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     Bar_and_ha_cub Junior Artist Username: Bar_and_ha_cub Post Number: 113 Registered: 09-2011 Posted From: 206.243.134.73 Rating: N/A |
Great Indian Escape ledu, Indiana Jones Raiders of the Lost Ark ledhu.. There is NO empirical evidence that every stock Bought/Sold, for that matter upto a major percentage of the Average Daily Trading Volume, will have an effect on the price, it sounds more like a textbook fantasy.Most of the trades,even on Publicly traded securities, with a volume that can artificially manipulate price will be done as Private placements - Buy/Sell a big chunk at a Premium/Discount from a large holder such as a Buy side shop or a Pension fund. I think you are in a fantasy world that your order of 500 shares of BAC will make the market maker on the NYSE floor run around buying/selling for you. No, Your Broker will relase a BUY/SELL order to the market maker he deals with and then that guy confirms your trade. Most the big name/ high volume stocks will have specialists, as market makers, who not only controls a position but also control wierd ass price swings. Yesterday, AMR stock was halted from trading - who takes the decision to halt, Specialist Initiates it. Let me ask you one question -- Most of the time, you get the price that you see on screen when you clik Trade(BUY/SELL) for market orders, but as per you Price changes in seconds - So do you think your trade makes it through your Broker and market maker to their counter party? Possible if you are dealing with NASDAQ, but in out cry markets, such as NYSE, that is not how it happens - Your Market maker maintains position and for orders that is with in his range, he confirms the trade. Whether he goes back buying/selling same stock has absolutely no pattern? He may be over bought from the morning, or he might have had an overnight position in the stock or he may think that the stock is already at session high. If you think that every stock traded makes a difference, Will you agree that, on a stock trading with tight spread, an Arbitrage opportunity exists if I can perform a Wash Trade? - I BUY 100 share and SELL 100(forget about Transaction costs for now) with in matter of milli second, as per you the Shares I bought should push the price up right?? In the present world of technology, Don't you think that such a price anomoly is prone to be exploited by Arbitrageurs? OK - Let us accept your theory and try to test it - How can we decide on the base case price of the stock with or without that one extra trade? Is there anybody on the surface of the earth who can effectively simulate the Intra -Day trading of stock market, by adding or deleting ONE SINGLE TRADE? Don't you think - If somebody can predict the price of a stock at a given time will be richest man in the world? Your stand was confusing to me because I assumed that you thought Volume is directly proportional to price movement, so I thought I would explain that people normally break the trade down with multiple brokers so that their order gets filled soon and unless the volume is extra ordinarily high there is no directional impact on the price. However, there is an argument that Option Market, which is not as liquid as Stock market, players may be victims of Insider trading. But even in that market nobody was able to establish any evidence based on sheer volume and Open Interest numbers.
Le le .. I am victimizing the mankind with my farts by contributing to global warming  On the other hand, i am sorry, I take back my words, assalu victims ee leru, not even Opportunity loosers for Insider Trading, gippudu jeppundri 
Oho ee madhya, artificial price movements ni Market Manipulation anaka Homicide antunnara | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 4594 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
you are the one that said 1% volume does not effect price. every stock bought and sold effects the price. to what extent annadhi non issue. also it does not matter if the order is executed by one broker or multiple brokers. what is so confusing in what i said. buyers with market orders would have paid less if you weren't trading that day. market order ante seconds lo fill autayi and you are talking about the news after hours or days opportunity loss ki victims undara ? victim ante gundelo kattitho kindhapadi gila gila kottukunte kani oppukora the great Indian escape i don't know the details of the case. market manipulation annadhi meeru, nenu kaadhu. i am just answering the question in your first post Andhra vaallu T back ward vaallani develop chesaru...vidya, vyavasayam, vaidyam anni nerpincharu... - Vjawarrior | ||
| Bar_and_ha_cub Junior Artist Username: Bar_and_ha_cub Post Number: 112 Registered: 09-2011 Posted From: 206.243.134.73 Rating: N/A |
BTW, have a nice weekend, Monday maatladadaam. Weekend lo koncham bump ivvu.. Modnay maree vathukokunda | ||
| Bar_and_ha_cub Junior Artist Username: Bar_and_ha_cub Post Number: 111 Registered: 09-2011 Posted From: 206.243.134.73 Rating: N/A |
Start aindhi naaku bad time start aindhi
Asalu ee rendu questions ki emanna ponthana undhaa?? Oka sari emo, 1% thoni market manipulation aithadhi antaav, malli Single trading seat nunchi antha pedda order pothe Price jump endhuku untadhi antaav .. vammo idem logic
So what, the price would jump as soon as the news is out, so I am moving the stock in right direction. If the news was out, the buyers would have paid more anyways.
ehe.. The market order would have paid even more if the news was out,so not knowing the news is an opportunity lost -- Opportunity loss -- daaniki victims endhi asalu, they are in the market irrespetive of whether I am trading or not. Theoretical gaa ee one extra player, one extra order sollu baaga work out avuthaayi, practical gaa..kastam .. Nee lekka correct anukundaam, SEC and Preet Bharara threw the book at Rajratnam - 14 counts - but no case of Market Manipulation, evitko?? Inka Vallaki emi teliyadhu, nee theory correst ante.. | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 4592 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
says who ? how does it matter how many brokers executed it ? ya but you are buing BEFORE the news came out now you are just defending your pride. i clearly told you the market orders pay a higher price because of an extra player. 1% or 10% is a debate on the extend of damage which you said you are not interested in Andhra vaallu T back ward vaallani develop chesaru...vidya, vyavasayam, vaidyam anni nerpincharu... - Vjawarrior | ||
| Bar_and_ha_cub Junior Artist Username: Bar_and_ha_cub Post Number: 110 Registered: 09-2011 Posted From: 206.243.134.73 Rating: N/A |
Sorry !!I mistook your logic.Buyer analogy.. 1.25% tho asalu market manipulation anedhi almost impossible and practical gaa intha pedda order okka broker/trader execute jeyyaledu .. either way. In the case of Limit Order BUYS - The orders will never get fullfilled if the news was out. And the market BUY orders were in market even though I was or not in the market, nobody is BUYING/SELLING because I am. | ||
| Bar_and_ha_cub Junior Artist Username: Bar_and_ha_cub Post Number: 109 Registered: 09-2011 Posted From: 206.243.134.73 Rating: N/A |
Office space example emi explain jestadhi sir? An action is illegal even if it does not hurt anybody anthe naa .. evadu kaadu annadu?? | ||
| Bar_and_ha_cub Junior Artist Username: Bar_and_ha_cub Post Number: 108 Registered: 09-2011 Posted From: 206.243.134.73 Rating: N/A |
Ippudu kooda adhe prasna -- sticko sticku, who are the victims?? Let us take your example of Limit Order Sellers -- I have a tip and put in a Market BUY order and pushes the price to an extent that your order gets executed and sell the shares, but your intention was to sell the stock at that price anyway. And Just think, I dont trade on the tip and news comes out - Your order is executed anyway because the news pushed the market either way. And let us take Market order sellers, Nobody bought them to the market they were there to sell and How exactly did my BUY order victimize them?? It is an opportunity loss -- Minimal loss ani nenu ekkada cheppanu?? | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 4591 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
you need to stick with one question. you said it is a victim less crime. i showed you the victims. now you are saying the damage is minimal. the office space example should have answered that Andhra vaallu T back ward vaallani develop chesaru...vidya, vyavasayam, vaidyam anni nerpincharu... - Vjawarrior | ||
| Bar_and_ha_cub Junior Artist Username: Bar_and_ha_cub Post Number: 107 Registered: 09-2011 Posted From: 206.243.134.73 Rating: N/A |
Naaki kharma ante idhenemo .. nannu adigina prasne adugutunnaru  | ||
| Idiot1 Junior Artist Username: Idiot1 Post Number: 988 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 199.245.32.210 Rating: N/A |
naaku info ki access unnappudu press release ki one month mundu nunchi trading restriction pedataaru maa vaallu  | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 4590 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
assuming of course the inside info is positive or else the insider would be shorting and the sellers would be the victims in that case Andhra vaallu T back ward vaallani develop chesaru...vidya, vyavasayam, vaidyam anni nerpincharu... - Vjawarrior | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 4589 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
the buyers on that day are the victims. there is a new player buying the stocks and driving up the price, who would not have been there if he didn't have inside info. other buyers either did not get their orders filled in case of limit orders or they bought at a higher price in case of market orders Andhra vaallu T back ward vaallani develop chesaru...vidya, vyavasayam, vaidyam anni nerpincharu... - Vjawarrior | ||
| Bar_and_ha_cub Junior Artist Username: Bar_and_ha_cub Post Number: 106 Registered: 09-2011 Posted From: 206.243.134.73 Rating: N/A |
We can argue, how ever we want in this matter. But, SEC the governing body came up with a rule and Raj failed to comply with it. So he became a criminal.
Bascis of Finance meedha discussion vaddu brother, adoka pedda dikkumalina subject. I can go on for hours, without even making any point BTW,Prof.Fama's Efficient Market Hypothesis has more evidence against it, than supporting it. Especially, Strong Form has very strong evidence against it. It is just another academic Black Swan, which has absolutely no practical relevance. Let us take one simple assertion - Nobody should be able to beat the market given the same amount of Information, but George Soros, Buffet and Steve Cohen consistently beat the market. How is it possible? Are they trading on Insider information? Next they come up with a fancy theory called "Mosaic Theory" -- By taking bits and pieces of Information a Superior Analyst can make informed decsions and make a winning bet. Fine !! Infact excellent -- We are rewarding the smart guys. But who decides what bits and pieces are considered "Material" and "Non-Public", where do we draw the line.
Brothers -- I think we are miscommunicating here. You guys seem to ignore that I am acknowledging that insider trading as a crime but as a Victim less one. Get a chance please go through all my posts.The only reason I consider a crime because irespective your origin and profession you need to adhere to the law of the land. ee Free Market.. Rationality.. Advantage.. laanti pedda maatalu koncham awkward anipisthayi naak | ||
| Bushu Side Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 3458 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 12.30.230.138 Rating: N/A |
undue advantage is at the heart here, adhi ignore chesthey etlaa? no body stops a group of investors from getting together and playing the stock market. big corporations with deep pockets entha chesinaa, there is market efficiency and given the same amount of information to all the parties, markets will always respond accordingly. the minute someone has more information than the rest of the parties, there is an undue advantage and the markets are no longer efficient. this is basic finance. | ||
| Gandhiguevara Megastar Username: Gandhiguevara Post Number: 20751 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 75.55.199.5 Rating: N/A |
chandrudu ki kudaa machaluntaayi atta ani chandrudu bootiful kaadhu anaru kadhaa...aaa elements soosi edusthunnaaru antunnaa...malli kikiki | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 4581 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: |
aa cbn gaddam balayya bojja jr ntr height chusi edustunnaaru buckets techukondi Andhra vaallu T back ward vaallani develop chesaru...vidya, vyavasayam, vaidyam anni nerpincharu... - Vjawarrior | ||
| Gandhiguevara Megastar Username: Gandhiguevara Post Number: 20750 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 75.55.199.5 Rating: N/A |
Topic US lo daina edupu maatram CBN meedaki mallinchaaraa...kikiki | ||
| Maverick Legend Username: Maverick Post Number: 31278 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 204.86.204.207 Rating: N/A |
>>chandra bob in madapur CBN MM Kurrod ki insider info icchadani cheptunnava..over to mm supporters Who is this DB member? | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 4580 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
its not what about others in market are doing. its what about what you are doing. matter is not that complicated. price fixing, insider trading etc are illegal because they create an undue advantage to an individual or a group. it has got nothing to do with the extent of damage. if you want another example, have you seen office space ? is it illegal to take a few cents from millions of people ? those are the cents they throw away anyway Andhra vaallu T back ward vaallani develop chesaru...vidya, vyavasayam, vaidyam anni nerpincharu... - Vjawarrior | ||
| Bar_and_ha_cub Junior Artist Username: Bar_and_ha_cub Post Number: 103 Registered: 09-2011 Posted From: 174.63.84.29 Rating: N/A |
Maa aapice lo naa sodhi bharincha leka .. okkokadu LTTE mee Rajiv Gandhi ni sampindhi, aina nuvvu raj gaaniki support endhi anavattindru Cheppa leka sachi potunna, nen raj gaani kaadu SEC rules ni kochen jestunna ani After 6 long months of argument, iddaru oppukunnaru .. it kind of sounds like a Victim less crime ani Mosaic Theory, Material and Non-Public information -- definitions kaalam tho paatu maaripotuntaayi, so we can argue either side and grey area unna law tho 20 years jail endhi daridramga antunna .. Itla argue jeyyali ante.. Yashki gaadu Arikatla ganni uri teeya mantadu | ||
| Bar_and_ha_cub Junior Artist Username: Bar_and_ha_cub Post Number: 102 Registered: 09-2011 Posted From: 174.63.84.29 Rating: N/A |
nen seppindhi naake septunnava saaru
And those who are selling/buying are not doing so because I am putting a BID/ASK order in the market. Markets are liquid, kinda Naa stand explain jesaanu.. opika unte oka glance veyyi Other than, HYD real estate and our politicians - vere examples kaani Illustrations kaani unte pettu disco jeddham. | ||
| Bar_and_ha_cub Junior Artist Username: Bar_and_ha_cub Post Number: 101 Registered: 09-2011 Posted From: 174.63.84.29 Rating: N/A |
It is just not financial crimes, DA tried to label him a "terrorist" because of his affliations to LTTE, looks like the ploy worked. Looks like the Judge tried to average his minimum and maximum, 0 to 20, and gave him 11, andhuke saraina average sesi 10 or 10.5 vesthe saripoyedhi 11 ante too much kada antunna | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 4576 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
i am not comparing. i am drawing an analogy. that is not true. in fact it is never true. for someone to make money in stock market someone else has to loose money. either selling prematurely or buying at a higher price. which is fair game as long as one of them isn't cheating. Andhra vaallu T back ward vaallani develop chesaru...vidya, vyavasayam, vaidyam anni nerpincharu... - Vjawarrior | ||
| Bar_and_ha_cub Junior Artist Username: Bar_and_ha_cub Post Number: 100 Registered: 09-2011 Posted From: 174.63.84.29 Rating: N/A |
You are comparing Apples to oranges, Stock market(US) <> Real Estate market in Hyderabad. Liquidity and number of players make a huge difference. Assuming that everybody is in market to make profits, keep morals aside, and tell me who exactly is the victim here? | ||
| Gandhiguevara Megastar Username: Gandhiguevara Post Number: 20749 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 75.55.199.5 Rating: N/A |
financial crimes are considered >>>> capital rape in vomerica...edho deal cheskuni vuntaadu...anduke 11 years lo bayatapaddaadu | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 4573 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
the source of that information is the problem here. stock trading is a game of speculation. individuals and firms try to gain advantage using experience, expertise, and research. insider has an "undue advantage" which tips the odds in his favor. it is not a victim less crime. same logic is used by real estate politicians. if they know there is going to be a project in a particular locality, they but up the lands at fair price(most of time) from farmers. just because they bought at fair price doesn't mean they are playing fair. their insider position is giving them knowledge which others don't have creating an undue advantage. combine it with lack of morals and "practicality", you have an insider trader in case of wall street and a chandra bob in madapur Andhra vaallu T back ward vaallani develop chesaru...vidya, vyavasayam, vaidyam anni nerpincharu... - Vjawarrior | ||
| Moviefan84 Side Hero Username: Moviefan84 Post Number: 4763 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 162.138.1.3 Rating: N/A |
Ee lekkana J ki entha veyyaali antaaru? | ||
| Bar_and_ha_cub Junior Artist Username: Bar_and_ha_cub Post Number: 99 Registered: 09-2011 Posted From: 174.63.84.29 Rating: N/A |
OK !! Neek inka naa liquidity sodhi ardham kaaledhu. Let us take, Intel- Clear wire - Sprint example, Raj gaaniki oka tip vachindhi Intel money pump jestundhi ani, vaadu 120K shares konnadu. But Clearwire average trading volume 10 Mil, ante vaadi position 1.25% of daily trading volume, not even total number of CLWR shares outstanding. 1.25% of daily trade volume thoni market manipulation etla saadhyam ani prasnistunna Vaadu SEC pettina rules prakaram aada ledhu, aadni bokkalo nookindru, no worries , but 10.5 years vesthe saripoyedhi ... maree 11 years ante too much  | ||
| Bar_and_ha_cub Junior Artist Username: Bar_and_ha_cub Post Number: 98 Registered: 09-2011 Posted From: 174.63.84.29 Rating: N/A |
Evado jeppedhi endhi.. nen jepthe saripodhaa Let us not get into discussions on undue advantage, Corporations with deep pockets can manipulate markets through margins - where as an individual investor cannot so can you call that an undue advantage. Veedu kooda anthe antaadu.. Most of the people who gave me information were my friends and class mates from wharton, so meek dammunte HBS/Wharton la saduvundri, oka network tayaru jesukondri ani. I am not supporting him, but 11 years is too much for a supposedly victim less crime, which is highly debatable ani antunna. | ||
| Venkateswarlu Side Hero Username: Venkateswarlu Post Number: 9994 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 64.1.214.10 Rating: N/A |
Say I have some info and want to trade on it. I go out there and buy most of the stock by which denying others to buy my stock as I got the info way before it was made public. OR, say i have some bad info on my company and dump all my shares by which the share value might go down resulting in huge losses to other stock holders. In this db, there's always someone watching you!!  | ||
| Emc2 Side Hero Username: Emc2 Post Number: 4107 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 71.191.141.155 Rating: N/A |
mana vadu tamila pulula ki financial support kuda chesadu... cherapakura chedevu. | ||
| Bar_and_ha_cub Junior Artist Username: Bar_and_ha_cub Post Number: 97 Registered: 09-2011 Posted From: 174.63.84.29 Rating: N/A |
oka rule anthe, just to save sanity of capital markets. Basics of economics ki velthe - Money can neither be created nor destroyed(does not hold well in this derivative world- separate discussion) just like energy it has change forms/hands. Insider information unnavaadu Buy/Sell orders pedathaadu market lo, in perfectly liquid markets, nee counter party is NOT in the market to Buy/Sell just because of your order, he was there BUY/SELL but he does not have the information that you do. Let us say you have some information and you don't trade on it, will your supposedly counter party benefit from it, there will be somebody ready to BUY/SELL -- Knowingly or unknowingly. bongulo SEC.. Mosaic theory ani oka thokkalo theory undhi.. nuvvu bits and pieces of information tho trade jeyyochu but company lo non-public information thoni trade jeyyodhu ani jepthadhi. We can argue both sides, but I feel that 11 years is too much anthe. | ||
| Bushu Side Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 3452 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 12.30.230.138 Rating: N/A |
evad cheppadu. you need a level playing field when a stock is a public issue. insider trading gives one party undue advantage over the other. there's a reason why that's considered illegal. | ||
| Venkateswarlu Side Hero Username: Venkateswarlu Post Number: 9992 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 64.1.214.10 Rating: N/A |
I have no answer as I have zero knowledge on shares. However, if there is no loss, why is insider trading banned? In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
| Kaisersooze Moderator Username: Kaisersooze Post Number: 5088 Registered: 04-2009 Rating: N/A |
Bar_ cheppinatu to save the reputation..akkuva hilight cheyaledhu..ee desam controlled by TOPI gallu..Mckinesy lo kuda vallu akkuva anta.. | ||
| Bar_and_ha_cub Junior Artist Username: Bar_and_ha_cub Post Number: 96 Registered: 09-2011 Posted From: 174.63.84.29 Rating: N/A |
Can you explain me how Raj's transaction will manipulate the price of stock? Did he artificially create volume? Insider trading valla vache loss, opportunity loss, absolute loss anedhi vichitramaina logic. | ||
| Kaisersooze Moderator Username: Kaisersooze Post Number: 5085 Registered: 04-2009 Rating: N/A |
HYD lo ISB ki director adhyudu eeyanae first Indian to get into that position in Mckinesy | ||
| Venkateswarlu Side Hero Username: Venkateswarlu Post Number: 9991 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 64.1.214.10 Rating: N/A |
Solid proofs levemo?? May be he is the one who first was broken by SEC/Fed and took a deal. Ikkada deals elaa untaayo telusu kadaa.. In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
| Funny Comedian Username: Funny Post Number: 1534 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 63.97.174.131 Rating: N/A |
eeyana 8 or 9 companies lo board of director gaa vundevaadu. emi peekevaado teleedu kaani anni companies oke saari director ante mahaanubaavudu  Take it easy | ||
| Kaisersooze Moderator Username: Kaisersooze Post Number: 5084 Registered: 04-2009 Rating: N/A |
info ichina vadini enduku veyaledhu? | ||
| Bar_and_ha_cub Junior Artist Username: Bar_and_ha_cub Post Number: 95 Registered: 09-2011 Posted From: 174.63.84.29 Rating: N/A |
Very well known and Senior Partner of McKinsey, vellu lobby sesi untaaru and moreover he turned against Raj, so plea deal lo acquit aipoi untaadu Mckinsey, BCG laanti Management consultancies entha strict ante.. they fire people even if they find out someone faked on their expense reports. So aa reputation save chesukovadaniki, veedini save chesi untaaru. | ||
| Venkateswarlu Side Hero Username: Venkateswarlu Post Number: 9990 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 64.1.214.10 Rating: N/A |
Naa pakka cube lo manager undevaadu. He did insider trading of our stock and gained 800K. SEC pattukoni 10yrs annaru. He committed suicide. James fan, seattle genetics ani search kottu.. If you are doing stocks trading and lost the money on the stock raj traded, you might understand on how serious this insider trading is. In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
| Bunty717 Moderator Username: Bunty717 Post Number: 20553 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
ind'ans ki tho ide prob.. jaali ekkuva.. ippudu jaggu ni lopala esina kuda janam oo feel ayipoyi.. ayyo asala tandri leni pillodu ani.. next time votes estaaru.. manaki paapam gola chalaa ekkuva.. anduke Ind nakestondi.. OT's own dialog: Pativrate kaani, gokite vastundi | ||
| Kaisersooze Moderator Username: Kaisersooze Post Number: 5082 Registered: 04-2009 Rating: N/A |
11yrs too much sami..papam eedini bakra chesaru pedha pedha dongalu vunaru vallani vadilesaru..aa rajat gupta ni enduku vadilesaroo? | ||
| Bar_and_ha_cub Junior Artist Username: Bar_and_ha_cub Post Number: 94 Registered: 09-2011 Posted From: 174.63.84.29 Rating: N/A |
I strongly feel that Insider trading is a victim less crime, an for such a crime 11 years is little too much, ani naa feeling | ||
| Funny Comedian Username: Funny Post Number: 1531 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 63.97.174.131 Rating: N/A |
veedu srilankan anukuntaa. Take it easy | ||
| Bunty717 Moderator Username: Bunty717 Post Number: 20551 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
enduku alaa anipistondi.. OT's own dialog: Pativrate kaani, gokite vastundi | ||
| Bar_and_ha_cub Junior Artist Username: Bar_and_ha_cub Post Number: 93 Registered: 09-2011 Posted From: 174.63.84.29 Rating: N/A |
I think 11 years is too much.. | ||
| Gandhiguevara Megastar Username: Gandhiguevara Post Number: 20748 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 98.210.98.120 Rating: N/A |
why? open and shut case adhi | ||
| Bar_and_ha_cub Junior Artist Username: Bar_and_ha_cub Post Number: 92 Registered: 09-2011 Posted From: 174.63.84.29 Rating: N/A |
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-13/rajaratnam-gets-132 -month-prison-term-for-insider-trading.html Just Can't believe it |
