavudi....life guards jump chesi chala kashtam meeda lagutunnaru andarni..appudu arthamaindi adi rescue operation ani..manollu rip current lo kottukupoyaru..samayaniki surfer surf board esi kapadedu - adi shtory
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appudu teliyaledu kani, tarvata alochiste mee mugguru entha lucky no arthamaindi..



details fleaje
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Cocanada:

samudram lo paddadi nenu.



Jp_rocks:

and spot lo monna nalugu desis poyaru - like mosquitoes..ilanti incidents nannu marchesai...


andulo nee incident kuda include chesko....appudu teliyaledu kani, tarvata alochiste mee mugguru entha lucky no arthamaindi..

jai mrityunjay biryani
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Cocanada:

infatuation definition cheppinattu clear ga cheppesaavu gaa


edo ala kalisochindi :D

Spy_india:

jast simple ga super ga cheppaaru


I survived, Saved, I shouldn't be alive, Survived - beyond and back from death lanti tv shows chusi chusi - NORMAL ga comfortable ga (escaping mother nature's elements) undatam entha lucky no artham aindi

and spot lo monna nalugu desis poyaru - like mosquitoes..ilanti incidents nannu marchesai...
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Jp_rocks:

being alive and healthy should present us with utmost satisfaction


samudram lo paddadi nenu. davilogs cheppedi nuvvu
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infatuation definition cheppinattu clear ga cheppesaavu gaa
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Diviseema:

aham brahmasmi

the word which changed my life.




LOL. nuvu kindal jesina aadi sankaracharya cheppina maatalu ivi.
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Live it. Live it while sipping a cup of coffee, live it while you are tucked into your robe - warm and cozy, and slouched on the couch..live it while driving your car & playing your fav music.....live it while enjoying a drink..live it while learning from a failure..just do it type lo just live it





jast simple ga super ga cheppaaru
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Vjawarrior:

Asal Life ante enti????????


It is a gift, a chance, an incredible stroke of luck

Vjawarrior:

When do u feel satisfied????


Since life is a gift, being alive and healthy should present us with utmost satisfaction - all other issues are part of the game

Vjawarrior:

Emi achieve cheyyali life lo?


Live it. Live it while sipping a cup of coffee, live it while you are tucked into your robe - warm and cozy, and slouched on the couch..live it while driving your car & playing your fav music.....live it while enjoying a drink..live it while learning from a failure..just do it type lo just live it

Vjawarrior:

entha dooram ee payanam?


sachinodi pelliki ochinde katnam..life unnannallu enjoy cheyyi
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etu padithe atu genthe valante naaku koncham kopam! actual gaa "naa paatha" meeda naaku kopam, okkappudu nenu kuda anthe; prapanchamlo unna andaru tho machodini anipinchu kovali anukune vadani! tarawatha thelisindi adi jarige pani kaadani. vyaakaranamu... padakosalu... aham... pakkana pedithe... meeru raasindemito... daaniki naa vyathikarana ento meeke ardam avvuddi/avvaali! kaaka pothe nenemi cheyalenu!
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Till one day you are aware of your real You and starts perfroming duties without getting attached.





I am struck by the lightning of love and burnt beyond repair - Florentino Ariza
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On other note, full lotus position ki flexibility undadam ledu. Half lotus tho pani kanichestunna.. Time tho full lotus vastada, leda structural constraints valla half tho proceed avvadam ey naa..
I am struck by the lightning of love and burnt beyond repair - Florentino Ariza
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Vjawarrior:

Asal Life ante enti????????
- Life is the precipitation of desire in physical realm. It is real and not an illusion.

When do u feel satisfied????
- It is relative and progressive. You will be satified when you know your real identity.

Emi achieve cheyyali life lo?
- Do your duty that as a son,husand, father, citizen wiht passion.
entha dooram ee payanam?




- Till one day you are aware of your real You and starts perfroming duties without getting attached.
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Anand_n:

There has to be something that balances them out




Why?

For beginners I generally quote that Moksha is like a lake you reach following small streams. Some flow through forests, some flow through deserts and some flow through plains etc. Each path you follow will be filled with different perceptions of the stream and reality ahead. Only when you reach the lake will you appreciate the beauty in harmony inside the lake.

Meeku telsu kaada.. Ekam Sat Vipra Bahuda Vadanti..

Not all paths all for all. For egjample, tantra is not for everyone, so is bhakti rasa.. etc etc
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By now you should know I don't get ruffled that easy :-) and I was genuinely curious on how that connection came about thought you had some interesting idea i did not get :-)
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Sena,
I am not talking about Kodi-pakodi,morality, right wrong contradictions :-) those are based on scope of perception, which side of the line you are on etc...

I am thinking more in terms of philosophies towards purpose of life/ realization and why so many options / paths that seemingly contradict each other but promise to lead to
the same goal :-)

What makes the end result same ? There has to be something that balances them out - I hypothesize that is the individuals make up/ reality :-)

Konchem kashtam short passage lo explain cheyyatam - kabhi mile to itminaan se baat karenge:-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
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Anand_n:

elaborate please


I know I've ruffled the wrong feathers, Enough with our ramayanamlo pidacala veta!. let's get back with our op! what exactly he wants?
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Anand_n:

if they contradict each other, it defies logical purpose






Not such scene. Contradictions untayi, undali kooda. Universal appeal is a misnomer. Meeku kodi, pakkodiki pakodi manchi items..
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Masularex:

why? don't you have a clear conscience?




Not sure I understand the connection between philosophy- realism not negating each other and and my conscience...elaborate please :-)

To me they have to work together as ancient philosophies were guides to living life in the real world - if they contradict each other, it defies logical purpose :-) why do you think they can negate each other - is it based on scope of perception ?
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From a chemist view point. We and a matter of fact, the whole known, universe is a collection of few fundamental particles that interplay among each other to mainfest as a myriad of structures, emotions and phenomenon..

When you reach me, you encounter a sea of atoms and molecules. All play a cosmic dance and reflect in what we call life. Amen.
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Anand_n:

they cannot negate each other


why? don't you have a clear conscience?
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Masularex,
Have a tendency to do that - everything has to work together in my mind - they cannot negate each other:-) I go with the assumption that some of the ancient philosophies and theories are true:-) so my approach is to juxtapose those with experiences and check the intersection points to validate the theory and my understanding :-)

It's a nOt a linear thought chain - the best way to plot it is what is called a mindmapping - ideas, thoughts in multiple directions , seemingly unconnected but a web nonetheless :-)

And I totally understand the random jumps bewilder others - so my apologies :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Masularex:

entiah nee gola? ekkuva matchelu adaadu ante daani ardam andarini telisi untaadu ani kaadu! paatha... koncham kottha players kuda untaru, allaki vere wave length untadi seniors tho




emi samaj aita ledu
emanntunnava jara telgu lo seppu tammudannai..
Driving is my PASSION. No matter of what I must reach my Final Destination.
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entiah nee gola? ekkuva matchelu adaadu ante daani ardam andarini telisi untaadu ani kaadu! paatha... koncham kottha players kuda untaru, allaki vere wave length untadi seniors tho! ekkuva meda uupaku... kinda ginjalu patteyagalavu... naraalu chediri... kidneylu gurinchi nenu seppedi
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Masularex:



Driving is my PASSION. No matter of what I must reach my Final Destination.
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nunchi

Driverramudu:


+100


Anand_n:


chala drift ayyi poyaaru meeru... realism nunchi... myopic philosophy ki. I've lost words.
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Anand_n:

Sattva tatvam vallaki they find it in the preserving force - quiescent, observer, detached aspect works for those



Driving is my PASSION. No matter of what I must reach my Final Destination.
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Masularex:


sleeping more than six hours daily is more than a ton of gold,




Amen to that :-) Puns are fun ani use chesanu...


Masularex:

to know the purpose of your life or any other life, one must understand the meaning of life. and that meaning is very abstract in nature.




Hmmm - and subjective. So best to arrive at what works for our nature anipistundi :-)

Rajas is the creative force - and people like me with a strong dose of that are more inclined to the creative, actor aspect:-)
We have to be part of the action , not the audience :-)

Sattva tatvam vallaki they find it in the preserving force - quiescent, observer, detached aspect works for those :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Anand_n:

kitne tula/kilo sona is the question


sleeping more than six hours daily is more than a ton of gold, that's what I meant;

on serious note; to know the purpose of your life or any other life, one must understand the meaning of life. and that meaning is very abstract in nature.
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hehe ... veligindi ... yeah, you can add that
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Pic of the decade thread lo




aa thread lo naa post kuda unnattu lede!
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Masularex:

khaana... peena... sonaa...




kitne tula/kilo sona is the question :-)

Rowdy:

pakka thread ante?



Pic of the decade thread lo

Vishwak:

So, don't waste the ticket..Watch out the show properly..



IMO, Better to act in the show :-)


Diviseema:

our journey is to our destiny and our destiny lies in the path of our journey.



Very well said :-)

Driverramudu:

good to hear and feel good in virtual imaginative world



Virtual /real is a matter of perspective...But it is good to see the change in your view of life:-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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khaana... peena... sonaa... kabhi kabhi mona ke saath sonaa!
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5 stars to ur post no 10550

good to hear and feel good in virtual imaginative world :-)
Driving is my PASSION. No matter of what I must reach my Final Destination.
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those are the perfect answers for any person who wann lead live with sucess
no matter of what having character or self-respect at the end of the day who cares

success matters in life most
Driving is my PASSION. No matter of what I must reach my Final Destination.
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Vjawarrior:




Q1 : Asal Life ante enti????????

My ans :

Kannu teriste jananam.
Kannu mooste maranam.
Reppa Paatu laantidi Jeevitam

Q2 : When do u feel satisfied????

My ans: Manam emi chesina adi correct anukovadam
chance unte others emi chesina adi tappu ani kooda anukontunnanta kaalam
u get atmost satisfaction.


Q3 : Emi achieve cheyyali life lo?

Kinda padina manade pai cheyi ani anukovadam...

Q4 : entha dooram ee payanam?

My ans: Saaginanta kaalam swaary cheyadam...
nijaalu bayatpadite sorry ani seppi tappinchkontu
munduku saagi pota undaali


Yes I am telling that


Driving is my PASSION. No matter of what I must reach my Final Destination.
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aham brahmasmi


Telisindhi Gorantha, Teliyanidhi Kondantha... had a great impact in my life.

This is my philosophy now
kRUshITHO nAsthee dURbhikSHAM!!
JP_ROCKS: ...der unte enchakka andarni giant wheel ekkistadu..girrr mani oogachu..
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Kallai mattum kandal, Kadavul theriyathu. Kadavul mattum kandal, kalladi theriyathu

see what u want is what philosophy tells. see both and enjoy whatever u see and evaluate to ur best of the knowledge is what makes philosophy.
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aham brahmasmi

the word which changed my life.
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//Asal Life ante enti????????
When do u feel satisfied????
Emi achieve cheyyali life lo?
entha dooram ee payanam?//

life ante properly rotten. oka tiffen box lo annam petti close chesi oka 2 weeks tharuvatha theesi choodu. u will find life.

we will be 1st satisfied when we get milk and last when we feel that we did everything possible for ourselves/for the dearest.

we have to achieve value, whatever form it may be.

our journey is to our destiny and our destiny lies in the path of our journey.
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Vjawarrior:

Asal Life ante enti????????




Life is a TICKET to watch the greatest show on the earth. its valid for (atmost) 100 years.

So, don't waste the ticket..Watch out the show properly.. :-)
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Anand_n:

Rowdy - dber profiling expert anna qualification add cheyinchandi :-)




pakka thread ante?
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Rowdy:

hahaha ... ademanta kashtamaina pani kadu ... pani manesi threads follow avvadame naa laa




Pakka thread lo

Rowdy - dber profiling expert anna qualification add cheyinchandi :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Anand_n:

DB lo inellu ga clear ga ardham ayyindi emiti ante you cannot project either the state of mind or intent of someone who asks questions




hahaha ... ademanta kashtamaina pani kadu ... pani manesi threads follow avvadame naa laa
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Rowdy:

meeru ee thread ni maree inta serious ga teesukunnara?




DB lo inellu ga clear ga ardham ayyindi emiti ante you cannot project either the state of mind or intent of someone who asks questions :-)so better to answer the best I can - just in case they are serious :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Idhoka life thammudu



ewwww....
Saayam Pondina vaadu kruthagntha choopinchaka povadam entha thapppoooooo....
Saayam chesina vaadu kruthagnatha korukovatam kooda anthe tappu.....
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTHs6j3zLO0&feature=player_embedded

Idhoka life thammudu
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aa tittededo direct ga tittochu gaa
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deenamma jeevitham...podhuna lesthe OT meedha Edavatamenaaa




em edupu ra ayya .. ee edupu ki anthey ledha ..

- adavi tammud
Maa cinema collection ATHYADHIKA kotlu .. maave genuince collections
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deenamma jeevitham...podhuna lesthe OT meedha Edavatamenaaa





Fans are mainly fans of their own fanship rather than the fans of whom they claim to be fans of - RGV
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Okadini noppinchakunda okadini yedipinchakunda manam badha padakunda happppy ga prati roju enjoy seyyyadamey Life with koncham daiva chintana & daiva bhakti




deenamma jeevitham...podhuna lesthe OT meedha Edavatamenaaa
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Asal Life ante enti????????




Okadini noppinchakunda okadini yedipinchakunda manam badha padakunda happppy ga prati roju enjoy seyyyadamey Life with koncham daiva chintana & daiva bhakti
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meeru ee thread ni maree inta serious ga teesukunnara?
Fans are mainly fans of their own fanship rather than the fans of whom they claim to be fans of - RGV
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Cocanada:

paapam pillaadiki answer kakapoyina....inkonni questions cheppandi. help avutundi


Edo mee recommendation candidate ani na answer cheptunna


Vjawarrior:



This is something I wrote in response to a similar question in the DB almost a year back. Coincidentally I dug that up just today for my son to revisit and assimilate as he turned 16 - this is my answer and so far it has stood the test of validation for me...but do not take this as your answer - you have to find a purpose that gives you that ultimate joy and impetus consistently :-)

Purpose of life is to create:-)
This is why art is so fulfilling - because creating, and taking ownership of your creation is so satisfying.

What is your ultimate creation? Your own life :-)

The turmoil of why am I here, why did this happen to me, why is God punishing me all happens when you refuse to take responsibility for your own life. Watching life go by from the sidelines is neither entertaining nor fulfilling

Once you take full responsibility you are here because you chose to be, you got here because of the decisions you made and the actions you took.
You are your own creation.
God may have given you life, your parents may have given you resources and guidance but what you are as an adult, barring pure accidents/force majeure, will always be totally your own making.

At every point in life you have what you have-the resources at your disposal and the options available to you. You may not like where you are, but you cannot change that.
What you can change is what you are doing now that can change your present and that is all you need. By choosing to exercise certain options and use certain resources, even if they are limited, you are creating your future, your destiny

Take ownership and pride in that. You may have regrets about your past, but you also assume control of your present, and as a result, your future Acknowledging free will and using it for creative action is key

You are here to live the best life you can - "best" is subjective and depends on the person's individual priorities. Make that your quest and you will never find the time or the inclination to wallow in self-pity :-)

You are the potter and you are the clay ! :-)
Keep moulding yourself - you may not end up being what you started out to be , but the process of creation is what makes life interesting :-)

aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Zulu:

A wise man once said 'Life is like a jar of jalapenos; What you do today may burn you ass tomorrow' :d





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Zulu:

'Life is like a jar of jalapenos; What you do today may burn you ass tomorrow' :d




The One and Only handsome Hero in 150 yrs of TFI.Mercedes shud be proud for having been ridden by India's Most Charismatic Star Pawan Kalyan-VjaWarrior
It is like Sachin when he was 18-19 and someone like A R Rehman during his initial movies.You know they are destined for greatness.The same thing is with Jagan in politics-Vivekanandji
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Vjawarrior:

Asal Life ante enti????????




A wise man once said 'Life is like a jar of jalapenos; What you do today may burn you ass tomorrow' :d
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Cocanada:


venki: thotakura tho pappu cheskogalam kaani sambar cheyyalem kada
T sakuntala: endi raa..memu sambandham gurinchi matladutunte nuvvu sambandham lekunda matladutunaav




endhi intha coincidence.....
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Razesh:

avunaa...endhi ittanti dialogue lu kuda raasthunnaraa cinemalo....


ori nee yenkamma

venki: thotakura tho pappu cheskogalam kaani sambar cheyyalem kada
T sakuntala: endi raa..memu sambandham gurinchi matladutunte nuvvu sambandham lekunda matladutunaav
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Cocanada:

namo venkatesa naa?
jesht ippude chusaa




avunaa...endhi ittanti dialogue lu kuda raasthunnaraa cinemalo....
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Razesh:


dhaantho pappu chesukogalam kaani pappu chaaru cheyyalem...


namo venkatesa naa?
jesht ippude chusaa
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Anand_n:


edo praasa kosam ala anaanu. paapam pillaadiki answer kakapoyina....inkonni questions cheppandi. help avutundi
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Jeevitham Thotakoora lantidhi....

dhaantho pappu chesukogalam kaani pappu chaaru cheyyalem...
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Cocanada:

realiization ki kuda invigilation aa?




:-) yep - internal invigilator is always vigilant- catch you from misstepping :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Anand_n:

Sorry not shortcuts or cheatsheets


realiization ki kuda invigilation aa?
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Vjawarrior:


Asal Life ante enti ante...Get a life antaventi babu....
Inkonni threads esko annai...





Fans are mainly fans of their own fanship rather than the fans of whom they claim to be fans of - RGV
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Vjawarrior:

Im becomin philosophical at times....hmmmmm




Being philosophical does not mean just qustioning - you have to answer those questions and then validate those answers too - then ask new questions- its not a short term timepass activity , its a continuous inquiry :-)

Sorry not shortcuts or cheatsheets:-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Akira007:

ileanamma



mugguru vedhavalu tho ninnu ooyalu ooginchaneeki raaabothandi twaralo...
The One and Only handsome Hero in 150 yrs of TFI.Mercedes shud be proud for having been ridden by India's Most Charismatic Star Pawan Kalyan-VjaWarrior
It is like Sachin when he was 18-19 and someone like A R Rehman during his initial movies.You know they are destined for greatness.The same thing is with Jagan in politics-Vivekanandji
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Anand_n:

LOL - ivi meeku meeru answer cheyyali kani evaro chepte emi use ?



I donno...Im becomin philosophical at times....hmmmmm
Saayam Pondina vaadu kruthagntha choopinchaka povadam entha thapppoooooo....
Saayam chesina vaadu kruthagnatha korukovatam kooda anthe tappu.....
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Vjawarrior:

Asal Life ante enti????????
When do u feel satisfied????
Emi achieve cheyyali life lo?
entha dooram ee payanam?




LOL - ivi meeku meeru answer cheyyali kani evaro chepte emi use ?
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Akira007:

ileanamma


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Vjawarrior:


you yourself - enough. thats all.

no attachments.

that is purpose of life anukunutnaa
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ileanamma forth coming movies emunnay?
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Rocks annai ready ga undandi malli malli raadhu ee chance ...... vjawarrior and akira annai kotladukuntunnaru ...idhe chance eseyandi :D
MEE abimaananni nenu gundello dhachukunta kani thala ki ekkanivanu - Pawan Kalyan
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Cocanada:

Kushi ga Jalsa cheyadam
RTC X roads varaku. akkada housefull ayithe Gokul theatre varaku



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Vjawarrior:

Akira007:
dude
stop waiting for pk movies and get a life

Asal Life ante enti ante...Get a life antaventi babu....




According to AKira...Life is Allu Arjun...Eat,drink and sleep AA..
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Vjawarrior:

Asal Life ante enti ante...Get a life antaventi babu....




after u stop waiting for pk movies.. u dont ask this Q
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Vjawarrior:


Asal Life ante enti ante...Get a life antaventi babu....
Inkonni threads esko annai...




The One and Only handsome Hero in 150 yrs of TFI.Mercedes shud be proud for having been ridden by India's Most Charismatic Star Pawan Kalyan-VjaWarrior
It is like Sachin when he was 18-19 and someone like A R Rehman during his initial movies.You know they are destined for greatness.The same thing is with Jagan in politics-Vivekanandji
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Akira007:

dude
stop waiting for pk movies and get a life



Asal Life ante enti ante...Get a life antaventi babu....
Inkonni threads esko annai...
Saayam Pondina vaadu kruthagntha choopinchaka povadam entha thapppoooooo....
Saayam chesina vaadu kruthagnatha korukovatam kooda anthe tappu.....
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Blackmamba:

vunkl edaki poyinaave.. naal dinaal sandi kaanosthaled..




eedaney unna... db is boring with village rules... edo parvathamma, sunnyamma,sriyamma photos choosthu kaalam gadupu thunna
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Akira007:

Asal Life ante enti???????? : To watch alLu Arjun movies
When do u feel satisfied???? : When alLu Arjun gets a hit movie
Emi achieve cheyyali life lo? : To watch almost all alLu Arjun movies 100 times
entha dooram ee payanam? : until alLu Arjun acts in good telugu directors movies


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Vjawarrior:

tell me what it is ...seriously?





dude
stop waiting for pk movies and get a life
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vunkl edaki poyinaave.. naal dinaal sandi kaanosthaled..
The One and Only handsome Hero in 150 yrs of TFI.Mercedes shud be proud for having been ridden by India's Most Charismatic Star Pawan Kalyan-VjaWarrior
It is like Sachin when he was 18-19 and someone like A R Rehman during his initial movies.You know they are destined for greatness.The same thing is with Jagan in politics-Vivekanandji
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ee thed lo highlight ante akira annai warrior annai thed lo raavadam ....... monna emo warrior annai nenu akira ante evaru anni theds esthaadu aayane naa ani adagadam
MEE abimaananni nenu gundello dhachukunta kani thala ki ekkanivanu - Pawan Kalyan
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Coke/NTR Rocks annai.....
tell me what it is ...seriously?
Saayam Pondina vaadu kruthagntha choopinchaka povadam entha thapppoooooo....
Saayam chesina vaadu kruthagnatha korukovatam kooda anthe tappu.....
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MEE abimaananni nenu gundello dhachukunta kani thala ki ekkanivanu - Pawan Kalyan
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Asal Life ante enti???????? : To watch PK movies
When do u feel satisfied???? : When PK gets a hit movie
Emi achieve cheyyali life lo? : To watch almost all PK movies 100 times
entha dooram ee payanam? : until PK acts in good telugu directors movies
Climax: http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/9283/pqaaakss7pkoas0hrqptde2.jpg
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Vjawarrior:

Asal Life ante enti????????



Kushi ga Jalsa cheyadam

Vjawarrior:

When do u feel satisfied????



Power star ki hit ochinappudu

Vjawarrior:

Emi achieve cheyyali life lo?



PK ni ardham cheskune capacity ravali

Vjawarrior:

entha dooram ee payanam?



RTC X roads varaku. akkada housefull ayithe Gokul theatre varaku
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anni ques ki ans okate....POWER STAR PAWAN KALYAN
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Asal Life ante enti????????
When do u feel satisfied????
Emi achieve cheyyali life lo?
entha dooram ee payanam?
Saayam Pondina vaadu kruthagntha choopinchaka povadam entha thapppoooooo....
Saayam chesina vaadu kruthagnatha korukovatam kooda anthe tappu.....

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