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     Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 4858 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
this was a real story that happened in 1841 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Brown_(ship) When some of the passengers finally reached their destination of Philadelphia, they filed a complaint with the District Attorney. Holmes was the only crewman to be found in the city, so he was the only one charged. He was accused of murdering Frank Askin. A grand jury refused to indict him on that charge, so it was reduced to manslaughter. In the case of United States v. Holmes, the defendant was found guilty and sentenced to six months in jail and a $20 fine.[2] None of the other crewmen were ever brought to trial. The discussion is - does necessity justify manslaughter. i.e. is it ok to kill another person to save your own life when circumstances indicate that he/she will die anyway. Public sentiment is surprisingly mostly with those who took the hard decision to save themselves at the expense of other's lives. In this case the crew were found guilty but were only given small sentence why do you want to bring a dead person into this ? especially when he is not alive - Jagan | ||
| Diviseema Side Hero Username: Diviseema Post Number: 7454 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 115.241.20.53 Rating: N/A |
captians decission is final. if he feel 5 crew members are imprtant to sail the boat safe. he must order other 3 to throw out of boat instead of 3 passangers. if the 3 crew didnt listen . they must be punished under the law. This is the property of ANDHRAITE | ||
| Hero Username: Twitter Post Number: 12785 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 151.191.175.206 Rating: N/A |
situation demanded poinollu poyaru ippudu em cheyalem so if i'm jury i will ask the survivors to take the burden/responsibility of victim families and do some justice to the victim families, ee law points valla vaallakem origedhi emi ledhu. Lets create a corruption-free India | ||
| Chitti_v2 Comedian Username: Chitti_v2 Post Number: 1995 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 160.83.72.209 Rating: N/A |
no......ladies ni thoyyakundaa mogollani thosi maaku comfetetion thagginchaaru kaabatti vadilesthunnaa | ||
| Humpty_dumpty Moderator Username: Humpty_dumpty Post Number: 16712 Registered: 02-2009 Rating: N/A |
captain guilty crew duty bound but lesser degree homicide kindha convict...case closed | ||
| Nanigadu Side Hero Username: Nanigadu Post Number: 7188 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 209.171.52.2 Rating: N/A |
Captain and Crew both are guilty, can't chose between both, Cpatain might have order to do something weird, but Crew does have an option of denying it, but they didn't and 16 innocent lives ended (above all is in't the cruise policy that Passenger's safety comes first) Jo Na Janey Haq Ki taaqat Rabb Na Dewey Usko Himmat. | ||
| Bushu Side Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 3732 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 12.30.230.138 Rating: N/A |
if you do the math, 16 had to go. there's only 9 crew men. even if all of them jump leaving the captain, 7 more from the passengers need to go. then the next question would be which 7 and the captain's taking the risk of running without his crew men. he would then be sued by the dead 7's relatives on why those 7. those are desperate situations and decisions are made in haste. you gotta cut some slack. and a pertinent questyion would be what was the contract that the crew men signed. Zulu said, 'a few good men' - there it was calculated and cold-blooded, here it's spur of the moment. you gotta make a call. | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 4857 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
The boat has a leak and the captain decided that the boat is too heavy and threw 16 passengers into the sea >>> and ordered the crew to throw 16 passengers into the sea ani cheppalsindhi. all 16 died. why do you want to bring a dead person into this ? especially when he is not alive - Jagan | ||
| Desparado Moderator Username: Desparado Post Number: 7123 Registered: 02-2009 Rating: N/A |
I would recomend to punish the guys who built the faulty(with a leak) life boat | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 6115 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
exactly, if the captain was alone on it, he would have ordered some of the crew members along with passengers. More than likely the crew has deliberately worked to save themselves at the expense of passengers. tough situation to be in, but the passengers did not have a chance to dictate who should be saved, while the crew had a say. i would say guilty. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 4856 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
i agree. but the captain alone couldn't have done that. the crew members conspired with the captain and helped him implement the killings. prime accused will be captain. doesn't mean those who helped will not be included in the trial why do you want to bring a dead person into this ? especially when he is not alive - Jagan | ||
| Bushu Side Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 3731 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 12.30.230.138 Rating: N/A |
cold blooded murder veru, ee situation veru. someone definitely had to die. the only question here is why not some of the crew men. its only natural that no body wants to kill himself. now it boils down to who makes the call about whether or not all the crew men are needed for any other eventuality with the boat. and that's the captain's call. | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 4855 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
freezing cold titanic water. no boat = death why do you want to bring a dead person into this ? especially when he is not alive - Jagan | ||
| Yodha Side Hero Username: Yodha Post Number: 2004 Registered: 08-2011 Posted From: 173.199.160.76 Rating: N/A |
nenu tyre etti dobbetha | ||
| Zulu Side Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 8929 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 64.253.166.252 Rating: N/A |
please revise 'A few good men' movie  | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 4854 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
the captain's orders do not override the law. mee boss okadni eseyi ante esesi maa boss cheppaadu ante kudharadhu. why do you want to bring a dead person into this ? especially when he is not alive - Jagan | ||
| Sensexxxxx Comedian Username: Sensexxxxx Post Number: 1725 Registered: 08-2011 Posted From: 199.43.32.85 Rating: N/A |
16 passenegrs ani captain decide cheshe ..crew di thappu lenatte...in that case only captain will be held guilty | ||
| Zulu Side Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 8928 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 64.253.166.252 Rating: N/A |
Guilty for Murder - NO I would remove them from their duties, coz they would have probably voilated some kinda clause saying that 'they will put passengers safety before personal safety'..If thats the case. | ||
| Bushu Side Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 3727 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 12.30.230.138 Rating: N/A |
why would the crew be guilty. they take orders from the captain and he should be the only one held guilty. if he can defend on why he wanted 'all' his crew members in there, even he can go free but that may be a tall order. | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 4853 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
The boat has a leak and the captain decided that the boat is too heavy and threw 16 passengers into the sea. why do you want to bring a dead person into this ? especially when he is not alive - Jagan | ||
| Sensexxxxx Comedian Username: Sensexxxxx Post Number: 1724 Registered: 08-2011 Posted From: 199.43.32.85 Rating: N/A |
yes.....they should be terminated from their duties...and may be some jail term too | ||
| Methhanithodugu Hero Username: Methhanithodugu Post Number: 13114 Registered: 12-2008 Posted From: 59.93.65.196 Rating: N/A |
If you were in the jury would you find the crew guilty ? Andaru Safe inka trial endukahe (tappu sesthe oggey)  | ||
| Risingstar Megastar Username: Risingstar Post Number: 27198 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 159.53.78.147 Rating: N/A |
Yes. munde agreement theesukuntar kadha passengers safety first ani.. | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 4852 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
This is a true story. I want to know what you would do if you were in the jury. A ship is wrecked. Among survivors, 9 crewmen and 32 passengers occupied a lifeboat. The boat has a leak and the captain decided that the boat is too heavy and threw 16 passengers into the sea. He spared women and children. None of the crew members volunteered to die. The boat was later rescued and everyone on board lived. The crew were brought to trial. If you were in the jury would you find the crew guilty ? why do you want to bring a dead person into this ? especially when he is not alive - Jagan |
