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Pak lo Hindus undatam vaallu chesina first tappu ..

If you look at history .. Pak lo (including sikhs and Bengali Hindus) hindus, infact Kashmir lo Hindus gurinchi kuda partition lo asalu aalochinchaledu aa naati pedda manushulu .. and it affected almost 6-8 crores people .. which is 20% of the population of that days` Akhand Bharat. Alantappudu aa roje venakki vachesi undalsindi .. or atleast correct leaders ni back chesi valla future ni safeguard chesko valasindi ..

Eppudaina sare .. before saying "extremists" on both sides of border are same .. oka sari .. vaalla demands/ideas chusi teerpu cheppali ..

Extremists on the Paki side of the border .. say they dont need Hindus on their land .. did we hear that from the right wing/extremists? infact they were even opposed to partition in the first place ..

mari intha basic difference pettukuni equate cheyyadaniki siggu veyyadam laa?
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Telugu_times:

zia hanged bhutto for the division of country and corruption ani sadhivinatlu gurthu, andhukay i thought bhutto was pres at that time.



Chesindi Yahya, bakra Bhutto ni chesaru. Edo political opponent ni chempichadu ani hang chesadu Zia.
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Ustad:


google sesina...you are right
zia hanged bhutto for the division of country and corruption ani sadhivinatlu gurthu, andhukay i thought bhutto was pres at that time.
dawn thelivi lay...it happens
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gisuvanti threads lo manakenduku...naduv..


ok annai lets go mana batch kanapadaka poye sariki ila daari thappi vachaanu
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Telugu_times:

sr.bhutto time lo anukuntaa, bangla formation



Appudu president Yahya kurrod. Ofocurse, Bangla dobbina tarvatha Yahya gone & PPP nunchi Bhutto president ayyadu.

General elections lo Mujeeb govt. ki landslide majority osthe athi telivi pradarshinchi Bhutto & Yahya games adinru. Bengalis rule cheyadam vellaki istam ledu. Aa oppression ni tokakdaniki opeartion searchlight. Bangla separatist movement ki idi main reason.
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Gatti_gunde:

pak olu mana muslims gurinchi baadha padithee neram maadhiri speechulu isthaaru




India lo muzs pak ollu badha padey stage lo leru...period.

Monney numbers tho thread vesa.
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gisuvanti threads lo manakenduku...naduv..
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Telugu_times:

hollywood,underworld,old city
inkaa emi maaya rugam


ippudu ODI jaruguthundhi anukondi IND vs SA sinnu baa SA ani thoda kodithe no problem ...nenu Auddie ki thoda kodithe problem ....adhe muslim sodarudu paki kee kaadhu vere ee country ki kottina desa bhakthi ni kochen sethaaru ..... ilaantivi kuda unnai bolly underworld old city tho paatu
MEE abimaananni nenu gundello dhachukunta kani thala ki ekkanivanu - Pawan Kalyan
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Gatti_gunde:


hollywood,underworld,old city
inkaa emi maaya rugam
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Ustad:


sr.bhutto time lo anukuntaa, bangla formation
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hindus in pak gurinchi manam baadha padochu kaani ... pak olu mana muslims gurinchi baadha padithee neram maadhiri speechulu isthaaru
MEE abimaananni nenu gundello dhachukunta kani thala ki ekkanivanu - Pawan Kalyan
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Humpty_dumpty:

things have been going worse since a long time ani naa yokka adhi idhi



Correct ga down avvadam 65 nunchi started. 65 war Ayub dobettadu, Yahya time lo Bangadesh form ayyindi.
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Humpty_dumpty:

baba zia time eppudu? almost naa age anukuntaaa



1978 - 1988.
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Telugu_times:

jinnah speech choodu bro okapaali on 14th aug 1947
After jinnah...gradually changed and with zia ul haq...end of minorities
kashmir lo same to same happened in late 1980's



Pak ni gabbu lepindi Zia kurrod and Afghan ZIAhad against Soviets. Of course, aa Ziahad support chesinanduku 1999 varaku full aid + nuclear program ki clearance vachindi.

1999 - 2011 struggle period. tommidi padkondu ayyindi, malli WOT perutho full funding. Ippudu malli struggle started.

Recent ga BBC lo Pak Army & ISI paina katti lanti documentary. Time unte, all 6 parts chodandi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YFbnpyiceY
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Indiarocks:

Paiga naa post lo Pak support anta..LOL


aap ko aisaa samajh aaaya...lost in translation...leave it

@TT
baba zia time eppudu? almost naa age anukuntaaa
things have been going worse since a long time ani naa yokka adhi idhi
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Telugu_times:

As you said, Jinnah wanted a country for muslim majority...but wanted a secular muslim country
he was not fanatic, infact he rarely went to masjid and i read somewhere that he even used to eat pork.




Jinnah wanted country with muslim majority danitho paatu own political ambitions kooda reason anukunta.

Lekapothe 1/2 desam oka pakka, inko half inko pakka madhyalo verey country naa? Intha senseless demand ekkadina untunda?
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As you said, Jinnah wanted a country for muslim majority...but wanted a secular muslim country
he was not fanatic, infact he rarely went to masjid and i read somewhere that he even used to eat pork.
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Telugu_times:

jinnah speech choodu bro okapaali on 14th aug 1947
After jinnah...gradually changed and with zia ul haq...end of minorities
kashmir lo same to same happened in late 1980's




enti meeru kooda Pak support aa?
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Zulu:

Kamedy enti ante ..these people are moslty dalit and tribal hindus..Antha minority aiya kooda pak hindus lo unity raledhu cassette feeling poledhu..so, hindu reps from urban class..upper cassettes dont pay much attention to the plight of these folks



Wrong analogy.
US lo, India lo laaga, minirity rights untay...pak lo hindus kooda peekay vaallu
president and prime minister MUST be a muslim
seperate constituencies for minority electorate
itlaa untay...evadainaa peekedhi emi undadhu. Paigaa rural lo, fuedal gaalladhay rajyam, aada muslim women kay dhikku ledhu, inka hindu women endhi?
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Humpty_dumpty:

pak was founded on 2 nation theory ani realise ayi, akkada inni yrs kastabadatam enduku



jinnah speech choodu bro okapaali on 14th aug 1947
After jinnah...gradually changed and with zia ul haq...end of minorities
kashmir lo same to same happened in late 1980's
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Humpty_dumpty:

yes, maa high school batchmate gaadu kooda ilanay political reasoning ichi pak kee support chestaa untaadu

your point is acceptable if this was 1951
pak was founded on 2 nation theory ani realise ayi, akkada inni yrs kastabadatam enduku




HAHA em comedy vayya, 100s of yrs oka oorlo bathiki, partition avvagane problems vastayi ani evaru oohistaru. Inni rojulu bathikamu kada aney alochistaru.

Inko point enti ante pak was supposed to be secular with equal rights for all in the vision of jinnah.

Paiga naa post lo Pak support anta..LOL
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aada kashmir lonay dhikku ledhu...mallee pakistan hindus anta

Maverick:

nenu hindu from pak kurrod okadni meet ayya ee madhye



Harish Gangwani gaaday naa?
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Uppu:


failure of of governance kee improvement chance untaadhee ani manishi aasha
birth defect lo improvement expect cheyyatam is a hopeless thing...

pak lo non muslims andaru problems face chesthaaru...youhana kurrod geddam penchukuni matham marchukunaadu with systematic brainwashing

anayways, i know that it is easy for me to pass comments
my real angst is not against these people but their sufferings
peace out
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Humpty_dumpty:

pak was founded on 2 nation theory ani realise ayi, akkada inni yrs kastabadatam enduku


antha easy kadu sonta ooru vadili povatam, manaki Florid effected areas lo janam enduku vacate cheyyatledu
âGenerations to come will scarce believe that such a one as this walked the earth in flesh and blood.â
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Indiarocks:

its very unfair to call it their mistake. Evaro politicians teesukunna hasty decision ki vallu valla illu vakili vadilesi ekkadiko vellipovali ante elaga?
Our partition was full of deep $hit, where decisions were made without addressing all concerns. They are suffering.




yes, maa high school batchmate gaadu kooda ilanay political reasoning ichi pak kee support chestaa untaadu

your point is acceptable if this was 1951
pak was founded on 2 nation theory ani realise ayi, akkada inni yrs kastabadatam enduku
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Humpty_dumpty:

no idea
but 60 plus years is a long time for these ppl to have realized the mistake they made staying in pak anukuntunna




its very unfair to call it their mistake. Evaro politicians teesukunna hasty decision ki vallu valla illu vakili vadilesi ekkadiko vellipovali ante elaga?
Our partition was full of deep $hit, where decisions were made without addressing all concerns. They are suffering.
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Maverick:

nenu hindu from pak kurrod okadni meet ayya ee madhye




Hindus who come from urban middle class from Pak cities do not have any problems in most of the cases. If you ask them about these issues, they will say it is media exaggeration,

It is the rural poor paki hindus who face these problems on day to day basis..most of them work for thulak Fuedals..it is their daughters that are abducted..raped (or married in thulak words)..their rights denied

Kamedy enti ante ..these people are moslty dalit and tribal hindus..Antha minority aiya kooda pak hindus lo unity raledhu cassette feeling poledhu..so, hindu reps from urban class..upper cassettes dont pay much attention to the plight of these folks

I used interact with few hindus from pak is orkut pak hindus community..idi akkada nundi vachina naledgy
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no idea
but 60 plus years is a long time for these ppl to have realized the mistake they made staying in pak anukuntunna

(Message edited by humpty_dumpty on November 29, 2011)
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vellaki enduku visas ivvatledhu mana govt




vote bank amma..
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Humpty_dumpty:

hmm...atleast they made it out of that place




mana Kashmiri Pandits vacate chesina tents lo Pakistan Hindus ni ettara..
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Film_fan:

there is a high tendency for some political wings to make these issue a morally scoring points.....to show other parties as monsters....

happens at all levels....

Gaddafi is an ally....4 yrs back....
he is a own-people-torching-monster the other day.....

everyone uses spin and media.....bottomline....




Foreign policy is different. Im not saying it is justified but, domestic policies have more serious consequences.

Only votes penchukovatam kosam religion ni use cheskuntaru, malli chaduvukuni daniki support chestaru.
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The problem with myopia is, it does not enable one to see distant objects clearly. Likewise, two ideologies which are distant from each other, but also far away from the observing myopic eye, appear closer. Cannot help, but correct it.
Give me blood, I will give you freedom - Netaji
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Hindu/Christian ammailanu love/abduct chesi Islam ki convert cheyadam, Hindu bizinessman deggara jaziya (mamool) vasul cheyadam baaga common Pak lo.

Pak is completely screwed up. People like Zaid Hamid (who created a threatening video asking Hindus to convert to Islam) sitting next to Imran Khan (future PM & poster boy of Army & ISI) tells the whole story.
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Comedy enti ante, pakka desam lo edi aithe anyayam antaro, India lo same policies ni support chestaru.
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there is a high tendency for some political wings to make these issue a morally scoring points.....to show other parties as monsters....

happens at all levels....

Gaddafi is an ally....4 yrs back....
he is a own-people-torching-monster the other day.....

everyone uses spin and media.....bottomline....
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Saudi lo kooda....ilantivi boldu.......we see pakis land is villians land...(it is) but majority turak unna chota.....inthey stories untayi......

low level lo ee chikaku ekkuva...




Country ki religion antagatti, prathi daniki book lo vethikithe ila kaka ela untayi.

Comedy enti ante, pakka desam lo edi aithe anyayam antaro, India lo same policies ni support chestaru.
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Pakisthanis Hindus are pakisthani nationals.....

India has no obligation to extend extra services because they are hindus.....

indian govt has a very stringent procedure to issue visas to pak nationals and that applies to everyone......

UK nunchi oka paki ki India visa kavalantey.....6 months wait....any other national.....2 days......

this is because of reciprocal policies of both countries.......
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Maverick:

nenu hindu from pak kurrod okadni meet ayya ee madhye



detalis ettu.....elaa undi anta hindus paristhithi akkada? discrimination etc

btw kurrodidi ye caset?
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Gandhi's USP has never been politics/governance in a democracy, with all due respect to him.



Then I am interested to know whats the holy book that dictates politics/religion to be kept avowedly separate? Also what is Gandhi's USP?
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they have a good percentage of hindus there....

Saudi lo kooda....ilantivi boldu.......we see pakis land is villians land...(it is) but majority turak unna chota.....inthey stories untayi......

low level lo ee chikaku ekkuva...


with all due respect......if you ask an immigrant who knocks the doors of neighbouring country.....tells the same kind of tales......

Tamils in Srilanka ni kaidipithey....manam 10 mins lo edchey stories....boldu septhaaru......human rights kaadhu kadha....asalu humans gaaney choodar....
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Kamal:

It must be noted that Mahatma Gandhi, too, had come to the realisation that "those who say that religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion means" (M. K. Gandhi, An Autobiography or The Story of My Experiments with Truth, p. 591).




Gandhi's USP has never been politics/governance in a democracy, with all due respect to him.

Ayanni okkadine follow aithe eepatiki muzs ki 25% reservation in parliament, separate electorates undevi.
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nenu hindu from pak kurrod okadni meet ayya ee madhye
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It must be noted that Mahatma Gandhi, too, had come to the realisation that "those who say that religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion means" (M. K. Gandhi, An Autobiography or The Story of My Experiments with Truth, p. 591).
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Pak is a prime example on why religion should be kept away from politics, and governance.
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Pakis should suffer n suffer n suffer for thousands of years...
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Pakis ala kukkalu chimpina vistari kavadaniki ide reason anukunta....
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Zulu:

He is constitutionally directed to vote only for the Hindu candidates in their designated constituencies.


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idebba bangla gallu free ga vachhestaru mana desam lo ki...vellaki enduku visas ivvatledhu mana govt...EP rules untayi mana desam lo
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Tarun Vijay is a Rajya Sabha MP and national spokesperson of the Bharatiya Janata Party.



Thankfully .. maa vaallu kondaru aina cheyyalsina pani chestunnaru .. glad ..

Indian govt ki 7 years paatu visa reject cheyyadaniki reason ento explain chesthe baguntundi ..
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hmm...atleast they made it out of that place
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http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/slide-show-1-hindus-in -pakistan-the-nowhere-people/20111129.htm

Tarun Vijay visits a tent camp in New Delhi where Hindu refugees from Pakistan try and start a new life.

Pakistan doesn't send just terrorists like Ajmal Kasab. They send Hindus too -- forcing them to flee if they want to save their honour and their lives.

The common Hindu is a mute spectator to the changing times and the Abbotabad, Haqqani and ISI phenomenon.

He cannot comment on the political situation of his country. He cannot vote as freely as a common Muslim Pakistani. He is constitutionally directed to vote only for the Hindu candidates in their designated constituencies.

A country that might have taken birth in 1947, but the land belonged to his ancestors for centuries. He is as much the owner of the land of the 'pure' as any other religionist. But while the 'other' religionist is free to vote and shout for his rights and participate in the mainstream activities, he for just being a Hindu is asked to live in a cocoon.

Hindu women do not display the bindi or mangalsutra out of fear. Most of the Hindu temples (except a few I saw in Karachi) have posters and calendars in place of stone images of gods and goddesses. Their kids have to learn, compulsorily Islamiyat in schools.

Even in areas like Sindh and Hyderabad, where Hindu concentration is comparatively larger, no school is allowed for minorities to teach their children their religious books and cultural values. They have to do it silently in their homes.

Hindu priests too wear half skullcaps to look like everybody else around. Identity shouldn't be disclosed, is the first step to survive.

One evening my friend and renowned human rights activist Rajesh Gogna took me to meet some of the Pakistanis who had to leave the land of their ancestors in search of dignity and freedom.

They were in tents and their kids were playing in the dirt. But their faces looked glowing with confidence and assured safety. They were smiling.

Freedom makes even the refugee souls happy.

They are all from Sindh Hyderabad, Pakistan -- 28 families, 151 persons, including women, kids and the old men.

Arjun Das, their more vocal leader says, "We tried for seven years to get visas from the Indian embassy. Every year we returned with denials. It had become an annual ritual for us to travel to Islamabad, as India has no consulate in Karachi. We would wait for hours and days outside the Indian High Commission for our turn to come. And then they would say -- visa nahin milega (you won't get a visa)."

"This year, fortunately we got the visa and silently came out of Sindh, Hyderabad. We too the train to Lahore and then to the Attari border by bus. We had visa permission to visit Delhi and Hardwar, so reached here in the ashram of our Guru Baba Ghunni Das Maharaj."

Lacchmi is in her early seventies. She was playing with her grandson and said, when I asked why she chose to come to India, she said: "We have had a life full of misery and ghulami. I didn't want that for my grandchildren. They must get a chance to live as Hindus and study. It's nothing but Islamiyat teachings in schools and the entire atmosphere pushed our kids either to convert to Islam or live a rotten life worse than animals."

I met Jeevan, a 14-year-old boy. He says, "I was stopped from wearing a hanuman locket by my teachers in school. They taught Islamiyat and teased me for having a tuft. They would always use sarcastic words to belittle me before my friends, for no reason."

Abusing and cracking jokes on Hindus is a common practice. Even in their movies and plays, often Hindus are shown as lecherous, ready to do any dirty thing for money, and as spineless banias.

Sobha Ram, 65, says, "If you have money, you may survive by giving donations to Islamic organisations. But what do we have? Our honour is always at stake. We can't go to the higher authorities. We don't have any resources. We work in the farms of Muslim landlords and make a small living. But our daughters and sisters are always victims of the lust of landlords. They are forcibly converted, nikahs are solemnised without our consent and then there is nothing but darkness for us."

"Even in death they humiliate us," says Sobha Ram, "often they don't allow us to cremate our dead. Our cremation grounds are encroached upon and they tell us to bury our dead as the cremations leave a 'bad odour' that they dislike."

So far Gogna's Human Rights Defence India organisation has helped these hapless refugees from Pakistan.

Some other organisations are also chipping in.

They too are trying to make a living by selling mobile phone covers and small toys in the Old Delhi area.

They want citizenship, a place to live and start a new life.

Do we have time and a political will to hear their woes and help? Certainly there are well meaning Pakistanis, columnists and human rights activists in Islamabad and Karachi, who feel for them, write for their rights and take up their cause in Islamabad, braving the Talibnanised atmosphere.

Hats off to their efforts.

But they can just write and have such incidents mentioned. The help at ground level demands state government's intervention and a political will in Islamabad.

Tarun Vijay is a Rajya Sabha MP and national spokesperson of the Bharatiya Janata Party.

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