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Gsn1
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OT

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We have a system...if u think it is NOT working...fix it.....

Super Layer every time is not a solution


CBI , CVC, CAG ivi anni different levels of established check points to fight corruption..................Jokepal comittee want all of above report to them
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The MAIN difference between our existing system CBI, CVC, CAG, ED etc. and proposed LOKPOL is TRANSPERANCY.

We already know that our existing system is HIGHLY political and INEFFECTIVE and operate in a NON-TRANSPARENT way and work as political tools of the RULING party. When they act on a corrupt politician of our dislike we PRAISE them (Eg. Jagan's case) and we DENOUNCE them when they ACT on a person whom we like (Eg. Ramoji).

What this LOKPOL is, it is HIGHLY TRANSPARENT and will be under PUBLIC SCRUTINY which is KEY difference and MIGHT PROVE to be VERY EFFECTIVE.
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The basic issue here is not of specific clauses and mechanisms. I am sure there are enough people who are very legally qualified to handle the drafting part. When politicians were asked to regulate themselves and the system, the vested interests firmly entrenched in the system ensured that this law took 42 years and the first fast of Anna to get to the parliament. And even this law was so toothless and miserable that even ordinary people could see through the gameplan of the esthablishment.

This fight is against the basic inability of politicians and esthablishment to work towards a larger good of the nation, limiting their powers of patronage and bringing in some amount of regulation in their working. And it is this aim of Anna that needs to be supported.
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OT

Ipudu youth ela oogutunnaro
CBN time lo kooda alage oogaru
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Onlytruth:

inko five years aagi LOKPAL comittee paina 4th layer MENTALPAL bill pettalaa ?


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Onlytruth:

manchi kosam...



appudu anna maate enduku vinali??manchi cheppe valu chala mandhi unnaru
Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat
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anna mata prathi sari anni vishayal meedha enduku vinali?
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manchi kosam...
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Onlytruth:

every alternate week delhi lo team Anna meet ayyi...next 2 weeks approve cheyyalsina bills, tasks parliament ki isthundhi...all good n great things


parliament will implement it....OK ?



anna mata prathi sari anni vishayal meedha enduku vinali?? ee sari vinnaru becuase all opp parties supported anna along with people..centre felt the pressure..

and to ur last statement democracy is already a mockery in india...kothaga mockery ayyedhi enti..

Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat
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Onlytruth:

both cannot co-exist



They can OT bhai....The present democratic system has no will to come out of corruption and punish the corrupted ones...Even Manmohan singh is involved big time..ALl big ministers are also involved...We all know 80% politicians in India are corrupt to the core.....impossible to repair the system as amendments to the exisiting bills will not pass....CAG,CBI etc have become puppets ..now if u want to change the existing laws to make them more powerful...those bills will never pass....So an authority above all to monitor and submit to courts is needed....Thts wht Lokpal is fighting for....Its asking for Lokayuktha in every state...All the depts should have a Lokpal so that there is some monitoring....
Now if u want these Lokpal folks also to get elected....thru elections...u never know they might float a party later...but as a start it is gud...with Con-G-Ress and BJP both being corrupt (modi exception)...no point in waititng for politicians to amend all the exisiting laws which have lot of loophole and which will take years....
Country shud move in a direction wherein all the depts except Supreme court Judiciary and PM shud be under Lokpal preview.
Now a PM cant get involved in corruption without the help from his misinters who are anyways monitored...

Supreme Court Judiciary---I dont know how they will e monitored or may be Lokpal itself should monitor them....

Whatif Lokpal itself becomes Corrupt...Who monitors them...Its the Govt...This loop will always exist..
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Mana Babu colleges universities ooru vaada anni tiruguthunnadey.
>>>>>>>>

As a politician , Babu is also trying to get political mileage out of this mania
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Ayyo....Ayyo.........Ayyyo.........
Ivi anni teliyaka..... Mana Babu colleges universities ooru vaada anni tiruguthunnadey........

Hatha vidhi.....
No temple is holier than Mother
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Anand_N ,

so mee last post prakaram india ki democracy anavasaram.... self proclaimed OR ingeneral accepted medhavulu edhi decide jesthe adhi parliament chetha implement cheyiddhaam...

here it works :

every alternate week delhi lo team Anna meet ayyi...next 2 weeks approve cheyyalsina bills, tasks parliament ki isthundhi...all good n great things


parliament will implement it....OK ?

inka elections enduku ? either democracy is a mockery OR Team ANNA approach is mockery....both cannot co-exist
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ENTIRE NATION HAZARE TEAM VENUKA UNTE 35% votes techukolera ?




Hee's my take. The problem of corruption is not specific to a political party/term.

Election fight cheste they can influence only that term if they get 2/3 majority - external ga undi fight cheste they have a longer term influence irrespective of how govt.s change:-)

Also , people equate politicians with corruption - so they trust someone not aspiring for power more than someone who puts their hat in the ring for the highest office in the country:-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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rajakeeya nayakulu lage typical ga prajala emotions tho aadukuntunnaru anthE....

labor janam oka daniki voogite ....
middle class oka daniki voogutaaru..
rich class inko daniki voogutaaru....

each pool ki oka tap jesevaadu dorukutaaadu....

Lokpal bill GOAL is divine,very good........ but its OVERKILL.... expecting literal magic from rotten system...step by step democratic approach undaali

i am clean, make everyone report to me....it makes nation clean

drrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...it wont work sir
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Onlytruth:

Jagan & kanimozhi can bring thousands of people IMMEDIATELY who are ready to die for them...


vaallani public anaru. henchmen/followers antaaru. jagan ni arrest cheste desam mottam ratri puta bayataki vachi protest chestara

Onlytruth:

party pettamanandi aayana team ni......35% votes vaste power Jokepal team dhe


RTI bill kosam fight chesina NGOs ki kuda same salaha na. 35% is not enough to pass a bill. and people like bob and jagan will spend money against them and win.
ANNA HAZARE nakoduku desaniki jesina droham ento very shortly andariki ardham autundhi - OT
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for me KCR = HAZARE ...in "blackmail tactics"

India lo hazare ki unna % support, Telangana lo KCR ki definite ga undhi

inkaa KCR better democracy lo part ayyi....voting ki vellaadu Na pArty gelisthe telangana vasthundhi vote lu veyyandi ani...
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Onlytruth:


Mahila bill moodu rojullo approve jeyyaali ani kiran bedi hungerstrike jesthE ?

parliament approve jeyyala vaddhaa ?




Pakkana thread lo already post chesanu, it is not the hungerstrike but public opinion that forced govt. Election lo public opinion should be paramount-then public has no say for 5 years ante elaga ?

MAhila bill e kadu, e bill ki aina - anta public support unte, and as long as it does not violate the constitutional rights of individual or groups , it should be discussed and passed.

The only thing a hugerstrike does is to force immediate action, instead of letting it be pushed to the backburner :-)
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India needs musraof
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meeru cheppinatte desam anthaa atani venuka unte peddhayanaki INDIA motthaanni change cheyadaniki intha kanna manchi scope ledhu...

party pettamanandi aayana team ni......35% votes vaste power Jokepal team dhe


democracy lo part ayyi, win ayyite.....okka corruption enti ???? DESANNI ANNI RANGAALLO MARCHEYYOCHU


party pedite peddha party lani vodinchadam kashtam ani kaburlu cheppakandi....congress/bjp cannot kill/kick voters if voters inclince towards jokepal team...right ?


ENTIRE NATION HAZARE TEAM VENUKA UNTE 35% votes techukolera ?
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public support lekapothe emautundho proven in history
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Jagan & kanimozhi can bring thousands of people IMMEDIATELY who are ready to die for them.........so public support is a wrong parameter in Indian environment

We have a system...if u think it is NOT working...fix it.....

Super Layer every time is not a solution


CBI , CVC, CAG ivi anni different levels of established check points to fight corruption..................Jokepal comittee want all of above report to them
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n what position did MK Gandhi fought against British for independence ?
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i explained this few days back.............. Britishers were not elected by indians && that was NOT a democratic system/govt at that time
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Onlytruth:

who is anna hazare ?.... i did not ask him to represent me.... i have people voted by me...and elected

ikkada I ante nenu kaadhu....OKA INDIAN



in what position did MK Gandhi fought against British for independence ?
why are you enjoying that independence now ?
AH also oka Gandheya vaadhi , Razesh cheppinattu nuvu kooda AH laaga kommekki koosthe guarantee ga janalu ninnu choostharu follow autharu that is the beauty of democratic India
Lets create a corruption-free India

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prajalaki kavalsina korikalu, manchi jarigevi chaala vunnaayi BILL ga raaavalsinavi


desabiki manchi road lu important...contractors politicians kalisi minimum 30% tineyyadam valla quality leka naasi road lu padutunnayi........... lokpal comitte ye enduku solution deeniki ??

Jokepal comittee veyyandi nenu cheif ga....entire india Road Construction work naa comittee nE allocate jesthundhi contractors ki transperant & clean bidding process thru.......... quality check kuda jokepal comittee members ye jesthaaru

3 days time....bill approve cheyandi
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lokpal is kind of parallel govt which will effect our NATION in future. pakistan lo ilantide ISI anedi vachhi mottam pakistan nation ee nasanam chesindi.

lokpal aim/goal manchidhe but approach/points ee BAD. ee lokapl valla enta manchi jarugutundi anedi time will decide

rest jai anna hazare
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Onlytruth:

Mahila bill moodu rojullo approve jeyyaali ani kiran bedi hungerstrike jesthE ?


you already know this but you wont accept it because if you do you have nothing to argue about
govt digi vachindi aa AH ni chusi kaadhu AH ki unna public support chusi
same with KCR
same with anyone who does a hunger strike
public support lekapothe emautundho proven in history
http://www.bharatwaves.com/portal/uploads/original_babu_4d0e a7e1e020c.jpg
ANNA HAZARE nakoduku desaniki jesina droham ento very shortly andariki ardham autundhi - OT
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Onlytruth:


who is anna hazare ?.... i did not ask him to represent me.... i have people voted by me...and elected

ikkada I ante nenu kaadhu....OKA INDIAN




You are right, Anna did not start the fight because you asked him. He started the fight because he thought it was right and millions came into the streets to join him because they thought it was right. They empowered him to speak on their behalf :-) Like it or not, he has their mandate and is their representative now.
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Pelli ki mundhu mogudu pellaam iddariki aids test jeyyaali ...aa certificates peditene marraige certificates issue jeyyali ani PWG sandhya akka nirahara deeksha jesthundhi....24 hrs time

MARI BILL PASS JEYYALA VADDHAA ?
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Onlytruth:

who is anna hazare ?.


evaro teluskokunda e discussion deniki annai?
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ANAND_N ,

Mahila bill moodu rojullo approve jeyyaali ani kiran bedi hungerstrike jesthE ?

parliament approve jeyyala vaddhaa ?
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Na Bongulo democracy..vesedhi 60% votulu..andulo sagam mandhi kula gajji tho..sagam mandi dabbu..liquor ki voting
>>>>>>>>>

exactly....anduke aa remaining 30% voting important (10% cannot vote for diff reasons)

memu medhavulam voting ki raamu ante elaa ?





>>>>>>>>>
What qualifications do you need
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who is anna hazare ?.... i did not ask him to represent me.... i have people voted by me...and elected

ikkada I ante nenu kaadhu....OKA INDIAN
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Again Problem is accepted

Onlytruth:

american and few europian democratic systems are well matured..manam vaatini target ga pettukovali ..anthe gaani tv lu twitter lu chusi anna hazare ani voogite emostundhi ?



USA is like 500 Yr + Democracy , anduke akkada civil liberties tight ...all section have a DaMaSha % ...we are 64 Yrs we need to Beat USA in democracy ante we need more participative democracy

Onlytruth:

sad to see entire generation of youth are blindly falling for hazare team's moral dictatorship



Yeah they are like 45% ( < 30 yrs I guess ) Live with it

Onlytruth:

cricket match finals win ainappati unity aa temporary madness...aa opportunity to exhibit so called patriotism......aa bhavajalame neti uth/medhavi batch hazare lanti valla venuka blind ga padutunnaru




No now a days awareness is also coming here & there ...Mind u Even America needed a Superman .. we need 1 too ... :D
YSR is to politics what Veerappan is to a forest. NTR lo enno faults unodchu kaani i think he was much more responsible with public money- Sanman >>I am 420
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SHANTI BHUSHAN bribe offer CD true ani ivvala telindhi...mari vaadu hazare team lo top 3 or 5 lo okadu.....

adhi kuda ento telusa supremecourt judge ni nenu manage jesthaa ani money dealing set jesukuntoo dorikaadu vaadu

Lokpal comittee lo ilaanti valle untaaru end of the day.....LOKPAL comittee ante india lo most income unde post autundhi locally, state wide, india wide kuda ekkadikakkada

sare clean personalities definite untaaru..... vaallani tappu pattatledhu.... vallu PARLIAMENTARY vyavatha lo part n part avvaali


anthe gani

memu educated andi....medhavulam andiii politics ki dooram ani koorchuni

naaku super police character ivvandi ...chinchesthaa ante elaa ?
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a) Supremecourt judge paina Lokpal comittee ki complaint jeyyochu, Lokpal comittee case file jestundhi
b) Lokpal comittee members paina SC judges ki complain jeyyochu...SC vicharana jesthundhi....



minister police ni transfer cheyochu. police minister ni arrest cheyochu. adho loop aa. judge laki traffic tickets rakudadha nuvvu cheppe daanni batti judge traffic police ki uri siksha vesthada ticket isthe


Onlytruth:

1700 crores per year kaavali lokpal bill implementation ki


it will be self sufficient. for the amount of money lokpal and lokayukta will recover aa amount ooka lo eeka. and imagine the number of new jobs with that money with 0 expenditure to tax payer.

Onlytruth:

problem entantE ivi anni anni cases lonu inthE impartial ga pani jeyyatledhu....


endukante acb cbi police all have to take instructions from leading party. JLP doesnt

Onlytruth:


why do we want another layer of checkpoint ?


because people like bob and jagan are still roaming on streets
ANNA HAZARE nakoduku desaniki jesina droham ento very shortly andariki ardham autundhi - OT
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Onlytruth:

ANNA HAZARE MOVEMENT is nothing but Moral dictatorship




Better than family dynasties anukunta:-)

Onlytruth:


asalu meerevarraaa babu ? society lo mee place enti ? any proven stats ?




What qualifications do you need - election lo contest cheyyataniki leni requirements veellaki enduku vachayi ? Isn't being a citizen of the country enough ?

Onlytruth:

maa jilla lo maa rasthram lo mee taatha laanti vallu unnaaru voorlani bagu jesinavallu



Good - these are the kind of people who you should nominate to those committees:-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Na Bongulo democracy..vesedhi 60% votulu..andulo sagam mandhi kula gajji tho..sagam mandi dabbu..liquor ki voting

atuvanti naa M lo democracy ki oka black day..danni kapadalantu oogiothu postlu..baaga kasTam ga unnattundi

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american and few europian democratic systems are well matured..manam vaatini target ga pettukovali ..anthe gaani tv lu twitter lu chusi anna hazare ani voogite emostundhi ?

sad to see entire generation of youth are blindly falling for hazare team's moral dictatorship

cricket match finals win ainappati unity aa temporary madness...aa opportunity to exhibit so called patriotism......aa bhavajalame neti uth/medhavi batch hazare lanti valla venuka blind ga padutunnaru
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Still people are discussing about version 1.
After that ver 1.1,1.2,......1.8,.... were released. Currently I think latest version is 2.2.
There is no use of finding the faults in older versions. After broader consultation, many changes are done to its first version.

In the latest negotiation, judiciary was not part of (jan)lokpal bill as there is separate Judiciary accountability bill is ready at the standing committe.
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Lokpal lo IAS ips lani veyyali.. top rankers ni..
>>>>>>>

why IAS,IPS layer 2 to monitor IAS,IPS layer 1 ?
our goal should be to make things work at layer 1 itself

Konda etthi naa netthina pedite easy ga mosesthaanu annadanta evado anna hazare lanti vaadu
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Onlytruth:

problem entantE ivi anni anni cases lonu inthE impartial ga pani jeyyatledhu....chesthe ipudunna checkpoints,,,ippudunna layers MORE THAN ENOUGH

why do we want another layer of checkpoint




Black Box Testing VS Functional Testing(no Bugs)
edi prefer sesthav ??
YSR is to politics what Veerappan is to a forest. NTR lo enno faults unodchu kaani i think he was much more responsible with public money- Sanman >>I am 420
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Senapathy:


Ee thread lo OT kula gajji ekada chupettadu..

Discuss on the point...
Except for the uncontrolled and misguided mind, there is no enemy in this world!!!
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jagan tappu jesado ledho assalu discuss cheyyoddhu manam...ee thread topic ye divert aipotundhi.....he did everything with lot of caution OR best cautions....still if every system started working as it is supposed to....antha mahaa powerful manishi paristhiti ela undhi ? SOUTHINDIA's most powerful political clout Karuna's family paristhithi enti ?

problem entantE ivi anni anni cases lonu inthE impartial ga pani jeyyatledhu....chesthe ipudunna checkpoints,,,ippudunna layers MORE THAN ENOUGH

why do we want another layer of checkpoint ?

panee paata leni TV chusE batch ki rehabiliation centre ee lokpal comittee
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Onlytruth:

1700 crores per year kaavali lokpal bill implementation ki



To save 1 lac crores of corruption every year thruout the country...To bring accountability in every dept...To improve the quality of life India...and to add new jobs created due to Lokpal...
1700 crores kaadu 2000 crores poyina parledu...
The interest we can get on 1 lac crores saved is much more...U know dude...
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ANna hazare demands ki parliament talavoggadam anedhi praja vijayam ani meeru antunnaaru.... democracy ki dark day ani naa lanti valla opinion

Parliament mottham oka medhavi varganiki enduku bali ayyindhi ?

INDIA UNDER DICTATORSHIP...
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Onlytruth:

ANNA HAZARE MOVEMENT is nothing but Moral dictatorship




For me its just an Indian Citizen fighting for civil liberty in a David vs Goliath , I did not care what Jan Lok Pal was or is ??

ALL I say is Middle Class/IT and Hardworking Industrialist are quite Pixssed of wth corruption ..its resulting in Inflation and more corruption ( given discount of tax defaulters & Fake notes)
YSR is to politics what Veerappan is to a forest. NTR lo enno faults unodchu kaani i think he was much more responsible with public money- Sanman >>I am 420
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I140:

Lokpal lo IAS ips lani veyyali.. top rankers ni.. .




Ind lo ekkuva corrupt veele ee IAS and IPS so..

pindi koddi rote type lo.. power ni batti dochestunnaru janam..
enta manchi post lo unte anta nokestunnadu..
OT's own dialog: Pativrate kaani, gokite vastundi
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ANNA HAZARE MOVEMENT is nothing but Moral dictatorship

asalu meerevarraaa babu ? society lo mee place enti ? any proven stats ?

dont tell me ralegav siddhi..... maa jilla lo maa rasthram lo mee taatha laanti vallu unnaaru voorlani bagu jesinavallu
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That is why said.. Any good system will fail when it is implemented by corrupted people..

Lokpal lo IAS ips lani veyyali.. top rankers ni.. .
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ki sigguntE




Kula Gajji tho posts ese nuvvu siggi gurichi maatladithe vitha gaa undhi
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nanni lokpal chief seyandi...nalug rallu enakesukunta
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Onlytruth:

SI lu corrupted.....SI paina "lokpal SI" ni vesthe problem solve aaa ?

Ten yrs aagi "Lokpal SI" paina "JOKEPAL SI" kaavali ani strike jeddhama candles veliginchi ?



can we make People like JP,Kiran Bedi,Amir Khans, Om puris etc as this Lokpal ambedkars ...
what ever if SI is Corrupt one more Corrupted Lokpal SI whats the Harm ...
all we need to see is Wealth is not created just by

man power - Max Corruption X polarized society Poverty & Rich
YSR is to politics what Veerappan is to a forest. NTR lo enno faults unodchu kaani i think he was much more responsible with public money- Sanman >>I am 420
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Lopal lo kuda corrupt unte, appudu problem etla solve avtundi. CBI< Vigilance etc departments panine kada Lokpal undertake chesthundi. Andulo unde janaalu salaried aa leka BCCI lo chairman type lo free posts aa.
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CAG but YSR used to laff at it vehemently ...does it have sanctity
>>>>>>>>>
since CAG is powerless, YSR/CBN laughed at it.............give powers to CAG....they will shut these politicians asses

instead what we are doing ? LOKPAL - a super bosss .....daivam....god...
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SI lu corrupted.....SI paina "lokpal SI" ni vesthe problem solve aaa ?

Ten yrs aagi "Lokpal SI" paina "JOKEPAL SI" kaavali ani strike jeddhama candles veliginchi ?
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Onlytruth:

.do not fool the democracy




What democracy we have 45% Pseudo secular Pseudo Male Dominated Pseudo Caste fanatic Kaamchor Country ...where is democracy same law is applied to 2 different people differently ...forget abt anythings Perfectness :D but do we evolve or try to ??
YSR is to politics what Veerappan is to a forest. NTR lo enno faults unodchu kaani i think he was much more responsible with public money- Sanman >>I am 420
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http://info.worldbank.org/etools/docs/library/35971/mod04.pd f
http://vajrapani.sulekha.com/blog/post/2007/04/root-cause-of -corruption-in-india.htm
http://wadias.in/site/arzan/blog/root-cause-of-corruption/
2-3 top links in google might give some idea ...
See if Ambedkar did not write Constitution how could we Administered in 1950's
ok you say CAG but YSR used to laff at it vehemently ...does it have sanctity ...
If you Run Govt Like a Corporate then CAG should have solved all problems ...
YSR is to politics what Veerappan is to a forest. NTR lo enno faults unodchu kaani i think he was much more responsible with public money- Sanman >>I am 420
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Each Department has a vigilance wing, which is manned by officials from the same department
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

JO JO JO JOKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ..... Lokpal comittee membership will become much coveted post in INDIA..... SI post voorlallo entha income source vo , idhi anthE......u morons...do not fool the democracy
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already lokayuktha lu vunnaaru with different levels of power in each state , Central vigilance comission undhi.... CAG undhi.... CBI anti corruption wing undhi...

vatini foolproof ga teerchi diddhutaara leka srushti ki pratisrushti jesthaam ani maaya maatalu cheptaara ? hazare team ki sigguntE existing system ni elaa cleanup jeyyaalo suggest jeyyandi

Brandnews super layer vesesthE elaa clean up aipotundhi ?
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Oka idea mee jeevethanni marchesthundi..
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but Hazare is a good man
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asalu ee lokpal ane concept ye sodhi....it's a bloody joke
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OK Let me put this way
what is the ROOT cause of Corruption

A. Its in our blood we will do it no matter what
B. System is left with loop holes
C. Caste
D. Unless we become Super Power .
E. Politicians & Judiciary & Bureaucracy & Middle Class & Voting System
F. None
G. Other


Why that I used to be within limit in driving in USA ,After coming to India Still Jumping Signals ....Isnt it the System ..
if every one is obeying System, I will Isnt that Simple :D
YSR is to politics what Veerappan is to a forest. NTR lo enno faults unodchu kaani i think he was much more responsible with public money- Sanman >>I am 420
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Onlytruth:

1700 crores per year kaavali lokpal bill implementation ki





How was this number estimated?
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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jagan meedha aundhi ippudu hazare meedha paddava?
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1700 crores per year kaavali lokpal bill implementation ki
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you are kindaling an Idea which is Practically 1 month old baby ... it will grow like a 16 Yrs Boy in next 3-5 see :D

Can You Suggest any better way/fastest way /reliable way other than CBI/ACB/ED.

NO I mean we cannot let Corruption be legalized can we OT ?


YSR is to politics what Veerappan is to a forest. NTR lo enno faults unodchu kaani i think he was much more responsible with public money- Sanman >>I am 420
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Selection comittee, search comittee (both r different) process chudandi



* The 10 members and the chairperson of Jan Lokpal will be selected by a Selection Committee that would comprise of the PM, Leader of the opposition in Lok Sabha, two youngest judges of Supreme Court (SC), two youngest Chief Justices of High Courts, Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG) and the Chief Election Commissioner (CEC). The Selection Committee will make the above appointment from a pool of shortlisted candidates that has been identified by a âSearch Committeeâ.

** The âSearch Committeeâ is a 10-member committee formed as follows: First, the Selection Committee selects five members from retired Chief Election Commissioners and retired CAGs. However those CECs and CAGs who have any substantive allegation of corruption against them or who have joined any political party after retirement or who are still in any government appointment shall not be eligible. These 5 members will then select another 5 members from the civil society to make the 10-member Search Committee.


*** The Search Committee will invite recommendations from various eminent people (like journalists, academics, etc). These names will be put up on a website and public feedback invited. The search committee will then, by consensus, choose 3 times the number of vacancies. This list will be forwarded to the Selection Committee which will then make final selections through consensus.

**** All meetings of the Search Committee and Selection Committee shall be video recorded and will be made public.


***** Jan Lokpal and Jan Lokayukta will then select and appoint its own officers and staff.





J O K E R S
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Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 03:33 pm:   Insert Quote Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There are dozens of funny and mindless thoughts put in Jan Lokpal bill...let us discuss one by one...

1)
a) Supremecourt judge paina Lokpal comittee ki complaint jeyyochu, Lokpal comittee case file jestundhi

b) Lokpal comittee members paina SC judges ki complain jeyyochu...SC vicharana jesthundhi....

entayya ee infite loop ??

2) Public offices unna vallu tama job taamu sarigga jestaro ledho anE judiciary system ni extra layer of protection/check point kinda mana constitution adhikaralu ichina courts ki... Ippudu Judges ni lokpal jurisdiction loki tevalanta....lol

inko five years aagi LOKPAL comittee paina 4th layer MENTALPAL bill pettalaa ?

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