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Entikaburlu
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Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 08:01 pm:   Insert Quote Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No need to move anything. He can maintain the 401K till he reaches 65. Nobdy forces them to close the 401K.

If you want to do your own managing of the funds, you may want to create a "SEP IRA" or a "Self Directed IRA" and move the funds into that, and you can manage it yourself. The advantage is, you can pick your own stocks rather than the limited MFs the 401 K trustee allows.

There is no penalty to move. But you would be selling and buying. It will take a week to buy after you sell, so based on the market movement, you may lose some if the market went up steeply after you sold.
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Roth lo we can with draw principal after 5 years without any penalties. but earning in roth, you should be withdrawing only after 591/2 with out any penalities and tax free

before 59 1/2 years earnings are taxed and penality

so strategy is a person should withdraw only amount say 20k so that all the extra tax will be offset in standard deduction. so he will paying no tax.
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>>> IRA->Roth-IRA

Actually, what I stated in the previous post is wrong. If you move your money from 401(k) to Roth, you only pay taxes as Roth is a post tax vehicle. Withdrawl penalties come into picture depending on when you withdraw money from your Roth IRA.

Moving money from 401(k)/Trad. IRA to Roth makes sense ONLY if you anticipate higher taxes when you were planning to withdraw money in the future as withdrawing against Roth is tax free (there will still be early withdrawl penalties even for Roth IRA).
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Crazy:

First convert 401K into traditional IRA

Then after your friend moved to India, he can convert full or part of IRA money into Roth IRA depending on the income for year. since that amount is treated as income he will be paying uncle sam taxes on the amount he converts.

and after 5 years he can withdraw the original amount with out any penalties.


plan baagundhi, possible aa ala cheyyatam...
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First convert 401K into traditional IRA

Then after your friend moved to India, he can convert full or part of IRA money into Roth IRA depending on the income for year. since that amount is treated as income he will be paying uncle sam taxes on the amount he converts.

and after 5 years he can withdraw the original amount with out any penalties.
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basic ga 401k to ira move chesaka..

say u r leaving next year for good, leave in jan end..u get paid for jan..and ur income will be very less and ur tax will be low then..ala maska veyyach
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Idle_yzag:

401k->IRA->Roth-IRA






http://www.bankrate.com/finance/money-guides/take-tax-contro l-of-your-ira-conversion-1.aspx

http://christianpf.com/convert-traditional-ira-to-roth-ira-2 010/
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Idle_yzag:

IRA Roth loki vesthe penality vundadhu and then if you take from Roth just tax ani


IRA Roth loki move chesthe you ahve to pay tax. Roth is after tax -> but any gains you make are tax free...

regular IRA ayyithe penatly vuntadhi..

if you take the money out, you have to pay penatly... tax avoid cheyyali ante, India lo vuntunte kanuka and no income ayyithe, if you withdraw a certain amount every year you don't have to pay tax.
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Dreamcatcher:

401(k) ni Roth IRA loki ela estaav annai?


thru IRA

401k->IRA->Roth-IRA

this is what scallion said on that day
RahulGandhi/JP/Chiru
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401k nunchi roth enti? tranditional ira ki cheyyali kada..
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Dreamcatcher:

401(k) ni Roth IRA loki ela estaav annai? 401(k) is a pre-tax retirement vehicle where as Roth IRA is a post-tax retirement vehicle. When you move your 401(k) to Roth IRA, you are basically withdrawing money from your 401(k) and putting it in a Roth IRA. So, the initial step of withdrawing from 401(k) itself will trigger penalty and tax NOW before you put the money into a Roth IRA. Check with your CPA.




you are right
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Idle_yzag:

ledhu brother scallion annai edo process cheppadu, IRA Roth loki vesthe penality vundadhu and then if you take from Roth just tax ani




you can call your 401k company and ask them

i know if you want to invest in a business you can withdraw without penalty or tax

contact gudiantfinancial for more info
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>>>IRA Roth loki vesthe penality vundadhu

401(k) ni Roth IRA loki ela estaav annai? 401(k) is a pre-tax retirement vehicle where as Roth IRA is a post-tax retirement vehicle. When you move your 401(k) to Roth IRA, you are basically withdrawing money from your 401(k) and putting it in a Roth IRA. So, the initial step of withdrawing from 401(k) itself will trigger penalty and tax NOW before you put the money into a Roth IRA. Check with your CPA.
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Gandhiguevara:


vuncle, nen appudu aa point pattukoni mana DB oka top finacial company lo pani chesthunna CFA lani adgithe emi seppaledhu, contact CPA ani annadu, nen lite theskunna

ayan nuv Scal ki direct ga email kottu, response sithadu
RahulGandhi/JP/Chiru
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Idle_yzag:


ledhu brother scallion annai edo process cheppad


vuncle...Gaali Jana skills uze chesi aa thread dig seyyavaa plz
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True_indian:

you can move to IRA and there wont be any penalty but if you withdraw then you pay penalty, moving from 401k to IRA doesnt change anything
you wont get any 1099 from fidelity




ledhu brother scallion annai edo process cheppadu, IRA Roth loki vesthe penality vundadhu and then if you take from Roth just tax ani
RahulGandhi/JP/Chiru
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>>>withdraw certain amount with out penalty

I think this is not true, there will always be penalty if you do early withdrawls (with exceptions like first home purchase, etc). Check with your CAP/Tax Consultants.
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lets say if he move out of the country in this year then he may not be able to with draw from 401k in this year,

he can show next year as no job no income and withdraw certain amount with out penalty but tax..

check with CPA..
cherapakura chedevu.
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Gandhiguevara:



you can move to IRA and there wont be any penalty but if you withdraw then you pay penalty, moving from 401k to IRA doesnt change anything
you wont get any 1099 from fidelity
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I140:

nidena question


kochen evaridaithe endi answer cheyyi...maa vaadi mail as it is gaa post chesaa
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babai.. i have annavu.. nidena question
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Gandhiguevara
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My freind's kochen

If I want to move India in next 3 yrs what is the procedure to Move 401k to IRA (To avoid tax & penalty fees)

What type of IRA account needs to be opened? Right now I have 401 K account with Fidelity

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