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inthaki emi decide chesaru? Chickenee ya sea food ya
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Sanman:

ya. first example is you. second is me




expect chesa, thanks for the response
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Mental_sachinodu:

care to venture some examples?


ya. first example is you. second is me
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Sanman:

because that is the most efficient way where consumers vote everyday with their money. the alternate to that is bureaucrats deciding what and how much in what kind of quality people should consume




is this an assumption or educated guess, either way it is no where near. even experts in these system do not comment with such confidence, unless they are biased!!


Sanman:

because there is an inherent assumption that they are right and others are wrong



just like yours!!?


Sanman:

so that why people from socialist countries cant wait to get out of their country



care to venture some examples? i can give you people escaping from non-socialist countries in equal numbers. observations can be used to fit into our own theories.


Sanman:

what are you still favoring that system ? unless of course you don't understand what socialism means



another assumption from your side. you are the person who is favoring a particular system, to me system does not matter, what matters is the society, and to me systems change, based on needs. i give a hoot if the system is socialist, capitalist, spiritual.


Sanman:

things leads to poverty corruption and misery.



there is no proof otherwise, infact in almost all certainity we started from a free market society, but the strong will always take over the week, to assume that we will be ever free from this inherent human quality is something i dont understand.


Sanman:

the odds for a disaster are way higher when a small group of people (govt) make decisions for everyone else



that is how any system works, even market works within the same principles. it is just that the illusion of decision making is shared by everyone, as is the case with democracy.


Sanman:

if you didn't get it before, that example is to show that land is not a scarce resource and over population is not a crisis



i did not say its a scarce resource, i used the same example to show a choice is always available to every person, and there is no need for a market to make a decision for him.
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Sanman:

it is nobody's job to feed anyone else. dependents are fed by families not govts




Its immaterial who is feeding who and who is responsible. Its about production of food for everyone.


Sanman:

planet earth is a lot more robust than we imagine




Yes it is, but we are accelerating the processes antunna. Also each micro climate is more delicate than we imagine. Especially indigenous rain forests etc, you cut down one species and you risk losing all.


Sanman:

al gore's theories are highly discredited.




Its not true. There are more field scientists who agree with him than who disagree. Again the effects are more drastic in micro-environment than global.


Confusing gaa lekunda to point septha

Over population - I agree on your views of sustainable development. But the current populace of 7bn overburdens our planet
Man made climate change - is evident.
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Sanman:

the kids that raised in that environment are going to know what to do with their lives



Exactly....When the world population reaches 70 billions, people are going to know what to do with their nightmare.
BTW, this earth just NOT belongs to humans alone. It belongs to animals, birds, trees and so many others.

Sanman:

don't you think govt taking care of population with schemes like free rice free house etc is encouraging that behavior than discourage it ?



That is vote bank politics, that is why most politicians dont even want to touch this population subject.
why do I care aaa? nenu 21 century lo brathukuthunnaa...2011 nunchi 2050 varaku world sarigaa untay chaalu....2050 tharuvaatha world ekkadikelthey naakenti ...anay mind set ledhu kaabatti.
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Telugu_times:

�I regret to have made all those children,� says Godelive Ndageramiwe. �If I were to start over, I would only make two or three.�


there you go. the kids that raised in that environment are going to know what to do with their lives.


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�My father had 25 children � I have only 14 so far, and expect to produce more in the future,� says Kasadha, who has two wives. He considers a large family a sign of success and a guarantee of support in his old age


don't you think govt taking care of population with schemes like free rice free house etc is encouraging that behavior than discourage it ? unless he is asking you for money to raise his kids, what do you care especially if your taxes are not paying for his kids education and food ? would you tell a rich person how many kids he can have ?
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Sanman:

dependents are fed by families



In theory, yes
Reality...looks something like this
http://www.suntimes.com/news/world/8263677-418/as-worlds-pop ulation-hits-7-billion-plenty-of-challenges-are-born.html
She’s a 40-year-old mother of eight, with a ninth child due soon. The family homestead in a Burundi village is too small to provide enough food, and three of the children have quit school for lack of money to pay required fees.

“I regret to have made all those children,” says Godelive Ndageramiwe. “If I were to start over, I would only make two or three.”

At Ahmed Kasadha’s prosperous farm in eastern Uganda, it’s a different story.

“My father had 25 children — I have only 14 so far, and expect to produce more in the future,” says Kasadha, who has two wives. He considers a large family a sign of success and a guarantee of support in his old age
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Senapathy:

To me, if it is a challenge to feed 7 bn, then we are facing a crisis.


it is nobody's job to feed anyone else. dependents are fed by families not govts

Senapathy:

World lo inhabitable lands unnayi and they are mainly plains and medium forests. For sustaining the populace today, if we have to convert forests to agricultural fields at such a rapid rate, then that itself signals a warning bell..


al gore's theories are highly discredited. planet earth is a lot more robust than we imagine
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Mental_sachinodu:

why? why should it be upon market?


because that is the most efficient way where consumers vote everyday with their money. the alternate to that is bureaucrats deciding what and how much in what kind of quality people should consume


Mental_sachinodu:

so why is it a problem if individuals or a society decides to take an action?


because there is an inherent assumption that they are right and others are wrong


Mental_sachinodu:

if it were not for socialist principles 98% of the world would still be slaves to monarchs.


so that why people from socialist countries cant wait to get out of their country


Mental_sachinodu:

market existed presocialist days, and it was pretty well controlled by monarchs for their need.


ok and that shows that one person or a group of people controlling things leads to poverty corruption and misery. what are you still favoring that system ? unless of course you don't understand what socialism means


Mental_sachinodu:

every situation is a possible outcome, even disaster.


sure. the odds for a disaster are way higher when a small group of people (govt) make decisions for everyone else


Mental_sachinodu:

like the analogy where the whole world can be bundled in texas, that definetly a possible outcome, but do we want to be really there? is it something as an individual i need to be in, is a choice of mine.


if you didn't get it before, that example is to show that land is not a scarce resource and over population is not a crisis
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Sanman:

i didn't say it was upon the individuals. i said it was upon the market.




why? why should it be upon market?


Sanman:

market does need anyone's acceptance or approval for it to make the corrections.



so why is it a problem if individuals or a society decides to take an action? market influences society and society influences market, one does not exist because of another, one does not entirely decide how the other moves.

Sanman:

market changes are slow but effective.



it is more like, for the lack of better way to go and finally feel that whatever could have happened better. market exists because people decide it should exist. if it were not for socialist principles 98% of the world would still be slaves to monarchs. market existed presocialist days, and it was pretty well controlled by monarchs for their need.


Sanman:

ok let us assume only elected govts make these decisions. even then democracy is not a perfect system. it is the best system. does not mean it is perfect. if all democratic countries get it right we all wouldnt be in US and UK in the first place. elected govt assuming unlimited powers is no democracy at all. most of all us Indians should know better than that



so whats the point? is anyone saying any system is perfect? when it is you who is atually saying that a solution that opens up itself, in away it does!! every situation is a possible outcome, even disaster. but it is to be studied such a solution was desireable from where we are today.

like the analogy where the whole world can be bundled in texas, that definetly a possible outcome, but do we want to be really there? is it something as an individual i need to be in, is a choice of mine.
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Sanman:

second part initiator kosam




The point I loled was at the Texan attitude of big and we CAN do it..

Anyway, the definition of anything "over" is subjective. Experts in the field say that 6 bn is the tipping point.

Coming to your arguments about "sustenance" of the current populace, it is a different issue. To me, if it is a challenge to feed 7 bn, then we are facing a crisis. World lo inhabitable lands unnayi and they are mainly plains and medium forests. For sustaining the populace today, if we have to convert forests to agricultural fields at such a rapid rate, then that itself signals a warning bell..
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Telugu_times:

over population kaaka pothey....prapancham lo gully gully ki desi gaallu , chinku gaallu endhuku spread avuthundru?




vaatini develop jeyya neeki...
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Mental_sachinodu:

but it does not mean that a solution to the problem can be a choice that can be made by individuals to reduce the issue for future generations.


i didn't say it was upon the individuals. i said it was upon the market. there is a difference between individuals making a conscious effort for a collective solution and market doing it for them. market does need anyone's acceptance or approval for it to make the corrections. market changes are slow but effective. i hope you get the difference

Mental_sachinodu:

it is the choice of the people to setup a form of government that reflects their life styles and choice of living.


ok let us assume only elected govts make these decisions. even then democracy is not a perfect system. it is the best system. does not mean it is perfect. if all democratic countries get it right we all wouldnt be in US and UK in the first place. elected govt assuming unlimited powers is no democracy at all. most of all us Indians should know better than that
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Using India's 1 Billion Population is mis-leading, Each of the states in India can be a separate country and that would make their populations very small . It is instead better to use population density. India is ranked 32 here and Japan is very near in population density. And AP's population density is lower than Japan! And China is ranked 80! England's population density is more than China!
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Sanman:

human population has increased serveral folds in the past couple centuries and i am sure 200 and 100 years ago people were worried about it like people worry about it now.




yes, it was the same yesterday, it is the same today, and it might be the same tomorrow, but it does not mean that a solution to the problem can be a choice that can be made by individuals to reduce the issue for future generations. nobody claims that it is the perfect solution, but atleast a solution with a decent sacrifice. much better than waiting for a solution to prop by itself.
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Sanman:

i am putting it in the context of china govt imposing forced family planning and similar plans by our govt. forced sterilizations were done once in India and there is nothing stopping them again.




i disagree with this, it is the choice of the people to setup a form of government that reflects their life styles and choice of living. Now if the chinese have chosen a form of government that deems that population control is a needed measure in their society, there is nothing wrong about it. Unless it is killing the population against their wish and choice. Ok, now you might come up with theories that there is oppression and all, but as long as chinese with the government they have, it qualifies as a choice to me.
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Mental_sachinodu:

what is the reason for bringing a government here..


i am putting it in the context of china govt imposing forced family planning and similar plans by our govt. forced sterilizations were done once in India and there is nothing stopping them again.

Mental_sachinodu:

no problem can be solved easily, especially when it comes to satisifaction of a fair human society.


easily on that scale. i didnt mean with the waving of a wand. human population has increased serveral folds in the past couple centuries and i am sure 200 and 100 years ago people were worried about it like people worry about it now.
i am saying there wont be wars and wastelands because of food shortage. there are alternatives and markets will explore them
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Sanman:

food shortage can be addressed easily and most of it is not govts problem.




what is the reason for bringing a government here.. a government is an entity that can changed any time the society feels it is not a need anymore. historically governments have changed and so did economic policies and markets.

coming to the practicality of issue, no problem can be solved easily, especially when it comes to satisifaction of a fair human society. the statement that food problem can be solved "easily", shows the gross miscalculation of human emotional implication when it comes to something as personal as food choice for human consmption.

a society is planned based on existing conditions and extrapolated evaluation and estimation of dynamics of the resources, not based on theoretical studies, and proposed theories. and if the society has placed their planning in the hands of government, it is very well the choice of people.
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first part neeku. second part initiator kosam
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if needed man will colonize other planets, if you cant earn enough to feed your family, dont worry the kids will figure out how to survive.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Sanman:




nenu cheppindi eti, nuvvu maatladedi eti.

asalu texas gurinchi andulo entha mandi padatharu ani neneppudu argue sesa. All I said was there was great opportunity in grains/fertilizer side to invest for foreseeable future annanu. nuvvemo pepamcham lo andaru fish thini bathikestharu annavu, adi kada mana disc point. ippudu malla ee texas eti

I am OUT
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the change will be gradual and driven by need. might take decades as the grain shortage grows. first of all the need has to be real. eppudo future lo food grains crisis vastundhi ani ee roju govts public ni forceful family planning cheyinchadam anaedhi ridiculous. humans are not that big a drain on earth's resources. the weight of earth worms is 7 times that of humans. the only scarcity for humans in this century is energy. food shortage can be addressed easily and most of it is not govts problem. markets will figure it out.
and yes you can fit the entire world population in texas with bigger square footage than what an average Indian currently enjoys


1 square mile = 5280 x 5280 square feet = 27,878,400 square feet. So 268,581 square miles = 7,487,608,550,400. For simplicity say 7.5 x 10^12. That divided by 7 x 10^9 is indeed over 1000 square feet per person. So if we made one giant one-story compound over Texas, land, water, and all, we would each get a 1,000 square foot unit

i bet the initiator is not loling that hard now

http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=51292
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Bushu:

Dont you think there is a LOT of land in india that's simply unused?




China has little more than 3 times the land mass compared to India. Also India lo irrigation practice vachi still very primitive. mana daggara entha water wastage vuntundo thelusu kada. China lo rice yield per acre is more than 50% higher than we get in India.

Water resources vunna chota land ekkada use lo lenidi India lo??
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sea pakkana lekapothe seafood tinara. avi list of countries US imports from. entha time padtundhi freight ki ? tinadam ledha manam




brother avesam vaddu, koddiga theerigga alochinchu. sea pakkana lekapothe seafood thinaru ani nenu analedu. do you know how much it costs to move the freight around in high oil price world ani naa Q? US import chesukunte saripodda, migatha countries?? asalu food problem vundedi, vachedi poor countries lo kada, ayane vunte barber enduku anta??

Anyway, you don't have to agree with me. janam grains nundi seafood ki divert avutharu ani annavu, it's very difficult and expensive ani nenu annanu. Indians used to eat predominantly vegetarian. just take a sample now, AP lo enni lakhs chicken per month thintunnaro choodu. okka chicken ane kaadu, any meat product needs grains (corn etc.) as feed kada?

Do you know, the US live stock population consumes more than 7 times as much grain as is consumed by entire US population directly? China and India are moving in the same direction. It is very easy to move towards high protein diet while you can afford and it is extremely difficult for the people to move in the other direction.
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india ki china ki area lo chaala difference vundi kada




Dont you think there is a LOT of land in india that's simply unused? don't think land is a problem - inequitable distribution of resources is a problem that causes migration from rural to urban areas and leaves a lot of prime land unused.
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aa spread sheet nenu adigina Qs ki answers aa??


aalochisthe ardham autundhi. planet lo entha mandi sea ki daggara ga vuntaru? sea pakkana lekapothe seafood tinara. avi list of countries US imports from. entha time padtundhi freight ki ? tinadam ledha manam
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india ki china ki area lo chaala difference vundi kada
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aa spread sheet nenu adigina Qs ki answers aa??
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this is the disco we had earlier
www.chalanachithram.com/discus/messages/125/150104.html
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Myth ani oka 3 reasons cheppu


please read my posts below and there was a similar thread a month or so ago
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The only way you could fix this problem is by depopulating half of the world's population by injecting dangerous virus as seen in the contagion movie.



AR annai: adhurs loss ante pokiri kuda loss ee
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..pakkodi land ni dhobbukelladam dheniki?




vallaki land leka dobbatledhu saami, power projection ki vadukuntunnaru. just imagine the productivity if even 50% of indians get decent education and start working.
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china will soon prove that population is NOT an issue




Bushu:

look at how they populate areas at their will - tibet, arunachal, xianjing and change the power dynamics



over population NOT an issue avuthey....pakkodi land ni dhobbukelladam dheniki?
might is right aaaa?
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in my opinion also




Myth kaadu ani nenu 100 reasons chepta, you also know what I will reason for

Myth ani oka 3 reasons cheppu
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china will soon prove that population is NOT an issue. in fact, if used wisely, it's a big advantage. look at how they populate areas at their will - tibet, arunachal, xianjing and change the power dynamics. once a strong, sustainable growth engine starts, literate population will only take it to the next level. India needs to figure out some of these issues.
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singapore's location made all the difference
http://www.quora.com/Singapore/What-did-Singapore-do-to-beco me-so-successful
read some comments below that article as well...like taking away NY city from usa, London from UK, kaula lampur from malaysia etc
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DB intellectual ki singapore example ki response leka hello hello antoo tirugutunnaaru
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india chutturaa sea undhi kadha manam enduku sea food thakkuva thintam.. adhee china,thailand,phillippines etc countries loo ekkuva enduku thintar?
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OT:

:-)) Rathri ban cheyinchukunnara?



adi OT ki. OT, rathri ban ayyara?
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NJ coast pakkana, okka endrikaaya kooda dhorakadhu




:-)) anubhavamtho chepthunnara? fishing rods avee pattukuni padma vyuhamlo abhimanyudu la vellara?? :-)
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eee stats annee yekkado hawai dhaggarlo, alaska dhaggarlo, antarctica dhaggarlo untai
NJ coast pakkana, okka endrikaaya kooda dhorakadhu




:-)) Rathri ban cheyinchukunnara?
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fish anni sea vadduki vachesi mammalni pattesukondi anavu kada?




Pipe, idi keka. I am imagining an animated movie now. fishes of all colors and shapes standing on their butts(tails) begging people in beach ware, please take me home, please.. like that.. hilarious..
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Sanman:

rephrase it. vetakaaram cheyalante kaneesam oka sentence clear gaa raayi. andulo sarcasm kanna mee baadhe ekkuva kanapadtundhi




I am sorry, you felt that way!
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eee stats annee yekkado hawai dhaggarlo, alaska dhaggarlo, antarctica dhaggarlo untai
NJ coast pakkana, okka endrikaaya kooda dhorakadhu
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Maverick, got it? I tell ya.. acc to this man, I see Sushi in your plate some day!!


rephrase it. vetakaaram cheyalante kaneesam oka sentence clear gaa raayi. andulo sarcasm kanna mee baadhe ekkuva kanapadtundhi
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99% of sea food goes unused. once man feels shortage of grains his diet habits will change




Maverick, got it? I tell ya.. acc to this man, I see Sushi in your plate some day!!
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western and middle eastern jobs lekuntay....mana over population ki.....music start ayyedhi eee paatiki. district ki oka kcr unday vaadu
over population kaaka pothey....prapancham lo gully gully ki desi gaallu , chinku gaallu endhuku spread avuthundru?
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planet lo entha mandi sea ki daggara ga vuntaru?



www.ers.usda.gov/Data/FoodImports/Data/2011/Fish1.xls
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except fossil fuels all other resources are abundant. whenever we think we food we think of grains. 99% of sea food goes unused. once man feels shortage of grains his diet habits will change






okavela mee argument correct ani agree chesina kooda planet lo entha mandi sea ki daggara ga vuntaru? fish anni sea vadduki vachesi mammalni pattesukondi anavu kada? you need boats, fuel to run the boats, then transport inland, refrigerate and export to wherever, and so on. entha energy intensive pano could you estimate? asalu vatti sea food tho world population anthatiki ela supply chestharu? next 20 years lo grains and fertilizer supply ki vunde demand inka ye sector lo vundadu, wait n see
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population definitely too much brother compared to the resources we got on this planet.


wrong. except fossil fuels all other resources are abundant. whenever we think we food we think of grains. 99% of sea food goes unused. once man feels shortage of grains his diet habits will change
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all the things you listed suggest poor governance and poor city planning. india population 50 crores unnappudu leni problems 100 crores aina tarvatha vasthe meeru cheppindi correct anukovachu. singapore where you lived for 10 years population density is 10 times more than that of INdia. im sure you didnt see the above problems there
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over population is a myth in my opinion also.




population definitely too much brother compared to the resources we got on this planet. unfortunately the poorer countries are the sufferers. manaki grossery bill oka $500/month perigina kooda pedda impact vundadu life style lo. ade poor countries lo (or even among poor people in G7) severe impact vundi
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how do you know she is not right ? over population is a myth in my opinion also. mana country lo indira gandhi start chesindi ee propaganda. basically helps govts when people think govt has a bigger role to play than allow them to live their lives




if you see any place in india, there is not enough drinking water, not enough hospitals, no roads, not enough housing, not enough power, not enough jobs, not enough schools, not enough trains etc. the govts have reached the state of helplessness. so, effects of uncontrolled population growth are real. not myth.
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Senapathy:

I loled at the comment on this article

katie1011011: THIS ARTICLE IS A TOTAL LIE, OVERPOPULATION DOES NOT EXSIST, THE ENTIRE WORLD CAN FIT INTO THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND I KNOW, I LIVE THERE, IT'S HUGE.


how do you know she is not right ? over population is a myth in my opinion also. mana country lo indira gandhi start chesindi ee propaganda. basically helps govts when people think govt has a bigger role to play than allow them to live their lives
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asalu point miss avuthunnaru andaru. who cares population peragataniki evadu reason enti anedi? perigina population ki first and foremost NEED enti? Food. So, invest in grains, fertilizer producers etc. That's where you get most of the upside in long run.
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independence tarvata mana population entha grow aindi..in fact ippatiki india pop periginanta ye country pop peragatla
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The only way you could fix this problem is by depopulating half of the world's population by injecting dangerous virus as seen in the contagion movie.
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percentage
anyway...today's article
http://www.suntimes.com/news/world/8263677-418/as-worlds-pop ulation-hits-7-billion-plenty-of-challenges-are-born.html
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where do you think it increased on a percentage basis? canada/aus/usa
or india/china/africa?




Aus/canada/usa ela form ayyayi? janalu valasa poyi aa countries form chesukunnaru 500 years back aa countries lo population entha??..vatiki 5000 plus years human habitation history unna countires ki ela compare chestharu saar?

Edo thellollu theyiyaka comparing chesarantey anukovochu..manam kooda na?
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but unna vallu kooda ee range lo consume seyyar anukonta..




Aa disparity eppudu untundi ...Desam lo ne unnavalla consumption - leni valla consumption compare chesina antenemo :-)
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mee desam ni em anatled



kocchen ye desham kaadhu
kocchen should be asked to countries, who are facing the problems of over population, which is clearly India
first we should find the problem, accept it and try to solve the issue
bengal lo famine raaledhu, punjab lo plague raaledhu, maharastra lo malaria raaledhu antay...kattam antunnaa
1998 lo world pop 6bill anta, in 12 yrs 7 bill anta
where do you think it increased on a percentage basis? canada/aus/usa
or india/china/africa?
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edo barrelu..gorrelu..ani facts theliyakunda noru sinchukuney vallaki thappa



Jp_rocks:

mana kaada adukku thine vadu kuda 10 mandini kani oori meedaki odultunadu....per capita consumption padipoka etavuddi


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vaallaki leka thinadam ledhu
vaalledho food ni conserve chesi...prapanchaanni uddharinchaalani kaadhu




baba goru,

mee desam ni em anatled..

but unna vallu kooda ee range lo consume seyyar anukonta..
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Zulesh,


naa ishtory namminatte naa aithe nuvvu




em istory..andariki thelisinde kadha..edo barrelu..gorrelu..ani facts theliyakunda noru sinchukuney vallaki thappa :d..everyone knows who is..was..and has been a burden on each and every natural resource..
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while a US citizen consumes 1,046 kg.




Idi implied consumption. For egjample nuvvu 1 barrey thintey, aa grain ni nee khata lo esestaar anna maata.

Also "virtual water" aney inko concept undhi. But as of today intercontinental water wars start avvaledu. One day they will.. kiki
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US eats ante thine dabbulunnai thintaru

mana kaada adukku thine vadu kuda 10 mandini kani oori meedaki odultunadu....per capita consumption padipoka etavuddi
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vaallaki leka thinadam ledhu
vaalledho food ni conserve chesi...prapanchaanni uddharinchaalani kaadhu
that is what cnn article was talking about
300 million people go hungry everyday in india.
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US eats 5 times more than India per capita




Zulesh,


naa ishtory namminatte naa aithe nuvvu
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US eats 5 times more than India per capita

Subodh Varma, TNN May 4, 2008, 01.00am ISTEven as the world spins into a global food crisis, a popular theory — voiced by the likes of US President George W Bush and secretary of state Condoleezza Rice — is that the Chinese and Indians are responsible. The 'logic': due to zooming incomes, they are eating more, causing worldwide shortages. But is that true? ( Watch )

Due to their huge populations, countries like India and China may appear to consume gigantic amounts of food. But the real elephant in the room that nobody is willing to talk about is how much each person gets to eat. And the answer will shock many.


wheat, rice, and all coarse grains like rye, barley etc — by each person in the US is over five times that of an Indian, according to figures released by the US Department of Agriculture for 2007.

Each Indian gets to eat about 178 kg of grain in a year, while a US citizen consumes 1,046 kg.

In per capita terms, US grain consumption is twice that of the European Union and thrice that of China. Grain consumption includes flour and by conversion to alcohol.

In fact, per capita grain consumption has increased in the US — so actually the Americans are eating more. In 2003, US per capita grain consumption was 946 kg per year which increased to 1046 kg last year.

By way of comparison, India's per capita grain consumption has remained static over the same period. It's not just grains. Milk consumption, in fluid form, is 78 kg per year for each person in the US, compared to 36 kg in India and 11 kg in China.

Vegetable oils consumption per person is 41 kg per year in US, while Indians are making do with just 11 kg per year. These are figures for liquid milk, not for cheese, butter, yogurt and milk powders which are consumed in huge proportion in the more advanced countries.

A significant proportion of India's population is vegetarian, and so, this is all the food that they get, apart from vegetables and pulses. But the source of carbohydrates and fats is mainly derived from food grains and oils.

As far as meat consumption is concerned, the US leads the world in per capita consumption by a wide margin. Beef consumption, for example, is 42.6 kg per person per year, compared to a mere 1.6 kg in India and 5.9 kg in China. In case you are thinking that perhaps Indians might be going in for chicken, think again. In the US, 45.4 kg poultry meat is consumed every year by each person, compared to just 1.9 kg in India.

Pork consumption is negligible in India, while it is a major item elsewhere. In the European Union, 42.6 kg pork is consumed per person every year, while in the US, 29.7 kgs are consumed. Pork is a staple for Chinese, and so over 35 kg are consumed per person per year. And, we are not talking about various other types of meat, like turkey.

All these comparisons are for powerful economies, whether of the west or the east.

But the story would not be complete without mentioning the plight of Africa, where foodgrain consumption in 2007 was a mere 162 kg per year for each person, or about 445 grams per day. Don't forget they are not getting any meat or milk products out there.
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denemma chala mandi intellectuals unnaru db lo..na valla kadhu..
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Tifosi:

proactive about implementing darwins natural selection





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Zulu:

he biggest jerks in our overpopulated world is India and China and other morally bankrupt nations who breed uncontrollable like flies on a carcass, including Africa. They drain their resources like Taiwan's fishing industry or many others and then pirate our waters to steal our fish stocks (news documented) while our imblanced nutcases in government look the other way. Giving condoms to Africa like our idiot leader in Canada is a waste of money, sterile the people after a two kids........including the women. No more handouts while they use condoms as party balloons and screw like rabbits while digging graves for kids because of starvation or aids.


bharani whistle.....well said

thinadaniki thikana leni candidates em chuskuni pillalni kantaro artham kadu..pillalni penchataniki oka plan, means emi lekunda pillalni kane valla kante barrelu better - atleast palu aina istai..

then emma desam, d'bettaru ela padite ala kani......kosi karam pettali means lekunda pillalni kane nayallaki..
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and you should know why.




Powai campus bhi 1990's la kala kala laduthundey. 2 leopard sightings, everyday snake show.. Ippudu all gone bcoz of concrete jungle :-(
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yehe lite. ghantasala saaru cheppindhi vini enjoy seyyudi.
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.US lo oka kodi Africa lo oka manishi kante ekkuva calories unna food consume sesthadi




alanti kodi ni simple ga one setting lo lepesthunnar db janal :d
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i think we should be proactive about implementing darwins natural selection and speed up the process

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usa lo food wastage untundhi, which can be controlled easily
can you reduce 1200 million people into 300 million people in 10 yrs?
usa is 3 times larger than india and 1/3 population
the cnn article was talking about over populated countries like china and india and poor countries in africa
america, canada, australia baagunnai anay kadha....andharoo akkadiki velledhi.
veellu kooda 2 billion, 1 billion population untay...manalani evadu raanisthaaru?
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Anthenduku, Hyderabad was such pleasant place to live in early 80's. Clean air, green localities and much more.. Ippudu chikkadpally povali antey rotha vastundi.




and you should know why. :D
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When India gained independence, we were about 350 crores. Ippudu we are about 1200 crores.




adhi only pillalni kanatam valla anukuntunnava?

Increased medical facilities, famines lekapovataam..handling natural disasters well..all these lead to increased life span..adhi kooda reasoney kada?
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endi swami..vadu correct ga rasindi? which country is draining world resources? do you US(which is less than 1/3rd of India's population) consumes more tonnes of food than India?




US consumes about 20% of the World's resources..

antha enduku...US lo oka kodi Africa lo oka manishi kante ekkuva calories unna food consume sesthadi
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There are 2 sides of the same coin. It is indeed true that countries like India and China ought to be super serious about the increasing population. last 60 years lo we put so much burden on our weak economies and standard of living.

When India gained independence, we were about 350 crores. Ippudu we are about 1200 crores.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_India

Anthenduku, Hyderabad was such pleasant place to live in early 80's. Clean air, green localities and much more.. Ippudu chikkadpally povali antey rotha vastundi.

Poor countries in Africa HAVE to cut down the natural resources to feed their family. Forests are cut for wood.

Bottom line in poor country: Would you cut a tree and feed your child or would conserve the tree for the rest of the world.

Anyway, the developed countries are also siphoning off the natural resources as their per capita usage is 4-5 times higher. They cannot blame anyone unless they clean their own backyard.
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zulai
vaadevado nacchalite ayinaa..karrest gaa raasindu comment




endi swami..vadu correct ga rasindi? which country is draining world resources? do you US(which is less than 1/3rd of India's population) consumes more tonnes of food than India?
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aa zamana lo india lo TV ledu..public entha sepu ani radio intar


ippudu TV lo midnight masala...appudu single track audio lo bhoole bisre geet
tell me which is a better choice? :D
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vaadevado nacchalite ayinaa..karrest gaa raasindu comment




baba garu,

vaadi raasindu meeru oppukonnaru ..bagane undi..

kaani aa zamana lo india lo TV ledu..public entha sepu ani radio intar
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vaadevado nacchalite ayinaa..karrest gaa raasindu comment :-)
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Sena, how abt this comment :d

The biggest jerks in our overpopulated world is India and China and other morally bankrupt nations who breed uncontrollable like flies on a carcass, including Africa. They drain their resources like Taiwan's fishing industry or many others and then pirate our waters to steal our fish stocks (news documented) while our imblanced nutcases in government look the other way. Giving condoms to Africa like our idiot leader in Canada is a waste of money, sterile the people after a two kids........including the women. No more handouts while they use condoms as party balloons and screw like rabbits while digging graves for kids because of starvation or aids. The missionaries tried for decades in vain to teach backward people about responsible family planning and failed and treasonous traitorous boneheads like Mr. Harper insanely gave $20,000,000.00 to Africa in condoms and we paid for it - only fools and crooks go into politics. The United Nations should try our leaders and others for war crimes too like George W. Bush. We need to replenish food stocks instead of wasting money on sick foreign lands who are sucking us dry because these nations cannot act like civil beings and want to financially drain the west: Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon, Israel, Egypt, Haiti, Libya, Yemen and many others.....
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entire japan can fit in this train as well




Thoroughly enjoyed this experience in Japan


Zulu:

AND I KNOW, I LIVE THERE, IT'S HUGE.




I loled at this part of the comment.

Aa mata ki vasthey mottam world population Alaska la kooda ettochu. Peeda poddi..
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katie1011011: THIS ARTICLE IS A TOTAL LIE, OVERPOPULATION DOES NOT EXSIST, THE ENTIRE WORLD CAN FIT INTO THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND I KNOW, I LIVE THERE, IT'S HUGE.




enduku lol..that is true

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_fOORhFmbA6s/TJjSQcnKMvI/AAAAAAAAB7 Y/dPU9eoHCcVY/s1600/Overpopulation+and+Texas.png
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THIS ARTICLE IS A TOTAL LIE, OVERPOPULATION DOES NOT EXSIST, THE ENTIRE WORLD CAN FIT INTO THE STATE OF TEXAS >>
Yeah
entire japan can fit in this train as well
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjJ3g_wv8H0
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http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/17/opinion/sachs-global-populatio n/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

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Dheen akka.. I loled at the comment on this article

katie1011011: THIS ARTICLE IS A TOTAL LIE, OVERPOPULATION DOES NOT EXSIST, THE ENTIRE WORLD CAN FIT INTO THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND I KNOW, I LIVE THERE, IT'S HUGE.
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