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Indiarocks
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Vijay77:

Government and oppositions are not interested to include above points. But still some intellectuals think that government agreed 90% of ANNA demands.

Everyone's mentality is that Bhagath singth should be born to clean the system but he shouldn't be born in my family (JP Quote). Anna came forward but few are not giving moral support.




The JanLokpal agitation has become a circus now. Literally there is a small scale circus going on at Ramlila maidan with a girl walking on a rope holding a pole in her hand. Is that how you handle a serious agitation?

Half of those shouting for Anna don't know what they are shouting for.

If Kiran Bedi can spend half of the time she spends on twitter, and standing in the middle of the stage and waving the national flag to educate the gathering, the agitation will have some meaning.
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Gandhiguevara:

IAS acronym kadhaa...spelling emuntundhi?



kuppam state loo top 10 loo untundi development loo - Risingstar
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Humpty_dumpty:

ower middle class, poor, rural lo JP kee manchi appeal ledhu




appeal ante enti?
elaa gelustaadu ani evaroo discus cheyyatam ledhu ikkada...geliste super ga chestaaru ani matrame discus chestunnam...

YSR lantodiki too good appeal vundhi masses lo...em labham...prajalaku vorigindhi enti? janal ki freebies ichesi intlo putolu ettinchukunnadu... kani longterm lo janalki vupayogapade pani okkati ayinaa sesaadaa?

idhenaa nuvvu seppe appeal? janal vote esaaru kabatti he is number one ane metta vedhantham mana lanti 'educated' kuda cheste inka illeterates ni question chese hakku manaki lenatte...
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Cocanada:

He is like the techie who doesn't answer the business question




Wrong
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Vijay77
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One of the gratest bill from government is Right to Information Act(RTI). This is one of the POWERFUL tools that would change entire Indian Syatem.

People have very short memory and forgot Anna's contribution on RTI and his fast.

On 20 July 2006 the Union Cabinet amended the Right to Information Act 2005 to exclude the file noting by the government officials from its purview. Hazare began his fast unto death on 9 August 2006 in Alandi against the proposed amendment. He ended his fast on 19 August 2006, after the government agreed to change its earlier decision.

That was the cruel act from government to make dent to RTI act. Because of anna, now anyone can be able to get the information from any government office.
We are all owe to Anna on this.
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Indiarocks:

Aina IAS spelling theliyani medhavulu


IAS acronym kadhaa...spelling emuntundhi?
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Senapathy:

I am surprised this comment comes from you. U disappoint me yaa..




why re.. somehow naaku JP meeda nammakam illio.. dont know why..
knowledgeable kaani imkplement cheyaledu ani naa strong feeling of Ind
OT's own dialog: Pativrate kaani, gokite vastundi
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Government acted in the same way how it handled Ramdev. First it seemed to accept major demands and finally they created an impression that Ramdev was too adamant and sidetracked ALL of his demands. Same tactics were applied here also. Initially they created an atmosphere like they agreed everything and finally they choreographed with opposition and entire bill was taken back. Now everything came to square one. Now they will start preparing the bill from scratch and they never promised that whole exercise will be completed before next session.

Government still wants to create a lokpal bill in this manner:

Lower bureaucracy is not included. (So common man's problems cannot be addressed. There is no chance for a common man to file a complaint against any corrupted official like ration card, birth certificate, traffic police, hospital, pensions, government offices etc).

Lokayuktha is not integrated with Lokpal. So state government officials do not come under lokpal/lokayuktha. Whenever the rules of lokayuktha is dictated by state government, then corruption cannot be eradicated. We need one ANNA for each state.

No Whistleblower's protection. Last year 10-20 RTI activists are MURDERED, even there are some provisions in RTI. When whistle blowers are not there in lokpal, then there is no question of their protection.

Finally government lokapal will be useful for the government to investigate on the officers who are not favorable to politician's interest.

When you can't complain on someone(lower buerocracy not included), when you don't know how to complain(public grevience mechanism), no guarantee to your life(whistle blower protection), when you don't know when it will be solved(citizen chater) then there is no use of lokpal bill for a common man.

Government and oppositions are not interested to include above points. But still some intellectuals think that government agreed 90% of ANNA demands.

Everyone's mentality is that Bhagath singth should be born to clean the system but he shouldn't be born in my family (JP Quote). Anna came forward but few are not giving moral support.
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sometihng is missing in him.

He is like the techie who doesn't answer the business question
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bunty kee enduku d'glu eduthunaaru
what he is saying is not entirely false
lower middle class, poor, rural lo JP kee manchi appeal ledhu
his principles and the ground reality of the that section's expectations do not blend...
without winning over masses you cannot rule the state...
of coz LSP kurrol illiterates nee pedhaga pattinchukoru unlike bunty...:D
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Bunty717:

state ki rule chese antaa talent ayite def gaa ledu..




Nee dash.. I am surprised this comment comes from you. U disappoint me yaa..
I am struck by the lightning of love and burnt beyond repair - Florentino Ariza
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Bunty717:

state ki rule chese antaa talent ayite def gaa ledu..




looks like u are expecting some mass leader like NTR, YSR.... vaallatho pavala vupayogam ledhu... JP lantollu chala chala inkaa chala better veella kanna
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Bunty717:

state ki rule chese antaa talent ayite def gaa ledu..


State ni rule cheyyalante, manishiki emi vundali... knowledge... vati meeda dedication/command/grip vundali... avanni pushkalma ga vunnayi... mari nuvvu cheputhunna aa talent endi lenidi... JP daggara...
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Jan Lokpal is too extreme to implement...
Govt proposed lokpal is too little...

in between ga JP proposal is very good.... basically JP is pressing on Local govt Lokayuktha powers... just adding PM to lokpal does not do wonders... anduke JP says lets implement state level Lokpal also which can prosecute all except CM,Governor..
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Nsk9876:

Anna... idi nijam ga mana desa dowrbhagyam... em cheyyalemu...




anta ledu le.. alaa ayite MLA and MP ki min qualification IAS IPS ani etevaaru..
JP uncle konchem OA chestaadu .. atani knowledge ni q chese anta scene manaki
illio kaani.. state ki rule chese antaa talent ayite def gaa ledu..
TN Seshan type.. chadam /rules ramanujam type..
ee pani avanivvadu.. lite
OT's own dialog: Pativrate kaani, gokite vastundi
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Indiarocks:

Aina IAS spelling theliyani medhavulu vachi JP em chesadu ani asking.


Anna... idi nijam ga mana desa dowrbhagyam... em cheyyalemu...
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it doesnt matter whose version is implemented. all of their merits outweigh their shortcomings. what the govt (and opposition) will try to do is cut the fangs of each one of them and neutralize it.
even if one of these bills is passed as is, they will be underfunded and amended to make them useless
as long as public keep sending morons into assembly and parliament and keep rubbing their wishing toys nothing is going to change
JLP might reduce corruption but how about other parts of govt responsibilities like law and order, national security, inflation etc
the same people the bill is intended against are responsible for all of them
oka vastuvu ae reethilo undaalo aa vidham gaa undaali - balayya
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http://www.gulte.com/index.php?Andhra-Political-News=brahmi- bazare-new-sensation-in-fb--funy-pic&page=news_updates&link= 10955
Rajanna Amar Hai.
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Bunty717:

JP ver baguledu.. naku nachaledu..


Arial font unte baundedantava?
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Idle_yzag:

http://www.loksatta.org/cms/documents/lokpal/LokpalBill_LSan dFDRposition.pdf




JP ver baguledu.. naku nachaledu..
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Yesterday night around 2:00AM watched the PM live giving a speech in the Parliament that Dr. JP's good amendments, ideas on the Lokpal will be discussed in the Parliament, along with Jan Lokpal, and Aruna Roy's version.

Aina IAS spelling theliyani medhavulu vachi JP em chesadu ani asking.
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Idle_yzag:

jayprakash narayn version


sakshathu saraswathi devi ki puttadu JP

keka..
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http://www.loksatta.org/cms/documents/lokpal/LokpalBill_LSan dFDRposition.pdf
RahulGandhi/JP/Chiru
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1 month back seppad edhoo interview loo great
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Thammud JLP and JP Bill kill difference ento konchem seppandi...
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All versions of Lok pal bills - govt, JLP bill, aruna roy version, jayprakash narayn version to be debated in parliament tomorrow


RahulGandhi/JP/Chiru

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