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Entikaburlu
Side Hero Username: Entikaburlu
Post Number: 2653 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 08:01 pm: |
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No need to move anything. He can maintain the 401K till he reaches 65. Nobdy forces them to close the 401K. If you want to do your own managing of the funds, you may want to create a "SEP IRA" or a "Self Directed IRA" and move the funds into that, and you can manage it yourself. The advantage is, you can pick your own stocks rather than the limited MFs the 401 K trustee allows. There is no penalty to move. But you would be selling and buying. It will take a week to buy after you sell, so based on the market movement, you may lose some if the market went up steeply after you sold. |
   
Crazy
Junior Artist Username: Crazy
Post Number: 21 Registered: 02-2011 Posted From: 198.241.217.15
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 03:10 pm: |
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Roth lo we can with draw principal after 5 years without any penalties. but earning in roth, you should be withdrawing only after 591/2 with out any penalities and tax free before 59 1/2 years earnings are taxed and penality so strategy is a person should withdraw only amount say 20k so that all the extra tax will be offset in standard deduction. so he will paying no tax. |
   
Dreamcatcher
Side Hero Username: Dreamcatcher
Post Number: 2258 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 208.86.145.68
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 03:01 pm: |
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>>> IRA->Roth-IRA Actually, what I stated in the previous post is wrong. If you move your money from 401(k) to Roth, you only pay taxes as Roth is a post tax vehicle. Withdrawl penalties come into picture depending on when you withdraw money from your Roth IRA. Moving money from 401(k)/Trad. IRA to Roth makes sense ONLY if you anticipate higher taxes when you were planning to withdraw money in the future as withdrawing against Roth is tax free (there will still be early withdrawl penalties even for Roth IRA). |
   
Dosakaaya
Side Hero Username: Dosakaaya
Post Number: 6595 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 151.191.175.208
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 02:58 pm: |
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Crazy:First convert 401K into traditional IRA Then after your friend moved to India, he can convert full or part of IRA money into Roth IRA depending on the income for year. since that amount is treated as income he will be paying uncle sam taxes on the amount he converts. and after 5 years he can withdraw the original amount with out any penalties.
plan baagundhi, possible aa ala cheyyatam... |
   
Crazy
Junior Artist Username: Crazy
Post Number: 20 Registered: 02-2011 Posted From: 198.241.217.15
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 02:57 pm: |
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First convert 401K into traditional IRA Then after your friend moved to India, he can convert full or part of IRA money into Roth IRA depending on the income for year. since that amount is treated as income he will be paying uncle sam taxes on the amount he converts. and after 5 years he can withdraw the original amount with out any penalties. |
   
Maverick
Legend Username: Maverick
Post Number: 31979 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 204.86.204.207
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 02:57 pm: |
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basic ga 401k to ira move chesaka.. say u r leaving next year for good, leave in jan end..u get paid for jan..and ur income will be very less and ur tax will be low then..ala maska veyyach Who is this DB member? |
   
True_indian
Side Hero Username: True_indian
Post Number: 7985 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 12.129.87.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 02:55 pm: |
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Idle_yzag:401k->IRA->Roth-IRA
http://www.bankrate.com/finance/money-guides/take-tax-contro l-of-your-ira-conversion-1.aspx http://christianpf.com/convert-traditional-ira-to-roth-ira-2 010/ |
   
Dosakaaya
Side Hero Username: Dosakaaya
Post Number: 6594 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 151.191.175.208
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 02:55 pm: |
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Idle_yzag:IRA Roth loki vesthe penality vundadhu and then if you take from Roth just tax ani
IRA Roth loki move chesthe you ahve to pay tax. Roth is after tax -> but any gains you make are tax free... regular IRA ayyithe penatly vuntadhi.. if you take the money out, you have to pay penatly... tax avoid cheyyali ante, India lo vuntunte kanuka and no income ayyithe, if you withdraw a certain amount every year you don't have to pay tax. |
   
Idle_yzag
Legend Username: Idle_yzag
Post Number: 33580 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 198.80.144.187
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 02:52 pm: |
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Dreamcatcher:401(k) ni Roth IRA loki ela estaav annai?
thru IRA 401k->IRA->Roth-IRA this is what scallion said on that day RahulGandhi/JP/Chiru |
   
Maverick
Legend Username: Maverick
Post Number: 31973 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 204.86.204.207
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 02:34 pm: |
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401k nunchi roth enti? tranditional ira ki cheyyali kada.. Who is this DB member? |
   
True_indian
Side Hero Username: True_indian
Post Number: 7984 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 12.129.87.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 02:28 pm: |
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Dreamcatcher:401(k) ni Roth IRA loki ela estaav annai? 401(k) is a pre-tax retirement vehicle where as Roth IRA is a post-tax retirement vehicle. When you move your 401(k) to Roth IRA, you are basically withdrawing money from your 401(k) and putting it in a Roth IRA. So, the initial step of withdrawing from 401(k) itself will trigger penalty and tax NOW before you put the money into a Roth IRA. Check with your CPA.
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True_indian
Side Hero Username: True_indian
Post Number: 7983 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 12.129.87.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 02:28 pm: |
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Idle_yzag:ledhu brother scallion annai edo process cheppadu, IRA Roth loki vesthe penality vundadhu and then if you take from Roth just tax ani
you can call your 401k company and ask them i know if you want to invest in a business you can withdraw without penalty or tax contact gudiantfinancial for more info |
   
Dreamcatcher
Side Hero Username: Dreamcatcher
Post Number: 2254 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 208.86.145.68
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 02:28 pm: |
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>>>IRA Roth loki vesthe penality vundadhu 401(k) ni Roth IRA loki ela estaav annai? 401(k) is a pre-tax retirement vehicle where as Roth IRA is a post-tax retirement vehicle. When you move your 401(k) to Roth IRA, you are basically withdrawing money from your 401(k) and putting it in a Roth IRA. So, the initial step of withdrawing from 401(k) itself will trigger penalty and tax NOW before you put the money into a Roth IRA. Check with your CPA. |
   
Idle_yzag
Legend Username: Idle_yzag
Post Number: 33579 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 198.80.144.187
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 02:25 pm: |
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Gandhiguevara:
vuncle, nen appudu aa point pattukoni mana DB oka top finacial company lo pani chesthunna CFA lani adgithe emi seppaledhu, contact CPA ani annadu, nen lite theskunna ayan nuv Scal ki direct ga email kottu, response sithadu RahulGandhi/JP/Chiru |
   
Gandhiguevara
Megastar Username: Gandhiguevara
Post Number: 21355 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 67.188.27.198
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 02:13 pm: |
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Idle_yzag: ledhu brother scallion annai edo process cheppad
vuncle...Gaali Jana skills uze chesi aa thread dig seyyavaa plz |
   
Idle_yzag
Legend Username: Idle_yzag
Post Number: 33577 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 198.80.144.187
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 02:12 pm: |
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True_indian:you can move to IRA and there wont be any penalty but if you withdraw then you pay penalty, moving from 401k to IRA doesnt change anything you wont get any 1099 from fidelity
ledhu brother scallion annai edo process cheppadu, IRA Roth loki vesthe penality vundadhu and then if you take from Roth just tax ani RahulGandhi/JP/Chiru |
   
Dreamcatcher
Side Hero Username: Dreamcatcher
Post Number: 2253 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 208.86.145.68
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 02:10 pm: |
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>>>withdraw certain amount with out penalty I think this is not true, there will always be penalty if you do early withdrawls (with exceptions like first home purchase, etc). Check with your CAP/Tax Consultants. |
   
Emc2
Side Hero Username: Emc2
Post Number: 4330 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 199.107.16.132
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 02:01 pm: |
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lets say if he move out of the country in this year then he may not be able to with draw from 401k in this year, he can show next year as no job no income and withdraw certain amount with out penalty but tax.. check with CPA.. cherapakura chedevu.
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True_indian
Side Hero Username: True_indian
Post Number: 7982 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 12.129.87.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 01:56 pm: |
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Gandhiguevara:
you can move to IRA and there wont be any penalty but if you withdraw then you pay penalty, moving from 401k to IRA doesnt change anything you wont get any 1099 from fidelity |
   
Gandhiguevara
Megastar Username: Gandhiguevara
Post Number: 21348 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 67.188.27.198
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 01:47 pm: |
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I140: nidena question
kochen evaridaithe endi answer cheyyi...maa vaadi mail as it is gaa post chesaa |
   
I140
Junior Artist Username: I140
Post Number: 541 Registered: 10-2010 Posted From: 170.63.96.108
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 01:45 pm: |
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babai.. i have annavu.. nidena question |
   
Gandhiguevara
Megastar Username: Gandhiguevara
Post Number: 21347 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 67.188.27.198
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 01:44 pm: |
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My freind's kochen If I want to move India in next 3 yrs what is the procedure to Move 401k to IRA (To avoid tax & penalty fees) What type of IRA account needs to be opened? Right now I have 401 K account with Fidelity |