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Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 4717 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 08:08 pm: |
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Indiarocks:Deenni ye logic tho choosina mutual consent ane antaru.
auna. mari damils aina compromise ento After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8140 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 08:03 pm: |
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Sanman:IR bro i think both of us have said everything we had to say in this matter. resolution pass kavali annadhi ekkada rule laedhu ani matrame nenu cheppaanu. bombayi cinema climax laga andaru realize oppukovali ani mee korika. oppukokapothe emi cheyali annadhi kuda cheppandi.
adi okkate ekkada cheppavu. Andhra state was formed without the consent of tamils ani ippati varaku vaadinchavu. Asalu Rajaji with the official statement of Madras Govt clarified that if Madras is taken out of the equation, tamils do not have any problem with the bifurcation. psr madras kosam fast chesi chanipoyina kooda Andhras madras meeda compromise ayyaru Deenni ye logic tho choosina mutual consent ane antaru. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 4716 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 07:53 pm: |
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Indiarocks:
IR bro i think both of us have said everything we had to say in this matter. resolution pass kavali annadhi ekkada rule laedhu ani matrame nenu cheppaanu. bombayi cinema climax laga andaru realize oppukovali ani mee korika. oppukokapothe emi cheyali annadhi kuda cheppandi. on a separate note mee intiki oka bandhuvu vachi pokunda intlone tishta vesi nenu ponu inka ante both sides compromise siddantham vartistundha. this is no way related to T issue. i am talking about ur two sides principle After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8139 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 07:46 pm: |
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Sanman: dasari narayana rao laga cheppindhe enni sarlu cheppamantaaru. introduce chesaaru saami pass aindha laedha annadhi inconsequential. andhra case lo pass kaalaedhu ani cheppaanu kadha ignore mode loki poindha adhi. nenu kaneesam naa kundeluki moodu kaallu antunnanemo. meeru pilli ni chupinchi kundelu antunnaaru
ok proofs emi chupinchaka poyina okasari resolution pass avvaledu anukundamu. Mee history akkade aagipoyinda? Rajaji, then head of Madras Govt himself saying that he will agree to Andhra formation given that Madras is taken out of the equation... http://i56.tinypic.com/nytg01.jpg Ippatiki meeru pattukunna kundeluki moode kaallu ante take it easy... What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 4715 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 07:33 pm: |
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Indiarocks:other words state lo consent undi ani express chesaru?
dasari narayana rao laga cheppindhe enni sarlu cheppamantaaru. introduce chesaaru saami pass aindha laedha annadhi inconsequential. andhra case lo pass kaalaedhu ani cheppaanu kadha ignore mode loki poindha adhi. nenu kaneesam naa kundeluki moodu kaallu antunnanemo. meeru pilli ni chupinchi kundelu antunnaaru After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8138 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 07:26 pm: |
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Sanman: actually gaa jarigina history ignore chesi history as per IR logic chaduvukuntanu ippati nundi
ela chaduvukunna manakistam vachinatlu marchestene kastam. sare mari nee prakaram center announce cheste chalu kada mari pichollai jharkand, chattisgarh, uttarakhand ki enduku resolution pass chesaru, or in other words state lo consent undi ani express chesaru? Vallaki teliyada moosukkoorchovali ani...kiki Anyway memu pattina kundeluki moode kallu, maaku evari opinion avasaram ledu ee attitude thone intha varaku vachindi issue. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 4714 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 07:17 pm: |
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Indiarocks:
actually gaa jarigina history ignore chesi history as per IR logic chaduvukuntanu ippati nundi After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8137 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 07:11 pm: |
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Sanman:mee bhayam chusthe muchata vestundhi. adhi TN congress announcement. appudu two balls siddantham laedhu. HC entha chepte antha. ippudu kuda two balls anaedhi congress tdp aadutunna drama. Jagan kuda cm kaavaali ani 150 MLAs sign pettaaru. party HC nundi mandate vachaaka anni musukoni pani chesukovadam laedha. ika point ki vasthe if you see the timeline, that is after the death of potti sriramulu. an year after andhra state announcement was made in center. resolution was introduced and failed in madras assembly in 1952 after potti sriramulu first hunger strike. even then the center went ahead and passed the bill in parliament. the clipping you posted has got nothing to do with formation of andhra state. it is the andhra state bill that dealt with boundaries, transfer of power, sharing of debt etc. that announcement of co operation was made by TN congress party. even after that announcement 200 amendments were made to the bill. adhi soopinchi andhra state formation mutual consent tho aindhi ani coloring istunnava. keep trying.
LOL as expected, Nehru/center asalu Tamils tho ye disc lekundane announce chesesadu, appati varaku asalu oppukunedi ledu annavallu moosukkoorchunnara? Tamilnadu Cong even passed a resolution accepting the "division of madras state" Aalu consent anedi lekundane Kashmir gurinchi kooda center parliament resolution cheste sari, vallu gola cheyakunda moosukkorchuntaru kada?
 What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 4713 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 06:59 pm: |
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also here is how your alai balai everybody consented andhra formation story actually happened The next day all hell broke loose. Government offices were attacked, and trains stopped and defaced. The damage to state property ran into crores of rupees. Several protesters were killed in police firings. On the 16th, Nehru made a statement saying a state of Andhra would come into being, but its boundaries would be decided by an independent Commission After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 4712 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 06:46 pm: |
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Indiarocks: Ippudu malli vithanda vadam cheyandi- Mundu oppukoka poina Nehru statement ivvagane oppeskunnaru Nehru Tamilnadu leaders tho asalu matladakundane statement ichadu.
mee bhayam chusthe muchata vestundhi. adhi TN congress announcement. appudu two balls siddantham laedhu. HC entha chepte antha. ippudu kuda two balls anaedhi congress tdp aadutunna drama. Jagan kuda cm kaavaali ani 150 MLAs sign pettaaru. party HC nundi mandate vachaaka anni musukoni pani chesukovadam laedha. ika point ki vasthe if you see the timeline, that is after the death of potti sriramulu. an year after andhra state announcement was made in center. resolution was introduced and failed in madras assembly in 1952 after potti sriramulu first hunger strike. even then the center went ahead and passed the bill in parliament. the clipping you posted has got nothing to do with formation of andhra state. it is the andhra state bill that dealt with boundaries, transfer of power, sharing of debt etc. that announcement of co operation was made by TN congress party. even after that announcement 200 amendments were made to the bill. adhi soopinchi andhra state formation mutual consent tho aindhi ani coloring istunnava. keep trying. After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8136 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 06:29 pm: |
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Andhra Patrika newsclip- Tamilnadu congress totally approving Nehru's announcement on Andhra formation without Madras. http://i55.tinypic.com/2ccqptt.jpg Ippudu malli vithanda vadam cheyandi- Mundu oppukoka poina Nehru statement ivvagane oppeskunnaru Nehru Tamilnadu leaders tho asalu matladakundane statement ichadu. Asalu discussion lekunda, both sides nundi compromise achieve avakunda announcement isthe moham meeda oostaru, ila maaku istame ani announcement cheyaru. Intha kante evaru cheppaleru. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Bob
Junior Artist Username: Bob
Post Number: 25 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 24.248.74.254
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 05:19 pm: |
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Indiarocks: Idem argument, TN vallu pass cheyadda kalipeskundamu ante resolution? Basky_indya: pulihora kathal baaga septhav. ippudu AP,TN assembly passssss chesesthey UNITED STATE aipothaya.... IR Goru ------------------------------------------ Basky annai, AP, TN kaadu common understanding between Andhra and Hyderabad states TN lo nundi Andhra veraindi 53 lo Andhra & Hyd states merger ayyi AP form ayyindi 56 lo |
   
Bushu
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Post Number: 3548 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 12.30.230.138
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 05:14 pm: |
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okapudu sanman, indiarocks idharu okatey anukunetodni. ee double futo fighting endehe face off lekka? |
   
Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 4706 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 04:54 pm: |
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Indiarocks:Initially opposition undi, but thru discussions, compromise they achieved a mutual consent, and the center facilitated it
mee mind lo unfold aina story charitra kaadhu IR gaaru. separate andhra resolution was introduced in madras assembly and it did not pass. aina kuda it was passed in parliament. madras did not agree to separate andhra neither in the beginning nor in the end like you dream. the initiative came from center after Nehru's intervention. After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8135 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 04:30 pm: |
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Sanman: auna. bagane teluse meeku history. potti sriramulu second hunger strike is for madras. first time enduku chesaro telusa ?
babu Andhra aina, jharkhand, chattisgarh aina udyamalu jaragaledu, janalu kottukoledu ani evaru cheppatledu. Edi emina chivariki rendu sides compromise cheskuni, mutual consent tho vidipoyaru. Compromise, consent, lekunda oka side opinion inkoka side ruddithe danni problem ki solution anaru. all of this is just common sense. andhra formation kachitamga TN valla consent thone ayyindi. First nunde meeru vidipondi ani vallu cheppara ani malli vithanda vadam cheyaddu. Initially opposition undi, but thru discussions, compromise they achieved a mutual consent, and the center facilitated it. Ala kakunda constitution translation dictionary lo choosi Parliament lo bill pedathamu ante ippatiki kottukuntu undevallu Andhra and TN. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Sanman
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Post Number: 4704 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 04:21 pm: |
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Indiarocks:FYI TN agreed on Andhra
auna. bagane teluse meeku history. potti sriramulu second hunger strike is for madras. first time enduku chesaro telusa ? After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8134 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 04:13 pm: |
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Sanman:in case TN didnt agree (which it didnt) to andhra formation, you would have been standing against separate andhra state with your both sides must consent slogan. good going. do you know if separate andhra resolution passed in TN assembly ?
FYI TN agreed on Andhra, the main issue of contention was the city of madras. A compromise was reached when Andhras stepped down on Madras. The same principle on which Andhra was formed, language, has been applied throughout the country. That itself tells a lot. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Sanman
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Post Number: 4703 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 04:04 pm: |
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Indiarocks:mutual consent
in case TN didnt agree (which it didnt) to andhra formation, you would have been standing against separate andhra state with your both sides must consent slogan. good going. do you know if separate andhra resolution passed in TN assembly ? After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8132 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 03:59 pm: |
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Indiarocks:50pc, 75pc, or 100pc merger/bifurcation should happen on mutual consent, and compromise on both sides.
to clarify, e 75pc, 100pc only within telangana. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8131 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 03:57 pm: |
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Sanman:does your stand change after you read that 2/3 of T supports it ?
I brought up the 50pc point only after you spoke as if each and everybody of Telangana wants a separate state, and that their will is being suppressed. 50pc, 75pc, or 100pc merger/bifurcation should happen on mutual consent, and compromise on both sides. That has been the way it happened in this country. If you want to go just literally by the constitution, the constitution says the term "state" DOES NOT even apply to J&K. Now I don't have to elaborate on how ppl can use it in an argument.  What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 4701 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 03:47 pm: |
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Indiarocks:ela calculate cheskunna.
i agree it is a honest mistake. http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/article2370014.ece does your stand change after you read that 2/3 of T supports it ? if not doesn't it mean you already have a preset opinion on it and you are just finding content that suits your stand ? After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8130 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 03:43 pm: |
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Sanman: Such an impression arises partly from a misreading of the survey findings. Our survey clearly shows that within the Telangana region nearly two-thirds of those who have an opinion support a separate State. Since 2004, when the CSDS started asking this question in Andhra Pradesh, the support for a separate State has increased consistently within the Telangana region. This basic finding cannot possibly be read as propaganda against a separate Telangana. The survey also found that there still is a small section of people within the region (more in Hyderabad and some other districts) who do not support this demand, and that the level of opposition to Telangana in the rest of Andhra Pradesh is even stronger. We have no reason to disbelieve these findings. mottam andhra pradesh lo separate telangana ni support chestara ante 50% yes annara. good job.
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=10rpz6o&s=7 http://tinypic.com/r/2uqj8yu/7 idi first cheppindi. naaku 2/3 ekkada kanipinchala, ela calculate cheskunna. Anyway that is not my point. My point is only of compromise on both sides, and mutual consent. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 4699 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 03:33 pm: |
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Indiarocks:live examples of newly formed states unnayi. All of them much smaller than T.
the examples you gave confirm the constitutional process. they don't go against it. the introduction of resolution is a necessary step. passing of resolution is not necessary. ee point meeku ardham kakapovadaniki pedda reason emi kanapattam laedhu. rest mee 50% telangana survey After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8129 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 03:24 pm: |
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Sanman:ambedkar mee kanna naa kanna telivaina vadu kadha anduke alaa pettaadu so even smaller states with minor representation can still qualify for a separate state ani. are you saying they do need to pass the assembly resolution according to constitution ? if you know (i hope) they don't, why do you think it was written like that
Indiarocks:The president can refer to the opinion of the state legislature. appudu state legislature opinion cheppakunda Parliament kooda em peekaledu. Pichollai pettaledu ee clause.
ambedkar em pettadu already ichanu. Adi kakunda live examples of newly formed states unnayi. All of them much smaller than T. Ayina nenu pattukunna kundelu ki moode kallu ante evarem cheyaleru. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Sanman
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Post Number: 4697 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 03:22 pm: |
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Indiarocks:The recent survey in Telangana showed that only 50% want a separate state. What abt the will of ppl who want it united?
IR nee id hack ayyindha. evaru ee posts vestundhi. endhi ee cnn ibn survey ani google kodithe idhi bayata padindhi Such an impression arises partly from a misreading of the survey findings. Our survey clearly shows that within the Telangana region nearly two-thirds of those who have an opinion support a separate State. Since 2004, when the CSDS started asking this question in Andhra Pradesh, the support for a separate State has increased consistently within the Telangana region. This basic finding cannot possibly be read as propaganda against a separate Telangana. The survey also found that there still is a small section of people within the region (more in Hyderabad and some other districts) who do not support this demand, and that the level of opposition to Telangana in the rest of Andhra Pradesh is even stronger. We have no reason to disbelieve these findings. mottam andhra pradesh lo separate telangana ni support chestara ante 50% yes annara. good job. After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 4696 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 03:09 pm: |
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Indiarocks:I remember very well majority T MLAs lenappudu resolution pass avvadu, kabatti resolution pass avvali ante smaller states form avvatam impossible ani nuvvey cheppavu.
i am talking about current situation. ee roju bill pedithe emautundho cheppaanu. political parties dramas aapi leadership mandates pass chesi approve it ante anni musukoni pass chestaaru
Indiarocks: LOL resolution PASS avakapothe inka state legislature tho panenti. Ante state legislature opinion aduguthara, kaani valla opinion tho sambandham lekunda state form chesestara?
ambedkar mee kanna naa kanna telivaina vadu kadha anduke alaa pettaadu so even smaller states with minor representation can still qualify for a separate state ani. are you saying they do need to pass the assembly resolution according to constitution ? if you know (i hope) they don't, why do you think it was written like that After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8127 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 03:05 pm: |
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Sanman:alaa kuda anipistundha. inka nenu type cheyadam enduku. meere cheppeyandi nenem cheptunnaano. resolution PASS kavalsina avasaram laedhu ki ligislature tho sambandham laedhu ani anukovacha enti naake shiksha
LOL resolution PASS avakapothe inka state legislature tho panenti. Ante state legislature opinion aduguthara, kaani valla opinion tho sambandham lekunda state form chesestara? Bill just introduce chesi, bill copies tho naluka geeskodanika? What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8126 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 03:01 pm: |
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Sanman: you are blowing my mind with ur logic. rule is resolution does not need to pass ante pass ainavi rendu chupinchi lekapothe impossible ani annanu ani cheptunnaru. aap mahaan ho
nee posts ye vethukkovachu ee db lone. I remember very well majority T MLAs lenappudu resolution pass avvadu, kabatti resolution pass avvali ante smaller states form avvatam impossible ani nuvvey cheppavu. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Sanman
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Post Number: 4695 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 02:59 pm: |
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Indiarocks: New states form avvali ante asalu state legislature tho pani ledu ani cheptunnavu.
alaa kuda anipistundha. inka nenu type cheyadam enduku. meere cheppeyandi nenem cheptunnaano. resolution PASS kavalsina avasaram laedhu ki ligislature tho sambandham laedhu ani anukovacha enti naake shiksha After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
Sanman
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Post Number: 4693 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 02:57 pm: |
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aa cheppindi answer laga anipinchalaedha. oka fluke point pattukoni answer cheppu ante ilaage untadhi.
Indiarocks:they were able to pass a resolution, unanimous in some cases.
were those political turn out of events or human interest stories where MLAs decided to pass the resolution ?
Indiarocks:Paiga thamari argument enti resolution pass cheyali ante minority vidipovadam impossible ani.
you are blowing my mind with ur logic. rule is resolution does not need to pass ante pass ainavi rendu chupinchi lekapothe impossible ani annanu ani cheptunnaru. aap mahaan ho
Indiarocks:meeru adey path follow avvandi ante manaki special treatment kavali.
enno vithanda vaadhaalu vinnaanu kaani ee following example of recent events anaedhi ekkada vinalaedhu. pass it on to lagadapati After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8125 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 02:53 pm: |
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Sanman:
Inkoka example of ur skewed interpretation of the constitution. New states form avvali ante asalu state legislature tho pani ledu ani cheptunnavu. The president can refer to the opinion of the state legislature. appudu state legislature opinion cheppakunda Parliament kooda em peekaledu. Pichollai pettaledu ee clause. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 8124 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 02:48 pm: |
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Sanman:enti babu ee pidi vaadam jharkhand chattisgarh manchi baaluru telangana chedda baaludu ani. separation of a state in India is almost never a peaceful process. jharkhand chattisgarh too had violence and years of struggle. edho tv serial laga andaru kalisi matladukoni happy ending ainatlu cheptunnavu. those were all separate state movements more violent telangana. edho ending okkati pattukoni abba vaallu chudu entha baga chesukunnaro ani tv anchor laga chepte em chestam chaduvuko ani cheptam
question ki answer cheppakunda ee donka thirugudu enduku. Akkada kottokoldu ani nenu annana, akkada andaru manchi vallu ani nenu cheppana? Vallu kottukunna, champukunna they were able to pass a resolution, unanimous in some cases. Paiga thamari argument enti resolution pass cheyali ante minority vidipovadam impossible ani. There are more than 2 examples that disprove ur statement. Mana kante mundu, just a few yrs mundu ela states form ayyayi choodandi, meeru adey path follow avvandi ante manaki special treatment kavali. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Sanman
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Post Number: 4692 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 02:42 pm: |
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Indiarocks:Jharkhand, chattisgarh etc states ki idi teliyada? mari enduku assembly resolution pass chesaru, mutual consent kosam try chesaru? ante answer ledu. Paiga avi even smaller minorities than T.
enti babu ee pidi vaadam jharkhand chattisgarh manchi baaluru telangana chedda baaludu ani. separation of a state in India is almost never a peaceful process. jharkhand chattisgarh too had violence and years of struggle. edho tv serial laga andaru kalisi matladukoni happy ending ainatlu cheptunnavu. those were all separate state movements more violent telangana. edho ending okkati pattukoni abba vaallu chudu entha baga chesukunnaro ani tv anchor laga chepte em chestam chaduvuko ani cheptam After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 8123 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 02:31 pm: |
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Sanman: atu itu tirigi final destination ki reach ayyaavu. ee mukkedho first post lo ne chepte intha length perigedhi kaadhu kadha. malli daaniki constitution fac advani ivanni enduku
part of sentence theesukuni baaga adavu kani..deeniki reply edi.. Indiarocks:Jharkhand, chattisgarh etc states ki idi teliyada? mari enduku assembly resolution pass chesaru, mutual consent kosam try chesaru? ante answer ledu. Paiga avi even smaller minorities than T.
What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Sanman
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Post Number: 4691 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating:  Votes: 7 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 02:19 pm: |
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Indiarocks:Common capital involve ayyi undi
atu itu tirigi final destination ki reach ayyaavu. ee mukkedho first post lo ne chepte intha length perigedhi kaadhu kadha. malli daaniki constitution fac advani ivanni enduku After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
Methhanithodugu
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Post Number: 12838 Registered: 12-2008 Posted From: 59.93.71.38
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 02:10 pm: |
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Gandhiguevara:Musalodu Pakistan lo puttaadu adhe agenda apply chesthannadu...Nijam gaa veedu covert emo pakistan nundi...lafoot advani
gagua people ekkada born is irrelevant after 25+ yrs of stay see Mussharaff/Javed/Dawood born in India .... India ni ongo pettaru Cooling aifo advani is dead horse ...why do you beat it so hard
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Indiarocks
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Post Number: 8122 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 02:09 pm: |
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Sanman:evaru cheyinchaaru survey lagadapataa ? you must have friends from T. what does your personal experience tell you. dont say there are people who oppose and there are those are for it. tell me how many are against and how many are for. you just like going in circles
I cannot apply opinions of a small circle of my friends to the whole of Telangana. Forget abt friends, I was born, and spent part of my childhood in T itself. Survey was done by cnn-ibn. Sanman:simple basic reasoning suggests that you need consent of both parties for a merger but the disinterest of one party for a separation. right or wrong is a matter of perspective and who you agree with more. intha kanna ekkuva neeku life lo evvadu cheppadu
intha kante wierd ga kuda evaru chepparu. Common capital involve ayyi undi, 60yrs oka common state gaa unnaka mutual consent akkarleda? Jharkhand, chattisgarh etc states ki idi teliyada? mari enduku assembly resolution pass chesaru, mutual consent kosam try chesaru? ante answer ledu. Paiga avi even smaller minorities than T. Lastly, your interpretation, and understanding of the constitution is imcomplete. The constitution is not a step-by-step recipe book on everything. People in jharkhand, chattisgarh understand this, and hence they had some success. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Gandhiguevara
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Post Number: 20941 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 75.55.199.5
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 02:06 pm: |
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Musalodu Pakistan lo puttaadu adhe agenda apply chesthannadu...Nijam gaa veedu covert emo pakistan nundi...lafoot advani |
   
Gandhiguevara
Megastar Username: Gandhiguevara
Post Number: 20940 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 75.55.199.5
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 02:04 pm: |
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Advannam gaaru inka AP lone vunnaraa? Vijayawada velthunnaraa? gudlesi kottandi musali nakka nu |
   
Sanman
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Post Number: 4690 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
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Indiarocks:
evaru cheyinchaaru survey lagadapataa ? you must have friends from T. what does your personal experience tell you. dont say there are people who oppose and there are those are for it. tell me how many are against and how many are for. you just like going in circles. constitution says you don't need consent of all parties or every person or all groups. 100% consent is not what democracy works on. and why talk about a separate state demand anywhere in the country, what the people of THAT REGION think is considered for separation. not who they want to separate from. simple basic reasoning suggests that you need consent of both parties for a merger but the disinterest of one party for a separation. right or wrong is a matter of perspective and who you agree with more. intha kanna ekkuva neeku life lo evvadu cheppadu After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
Humpty_dumpty
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Post Number: 16388 Registered: 02-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 01:26 pm: |
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Bushu:shameless politician - such an oxymoron
LOL...good one |
   
Bushu
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Post Number: 3537 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 12.30.230.138
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 01:25 pm: |
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shameless politician - such an oxymoron  |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 8121 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 12:40 pm: |
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Sanman:you are supporting a suppression of will of people who want their demands met in the framework of constitution.
What is a measure of the will of ppl? The recent survey in Telangana showed that only 50% want a separate state. What abt the will of ppl who want it united? I am not saying that asking telangana is bad, but you have to convince others to form it. All the bifurcations that happened recently happened with mutual consent. You cannot impose the will of a section citing the constitution. Sanman:you want to use points in FAC report that suit you and ignore the ones that are inconvenient for you. you want to push the blame on politicians for failure of agreements but you support a party that is born against the same political system. what does that make YOU ?
Is this abt me or you? I never mentioned anu FORs, or AGAINSTs of Telangana in FAC. I only mentioned their final recommendation. If you can, show me a proof that their final recommendation was against the merger. Sanman:everything you are against now, go against the formation of andhra also.
The only thing I am against is merger/bifurcation without mutual consent. Andhra formed only with mutual consent. Andhras compromised on Madras, TO ACHIEVE THAT MUTUAL CONSENT. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Giant
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Post Number: 3470 Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 141.0.8.79
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 11:28 am: |
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Sivarakariki Advani thata national level nunche KCR level ki vachhesada lol.... What a shame |
   
Sanman
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Post Number: 4689 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 11:28 am: |
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Risingstar:kaneesam separate state kooda ivvaledhu...
punjab kaa After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
Risingstar
Megastar Username: Risingstar
Post Number: 26529 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 159.53.78.141
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 11:27 am: |
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Sanman:you are supporting a suppression of will of people who want their demands met in the framework of constitution. tomorrow if part of T wants a separate state and it satisfies all the conditions of forming a separate state i will support that too. you are against a constitutional procedure for emotional reasons even when you have nothing to lose.
khalisthan movement kantee goppadha peddadha telangana movement? sikhs antha separate country kavali annaru..vela mandini champaru.. kaneesam separate state kooda ivvaledhu... |
   
Sanman
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Post Number: 4688 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 11:24 am: |
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Indiarocks:My point is that any argument for merger/bifurcation should not be based on myths, or expectations of a special treatment.
you are supporting a suppression of will of people who want their demands met in the framework of constitution. tomorrow if part of T wants a separate state and it satisfies all the conditions of forming a separate state i will support that too. you are against a constitutional procedure for emotional reasons even when you have nothing to lose. you want to use points in FAC report that suit you and ignore the ones that are inconvenient for you. you want to push the blame on politicians for failure of agreements but you support a party that is born against the same political system. what does that make YOU ? everything you are against now, go against the formation of andhra also. i am sure you have a whole different set of excuses for that. After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8120 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 184.155.150.80
Rating:  Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 10:06 am: |
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Sanman: sir meeru details loki vellakunda politicians points use cheyali ante intha pedda disco avasaram laedhu. i see this going into t vs sa debate. good night
If u want to call this an T Vs SA debate, I have no problem. But I have refuted each of ur points with proof and examples. My point is that any argument for merger/bifurcation should not be based on myths, or expectations of a special treatment. 1. T vallaki asalu modati nundi istam ledu merger antunnaru - T lo mixed opinion undi. T emi special kaadu, mysore, bombay ila anni chotla mergers ki opposition undi. Vallu baalera ippudu? Any change will have opposition. 2. Bifurcation ki andari opinion akkarledu Merger appudu opposition unte convince chesake merge chesinappudu, bifurcation kosam kooda adey cheyali kaani balavantham gaa ruddakudadu. Merger was not forced, but was done with mutual consent. 3. FAC report cited problems with merger FAC report problems, AND advantages rendu mention chesindi. But what is important is their long term recommendation which was a merger. Nehru's speech announcing the merger lo he clearly said they are doing this as per fazal ali as this was his long term reco. Asalu recent gaa bifurcate aina anni states assembly resolutions tho pass aithe T ki special treatment endukivvali? Constitution is not a step by step recipe book to cite it and say its not needed. Chattisgarh, jharkhand etc were much smaller minorities. So ur argument that a minority representation cannot form a new state with mutual consent falls flat. 4. Most outrageous statement - only one side was at loss bcoz of the merger Deeniki chance ye ledu. As long as T had its fair share of representation in the govt, you cannot blame the merger for anything. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Cocanada
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Post Number: 33840 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 168.244.164.254
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 09:55 am: |
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orai Advani gaa ....... thhhhu nee batuku seda |
   
Siloan
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Post Number: 19148 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 132.174.20.41
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 09:51 am: |
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modi setha kooda jai jai anipisthe...all set |
   
Humpty_dumpty
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Post Number: 16369 Registered: 02-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 09:45 am: |
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Methhanithodugu: Single seat endi Mahasheeeyaa....
eti maa pithapuram nee kooda T lo kalupukuntunaara bokkalo okka himayath nagar seat. |
   
Methhanithodugu
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Post Number: 12816 Registered: 12-2008 Posted From: 59.93.71.38
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 09:42 am: |
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Morpheus:neki telvadi emo nizam velli paki tho kalustha ante Patel saab vangobettindu , asuvanti nijam ki jai kotindu nee fav KCR
vaadu leki budddi manaki emaindi .... naa Fav KCR aaa .enti naaki rotha ... Ne Sachipothaa....Baavi Kaavali Muje nahi bachao.... |
   
Methhanithodugu
Hero Username: Methhanithodugu
Post Number: 12815 Registered: 12-2008 Posted From: 59.93.71.38
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 09:40 am: |
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Humpty_dumpty:single seat BJP kee single supporter ledaa DB laaa....hathavidi
Single seat endi Mahasheeeyaa....
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Morpheus
Comedian Username: Morpheus
Post Number: 1182 Registered: 12-2010 Posted From: 198.179.142.6
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 09:39 am: |
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Methhanithodugu:Telangana ins Inland State daani Pattukoni Anni Border COpuntry States tho Comparing sasss ..
neki telvadi emo nizam velli paki tho kalustha ante Patel saab vangobettindu , asuvanti nijam ki jai kotindu nee fav KCR |
   
Humpty_dumpty
Moderator Username: Humpty_dumpty
Post Number: 16368 Registered: 02-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 09:35 am: |
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single seat BJP kee single supporter ledaa DB laaa....hathavidi inka state BJP gurinsi disco seyyakandi...bandwidth bokka...cpi cpm lekka |
   
Methhanithodugu
Hero Username: Methhanithodugu
Post Number: 12812 Registered: 12-2008 Posted From: 59.93.71.38
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 09:33 am: |
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Morpheus:repu power ki vachaka 2nd src coilation lo oppukodam ledu ani bongu boshanam kathal chepthadu , veediki votes vastai ante kashimir ni pak ki amminaa ammestadu
anthe anthe MMS Manchodu ... Pak Ammadu kaani Pak oka night free ga padukobedataadu .... Jai MMS .... Assala Telangana ins Inland State daani Pattukoni Anni Border COpuntry States tho Comparing sasss ...assala Indian Nation Integrity meeda emaina avagaahana unnada anta Jenalaki no Words ya  |
   
Morpheus
Comedian Username: Morpheus
Post Number: 1181 Registered: 12-2010 Posted From: 198.179.142.6
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 09:29 am: |
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Methhanithodugu:
repu power ki vachaka 2nd src coilation lo oppukodam ledu ani bongu boshanam kathal chepthadu , veediki votes vastai ante kashimir ni pak ki amminaa ammestadu |
   
Methhanithodugu
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Post Number: 12807 Registered: 12-2008 Posted From: 59.93.71.38
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 09:21 am: |
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Morpheus:
abbo 1969 nunshi INC emi sesthundi CBN Pettandi Podustam annadu UG lo ki poyaadu Jagan emo Bebebe Chiru is Mogadu he said and Stood by his words ..BTW in 2002 he thought he could develop Telangana by 2004 ousted and since 2004-2011 they dont have Power and now He has every right to Make a Stand .... Any Doubt Next Crying Reason please  |
   
Morpheus
Comedian Username: Morpheus
Post Number: 1180 Registered: 12-2010 Posted From: 198.179.142.6
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 09:18 am: |
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Methhanithodugu:Entha Advaaanamaina Baava jaalam...
Methhanithodugu:http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/318458_101503 65483394510_538159509_8125610_797366703_n.jpg
Idi chadivi Cry Baby Cry |
   
Methhanithodugu
Hero Username: Methhanithodugu
Post Number: 12805 Registered: 12-2008 Posted From: 59.93.71.38
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 09:17 am: |
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Suddenly Ohh Topic is Cry on Advani Entha Advaaanamaina Baava jaalam... Cry Baby Cry its your turn .....
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Thelegend
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Post Number: 7062 Registered: 04-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 09:14 am: |
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Indiarocks:Musalodu 85yrs vachina inka budhi raledu. State bifurcation ki andari agreement akkarledu ani kaaru koothalu koostunnadu. Idedo Sonia, MMS personal decision ainatlu.
BJP stand edayina this is very irresponsible statement. Maa T votes maaku ivvandi, S & A lo elagu mammalni pattinchukoru annattu desperation |
   
Film_fan
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Post Number: 18796 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.138.131.153
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 07:22 am: |
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andarni kalupukuni poyevaadu.....leader avuthaadu......Vajpayee was that for BJP..... Advani is a divisive personality......and his dream of leading BJP to power will never happen....... We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit. -- Aristotle
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Morpheus
Comedian Username: Morpheus
Post Number: 1174 Registered: 12-2010 Posted From: 68.100.92.251
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 06:56 am: |
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Risingstar:
mana saffron simhalaki eyana demudu kadaaa demudu mata marchadu deniki |
   
Jupiter
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Post Number: 2433 Registered: 05-2011 Posted From: 64.103.233.80
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 06:54 am: |
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//Advani - a shameless politician yes ... very true ... eedu PM kakunda pothademo ani veediki bayam .. adhe nijam |
   
Ipc302
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Post Number: 10177 Registered: 02-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 06:51 am: |
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Risingstar:http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/318458_101503 65483394510_538159509_8125610_797366703_n.jpg
ee letter ni publish cheyyali paper front page lo...neech kaameny BJP gallu power lo unnapudu oka laga lenappudu oka laga...next time nellore vsathe vankaramoothi venkayya ni laagi rendu peekali... |
   
Risingstar
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Post Number: 26517 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 76.99.86.64
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 06:47 am: |
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Adwani gadi letter to narendra http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/318458_101503 65483394510_538159509_8125610_797366703_n.jpg |
   
Gandhiguevara
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Post Number: 20938 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 68.87.76.246
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 02:24 am: |
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Yee yatra Seemandhra vasthundhaa...vummeyyaai vasthe...losers...seemandhra lo evadanna BJP janda attukosthe peda neellu jallali |
   
Diviseema
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Post Number: 7311 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 115.184.57.91
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 01:34 am: |
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ee musalodu em vaguthado eedeike thelvad . jinna super antadu, malli thouch antadu. ram janma bhoomi antadu, power vachhaka gammununtadu. waste fellow, waste party. MIM is better than BJP. This is the property of ANDHRAITE |
   
Sanman
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Post Number: 4687 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 11:12 pm: |
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Indiarocks:idem logic. T ki appudu, ippudu eppudu MPs, MLAs, Ministers, CMs, PM kooda unnaru, untaru. T lo janalaki vote hakku leda? Inka looters eppudu their own looters ye.
sir meeru details loki vellakunda politicians points use cheyali ante intha pedda disco avasaram laedhu. i see this going into t vs sa debate. good night After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8119 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 11:02 pm: |
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Sanman: now you want to abandon the fac report that you were holding high through out the thread
agreement ki, fac ki relation enti? What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8118 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 10:58 pm: |
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Sanman:i don't think there will be any benefit to T because of separate state. just the satisfaction that looters are now their looters.
idem logic. T ki appudu, ippudu eppudu MPs, MLAs, Ministers, CMs, PM kooda unnaru, untaru. T lo janalaki vote hakku leda? Inka looters eppudu their own looters ye. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Sanman
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Post Number: 4686 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 10:57 pm: |
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Indiarocks:I am reiterating, merger ki opposition okka T ki special kaadu.
Indiarocks: It was an agreement that both sides promised to keep.
now you want to abandon the fac report that you were holding high through out the thread Indiarocks:Lekapothe T ki 110+ MLas enduku?
ardham kaledhu. disproportionate number aa adhi ? After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8117 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 10:54 pm: |
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Sanman:again wrong. if that were true they wouldnt have been eager to merge and now they would be dying to break off, not stay together. here is how i look at it. first the merger was not full hearted on one side. they had to be reassured with promises and informal agreements which were not kept. both sides wanted to separate at some point. that was not allowed too. now one of them wants to break off and other doesn't. i don't know what is the justification to keep someone together forcefully. i don't think there will be any benefit to T because of separate state. just the satisfaction that looters are now their looters. at the same time SA has no right to stop it constitutionally and morally
I am reiterating, merger ki opposition okka T ki special kaadu. Opposition to change is natural. Bombay, mysore, kerala anni chotla undi opposition. Inkoka nijam, northern Hyd state ni pattinchukovatledu ani strong feeling undindi appati Hyd state lone. Kakapothe politicians kept the issue burning for their gains. Public lo unna dissent ni merger/bifurcation side divert chesaru, on both sides. Sanman:they had to be reassured with promises and informal agreements which were not kept.
Its not a promise that one side made to the other, idi chala skewed interpretation. It was an agreement that both sides promised to keep. Lekapothe T ki 110+ MLas enduku? Anduke okka T ki mathrame regional council ani cheppaledu. Anni regions ki ani chepparu. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
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Indiarocks:Did not expect this from u. Vizag, Vja both suffered a lot bcoz of hyd.
again wrong. if that were true they wouldnt have been eager to merge and now they would be dying to break off, not stay together. here is how i look at it. first the merger was not full hearted on one side. they had to be reassured with promises and informal agreements which were not kept. both sides wanted to separate at some point. that was not allowed too. now one of them wants to break off and other doesn't. i don't know what is the justification to keep someone together forcefully. i don't think there will be any benefit to T because of separate state. just the satisfaction that looters are now their looters. at the same time SA has no right to stop it constitutionally and morally After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
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Sanman: kani loss matram oka side ke kadha
inkoka example istanu ee statement entha thappu cheppataniki. Nalgonda lo fluoride water tho generations disable aipotunte, hyd lo addala medalu kattaru. Rendu T lone unnayi kada, what makes you think this is going to be fixed? State lo two sides unnayi annadi parama boothu. Ye district di its own side. Unless local govts are formed nothing is going to change. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
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Sanman:long term lo manchidi ani recommendation.
deeniki yes ani kaka ela artham cheskovali? edo kalipeyandi ani chepparu ani nenu analedu. max 5yrs agamani cheppadu ani kooda cheppanu gaa? What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
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Sanman: so you do agree it was not mutual consent to start with
ofcourse. but the opinion was mixed in T. T is not any special wrt this lack of consent. Bombay, mysore, kerala all had serious concerns about their respective mergers, and all opposed them. Sanman: kani loss matram oka side ke kadha
Did not expect this from u. Vizag, Vja both suffered a lot bcoz of hyd. However the merger is not the reason, its the politician. Example- mana politicians valana railways lo eppudu anyayam jarigina mooskuni undatla? Sanman: you of all should know better than that. if politicians were ideal what is the excuse of LSP's entry into politics
true, but ur statement is valid if ppl are supporting LSP now. But they are following the same ppl who betrayed them, and are worshiping them as their heroes. This applies to ppl on both sides. Sanman: really ? indulo neeku timing tappa anni issues address chesinatlu ardham autundha ?
issues okka rojulo address aipothaya? It is a fact that telangana leadership took a pledge that they will responsibly safeguard T's interests. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
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Indiarocks: But what is important is the final verdict, and they said YES for the merger.
enti IR idhi adhedho resounding YES annattlu cheptunnaaru. did you read the report at all ? 100 ifs tho both regions (remember the bigger population of SA) ki long term lo manchidi ani recommendation. edho kalipeyandi ani stamp guddinatlu enduku cheptunnaaru After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
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Indiarocks:The national leadership spent a lot of efforts to convince the Telangana leadership to agree for the merger.
so you do agree it was not mutual consent to start with
Indiarocks:gentleman's agreement honor cheyakapothe oka side di mathrame thappu kaadu.
kani loss matram oka side ke kadha
Indiarocks:What was the Telangana leadership doing if it was not being honored, ippude gurthuku vachinda?
you of all should know better than that. if politicians were ideal what is the excuse of LSP's entry into politics
Indiarocks:Only violation of the report is that the center did not wait a few yrs before doing that.
really ? indulo neeku timing tappa anni issues address chesinatlu ardham autundha ? http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/India_States_Reorganisation_Co mmission_Report_Telangana_Andhra After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
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Sanman:Exceptions Though states have exclusive powers to legislate with regards to items on the states list, articles 249, 250, 252, and 253 state situations in which the federal government can legislate on these items.[2] [edit]Administrative powers The Union and states have independent executive staffs fully controlled by respected governments and executive power of the states and the Centre are extended on issues they are empowered to legislate.[2] [edit]Union control over states See also: Article 356 According to the Article 356 of the Constitution of India, states must exercise their executive power in compliance with the laws made by the Central government. Article 357 calls upon every state not to impede on the executive power of the Union within the states. Articles 352 to 360 contain provisions which empower the Centre to take over the executive of the states on issues of national security or on the breakdown of constitutional machinery. Governors are appointed by the Central government to oversee states. The president can dissolve the state assembly under the recommendation of the council of ministers by invoking Article 356 if and when states fail to comply with directives given by the Centre.[2]
babu kasta padaku. oka paragraph, oka sentence batti artham cheskoru evaru. Mari article 356 enni sarlu vadaru. Going by ur logic the country will disintegrate in no time. constitution lo bifurcation ki bill pettaru ante state lo oka agreement undi aney artham, this is common sense, proven multiple times recently. constitution lo prathi di arati pandu valichi natlu undadu. Inka prathi di unte assembly enduku, parliament enduku discussions enduku. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
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Sanman:78. One of the principal causes of opposition of Vishalandhra also seems to be the apprehension felt by the educationally backward people of Telangana that they may be swamped and exploited by the more advanced people of the coastal areas. In the Telangana districts outside the city of Hyderabad, education is woefully backward. The result is that a lower qualification than in Andhra is accepted for public services. The real fear of the people of Telangana is that if they join Andhra they will be unequally placed in relation to the people of Andhra and in this partnership the major partner will derive all the advantages immediately, while Telangana itself may be converted into a colony by the enterprising coastal Andhra.
fazal ali report lo merger valla advantages ani kooda list chestadu points. So concerns okkate choopiste elaga? But what is important is the final verdict, and they said YES for the merger. Ee vishayanni dachesi myths propagate chesaru T lo. Only violation of the report is that the center did not wait a few yrs before doing that. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
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Sanman: what kind of convincing took place ? gentleman's agreement ? was there a time frame for that agreement ? was it honored ? how is your empathy not reaching to that part of the deal
The national leadership spent a lot of efforts to convince the Telangana leadership to agree for the merger. I have done enough research to know this for a fact. Even Telangana news papers lo national interests kosam manam linguistic states ki agree avvali anna opinion vachindi. gentleman's agreement honor cheyakapothe oka side di mathrame thappu kaadu. What was the Telangana leadership doing if it was not being honored, ippude gurthuku vachinda? Paiga same leadership leading the movement assembly loasalu 610 GO akkarledu ani speeches icharu. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
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Indiarocks:both are very bad examples. taxes apply to the whole country, here we have one particular state in question.
ok... you just explained why and how central govt has overriding authority over state's consent. i don't see how they can be bad examples. here's some reading - Exceptions Though states have exclusive powers to legislate with regards to items on the states list, articles 249, 250, 252, and 253 state situations in which the federal government can legislate on these items.[2] [edit]Administrative powers The Union and states have independent executive staffs fully controlled by respected governments and executive power of the states and the Centre are extended on issues they are empowered to legislate.[2] [edit]Union control over states See also: Article 356 According to the Article 356 of the Constitution of India, states must exercise their executive power in compliance with the laws made by the Central government. Article 357 calls upon every state not to impede on the executive power of the Union within the states. Articles 352 to 360 contain provisions which empower the Centre to take over the executive of the states on issues of national security or on the breakdown of constitutional machinery. Governors are appointed by the Central government to oversee states. The president can dissolve the state assembly under the recommendation of the council of ministers by invoking Article 356 if and when states fail to comply with directives given by the Centre.[2] After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
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Indiarocks:okati cheppu.
378. One of the principal causes of opposition of Vishalandhra also seems to be the apprehension felt by the educationally backward people of Telangana that they may be swamped and exploited by the more advanced people of the coastal areas. In the Telangana districts outside the city of Hyderabad, education is woefully backward. The result is that a lower qualification than in Andhra is accepted for public services. The real fear of the people of Telangana is that if they join Andhra they will be unequally placed in relation to the people of Andhra and in this partnership the major partner will derive all the advantages immediately, while Telangana itself may be converted into a colony by the enterprising coastal Andhra.
Indiarocks:But their final resolution was to merge both the regions. Inka problem enti?
i don't think the merger was bad. i am still talking about your initial post. Indiarocks:these are procedural aspects.
no they are not. there is a reason for both.
Indiarocks:but why do you think the center took care to convince the Telangana leadership for the merger?
what kind of convincing took place ? gentleman's agreement ? was there a time frame for that agreement ? was it honored ? how is your empathy not reaching to that part of the deal After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
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Sanman: not true. there are matters where center can impose on states like taxes, governor rule etc and it is not against constitution
both are very bad examples. taxes apply to the whole country, here we have one particular state in question. governor's rule is imposed under very special circumstances, and only temporarily, that too only after the governor who is supposed to be the states rep recommends for it. Bifurcation/merger if happen are assumed to be like that for ever. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
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Indiarocks:if the center imposes its decision on a state it violates the federal spirit of the constitution. The same document you have been citing.
not true. there are matters where center can impose on states like taxes, governor rule etc and it is not against constitution After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
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Sanman: fac lo points 375-380
okati cheppu. But their final resolution was to merge both the regions. Inka problem enti? Sanman:do you know if the process would have stopped if it didnt pass ? do you have any proofs of that ?
State lo resolution pass avvaala, parliament lo pass avvaala - these are procedural aspects. You are stuck on these. state lo pass kakapothe aagipodu, but why do you think the center took care to convince the Telangana leadership for the merger? Why did it not impose its decision citing the constitution? Constitution peru cheppi evaro teesukunna decision states meeda forcefully impose cheste country nadavadu boss. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
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Sanman:itlanti debates puttukostai ane kadha constitution frame chesukundhi.
if the center imposes its decision on a state it violates the federal spirit of the constitution. The same document you have been citing. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
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Indiarocks:Citing the constitution the center cannot forcefully impose its decision on the states. Deeniki AP formation ye best example.
passing resolution was not requirement for AP formation. it happened to pass anthe. it needed to be introduced and it was. do you know if the process would have stopped if it didnt pass ? do you have any proofs of that ? After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
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Sanman:again. resolution needs to be introduced in assembly (both assemblies in case of merger) . whether it passed or not depends on the socio political conditions during that time. if T resolution is introduced today, it won't pass in assembly because majority MLAs are from SA. should it mean separation is not possible. when you say all parties please tell me you don't mean all political parties
I see the difference. You are talking only in terms of rules, and literary meaning of what is in the constitution. I am talking in terms of the spirit of the constitution. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
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Sanman:all political parties consent is definitely needed.
all political parties consent is definitely NOT needed. After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
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Sanman: either we can talk about the constitution or we can talk about morality. if you want to talk about morality a merger needs consent of two parties. separation needs initiation from one party. if one party is not willing and other party wants to keep the union forcefully i don't know what you call it
Country lo unna prathidi constitution lo yes, or no choosukuni jaragadu. That is not the spirit in which the document is written. Sanman: either we can talk about the constitution or we can talk about morality. if you want to talk about morality a merger needs consent of two parties. separation needs initiation from one party. if one party is not willing and other party wants to keep the union forcefully i don't know what you call it
It has been already proved recently that a bifurcation is possible with the consent of the whole state. If one party cannot convince the other, or if the center cannot convince both parties on a compromise, a bifurcation, or merger does not make sense. Citing the constitution the center cannot forcefully impose its decision on the states. Deeniki AP formation ye best example. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
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Indiarocks:state re-org commission veyali ani ledu constitution lo, enduku vesaru mari
it is just a recommendations committee not an enforcement authority. as usual mana govts ki oka 6 months to 3 years study chesi committee chepte kani ground reality teliyadhu kadha
Indiarocks:AP state merger happened only after the T side agreed to it. Mee istam tho pani ledu, constitution lo raasi ledu analedu appudu. Enduku?
again. resolution needs to be introduced in assembly (both assemblies in case of merger) . whether it passed or not depends on the socio political conditions during that time. if T resolution is introduced today, it won't pass in assembly because majority MLAs are from SA. should it mean separation is not possible. when you say all parties please tell me you don't mean all political parties After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
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Indiarocks:enti aa apprehensions? 5yrs lo maripoyevi?
fac lo points 375-380 anyway lets not turn this into a telangana vs UA debate. i am just saying all parties consent is not needed according to constitution and according to common sense. all political parties consent is definitely needed. common consensus is a brutal joke. itlanti debates puttukostai ane kadha constitution frame chesukundhi. After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
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Sanman: your first post is against advani's statement. should he go by the constitution or should he go by what happened recently ? of course he is a hypocrite trying to benefit from the situation. but his statement is valid
constitution lo undi/ledu ani guddi gaa oka state bifurcation gurinchi state lo unna parties tho sambandham lekunda decision theesukuntara? okka question ki answer cheppandi - state re-org commission veyali ani ledu constitution lo, enduku vesaru mari, alage state merger ki both parties agree avvali ani ledu. mari enduku both sides public reps ni convince chesaru? AP state merger happened only after the T side agreed to it. Mee istam tho pani ledu, constitution lo raasi ledu analedu appudu. Enduku? What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
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Indiarocks:Idem argument, TN vallu pass cheyadda kalipeskundamu ante resolution?
you are still missing the point. assembly resolution is only a formality. it doesn't have to be passed. pass kavalsindi parliament lo.
Indiarocks:Why should the same rule not apply for bifurcation?
either we can talk about the constitution or we can talk about morality. if you want to talk about morality a merger needs consent of two parties. separation needs initiation from one party. if one party is not willing and other party wants to keep the union forcefully i don't know what you call it After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
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Indiarocks: afaik gujarat, maha bifurcation took place with the agreement of both sides. Yes, Andhra also formed with mutual agreement. Madras meeda compromise ayyaru.
none of them were peaceful processes. mutual agreement aithe allarlu godavalu dharnalu ivanni enduku jarugutai !!!
Indiarocks:Akkadi daka enduku recent yrs lo form ayina states lo okkati ayina assembly resolution lekunda form ayyinda?
your first post is against advani's statement. should he go by the constitution or should he go by what happened recently ? of course he is a hypocrite trying to benefit from the situation. but his statement is valid After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
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Indiarocks:Your argument is actually strange. Telangana, Andhra merger ni T lo konni groups oppose cheste, mee chavu meeru chavandi, merger chesi teeruthamu analedu. Vallani "convince" chesake chesaru. Why should the same rule not apply for bifurcation?
btw, ikkada chesindi center thru a law in parliament, states kalipeskovatam kaadu. But, they made sure that both the sides agree to it. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
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Indiarocks:Idem argument, TN vallu pass cheyadda kalipeskundamu ante resolution?
pulihora kathal baaga septhav. ippudu AP,TN assembly passssss chesesthey UNITED STATE aipothaya.... IR Goru kRUshITHO nAsthee dURbhikSHAM!! JP_ROCKS: ...der unte enchakka andarni giant wheel ekkistadu..girrr mani oogachu.. |
   
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Sanman:
Your argument is actually strange. Telangana, Andhra merger ni T lo konni groups oppose cheste, mee chavu meeru chavandi, merger chesi teeruthamu analedu. Vallani "convince" chesake chesaru. Why should the same rule not apply for bifurcation? What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
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Sanman: ya but passing the resolution is not needed. and your argument that same rules apply for bifurcation and merger is laughable. TN ni kalipesukundama mana assembly lo resolution pass chesi ?
Idem argument, TN vallu pass cheyadda kalipeskundamu ante resolution? Sanman: of course. they look at the interest of both regions. and their apprehensions turned out to be true
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Indiarocks:
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Basky_indya:ikkada rules ramanujam katthal baaga chepthadu. MADRAS assembly pass chesindhi adhi idhi ani
moosukuni ID tho piluvu, or else mind your own business. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
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Indiarocks:both assemblies lo resolution pass ayyake merger ayyindi.
ya but passing the resolution is not needed. and your argument that same rules apply for bifurcation and merger is laughable. TN ni kalipesukundama mana assembly lo resolution pass chesi ?
Indiarocks:One other fact is that Fazal Ali commission recommended the merger, kakapothe maximum 5yrs wait chesi appudu cheyandi annaru. Only thing the Cong did is that they did not wait for 5yrs.
of course. they look at the interest of both regions. and their apprehensions turned out to be true After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8096 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
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Sanman:IR you have a strange stand on this. are you saying that a separate state can never form if part of the state (MLAs) are not willing ? how did gujarat form ? how did Andhra form ? was it accepted by "andaru" ?
afaik gujarat, maha bifurcation took place with the agreement of both sides. Yes, Andhra also formed with mutual agreement. Madras meeda compromise ayyaru. Akkadi daka enduku recent yrs lo form ayina states lo okkati ayina assembly resolution lekunda form ayyinda? What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Basky_indya
Megastar Username: Basky_indya
Post Number: 28606 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 24.127.230.2
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Sanman:
PSR death aipoyyaka, ANDHRA state annoucnce ment chesaru PARLIAMENT lo. ikkada rules ramanujam katthal baaga chepthadu. MADRAS assembly pass chesindhi adhi idhi ani kRUshITHO nAsthee dURbhikSHAM!! JP_ROCKS: ...der unte enchakka andarni giant wheel ekkistadu..girrr mani oogachu.. |
   
Sanman
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Post Number: 4670 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
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IR you have a strange stand on this. are you saying that a separate state can never form if part of the state (MLAs) are not willing ? how did gujarat form ? how did Andhra form ? was it accepted by "andaru" ? After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8095 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
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Sanman: andari agreement undali ani evaru cheppaaru ? both assemblies lo resolution pettaaru. it didnt need to pass.
both assemblies lo resolution pass ayyake merger ayyindi. United state ki AP name pettali ani kooda both assemblies passed a unanimous resolution. One other fact is that Fazal Ali commission recommended the merger, kakapothe maximum 5yrs wait chesi appudu cheyandi annaru. Only thing the Cong did is that they did not wait for 5yrs. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Basky_indya
Megastar Username: Basky_indya
Post Number: 28605 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 24.127.230.2
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Entikaburlu:ikkada comedy emitante, TRS thinks BJP will get them a separate state even while they are in opposition. Please explain this stupid thing to me - has any party in power any where in the world, has ever listened to an opposition party on a major issue and conceded a demand? Now that Advani has entered the fray, even if Cong-I has some remote thinking about T, they will shelve the plan.
cong game plan is to blame on bjp saying that, if they introduce the bill BJP will not support it/ now BJP is asking to introduce the bill and they are willing to support it. adhi matter... now wacth out for congy stance kRUshITHO nAsthee dURbhikSHAM!! JP_ROCKS: ...der unte enchakka andarni giant wheel ekkistadu..girrr mani oogachu.. |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8094 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
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Basky_indya:kiki denial mode ki vellipoyyava... authali vadiki em teliyadhu ani.. kiki
alage anuko thappu ledu. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Sanman
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Post Number: 4669 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
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Indiarocks:states merge cheyali ante andari agreement undali ani kooda constitution lo ledu.
andari agreement undali ani evaru cheppaaru ? both assemblies lo resolution pettaaru. it didnt need to pass.
Indiarocks:two states merge avali ante gentlemen's agreement lantivi undali ani kooda ledu constitution lo.
anduke it is not upheld in court. gentleman's agreement is just that. in this case it was even broken After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
Entikaburlu
Side Hero Username: Entikaburlu
Post Number: 2273 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224
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ikkada comedy emitante, TRS thinks BJP will get them a separate state even while they are in opposition. Please explain this stupid thing to me - has any party in power any where in the world, has ever listened to an opposition party on a major issue and conceded a demand? Now that Advani has entered the fray, even if Cong-I has some remote thinking about T, they will shelve the plan. |
   
Basky_indya
Megastar Username: Basky_indya
Post Number: 28604 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 24.127.230.2
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Indiarocks:thamariki abcd lu teliyavu. continue..
kiki denial mode ki vellipoyyava... authali vadiki em teliyadhu ani.. kiki kRUshITHO nAsthee dURbhikSHAM!! JP_ROCKS: ...der unte enchakka andarni giant wheel ekkistadu..girrr mani oogachu.. |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8093 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
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Basky_indya:A,HYD state merger decision eppudu chesaru. A,HYD chesthey mari INDIA lo LINGUISTIC basis meedha form ayina 1st state AP enduku ayyindhi. kiki Linguistics basis meedha AP formation mundhey decide chesi, tarvatha rendu sides pass cheyinchi nadipincharu. kiki
thamariki abcd lu teliyavu. continue.. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Morpheus
Comedian Username: Morpheus
Post Number: 1170 Registered: 12-2010 Posted From: 68.100.92.251
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wait safron simhalu vachi mee todalu karisiooo |
   
Basky_indya
Megastar Username: Basky_indya
Post Number: 28602 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 24.127.230.2
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Indiarocks:
A,HYD state merger decision eppudu chesaru. A,HYD chesthey mari INDIA lo LINGUISTIC basis meedha form ayina 1st state AP enduku ayyindhi. kiki Linguistics basis meedha AP formation mundhey decide chesi, tarvatha rendu sides pass cheyinchi nadipincharu. kiki kRUshITHO nAsthee dURbhikSHAM!! JP_ROCKS: ...der unte enchakka andarni giant wheel ekkistadu..girrr mani oogachu.. |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8092 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
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Basky_indya:null and void merger ni continue chesthuuu povaccha. its already a mistake done in 1956, why dont the govt correct it now by demerging
mistake ani nuvvu chepte saripodu. Anduke assembly resolution kavali. merger null and void aa, nuvvu decide chesesava? asalu null and void ante meaning thelise vadava? What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Basky_indya
Megastar Username: Basky_indya
Post Number: 28601 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 24.127.230.2
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 08:52 pm: |
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Indiarocks:states merge cheyali ante andari agreement undali ani kooda constitution lo ledu. mari enduku andarini convince chesi both assemblies lo rsolutions pass chesake merge chesaru?
null and void merger ni continue chesthuuu povaccha. its already a mistake done in 1956, why dont the govt correct it now by demerging kRUshITHO nAsthee dURbhikSHAM!! JP_ROCKS: ...der unte enchakka andarni giant wheel ekkistadu..girrr mani oogachu.. |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8091 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
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Basky_indya:rules ramanujam ippudu MLAs agreement undali ani vaaadisthadu. monneppudo asalu MLA ki janalaki panulaki asalu sambandham ye ledhu ani vaaadinchadu. only policy geelacy ani. ippudemo mla agreement undali antaaadu kiki
ee post choosi cheppachu mokalu goki vesavani...kiki What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Basky_indya
Megastar Username: Basky_indya
Post Number: 28600 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 24.127.230.2
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 08:51 pm: |
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Sanman:IR chinna doubt - bifurcation ki andari agreement kaavaali ani constitution lo undha ?
rules ramanujam ippudu MLAs agreement undali ani vaaadisthadu. monneppudo asalu MLA ki janalaki panulaki asalu sambandham ye ledhu ani vaaadinchadu. only policy geelacy ani. ippudemo mla agreement undali antaaadu kiki kRUshITHO nAsthee dURbhikSHAM!! JP_ROCKS: ...der unte enchakka andarni giant wheel ekkistadu..girrr mani oogachu.. |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8090 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 08:50 pm: |
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Sanman:IR chinna doubt - bifurcation ki andari agreement kaavaali ani constitution lo undha ?
states merge cheyali ante andari agreement undali ani kooda constitution lo ledu. mari enduku andarini convince chesi both assemblies lo rsolutions pass chesake merge chesaru? two states merge avali ante gentlemen's agreement lantivi undali ani kooda ledu constitution lo. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 4668 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
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Indiarocks:State bifurcation ki andari agreement akkarledu ani kaaru koothalu koostunnadu. Idedo Sonia, MMS personal decision ainatlu.
IR chinna doubt - bifurcation ki andari agreement kaavaali ani constitution lo undha ? After shooting the two, the actor said he lost consciousness and could not recall the events that took place before he landed up at Care Hospital |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8089 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 08:44 pm: |
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Jp_rocks:musalod pothe namo ki line clear avuddi
enti clear ayyedi, aayana inkoka comedy. Oka state ki cm ayyundi fasting ani drama. monnati varaku cong witch hunting ani he himself is doing the same. Administration wise mathram better than many. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |
   
Basky_indya
Megastar Username: Basky_indya
Post Number: 28599 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 24.127.230.2
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 08:41 pm: |
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congress is correct hero for bjp bashers. kummandi kRUshITHO nAsthee dURbhikSHAM!! JP_ROCKS: ...der unte enchakka andarni giant wheel ekkistadu..girrr mani oogachu.. |
   
Jp_rocks
Hero Username: Jp_rocks
Post Number: 12919 Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 24.13.197.14
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musalod pothe namo ki line clear avuddi |
   
Kdnumber1
Hero Username: Kdnumber1
Post Number: 10086 Registered: 02-2009 Posted From: 68.82.208.176
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Siloan:Magaa chaadvii Susmamma telangana mp ga poti sesi zavasatvaal teeska vasthandi anta...
evariki zavasatvaal techedi.....bajafa ka adavani taata kaa !!!!???? clarity....clarity miss ayindi |
   
Time_pass
Side Hero Username: Time_pass
Post Number: 3383 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 24.92.200.152
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Mari ade noti tho Vidharbha kooda ivvalani anade. Malli daaniki noru pegaldu ee BJP gallki endu kante Thackrey vurikinchi kodatadu |
   
Goonda
Hero Username: Goonda
Post Number: 15932 Registered: 02-2007 Posted From: 199.82.243.106
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Siloan:Magaa chaadvii Susmamma telangana mp ga poti sesi zavasatvaal teeska vasthandi anta...Halle looya
modatlo ardam kaaledu.. nee dhamil slang lo sadivitey ardam ayyindi  |
   
Goonda
Hero Username: Goonda
Post Number: 15931 Registered: 02-2007 Posted From: 199.82.243.106
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disgusting fellow.. this guy was primarily responsible for bringing down VP Singh govt in 90's with his rath yatra.. vachindi sachindi ledu.. just oka 1000+ ppl died because of it and millions others were affected. |
   
Siloan
Hero Username: Siloan
Post Number: 19147 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 99.7.255.47
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Magaa chaadvii Susmamma telangana mp ga poti sesi zavasatvaal teeska vasthandi anta...Halle looya |
   
Maverick
Legend Username: Maverick
Post Number: 31477 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 192.146.101.24
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disgusting fellow Who is this DB member? |
   
Mental_sachinodu
Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu
Post Number: 6097 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 71.91.7.127
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 08:19 pm: |
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Nippu:State bifurcation ki andari agreement akkarledu ani kaaru koothalu koostunnadu.
this is the most irresponsible statement, since chidhambaram's declaration on this issue the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
Nippu
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Post Number: 4253 Registered: 12-2008 Posted From: 69.116.82.194
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divide and rule ane policy ni follow avuthadu advani bhai. |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 8088 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 07:36 pm: |
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Musalodu 85yrs vachina inka budhi raledu. State bifurcation ki andari agreement akkarledu ani kaaru koothalu koostunnadu. Idedo Sonia, MMS personal decision ainatlu. Peruki anti-corruption yathra, chesedi idi. This shameless fellow is responsible for at least 500 deaths. Asalu AP janalu oka madiriga kooda kanipinchatledu What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) |