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Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 29998 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.224.36
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - 06:01 am: |
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Oohlala:keeping aside the fair/unfair argument, what positive impacts are you anticipating with 51% vs. somewhat low investment?
he says .. like automobile sector .. India will benefit .. asalu aa statement ee chaala confusing ga undi .. what and where did we "drastically" benefit? Hyundai/Daewoo somewhere 1997 lo vachayi country lo ki .. or may be a little later .. appatike Maruti was going full steam .. Esteem lanti cars ni introduce chesindi .. ofcourse .. you might say .. Maruti had Suzuki's technical expertise .. I dont deny .. that helped .. but why are we digressing from this successful model and instead allowing 51% and 100% in retail anedi .. something that blows over my head .. post 1997 zamana lo .. Hyundai, Ford, Honda etc majors vacheppatiki .. world wide jarugutunna auto advancements ee India lo kuda jarigaayi anukuntunna .. and there are some bad examples of allowing FDI also .. take Coke, Pepsi for instance? oka 2000-3000 crores capital tho vachi .. appati daaka exist avutunna desi drinks annitini kill chesesaayi .. monopolize chesaayi .. ippudu every year 1000s of crores profits go to USA thru coke and pepsi .. anthe tappa .. appropriate legal and fiscal measures tho .. 26% FDI ni allow chestamu ante matram tappu kanipinchindi .. I donno what kind of India these people want .. may be a clone of some western country .. Give me blood, I will give you freedom - Netaji |
   
Oohlala
Comedian Username: Oohlala
Post Number: 1390 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 173.36.196.7
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 04:01 pm: |
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Indiarocks: So small businesses going bankrupt is only a myth?
I am not an expert and didn't have a chance to explore more. However 51% is concerning. Huge retail chains might displace the small mom & pop shops (like it did in US )if they can't offer competitive pricing and still maintain margins. keeping aside the fair/unfair argument, what positive impacts are you anticipating with 51% vs. somewhat low investment? |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8324 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 03:53 pm: |
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Oohlala:I don't this stmt is accurate. Urban middle class shops in the nearest shop, proximity has more importance than kirana/chain.
So small businesses going bankrupt is only a myth? What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Siloan
Hero Username: Siloan
Post Number: 19850 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 132.174.20.41
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 03:47 pm: |
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telangana kooda down ayyindi... BJP deela padipoyindi.....pesthuthaaniki voggeyandi... jai Lahore |
   
Oohlala
Comedian Username: Oohlala
Post Number: 1389 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 173.36.196.7
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 03:45 pm: |
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Indiarocks:akkada urban middle class small kirana shops lo shop cheyadam eppudo manesaru
I don't this stmt is accurate. Urban middle class shops in the nearest shop, proximity has more importance than kirana/chain. |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 29994 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.234.230
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 03:23 pm: |
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Film_fan:next elections ki.....
 Give me blood, I will give you freedom - Netaji |
   
Film_fan
Hero Username: Film_fan
Post Number: 19327 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 78.146.68.236
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 03:18 pm: |
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thread title marchandi......maree shameless kaadhu kaani......parsthutaniki......direction less..... next elections ki.....all less.....only high pitch voices.... We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit. -- Aristotle
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Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8323 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 03:16 pm: |
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Kamal:alage .. ayya .. chittam .. inka untaam ..
ok, mee vallu harikatha cheptaru, chevilo puvettukuni ... What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 29993 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.234.230
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 03:14 pm: |
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Indiarocks:cheyali.
Indiarocks:anali.
alage .. ayya .. chittam .. inka untaam .. Give me blood, I will give you freedom - Netaji |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8322 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 03:11 pm: |
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Kamal:http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_left-bjp-unites-against -retail-fdi_1009652 from 2006 .. you can try doing your nerolac job with more poise now
nerolact job naada, mee valla flipflop ni link ichi maree prove chestunnavu kada? 2004 lo they themselves propose it. 2006 lo oppose anta. And they shamelessly say that it is going to hit small business. Bharti ki 49%, or 74% share unte small business ki nastam enti? Is Bharti a small business? Inkenni stories cheptaru mee vallu? Fact is they will do the same if in power. Clear idi, 2004 lo vachestamu anukuni pettaru, now they want to make it an issue by raising unnecessary fears. Nijamga sincerity unte, Indian non-export friendly policies, overly soft import policy, lack of ban on imports of major indian agri products points raise cheyali. No FDI kaadu, yes FDI, but with Indian manufacturing anali. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 29991 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.234.230
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 03:02 pm: |
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Indiarocks:abboo...2006 lo 51% ante mee vallu oppose chesara? Alage wholesale lo 100% ante oppose chesara?
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_left-bjp-unites-against -retail-fdi_1009652 from 2006 .. you can try doing your nerolac job with more poise now .. Give me blood, I will give you freedom - Netaji |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8321 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 02:59 pm: |
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Kamal:I say .. dream on .. especially when China does not allow its currency to fluctuate and India plays by the rule book ..
But wages in China are rising. They can't do it for ever. Kamal:75% Indian owned aithe .. profits from the retailing is 75% in the hands of Indians .. Thanks .. In my view, thats the point that has to be looked upon ..
LOL...china nundi anni import chesina kooda na? Automotive example ichanu ignore aa? What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8320 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 02:57 pm: |
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Kamal:NDA allow chesta annadi 26% only in 2004 .. daani gurinchi matladu .. appudu thread initial post ki answer dorikestundi ..
abboo...2006 lo 51% ante mee vallu oppose chesara? Alage wholesale lo 100% ante oppose chesara? What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 29990 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.234.230
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 02:55 pm: |
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Indiarocks:75% indian owned aina, 49% aina import policies are the same. So nothing changes wrt how they do business. Indian businesses emi charity cheyatla, buy only Indian ani,
75% Indian owned aithe .. profits from the retailing is 75% in the hands of Indians .. Thanks .. In my view, thats the point that has to be looked upon .. Give me blood, I will give you freedom - Netaji |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 29989 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.234.230
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 02:53 pm: |
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Indiarocks:Hence with manufacturing friendly policy, India can steal some of India's manufacturing.
I say .. dream on .. especially when China does not allow its currency to fluctuate and India plays by the rule book .. Give me blood, I will give you freedom - Netaji |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8319 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 02:53 pm: |
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Kamal:also .. how can 26% FDI translate into exclusive shops is something I am still awaiting an answer
single brand yes, multibrand probably not, but its a moot point. 75% indian owned aina, 49% aina import policies are the same. So nothing changes wrt how they do business. Indian businesses emi charity cheyatla, buy only Indian ani, What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 29988 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.234.230
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 02:51 pm: |
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Indiarocks:Enti idi, 26% in single brand retail aa, 51% 2006 lone allow cheste already.
NDA allow chesta annadi 26% only in 2004 .. daani gurinchi matladu .. appudu thread initial post ki answer dorikestundi .. Give me blood, I will give you freedom - Netaji |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8318 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 02:51 pm: |
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Getafix:Today FDIs allowed and tomorrow these MNCs will lobby for cheap imports to meet prices.. Pakkane unna China ki pandaga inka..
What makes you think Reliance cannot lobby for cheap imports? THis then is a problem with our import policy, not FDI. Infact imports from China is a booming small business today. Small businesses do not have the capital to set up manufacturing, hence they tend to import. Large chains have capital, so, given a manufacturing friendly policy they can provide capital to set up manufacturing in India. One thing that needs to be fixed for sure is our import policy with China esply. Its high time that we get a share of the manufacturing industry. Btw, Indian avg wages are 1/2 that of China. China percapita income of China is 3x that of India. Hence with manufacturing friendly policy, India can steal some of India's manufacturing. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 29987 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.234.230
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 02:50 pm: |
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Indiarocks:Whole sale lo 100% undi kada aina collaboration enduku undi?
Indian domestic market understand chesukodaniki matrame Bharti tho collaborate ayyamu ani Walmart cheppinattu ga gurtu .. correct me if I am wrong .. also .. how can 26% FDI translate into exclusive shops is something I am still awaiting an answer Getafix:Marginal farmers and small scale traders ki chippa ee FDIs valla..middle class consumers and high income vallu matrame benefit avutharu.
Thanks for being frank .. nenu middle class lo kuda chala mandi negative ga affect avutaru anukuntunna .. with respect to incomes .. because there will be lot of people from agri who will be forced to come to cities quitting agro/retail and the middle class expands in population, while the overall % it holds in the economy shrinks .. far reaching disastrous consequences for the society Give me blood, I will give you freedom - Netaji |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8317 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 02:46 pm: |
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Kamal:26% FDI in single brand retail tho Walmart stores open cheyyagalada .. exclusive ga .. yes/no?
Enti idi, 26% in single brand retail aa, 51% 2006 lone allow cheste already. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Getafix
Side Hero Username: Getafix
Post Number: 9018 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 02:44 pm: |
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Today FDIs allowed and tomorrow these MNCs will lobby for cheap imports to meet prices.. Pakkane unna China ki pandaga inka.. Marginal farmers and small scale traders ki chippa ee FDIs valla..middle class consumers and high income vallu matrame benefit avutharu. |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8316 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 02:44 pm: |
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Kamal:26% FDI in single brand retail tho Walmart stores open cheyyagalada .. exclusive ga .. yes/no? 2006 lo Bharti tho collaborate ayyindi ani telusu .. thats not the point ..
Bharti collaboration ye asalu point. Whole sale lo 100% undi kada aina collaboration enduku undi? What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 29986 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.234.230
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 02:42 pm: |
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Indiarocks:Neeku teliyademo, wholesale lo 100% already open chesaru. Taruvatha mee vallu power loki vachina emi change cheyala to change policy. Walmart already opened stores in India, wholesale ones. 51% in single brand retail has also been opened in 2006 itself.
nenu adigindi cheppu chaalu .. anavasaramaina gyaan vaddu .. 26% FDI in single brand retail tho Walmart stores open cheyyagalada .. exclusive ga .. yes/no? 2006 lo Bharti tho collaborate ayyindi ani telusu .. thats not the point .. Give me blood, I will give you freedom - Netaji |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8315 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 02:35 pm: |
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Kamal:
Neeku teliyademo, wholesale lo 100% already open chesaru. Taruvatha mee vallu power loki vachina emi change cheyala to change policy. Walmart already opened stores in India, wholesale ones. 51% in single brand retail has also been opened in 2006 itself. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 29985 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.234.230
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 02:24 pm: |
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Indiarocks:Flipflopping for political brownie points ni edo oka well thought out stand for the country ani color istunnavu gaa. Fact is BJP power lo unte same chesevallu.
LOL .. 2003 lo ne Indian govt meeda pressure vachindi .. we did not act ani clear ga cheppadu jaitley .. still .. flipflop ani nerolac vesukuni digutaa ante .. fine .. i dont mind .. Kamal:ante .. 26% allow cheste, still walmart can directly open a shop aa? confirm aa? then how does it matter if it is 1% or 26% or 51% or 100% .. anni same ainappudu? why not allow 100% then?
tondara ga answer chepte .. padukunta velli .. Give me blood, I will give you freedom - Netaji |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8313 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 02:20 pm: |
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Kamal:I can understand you angst that without this bloody FDI, that 9% growth glitz will fade in no time. But it is not just you, JP or LSP's propriety to demand what people "should" do, while it could have availed the opportunity to make the govt act.
Automotive industry example ichanu, inthakante evaru cheppaleru. Manufacturing lo same situation, infact automotive was worse. Flipflopping for political brownie points ni edo oka well thought out stand for the country ani color istunnavu gaa. Fact is BJP power lo unte same chesevallu. Asalu eppudo chesi unte Indian manufacturing ippatiki China ki competition ayyedi. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8312 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 02:17 pm: |
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Take a clue form the automotive industry -
quote:Vehicles manufactured or assembled in India Manufactured only in Chennai, India, the i10 is one of Hyundai's best selling globally exported cars. Maruti Swift. Maruti Suzuki, a subsidiary of Japan's Suzuki Motor, is the largest automobile manufacturer in India.[74] BMW India:[75] 3 Series, 5 Series, X1, X3. Fiat India[76] (in collaboration with Tata Motors): Grande Punto, Linea. Ford India:[77] Figo, Fiesta Classic, Fiesta, Endeavour. General Motors India[78] Chevrolet:[79] Spark, Beat, Aveo U-VA, Aveo, Optra, Cruze, Tavera. Honda Siel:[80] Brio, Jazz, City, Civic, Accord. Hyundai Motor India:[81] Eon, Santro, i10, i20, Accent, Verna, Sonata Transform. Land Rover:[82] Freelander 2 Maruti Suzuki:[83] 800, Alto, WagonR, Estilo, A-star, Ritz, Swift, Swift DZire, SX4, Omni, Eeco, Gypsy. Mercedes-Benz India: C-Class, E-Class. Mitsubishi[84] (in collaboration with Hindustan Motors):[85] Lancer, Lancer Cedia, Pajero. Nissan Motor India:[86] Micra, Sunny. Renault India:[87][88][89] Fluence, Koleos. Toyota Kirloskar:[90] Etios Liva Etios, Corolla Altis, Innova, Fortuner. Volkswagen Group Sales India: Audi India: A4, A6, Q5. Å koda Auto India:[91][92] Fabia, Rapid, Laura. Volkswagen India:[93][94] Polo, Vento, Jetta, Passat.
Before their coming, Indian auto manufacturing was also in its infancy. Today, Indian auto industry is one of the fastest growing. Indian companies like Mahindra, Tata are successfully competing with foreign, and are even dominating in some sectors. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 29984 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.234.230
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 02:14 pm: |
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Indiarocks:Auna, 26% "foreign direct investment", ante walmart cannot setup its shop aa, Evariki cheptaru vayya stories.
ante .. 26% allow cheste, still walmart can directly open a shop aa? confirm aa? then how does it matter if it is 1% or 26% or 51% or 100% .. anni same ainappudu? why not allow 100% then? Indiarocks: FDI capital can be used to boost up manufacturing. This is what the opposition should ask.
I can understand you angst that without this bloody FDI, that 9% growth glitz will fade in no time. But it is not just you, JP or LSP's propriety to demand what people "should" do, while it could have availed the opportunity to make the govt act. Give me blood, I will give you freedom - Netaji |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8311 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 02:08 pm: |
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Kamal:When it is 26% FDI, Walmart will not be setting up its shop in India, it can only invest in existing retail chains and send its representatives to board meetings, where in it can pass on expertize to the domestic retail chain so that the profits are maximized and it rakes what it intends to do, while bettering the supply chain processes using its technological expertise.
Auna, 26% "foreign direct investment", ante walmart cannot setup its shop aa, Evariki cheptaru vayya stories.
Kamal:Ofcourse .. it has to almost start from the scratch when compared to where Walmart and its likes are placed. The point that you missed is, you are already agreeing that there is a need from preparing domestic market/manufacturing sector to compete with foreign players when you are opening up retail. But you fail to realize that the govt has even failed to start the process of preparing the domestic sector.
FYI, Walmart is not a manufacturing unit. FDI capital can be used to boost up manufacturing. This is what the opposition should ask. Not oppose it blindly, or flipflop on the issue for politics What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 29982 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.234.230
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 02:05 pm: |
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Indiarocks: Over 10lk population ante cities, akkada urban middle class small kirana shops lo shop cheyadam eppudo manesaru.
absolute bull .. intha confident ga kishore biyani kuda abaddam aadadu .. not more than 10-15% people flock these retail giants .. meeremo .. 100% ki vesesaaru .. you should visit Hyd to see how people still go to kirana stores .. Give me blood, I will give you freedom - Netaji |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 29981 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.234.230
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 02:03 pm: |
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Indiarocks:You are talking as if we have to start from scratch.
Ofcourse .. it has to almost start from the scratch when compared to where Walmart and its likes are placed. The point that you missed is, you are already agreeing that there is a need from preparing domestic market/manufacturing sector to compete with foreign players when you are opening up retail. But you fail to realize that the govt has even failed to start the process of preparing the domestic sector. On the other hand, for whatever reasons, you are trying to attribute ulterior motives to the opposition and leave govt scot-free of its criminal conduct. Indiarocks:How come it was 26% then?
you should certainly understand what you are asking, when you specially use cliparts unnecessarily. When it is 26% FDI, Walmart will not be setting up its shop in India, it can only invest in existing retail chains and send its representatives to board meetings, where in it can pass on expertize to the domestic retail chain so that the profits are maximized and it rakes what it intends to do, while bettering the supply chain processes using its technological expertise. I did not expect you to not understand this. Give me blood, I will give you freedom - Netaji |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8310 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 02:01 pm: |
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Vijay77:Walmart lanti big monsterni theche mundu mana "mom and pop" stores ni oka range ki theesukoni vachi appudu doors open cheyyochu. Daaniki emanna plan chesara. Ippudu urgent gaa monsters ni dimpalsina avasaram emi vachindi? Mana local kirana shops ki infrastructure ledu, regulations follow avvadam ledu, global giants tho compete cheyya leru. Mundu vallaku subsidies ichi, educate chesi, awareness kaliginchi next fdi ki doors open cheyyochu. Deeniki oka 2 years paduthundi. Aa tharvatha kirana stores vaallu compete cheyyaleka pothey valla kharma. Oka 2 years lo emi cheyyalo plan lekunda, ippdudu back doors lo evo funds vasthayani corporates pressure ki doors urgentgaa open cheyyalsina avasaram enti. Edo farmers ki melu jaruguthundani chain lo oka link(small shop owners) lepesthey daani meedi indirect gaa depend ayye valla paristhithi emiti?
LOcal kirana shops are not a competition to retail chains, period. Over 10lk population ante cities, akkada urban middle class small kirana shops lo shop cheyadam eppudo manesaru. Competition are Indian retail chains. Corporates pressure okkate kaadu, India is in dire need of FDI to maintain growth. My only concern is that Govt should use this opportunity to boost manufacturing in India. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Vijay77
Comedian Username: Vijay77
Post Number: 1357 Registered: 06-2010 Posted From: 199.41.197.24
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 01:55 pm: |
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Indiarocks:BJP promised 26% FDI in retailing in their 2004 election manifesto. Ippudu FDI will hurt traders, and farmers anta. Text from manifesto
Walmart lanti big monsterni theche mundu mana "mom and pop" stores ni oka range ki theesukoni vachi appudu doors open cheyyochu. Daaniki emanna plan chesara. Ippudu urgent gaa monsters ni dimpalsina avasaram emi vachindi? Mana local kirana shops ki infrastructure ledu, regulations follow avvadam ledu, global giants tho compete cheyya leru. Mundu vallaku subsidies ichi, educate chesi, awareness kaliginchi next fdi ki doors open cheyyochu. Deeniki oka 2 years paduthundi. Aa tharvatha kirana stores vaallu compete cheyyaleka pothey valla kharma. Oka 2 years lo emi cheyyalo plan lekunda, ippdudu back doors lo evo funds vasthayani corporates pressure ki doors urgentgaa open cheyyalsina avasaram enti. Edo farmers ki melu jaruguthundani chain lo oka link(small shop owners) lepesthey daani meedi indirect gaa depend ayye valla paristhithi emiti? |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8308 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 01:53 pm: |
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Aunu btw, today manufacturing is not reformed, so 8yrs ago it would have been a lot worse. How come it was 26% then? What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8307 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 01:52 pm: |
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Kamal:You think manufacturing reform is done overnight in a whisker? Great wisdom.
Enni yrs kavali, meeru power loki vachedaka? LOL... You are talking as if we have to start from scratch. If that is the case we are already importing everything, right? What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 29980 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.234.230
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Indiarocks: Foreign retailers will have capital to invest in India, so, what the Govt should do is to facilitate tie-ups between local manufacturing, and retail chains. Provide cheap capital to set up manufacturing in India. At the same time restrict china imports. This is what China is doing. FDI actually can be used to initiate the manufacturing reform that Jaitley is talking.
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Kamal:so in your view, that makes Big Bazaar on par with Walmart .. right?
When it comes to cheaper foreign imports, yes. If BigBazar finds something cheaper elsewhere dont tell me that he is not going to import it bcoz he wants to sell only Indian. Foreign retailers will have capital to invest in India, so, what the Govt should do is to facilitate tie-ups between local manufacturing, and retail chains. Provide cheap capital to set up manufacturing in India. At the same time restrict china imports. This is what China is doing. FDI actually can be used to initiate the manufacturing reform that Jaitley is talking. And ironically they blindly oppose it just to play cheap politics. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Kamal
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Film_fan:majority of indians view is with left and BJP ana mee uddesam....
going by the number of MPs supporting this issue, I think the govt is already in a minority by a distance. Give me blood, I will give you freedom - Netaji |
   
Film_fan
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respect your view .. but as a govt .. it should follow majority of Indians view . --- majority of indians view is with left and BJP ana mee uddesam.... inka memorandam pettamanatam better....than going with only-sound-no substance oppostion of our country.... if majority of people aney argument thesthey.....congress will say....we have majority mandate......i dont agree with that line...but.....govt's have some liberty to take decisions...... memorandum to people antey sari..... i dont think.....majority are on oppostions side.....on this one.... We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit. -- Aristotle
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Kamal
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Post Number: 29977 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.234.230
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Indiarocks:LOL...imports from China is a booming small business in India today. Domestic retailers source domestically anta. Tying import policy with FDI which is meaningless.
so in your view, that makes Big Bazaar on par with Walmart .. right? Give me blood, I will give you freedom - Netaji |
   
Morpheus
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Post Number: 1597 Registered: 12-2010 Posted From: 199.204.165.130
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 01:39 pm: |
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Idle_yzag:inka time raledhu ana
inka time aa unna states lo kooda tooduchuku potundhi Ba Ja Pa |
   
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Kamal:
inka time raledhu ana, kikiki RahulGandhi/JP/Chiru |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 8305 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
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Kamal:
Boothu #1: So do you want India to become a center where we allow foreign companies to come in and set up these large chains which eventually instead of selling domestic products out sourcing internationally the cheapest sources and selling those products. Please remember domestic retail normally sources domestically, international retail sources internationally because they source from the cheapest sources. LOL...imports from China is a booming small business in India today. Domestic retailers source domestically anta. Tying import policy with FDI which is meaningless. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 29975 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.234.230
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Indiarocks:
pandaga chesko .. http://ibnlive.in.com/news/we-have-not-done-a-uturn-on-fdi-i ssue-jaitley/207046-37-64.html Give me blood, I will give you freedom - Netaji |
   
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Post Number: 8304 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
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Kamal:nenu U turn ani oppukunte reason cheppali .. it is not .. i dont have to ..
LOL language venakala dakkuntunnava. U turn kaadu, why 26 went to 0 in 5yrs?  What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 29974 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.234.230
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Indiarocks: U turn ki reason inka cheppaledu, lekapothe teliyada.
nenu U turn ani oppukunte reason cheppali .. it is not .. i dont have to .. Indiarocks:exactly idey chesi bankrupt stage ki teesukocharu 90's lo.
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Post Number: 8303 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
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Kamal:respect your view .. but as a govt .. it should follow majority of Indians view ..
exactly idey chesi bankrupt stage ki teesukocharu 90's lo. U turn ki reason inka cheppaledu, lekapothe teliyada. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 29973 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.234.230
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Indiarocks:Aina Big Bazar is a retail chain. He will certainly oppose competition. Vaade cheppali neethulu ee issue lo?
LOL .. just to update you .. Big Bazaar is pro-FDI .. it will get better access to funds from outside .. Film_fan: it only looks like.....some economies escaped....bloodbath.....repurcusions are long term....in terms of international trade.... my view...
respect your view .. but as a govt .. it should follow majority of Indians view .. Give me blood, I will give you freedom - Netaji |
   
Film_fan
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returns file cheste .. profits teesukupovacha? too much of a flaw kada argument lo .. --- vaccha koodadha....argument kaadhu.... you are saying it is a one way....robbery and we are selling ourselves..... in my view....i dont think so...... We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit. -- Aristotle
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Kamal
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Post Number: 29972 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.234.230
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Film_fan:all MNC need to file their returns in the operatiing country kadha.....ika.....dochuku povatam yemundhi......
returns file cheste .. profits teesukupovacha? too much of a flaw kada argument lo .. try to read and understand how .. US corrected a flaw in its corporate tax structure that was allowing Microsoft to get away by not paying taxes to US and instead paying lower taxes to Ireland .. alage there needs to be a protection from this economic colonialism Bottomline is .. protect your countries interests .. thats what is paramount .. Give me blood, I will give you freedom - Netaji |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 8301 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
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Kamal:never a U-turn .. in the first place .. BJP said it is supporting only 26% FDI in retail .. not 51% (which means the controls are in affect transferred to the foreign investor) .. secondly .. there is so much turmoil and bloodbath in the global markets for the last 3 years .. the more you are attached to economy outside .. the more you are sucked into the muck .. better stay away like how banks survived during 2008 global recession due to banking! there is wisdom in not following a failed policy ..
Banking, global recession ani relation leni matalu vadhu. Give me the exact reason why 26% went to 0%. Danni U turn ane antaru. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Film_fan
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secondly .. there is so much turmoil and bloodbath in the global markets for the last 3 years .. the more you are attached to economy outside .. the more you are sucked into the muck .. better stay away like how banks survived during 2008 global recession due to banking! there is wisdom in not following a failed policy .. --- detatchment works only so far......you cannot detach and survive long term.....In this small world....everyone needs everyone..... it only looks like.....some economies escaped....bloodbath.....repurcusions are long term....in terms of international trade.... my view... We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit. -- Aristotle
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Indiarocks
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Post Number: 8299 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
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Kamal:certainly Big Bazaar is not doing charity .. but their profits (mostly) are being invested back in the country .. but Walmart .. at the end of the year takes the moolah to their HQ .. adi difference ..
Then ban sony, LG, coke, toyota, honda, chevy. They are also foreign companies. Take India back to the pre-90's economy. Govt retail chain infra provide cheyala? Reliance ki emanna thakkuva resources, big bazar vadiki thakkuva? Vaadi valana entha mandi small retailers bankrupt ayyaru lekka cheppi appudu neethulu vallinchachu. Aina Big Bazar is a retail chain. He will certainly oppose competition. Vaade cheppali neethulu ee issue lo? What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 29970 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.234.230
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 01:13 pm: |
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Indiarocks:Btw, 2004 - 2009 world economy, indian economy lo em changes vachayi that made BJP take a U turn on FDI?
never a U-turn .. in the first place .. BJP said it is supporting only 26% FDI in retail .. not 51% (which means the controls are in affect transferred to the foreign investor) .. secondly .. there is so much turmoil and bloodbath in the global markets for the last 3 years .. the more you are attached to economy outside .. the more you are sucked into the muck .. better stay away like how banks survived during 2008 global recession due to banking! there is wisdom in not following a failed policy .. Give me blood, I will give you freedom - Netaji |
   
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gola ni D , america la joblu kavale americaa markets vadhu che hypocrites |
   
Film_fan
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certainly Big Bazaar is not doing charity .. but their profits (mostly) are being invested back in the country .. but Walmart .. at the end of the year takes the moolah to their HQ .. adi difference .. --- all MNC need to file their returns in the operatiing country kadha.....ika.....dochuku povatam yemundhi...... you are saying if Walmart..is Hindmart from India......then ok..... i dont understand that all big guys who earn money here...invest back here..... We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit. -- Aristotle
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Kamal
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Post Number: 29968 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.234.230
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Indiarocks:Babu konchem think cheyi, Big Bazar vaadu emanna charity chestunnada, vaadu kooda business ye chesedi. You only say that there are 53 cities with more than 10lk population, big bazar is in 80 cities in India FYI.
certainly Big Bazaar is not doing charity .. but their profits (mostly) are being invested back in the country .. but Walmart .. at the end of the year takes the moolah to their HQ .. adi difference .. See .. there is a need for supply chain efficiency anedi .. everybody agrees to .. but why dont we (Indian govt) make efforts to internally strengthen the retail chains .. if we strongly believe that organized retailing results in containing supply/production losses .. what are the actions of the govt to that affect? Did it try to augment the existing infrastructure? to what level? then without doing anything credible from its side to address the issues .. why is it hopping in to bring in FDI into the country, that too to address a structural issue with SCM?? If the present Indian govt is a true representative of Gandhi, who they swear by as Mahatma, then it should certainly understand the concept of Swadeshi and implement it and not let foreign businesses take advantage of traditional Indian business frailties.. Give me blood, I will give you freedom - Netaji |
   
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Kamal:
Btw, 2004 - 2009 world economy, indian economy lo em changes vachayi that made BJP take a U turn on FDI? What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 8296 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
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Kamal:alli ade matladataaventi .. there are several problems when dealing with people with deep pockets of money .. they make sure .. with their cash payments .. there is exclusivity in supply from manufacturer .. dictate market price and end up monopolizing the markets and the choices the consumer has .. neekosame .. kinda Saravana Stores chain owner interview article post chesindi ..
Babu konchem think cheyi, Big Bazar vaadu emanna charity chestunnada, vaadu kooda business ye chesedi. You only say that there are 53 cities with more than 10lk population, big bazar is in 80 cities in India FYI. Aa article lo farmers gurinchi motham BS. India lo farmers nundi Govt purchase chestundi, so monopoly ki chance ye ledu. Imports are a big concern, but that has nothing to do with FDI. It has to do with our import/export policy which needs a fix. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 29967 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.234.230
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Indiarocks:FDI allow chesindi only above 10lk population unna cities lo, rural economy anta..LOL....
there are 53 cities in India .. where population is more than 10 lakh .. for example .. consider Hyd .. from BHEL to Alwal/Medchal to Hayathnagar to Ibrahimpatnam to Nadergul to Shamshabad to Kompally .. everything comes under Hyderabad .. alage .. Vizag/Vijayawada/Tirupati kuda kalipi cheppu .. entha "rural" market ni rural economy ni platter lo istunnamo ardam avutundi .. edo neeke anni telisinattu deniki KIKI .. LOL vaadestaav? Indiarocks:If foreign retailers can import chinese goods, Indian retailers also can do the same. THe problem then is the import policy with China, not FDI.
malli ade matladataaventi .. there are several problems when dealing with people with deep pockets of money .. they make sure .. with their cash payments .. there is exclusivity in supply from manufacturer .. dictate market price and end up monopolizing the markets and the choices the consumer has .. neekosame .. kinda Saravana Stores chain owner interview article post chesindi .. Give me blood, I will give you freedom - Netaji |
   
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Kamal:inni enduku .. mana AP govt position enti FDI meeda? Rosayya emantunnadu? Vysyas ni represent chesinattu Vijayawada lo pedda sabhalu pettadu .. assembly mundu ee roju ki kuda flexis unnayi .. whats up with him? small/medium farming communities .. kapulu emantunnaru? vallaki FDI kaavala? and village economy lo veella incomes meeda depend ayye enno castes like yadavs, gouds, SCs, STs emantunnaru?
FDI allow chesindi only above 10lk population unna cities lo, rural economy anta..LOL.... If foreign retailers can import chinese goods, Indian retailers also can do the same. THe problem then is the import policy with China, not FDI. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 29961 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.234.230
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'We will all be slaves to MNCs,' says Saravana Stores founder
quote:Saravana Stores is the biggest family-owned retailer in India. The retail major is into utensils, clothes, fast moving consumer goods (FMCG), gold, and home provisions. Its tag line is 'the cheapest prices in town' and it has managed to maintain this since 1970 when the family started with a single stainless steel shop on Ranganathan Street, T Nagar, in Chennai. Now Saravana Stores has 61 outlets. Kishore Biyani, founder of the Future Group that manages Big Bazaar, has said in his autobiography that his inspiration to start his retail venture was Saravana Stores. S Rajarathinam is the founder-owner of this retailing giant. We asked him about his opinion on the government's decision to allow 51 per cent foreign direct investment in India's multi-brand retail trade and 100 per cent FDI in single-brand retail trade. This is what he had to say: "It is the East India Company all over again. What the government is doing in the name of liberalisation is not good for the country. It is bad for local businessmen and also for the people. "Multinational companies have deep pockets. They can sell at a loss till other local businesses shut down and then they will increase prices and make a killing. Whatever we earn we plough back into the country. "We buy land or goods; we keep them here. MNCs will be taking our money out of the country once they start making profits. They always employ devious means." "Have you seen their rice grains? They are perfect and they give a huge return. But the only problem is their seeds cannot be used a second time. "Our farmers are used to keeping a part of their produce -- the best part -- as seed for the next crop. But you cannot do that now. You have to go to them for every season. They control the price of their seed. We are their mercy. "In retailing, they will enter the food chain and create a monopoly. They will go to the farmer and offer a higher rate than the wholesalers now. They will not allow rice millers to buy paddy as they will offer higher rates. "Once they have bought the entire paddy in the market they can sell the rice at any price. There will be no one to challenge them as no one else will have the rice." "We sell the cheapest goods in town simply by buying at a lower price than others. We buy in bulk and we buy with hard cash. So we get a better bargain than a small shop-owner. "But the multinationals have more cash than us. They will buy in bigger bulk than us and therefore at lower prices. They can under-sell us for years till we are forced to close down. "Then they will hire our workers and we will all be slaves to them. "If our people bought Indian goods only -- as in the time of the Swadeshi movement -- then we can survive. But you know the truth. Anything that is made in the West is considered better than what is produced here. The 'finish' of their products is better than ours, so people assume that the products themselves are better." "It's actually a colonial mentality that we consider them better than us. Most of the goods they will sell will be made in China. The Chinese are flooding our markets with cheap goods even now. Currently, these goods are smuggled across the border: henceforth, they will enter legally. "European and American MNCs get most of their low-end good manufactured in China. "Now for any product there is a manufacturer, a wholesaler and then the retailer. The MNCs will destroy this chain. They go straight to the manufacturer and place huge orders with huge advances. The money that they give in advance lets them dictate the price at which they will buy. "The wholesaler and the retailer who are now doing business will be out of business and out of work. We will all end up working for them."
http://www.rediff.com/business/slide-show/slide-show-1-we-wi ll-all-be-slaves-to-mncs-says-saravana-stores-founder/201111 29.htm you may, for whatever reasons, brush off genuine concerns of people as spins/brownies and cheap politics .. but on the ground .. there is huge opposition among Indians .. (atleast the poor and 90% of the middle classes) Give me blood, I will give you freedom - Netaji |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 29959 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.234.230
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Film_fan: waht did it prove....maree long shot laa ledhu.....
nope .. it is all accounted history .. open for everyone .. Give me blood, I will give you freedom - Netaji |
   
Film_fan
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oh yeah .. and countries like USA proved me wrong! --- waht did it prove....maree long shot laa ledhu..... We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit. -- Aristotle
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Kamal
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Post Number: 29958 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.234.230
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Film_fan: hard to happen for consumer daily goods......price maintain chayakapothey...the bigger they are...the bigger they fall....... its not like they are driectly put their hands into our pockets and take money away......its business ...consumer the god....
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Film_fan
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They first sell at low prices and after eliminating the competition, they create their own monopoly following which they increase prices." -- hard to happen for consumer daily goods......price maintain chayakapothey...the bigger they are...the bigger they fall....... its not like they are driectly put their hands into our pockets and take money away......its business ...consumer the god.... We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit. -- Aristotle
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National party ga bjp is a sinking ship anukontunna |
   
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Post Number: 9371 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 64.253.166.252
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Exept Hindutava..BJP ki congress ki pedha theda ledhu (ideologically) (I am saying thats not a bad thing) BJP struggled in its opinion about Nuclear agreement also, Advani mundu oka mata..tharvatha oka mata..yashwath sinha, jaitley..okkakkadu okko mata chepparu nuclear deal appudu..same thing is happening now..2004 ..2011 ani enni kaburlanna cheppukovochu..Being the major opposition party, they cannot agree with congress politically..so edo sannayi nokkulu nokkuthuntaru atleast left parties are consistant in their opinion..not bjp |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 29954 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.234.230
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Nippu: tappa.
tappu ledu .. kaani reason cheppi appudu change chesukovachu .. FDI anedi economy ki sambandinchindi .. daily maarutundi .. static ga undadu .. so what is correct today might prove to be wrong tomorrow .. T issue vishayam lo .. administrative decision .. changes teesukovalsina paristhithulu ivi ani cheppi change cheyyochu stance .. anything based on reason Give me blood, I will give you freedom - Netaji |
   
Nippu
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kamal bhai, bjp FDI lo policy change chesukovachu timely gha. same alaghe telangana vishyam lo kuda anni parties policies changing chesukunte tappa. 2004 lo annaru , 2009 lo annaru ani bjp kurrollu enduku egurutharu. |
   
Methhanithodugu
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Kamal:They first sell at low prices and after eliminating the competition, they create their own monopoly following which they increase prices."
i dont hope this happens i am an optimist |
   
Kamal
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Methhanithodugu:Chinna raithul have to quit vevasaayam and join Walmart like makkus..
manam/govt evaram saami idi cheppadaniki? they have a freewill .. they will decide what is good for them .. anthe kaani .. this i-know-all-i-decide-all is wrong .. Methhanithodugu:good bad anni untai kaaani if ganji gives better quality @ price why will i go to walmart ???
Kamal: Arun Jaitley said, "International retail does not create additional markets, it merely displaces existing markets. Foreign players with deep pockets do this through predatory pricing. They first sell at low prices and after eliminating the competition, they create their own monopoly following which they increase prices."
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Hero Username: Methhanithodugu
Post Number: 13547 Registered: 12-2008 Posted From: 59.93.49.224
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 08:18 am: |
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Kamal:
good bad anni untai kaaani if ganji gives better quality @ price why will i go to walmart ??? Chinna raithul have to quit vevasaayam and join Walmart like makkus.. basically Foriegn Lobbies paid Sonia G .. Bill will be passed no matter what .. last 1 yr they deliberately made inflation go beynd the growth limits ...now they say go to walmart inflation will be controlled NA ... |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 29949 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.234.230
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 08:11 am: |
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Methhanithodugu:China ne allow sesindi Walmart vassi Mana Chinna CHinna Retails ni emi seyya levu ...
Chinki gaadiki emi nastam .. Walmart vadu China lo ammevi .. made in China products ee .. China ki atleast aa bokka ledu! LOL nenu adigindi .. malakpet ganj/begum bazar/ramkoti/musheerabad etc lo koorchune seth la sangati .. atlage .. 2-5 acres lo vari, jonna, kandi, pesara lantivi pandinche raitula gurinchi .. if possible .. to the point answer cheyyi .. Give me blood, I will give you freedom - Netaji |
   
Methhanithodugu
Hero Username: Methhanithodugu
Post Number: 13546 Registered: 12-2008 Posted From: 59.93.49.224
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Kamal:inni enduku .. mana AP govt position enti FDI meeda? Rosayya emantunnadu? Vysyas ni represent chesinattu Vijayawada lo pedda sabhalu pettadu .. assembly mundu ee roju ki kuda flexis unnayi .. whats up with him? small/medium farming communities .. kapulu emantunnaru? vallaki FDI kaavala? and village economy lo veella incomes meeda depend ayye enno castes like yadavs, gouds, SCs, STs emantunnaru?
China ne allow sesindi Walmart vassi Mana Chinna CHinna Retails ni emi seyya levu ... let them come but put stringent laws on harmfull products of china or toxic dumping + make Poor Vysas / banias ( if its ok) as employees ... Hyderabad is already seen METRO ... http://www.metro.co.in/ a german based ...
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Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 29948 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.234.230
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 08:02 am: |
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Methhanithodugu:bjop ni tittadam ante ok fashion oka passion aindi no reasoning...
inni enduku .. mana AP govt position enti FDI meeda? Rosayya emantunnadu? Vysyas ni represent chesinattu Vijayawada lo pedda sabhalu pettadu .. assembly mundu ee roju ki kuda flexis unnayi .. whats up with him? small/medium farming communities .. kapulu emantunnaru? vallaki FDI kaavala? and village economy lo veella incomes meeda depend ayye enno castes like yadavs, gouds, SCs, STs emantunnaru? Pulpfiction:Undavalli kummudu
evarni? Give me blood, I will give you freedom - Netaji |
   
Morpheus
Comedian Username: Morpheus
Post Number: 1593 Registered: 12-2010 Posted From: 199.204.165.130
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 07:58 am: |
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Methhanithodugu:bjop ni tittadam ante ok fashion oka passion aindi no reasoning...
BJP ni titadaniki oka passon kooda kavalaa desam lo peddha Hippocrates ee BJP vallu BJP and Talib are on PAr |
   
Pulpfiction
Hero Username: Pulpfiction
Post Number: 18271 Registered: 02-2009 Posted From: 117.99.108.175
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 07:52 am: |
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Undavalli kummudu
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Methhanithodugu
Hero Username: Methhanithodugu
Post Number: 13545 Registered: 12-2008 Posted From: 59.93.49.224
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Kamal:almost there .. just a correction .. local donga .. non local bandipotu!
bjop ni tittadam ante ok fashion oka passion aindi no reasoning...
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Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 29947 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.234.230
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 07:46 am: |
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Film_fan:local bandipotu is better than non-local donga?
almost there .. just a correction .. local donga .. non local bandipotu! asalu inni enduku .. govt deggara kullipotunna food grains gurinchi govt emi chesindi? before it allows FDI in retail .. the minimum it could do is make sure 43% of grain procured by govt does not get rotten .. that is enough to show the intentions of the govt .. Give me blood, I will give you freedom - Netaji |
   
Film_fan
Hero Username: Film_fan
Post Number: 19281 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 78.146.68.236
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 07:39 am: |
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meaning .. we do not have billions of $s profits leaving Indian shores ! -- what does this mean..... local bandipotu is better than non-local donga? i see no difference.....as soon Relainace thought of even competing for hair saloons......it is evident that.....MNC will tap in where there is an oppurtunity......if it improves eficiency and competition...then it should be ok.... rest....i'm no expert We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit. -- Aristotle
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Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 29946 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.234.230
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 07:32 am: |
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Film_fan:big malls are there in India already.....providing this atmosphere......only difference is it has local names to it......or Indian billionares behind them.....
meaning .. we do not have billions of $s profits leaving Indian shores ! http://centreright.in/2011/11/fdi-in-retail-destroying-livel ihoods/#.TtTPWD0k61c one more .. this time from Vjavasi of CCDB .. Give me blood, I will give you freedom - Netaji |
   
Film_fan
Hero Username: Film_fan
Post Number: 19280 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 78.146.68.236
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 07:25 am: |
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other than the look and feel of shopping in a Walmart .. --- leaving what we indivually follow or respect in terms of write ups..... look and feel of shopping in walmart.....is nothing new to India...... big malls are there in India already.....providing this atmosphere......only difference is it has local names to it......or Indian billionares behind them..... it doesnt matter its Walmart or MartWall......If prices are competitive....people will rush...... We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit. -- Aristotle
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Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 29945 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.234.230
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 07:21 am: |
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Film_fan: articles on this are written left right and centre over this issue........we can take which ever suits our beleif. to start reading an article with a view that whatever said against congres is true......is no balance either..... i am watching TV debates on this......
It is written by S. Gurumurthy .. one of the most renowned chartered accountants and economists in India !! He used the information provided by the Planning commission of India and a Parliamentary Standing Committee report .. both authored in 2005-2007 period .. under the present govt itself .. so I am not sure which TV debates are discussing these finer points that finally matter .. other than the look and feel of shopping in a Walmart .. Give me blood, I will give you freedom - Netaji |
   
Film_fan
Hero Username: Film_fan
Post Number: 19279 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 78.146.68.236
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 07:10 am: |
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exactly my point .. just because small farmers and retailers dont vote for congress .. while big ticket corporates sponsor congress treasuries .. doesnt exactly give the govt any unilateral right to destroy millions of lives across the country .. plz read the article i gave .. and then tell me .. who the bloody hell is scoring cheap political points . --- i see a flaw in this.... votebank politics would stop FDI and give the colouring that we are saving farmers...... you are telling it the other way around..... articles on this are written left right and centre over this issue........we can take which ever suits our beleif. to start reading an article with a view that whatever said against congres is true......is no balance either..... i am watching TV debates on this...... We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit. -- Aristotle
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Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 29944 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.230.77
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 07:00 am: |
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Film_fan: scoring brownie points politically.....is no use to the country either....
exactly my point .. just because small farmers and retailers dont vote for congress .. while big ticket corporates sponsor congress treasuries .. doesnt exactly give the govt any unilateral right to destroy millions of lives across the country .. plz read the article i gave .. and then tell me .. who the bloody hell is scoring cheap political points .. Give me blood, I will give you freedom - Netaji |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 29943 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.230.77
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 06:56 am: |
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Selling India's retail wholesale
quote:Finally, FDI in retail has arrived. The collapse of the Rupee by one-fifth in just weeks, dwindling forex inflows and net FII outflows have forced a desperate government to sell India's retail trade wholesale. Corporate and multinational lobbying to induct FDI in retail, branding it as "big ticket reform", has been intense in the last few years. The lobbies have won. India has lost. The decision betrays a metropolitan bias; and exposes lack of understanding of India's agricultural and rural economy. That it will endlessly damage the huge 1.2 million strong community-run retail business in India is undisputed. But the less known truth is that it will destroy food security in rural India. How? Read on.
http://expressbuzz.com/finance/business/Selling-India%E2%80% 99s-retail-wholesale/337135.html hate to neo-liberals and Macaulayites preaching pseudo-ideals without a complete understanding of the impending loss to rural India .. Give me blood, I will give you freedom - Netaji |
   
Film_fan
Hero Username: Film_fan
Post Number: 19277 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 78.146.68.236
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 06:56 am: |
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bounty/profits for retail MNC giants .. --- why this hatred against MNC's? if not for them someone else will that gap...... is Reliance ethically leaving scope for its own country's small sector business..... allow FDI and make adjustments to cover...buy from local producers more arrangements (which they have to anyway).....and economy will prosper kadha..... I'm against taking food away from our farmers or low sector income groups.....but at the same time......why cant it be that it beneifts both.....MNC and normal people...... congress of whoever has taken this step is irrelevant in my view.....much broader view of how this can be turned into an advantage should be oppositions goal in my view.....both almost agree that...some FDI is good.....come to an conensus on that.... scoring brownie points politically.....is no use to the country either.... We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit. -- Aristotle
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Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 29942 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.230.77
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 06:40 am: |
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Film_fan:inefficiency ni.....mask cheyataniki.......FDI vaddu anakoodadhu.....ani naa opinion......
FDI vaddu anataniki inefficiency kaaranam asalu kaadu .. bcos .. meeru antunna inefficiency is due to infrastructure deficiency in the country .. and infra lo basic thing is to create roads .. mari ee UPA govt lo kanisam previous NDA govt ni match ayyara .. new roads lo? if not why??? mana internal efficiency ni optimize chesukokunda .. FDI .. FDI ani anatam foolishness ki hallmark .. as end of the day .. the result of this unwanted FDI is .. bounty/profits for retail MNC giants .. Give me blood, I will give you freedom - Netaji |
   
Film_fan
Hero Username: Film_fan
Post Number: 19276 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 78.146.68.236
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 05:42 am: |
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just a spin to irk the govt that's all....... protect the indian retail interest is what i beleive in as well.....but you cannot stop people flocking for competetive prices....... inefficiency ni.....mask cheyataniki.......FDI vaddu anakoodadhu.....ani naa opinion...... competiton may push our guys to be innovative too.......how many consumer goods retailers are facing huge competetion from organic product markets which are local and small.....i think more.... We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit. -- Aristotle
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Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 29941 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.230.77
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 05:10 am: |
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New Delhi, November 28: The Bharatiya Janata Party on Thursday opposed to the Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) being introduced in the Retail sector maintaining that the move would result in job losses. The BJP in its joint statement issued by two senior leaders said it would strongly oppose FDI in retail, allowing 51 per cent FDI in multi-brand retail and 100 per cent FDI in single-brand, saying that it would lead to the creation of monopolies by international retail players such as Walmart. The two Leaders of the Opposition, Smt. Sushma Swaraj, Leader of Opposition (Lok Sabha) and Shri Arun Jaitley, Leader of Opposition (Rajya Sabha) issued a joint statement saying that any such decision would not only hurt domestic players but also small shopkeepers in hundreds of small towns and cities. Arun Jaitley said, "International retail does not create additional markets, it merely displaces existing markets. Foreign players with deep pockets do this through predatory pricing. They first sell at low prices and after eliminating the competition, they create their own monopoly following which they increase prices." http://en.newsbharati.com//Encyc/2011/11/28/BJP--FDI-in-reta il-will-result-in-job-losses-and-will-create-monopoly.aspx?N B=&lang=1&m1=&m2=&p1=&p2=&p3=&p4=&NewsMode=int Give me blood, I will give you freedom - Netaji |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 29938 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 117.195.230.77
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 04:08 am: |
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LOL .. 2004 ki 2011 ki madhya lo .. global economy changed a whole lot .. Western economies collapse ayyi sanka naakutunnayi .. there should be periodical review of policies whether to allow FDI into the retail or not .. anthe tappa .. 2004 lo chepparu kada .. 2011 lo kuda daanike stick avvandi anatam .. Moorkhatvam (with a capital M) Indian retail sector ni safe guard chesi .. FDI open cheyyali .. not to make India a chinese dumping ground of USA .. and profits to Walmart, Tesco .. Ninna Times Now lo Arun Jaitley / CNN-IBN lo Yashwant Sinha chaala cool ga explain chesaru .. veelaithe avi chusi .. why FDI should not be allowed "now" anedi ardam chesukodaniki try cheyyandi .. anthe tappa .. as usual ga .. Congress-2 laa behave cheste nastapoyedi Indians! Give me blood, I will give you freedom - Netaji |
   
Vjawarrior
Comedian Username: Vjawarrior
Post Number: 1208 Registered: 02-2011 Posted From: 69.139.15.161
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 01:07 am: |
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I think BJP is okay for 26%...Thts where UPA will finally go for.... BJP full gaa emi oppose cheyyatledu gaa |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8292 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 184.155.150.80
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 01:05 am: |
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BJP promised 26% FDI in retailing in their 2004 election manifesto. Ippudu FDI will hurt traders, and farmers anta. Text from manifesto "4) Organized retail trade on the international pattern will be promoted as a new engine of growth for trade and employment through appropriate legal and fiscal measures. 26% FDI in retailing will be allowed. Sourcing of Indian products by foreign retail chains will be encouraged." http://www.bjp.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article &id=138%3A14th-lok-sabha-apr-may-2004&catid=50%3Aelection-ma nifestos&Itemid=446
 What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |