| Author | Message | ||
     Entikaburlu Side Hero Username: Entikaburlu Post Number: 2286 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224 Rating: N/A |
that's arrogance of youth and technology. lot of grandmas use iPads. they wouldn't get what the manual says. the terminology itself is hard. they are simply not in that "namespace". | ||
| Catalyst Comedian Username: Catalyst Post Number: 1003 Registered: 07-2009 Posted From: 24.21.142.87 Rating: N/A |
not knowing the issue or the matter that has been discussed and making a dumb statement is the dumbest comment i ever heard - subba rao | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 8116 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
why do u need all of this. if you knew how to set up the passcode, you will know abt the siri option. if not, u r simply dumb. What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) | ||
| Catalyst Junior Artist Username: Catalyst Post Number: 998 Registered: 07-2009 Posted From: 24.21.142.87 Rating: N/A |
i second that  | ||
| Entikaburlu Side Hero Username: Entikaburlu Post Number: 2284 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224 Rating: N/A |
agree, people dont read manuals. first they check the web, if they are tech savvy. else they call support. | ||
| Maverick Legend Username: Maverick Post Number: 31483 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 68.51.67.38 Rating: N/A |
u learn from operating,going to all the settings etc..passcode page ki velte akkade undi setting..i dont know what else apple shud do Who is this DB member? | ||
| Catalyst Junior Artist Username: Catalyst Post Number: 997 Registered: 07-2009 Posted From: 24.21.142.87 Rating: N/A |
i told you earlier that many users do not read manuals. Do you read it? Did you read how Touch Pad works I can blindly NO. Thats how most users are. Apple was safe that they documented it. | ||
| Entikaburlu Side Hero Username: Entikaburlu Post Number: 2282 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224 Rating: N/A |
agree. the publicity makes it a well known quirk to every one. | ||
| Entikaburlu Side Hero Username: Entikaburlu Post Number: 2281 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224 Rating: N/A |
but i have a feeling that apple may not change the default setting, and I can understand why. It just disables so many useful usecases. for example driving usecase. | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 8108 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
LOL idi bug enti. Phone passcode set cheskunte, same page lo untundi Siri on or off anedi. A bug is something that needs a fix. Konthamandiki Siri kooda lock aithe baguntundi anukuni ala lekapothe bug aipotunda? What is JP doing for Kukatpally? What is JP doing for Kukatpally(in Telugu) | ||
| Catalyst Junior Artist Username: Catalyst Post Number: 996 Registered: 07-2009 Posted From: 24.21.142.87 Rating: N/A |
the person who raised this issue has to be appreciated. it was good that this issue can be corrected through a small setting in a phone and addressed through media. a negative talk is enough to spoil a movie run. | ||
| Entikaburlu Side Hero Username: Entikaburlu Post Number: 2280 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224 Rating: N/A |
actually, what would be cool is, Siri should be locked along with UI lock on inactivity or manually, but should automatically enable itself using voice recognition of the owner or a voice based password. that is how I would have designed the security. | ||
| Maverick Legend Username: Maverick Post Number: 31482 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 68.51.67.38 Rating: N/A |
Siri Passcode Lock Siri can allow you to interact with your device without needing to unlock your phone. If you have enabled a passcode on your device and would like to prevent Siri from being used from the lock screen you can: Tap Settings > General > Passcode Lock Slide the Siri option to "off" Inta kante banana volichi evvadu cheppadu..then emma phone konagane features choodakunda picchekinattu do this do that ani aadukunte ilaage badhapadali first..its pretty lame ppl call it a bug catalyst, asalu ee angle lo bug ani decide chesav Who is this DB member? | ||
| Catalyst Junior Artist Username: Catalyst Post Number: 995 Registered: 07-2009 Posted From: 24.21.142.87 Rating: N/A |
techies understand the meaning of beta but not everyone. A competitor laughs at their product and may even promote his product comparing their flaw which most uS businesses do. the persons who ordered may step back if this is not corrected asap. | ||
| Entikaburlu Side Hero Username: Entikaburlu Post Number: 2278 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224 Rating: N/A |
okay, it's all about how you view your phone. apple has documentation, and fortunately, so many people are talking about this, every one would be able to turn their feature off. seems quite easy to do. but once they lock siri, imo, it is not worth at all. idea is, you can talk to it even while keeping it in your pocket. it can also differentiate your voice from the ambient noise like a busy market. so some usecases will no longer work if siri is disabled with the lock. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4984?viewlocale=en_US | ||
| Catalyst Junior Artist Username: Catalyst Post Number: 994 Registered: 07-2009 Posted From: 24.21.142.87 Rating: N/A |
you cannot compare this issue to a car. Phone has information related to User. it might be passwords, bank accounts, home address, SSN or some secured information such as revealing his personal meetings, information etc. Here we are talking about the security which is an unknown user can get the information from this phone even he locks his phone. Example - you locked your main door but not the back door. a Thief can enter back door steals what he wants. this is a simple clarification of how secured your home is in your assumption by thinking that locking the main door secures everything. | ||
| Morpheus Comedian Username: Morpheus Post Number: 1171 Registered: 12-2010 Posted From: 68.100.92.251 Rating: N/A |
Android with Vlingo does the same why Apple Bashing, Apple still says its in Beta , what part of Beta you guys do not understand | ||
| Catalyst Junior Artist Username: Catalyst Post Number: 993 Registered: 07-2009 Posted From: 24.21.142.87 Rating: N/A |
yeah! better put this is a caption for the iphone it would sell great. Company sell its products for all users. they did not target the phone for college going students or PHD's or so called clever people who support their own argument. | ||
| Entikaburlu Side Hero Username: Entikaburlu Post Number: 2277 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224 Rating: N/A |
This is like saying, you cannot switch on a car if you have locked the door. Exact analogy. if you have a remote ignition, you can switch on the car, even if the door is locked. The iphone userinterface is locked, but it is still functional. anyway, wait till what apple says. I have not seen a response from them, did you? | ||
| Maverick Legend Username: Maverick Post Number: 31478 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 192.146.101.24 Rating: N/A |
Smart phones are used by dumb ppl ani ee thread chooste ardham avutondi Who is this DB member? | ||
| Catalyst Junior Artist Username: Catalyst Post Number: 992 Registered: 07-2009 Posted From: 24.21.142.87 Rating: N/A |
Thats a clear BUG. whether it is setting or usability or something something that doesnt matter. Most of the people who are using the phone might be not aware of the settings which is a business requirement for Iphone that had the control over this feature. System is acting stupidly when phone is locked. It did not cared about the setting when the phone is locked which is big bug. Most of the users do not know what requirements are they just use it with some common knowledge on phone not but by reading the user manual. it is a security issue which raises an eyebrow. Company can be sued easily for this security flaw if bad incidents happened. | ||
| Entikaburlu Side Hero Username: Entikaburlu Post Number: 2275 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224 Rating: N/A |
bug or not is decided by what is needed to fix it. IMO, there is no fix needed, either you have to set the default setting off yourself or the company has to set it off. Apple must have decided to keep it on after some statistical sampling of the user preferences. If they did not have a setting in the UI, then it is an enhancement request. If there is a setting but did not work, then it is a bug. | ||
| Doraveerachakra Junior Artist Username: Doraveerachakra Post Number: 262 Registered: 11-2010 Posted From: 80.5.217.252 Rating: N/A |
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| Catalyst Junior Artist Username: Catalyst Post Number: 991 Registered: 07-2009 Posted From: 24.21.142.87 Rating: N/A |
that a  | ||
| Entikaburlu Side Hero Username: Entikaburlu Post Number: 2274 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224 Rating: N/A |
this is a usability issue. suppose you are traveling in a car, and you want to keep using Siri, you have to keep it working even if the phone locked itself. Otherwise, you have to keep it unlocking. If you are so concerned about security, you can disable it in setup. It is a one time action. | ||
| Catalyst Junior Artist Username: Catalyst Post Number: 990 Registered: 07-2009 Posted From: 24.21.142.87 Rating: N/A |
mari phone lo bug vunte evari tiduthaaru....nuvvu nee logics....  | ||
| Coolmac Side Hero Username: Coolmac Post Number: 5230 Registered: 05-2007 Posted From: 65.170.103.156 Rating: N/A |
idhi telusu meshaaru...nen seppedhi lock cheste audio controls lock avuthaaya levaa unless u click on home again twice? maroka rendu clicks iste passcode ye kottochu mari | ||
| Adj Junior Artist Username: Adj Post Number: 24 Registered: 09-2011 Posted From: 173.70.108.135 Rating: N/A |
Access cheyyaleni aa? What do you mean?? Lock screen controls for Music (iPod) and Camera are available. Try locking your phone and press Home button twice. | ||
| Coolmac Side Hero Username: Coolmac Post Number: 5229 Registered: 05-2007 Posted From: 65.170.103.156 Rating: N/A |
nuvvu wipe chesey lopala, phone dorikinodu Siri ni use chesi nee data anthaa rabattestaadu... neeku antha time ekkada dorukudhi asalu... | ||
| Maverick Legend Username: Maverick Post Number: 31475 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 204.86.204.207 Rating: N/A |
>>in case nee phone poyindhi anuko... appudu eti sestaav? oka s/w lead vi ayyundi ilaa ela think sestunnav..chass phone pote, mundu wipe sese feature undi kada..if u lock siri too, u will be the first person to curse when u want to use siri while driving..u get some u loose some, PM's dont goldplate..just match what the user wants anthe Who is this DB member? | ||
| Coolmac Side Hero Username: Coolmac Post Number: 5227 Registered: 05-2007 Posted From: 65.170.103.156 Rating: N/A |
lock cheste sound controls ni kuda access cheyyaleni phone lo... Siri lanti voice enabled app ni matram vadhilesaara? malli users ye vaadukuntaaru ani aalla meedha thoseyyatam enduku...phone secured ga vundali ante user pettukundaadu kadha passcode enduku ichaaru mari  | ||
| Coolmac Side Hero Username: Coolmac Post Number: 5226 Registered: 05-2007 Posted From: 65.170.103.156 Rating: N/A |
ithe idhi kuda alage vastundhi wait cheyyandi...users ni tappu padathaarem mari | ||
| Adj Junior Artist Username: Adj Post Number: 23 Registered: 09-2011 Posted From: 173.70.108.135 Rating: N/A |
Babai whether you agree or not, option is there in the same screen in the next line. Adi manual ga on or off cheskovadam User taste ni batti untundi. Adi chooskokunda Apple ni blame cheyyadam avivekam. Ika Selavu.. Peace.. | ||
| Coolmac Side Hero Username: Coolmac Post Number: 5225 Registered: 05-2007 Posted From: 65.170.103.156 Rating: N/A |
inthoti daaniki mari phone lock enduku neeku...sophistication kavali..security kavali ante dobbadhu meshaaru...what is the use of phone lock if siri is still accessible to any one? asalu siri tho ememi seyyocho telusaa ajjakshaa neeku... | ||
| Cocanada Legend Username: Cocanada Post Number: 33835 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 168.244.164.254 Rating: N/A |
Siri daaka akkarledu 3GS lo voice control kuda same feature. no need to unlock phone driving chestu pin number kotti unlock chesi Siri vaadukovala ....bongem kaadu | ||
| Adj Junior Artist Username: Adj Post Number: 22 Registered: 09-2011 Posted From: 173.70.108.135 Rating: N/A |
Lock screen loki iPod controls and Camera control users request chestene vacchai ani gamaninchali meeru. | ||
| Coolmac Side Hero Username: Coolmac Post Number: 5224 Registered: 05-2007 Posted From: 65.170.103.156 Rating: N/A |
malli adhe maata  | ||
| Coolmac Side Hero Username: Coolmac Post Number: 5223 Registered: 05-2007 Posted From: 65.170.103.156 Rating: N/A |
This is your pure imagination I wud say, no one complains if the siri does not work after locked...but so many complains if siri works even after locking...its as simple as that!! At least Apple should have cautioned the users as this is a new option/service in the phone... where is the intuitiveness that apple talks about its UI? | ||
| Adj Junior Artist Username: Adj Post Number: 21 Registered: 09-2011 Posted From: 173.70.108.135 Rating: N/A |
That is now because Apple got their ass fried in the past about it. Siri ni ela kavalante ala vadukovadaniki option iste complain eti sendalikam ga. | ||
| Adj Junior Artist Username: Adj Post Number: 20 Registered: 09-2011 Posted From: 173.70.108.135 Rating: N/A |
Passcode set chesina ventane Siri disable aipothe, complain chese users vere untaru. Anduke apple aa decision teeskoledu. Intakanna clear ga em cheptam.. | ||
| Coolmac Side Hero Username: Coolmac Post Number: 5222 Registered: 05-2007 Posted From: 65.170.103.156 Rating: N/A |
Location service explicitly asks in a popup window for all..it does not come by default...how can u compare these two? | ||
| Coolmac Side Hero Username: Coolmac Post Number: 5221 Registered: 05-2007 Posted From: 65.170.103.156 Rating: N/A |
one straight question, what is the use of setting passing code when siri is still working after locked? This is same as keeping the phone unlocked kadha... apple should have dafault the siri option off when setting up the passcode...if user really wants to keep siri work all the time..let him choose that option...not apple | ||
| Adj Junior Artist Username: Adj Post Number: 19 Registered: 09-2011 Posted From: 173.70.108.135 Rating: N/A |
Why should Apple take that decision (to disable) for you or any end user? Neeku vaduu anukunte disable chesko. Same like location services. You opt in or opt out. Option chetilo petinna kooda complain cheste ela Nataraja.. | ||
| Coolmac Side Hero Username: Coolmac Post Number: 5220 Registered: 05-2007 Posted From: 65.170.103.156 Rating: N/A |
This is where the problem exists... irrespective of lock/unlock Siri enable seyyatam enti meshaaru asalu... 90% of the Apple phone users went into this problem of keeping Siri ON when setting the passcode... so, now u think 90% of the users are bums and what ever apple did was the good thing? | ||
| Thakita_thakita Junior Artist Username: Thakita_thakita Post Number: 128 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 148.106.2.6 Rating: N/A |
Andulo tappu emi vundi saami, First meeku phone with passcode lock raadu. When you set the PASSCODE LOCK SIRI setting is right below in the same screen. Adi kuda chusukokunda just passcode set chesi I am set ante ela??? Vaalu a OPTION ni vere screen lo ivvaledu ga. Inka nayam apple by default phone ki passcode ivvaledu, nenu desk daggara vdileste evado phone lepesadu it is security bug analedu | ||
| Coolmac Side Hero Username: Coolmac Post Number: 5219 Registered: 05-2007 Posted From: 65.170.103.156 Rating: N/A |
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| Adj Junior Artist Username: Adj Post Number: 18 Registered: 09-2011 Posted From: 173.70.108.135 Rating: N/A |
Apple sets the rules on everything in their platform. They did enableSiri regardless of Phone lock or not. The user sets a Phone lock to his preference. Siri disable when locked is in the same screen. It is not apple's mistake the user didn't see or feel the need to turn it off. In this case, Apple actually gave users the option. I can see if some people actually complain if Siri was disabled by default when locked. There is no reason to complain or blame Apple in this case. By the way, I use Android and will only use it because it suits me better. | ||
| Coolmac Side Hero Username: Coolmac Post Number: 5218 Registered: 05-2007 Posted From: 65.170.103.156 Rating: N/A |
nen ichindhi sinna example... in case nee phone poyindhi anuko... appudu eti sestaav? oka s/w lead vi ayyundi ilaa ela think sestunnav..chass | ||
| Morpheus Comedian Username: Morpheus Post Number: 1169 Registered: 12-2010 Posted From: 198.179.142.6 Rating: N/A |
inka janalu nokia yugam lo unnatunaru phone secure chesukokundaa undadam ento | ||
| Maverick Legend Username: Maverick Post Number: 31474 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 204.86.204.207 Rating: N/A |
orni, nee phone desk daggara vadilesi velte evado prank cheste apple ni tidatava? Who is this DB member? | ||
| Gatti_gunde Side Hero Username: Gatti_gunde Post Number: 2772 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 76.97.208.33 Rating: N/A |
thed title soodu Gagu annai esaad anukunna | ||
| Coolmac Side Hero Username: Coolmac Post Number: 5216 Registered: 05-2007 Posted From: 65.170.103.156 Rating: N/A |
mee antha telivainollu janal kaadhu kadha saar... by default they should have given this option enabled and let the user choose what they want...who is apple to set our privacy guideline? | ||
| Adj Junior Artist Username: Adj Post Number: 17 Registered: 09-2011 Posted From: 173.70.108.135 Rating: N/A |
It is upto user to keep his information and electronic devices secure. Are we going to blame Apple for not requiring a passcode by default on all iPhones? A stupid user is stupid regardless of the device or platform. Turn access to Siri Off when locked was the first thing I did on Oct 14 on my wife's phone. | ||
| Thelegend Moderator Username: Thelegend Post Number: 7059 Registered: 04-2008 Rating: N/A |
sec bug ye. Work around cheptunna nenu keep it in disable mode ani | ||
| Humpty_dumpty Moderator Username: Humpty_dumpty Post Number: 16360 Registered: 02-2009 Rating: N/A |
apple made a mistake it should have been the other way around it happens | ||
| Coolmac Side Hero Username: Coolmac Post Number: 5215 Registered: 05-2007 Posted From: 65.170.103.156 Rating: N/A |
for eg neeku naa phone dorikindhi anuko..anni seseskovachu except unlocking the phone...idhi security bug kakapovatam enti ajjakshaa? | ||
| Coolmac Side Hero Username: Coolmac Post Number: 5214 Registered: 05-2007 Posted From: 65.170.103.156 Rating: |
nenu phone desk daggira etti restroom ki elthaanu... evado vachi...call manager antaadu...entane call manager ki ellipodhi.. read SMS antaadu..sadhiveyyochu... what are my appointments antaadu... ichestadhi...inka idhi user feature endhi..open university idhi  | ||
| Idle_yzag Legend Username: Idle_yzag Post Number: 33260 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 198.80.144.187 Rating: N/A |
its just setting I believe, default cheyledhu anthe kada RahulGandhi/JP/Chiru | ||
| Thelegend Moderator Username: Thelegend Post Number: 7057 Registered: 04-2008 Rating: N/A |
may be. Antha sensitive info unte disable mode lo pettali and enable only when needed | ||
| Maverick Legend Username: Maverick Post Number: 31473 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 204.86.204.207 Rating: |
security bug entayya? its a user feature..prati daniki unlock cheyyadam deniki ani specific ga pettadu..asalu chadivara matter Who is this DB member? | ||
| Coolmac Side Hero Username: Coolmac Post Number: 5211 Registered: 05-2007 Posted From: 65.170.103.156 Rating: N/A |
Just tried on my colleague's 4S... deenemma beebatsamaina security bug idhi... urgent fix needed... | ||
| Dreamcatcher Side Hero Username: Dreamcatcher Post Number: 2164 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 208.86.145.68 Rating: N/A |
With all due apologices to gagu for stealing his line...this is funny that Apple did not securely implement this app. http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20122632-83/bad-siri-shell- let-anyone-use-a-locked-iphone-4s/ |
