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//it needs a Yes/No solution. sri krishna committee esaru. assembly lo bill edataaru //

bongem kadhu. adhoka situation malli daaniki yes or no. its just a blackmail vudhyamam by some unemployed politicians. media, opposition andharu evariki kavalsinattu vaallu vaadukunnaru.

why he should say yes or no . yes is good to hear for T people. No is good for SA people. but actually noone is thinking which is good. so even he answers that question noone is ready to take it.when they are ready he will answer.
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ne bathukki eppudanna villages or poor ppl daggira ...valu pade patlu choosava? voorka lafadalodi.....memu gaani educate ani egesukuni vachestharu...janalaki comment cheyyataniki.... bochulo education ..naya paisa ki use kaadu....




nee bathukento ee thread lo nee posts choostene telustondi. ABCDlu teliyavu, vachi judgementlu icheyadam.

Aina mohaniki rangu vesukuni dancelu vesevadu leader ani guddalu chinchukune vallatho discussion waste.
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By providing employment. WE have a serious dearth of skilled labor. 5th, 6th pass aina kooda, simple training leka jobs leni vallu 1000s lo unnaru.




You must be kidding....we have 1 billion population in India...and akkada jobs leka janalu migrate avuthunaru vere countries ki..


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arogyasri manaki unna fatal health issues lo entha cover chestundi telusa?Less than 2%.

So, first you try to educate yourself at least with basic information. Then judge ppl. Asalu basics teliyakunda vachi pedarayudu teerpulu isthe time bokka thappa em undadu.




2% anna benefit avuthunnaru kada?? 0% kante better aa kaada? ne bathukki eppudanna villages or poor ppl daggira ...valu pade patlu choosava? voorka lafadalodi.....memu gaani educate ani egesukuni vachestharu...janalaki comment cheyyataniki.... bochulo education ..naya paisa ki use kaadu....

u guys are dumb...and u will never understand ppl problems...period...
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Saint:

tell them how can u feed thier stomach..how can u solve their problems in layman terms...hifi stuff lekka tv munduki vachi speeches itchi samajam maratam ledu ante enduku marathaaru??


peda vadi kadupu ela nimputhav ane daniki JP daggira answer ledu... free rice schemes vundajudadu...free money ivvakudadu...mari ela solve chesthadu valla aakali badhalu??




By providing employment. WE have a serious dearth of skilled labor. 5th, 6th pass aina kooda, simple training leka jobs leni vallu 1000s lo unnaru. Only LSP kukatpally office has provided employment to about 3000 people by providing training, and mediating with companies. All this in just 2yrs.

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arogya sree, free education..etc pathakalu real gaane chala mandiki use inavi...




arogyasri manaki unna fatal health issues lo entha cover chestundi telusa?Less than 2%.

So, first you try to educate yourself at least with basic information. Then judge ppl. Asalu basics teliyakunda vachi pedarayudu teerpulu isthe time bokka thappa em undadu.
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reservations meeda edichi gaggolu pette dbers vunnaru....root problems address cheyyakunda adi teeseyyali..idi teeseyyali ani fashion ipoyindi...ee so called medhavulaki....
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Ppl ki teach chestaru. Money theesukuni vote veyakandi, free rice ante mosapokandi ani.Appudu janalu andaru adey ante inka vote evariki veyali ani adugutharu. Most of the middle class that does not vote gives this particular reason - andaru vedhavale. Appudu evaro okaru responsibility theeskovali kada to provide good politics.

Politics is not bad, only politicians are.




full money vunchukuni... money tesukuni vote ese vaadiki cheppochu....konukkogala sthomatha vundi...free rice ki asapaduthunte cheppochu...

indian voters has 60 years of experience with these f'ing politicians...atleast elections appudu anna money...free stuff vasthadi ani aasa padatharu....

tell them how can u feed thier stomach..how can u solve their problems in layman terms...hifi stuff lekka tv munduki vachi speeches itchi samajam maratam ledu ante enduku marathaaru??


peda vadi kadupu ela nimputhav ane daniki JP daggira answer ledu... free rice schemes vundajudadu...free money ivvakudadu...mari ela solve chesthadu valla aakali badhalu??



YSR free bees valla real gaa benefit pondinva vallu leru anukuntunnava?? there are lakhs of poor ppl who got benefited....arogya sree, free education..etc pathakalu real gaane chala mandiki use inavi...

health, education, food eee moodu free gaa prajalaki ivvatam lo thappemi ledu...Govt shud help poor ppl...
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Entikaburlu:

dude - get your loopy logic straight-

all other parties exist only to come into power. if you want to be in that camp, do what they do.

if you want to only teach people, don't be in that rotten bunch. their goals and your goals do not match. unnecessarily you will be seen as also ran. it reduces your effectiveness.




Annai meede loopy logic.

Ppl ki teach chestaru. Money theesukuni vote veyakandi, free rice ante mosapokandi ani.Appudu janalu andaru adey ante inka vote evariki veyali ani adugutharu. Most of the middle class that does not vote gives this particular reason - andaru vedhavale. Appudu evaro okaru responsibility theeskovali kada to provide good politics.

Politics is not bad, only politicians are.
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Indiarocks:

Anni parties cheat chestunte alternative choopinchadda?




dude - get your loopy logic straight-

all other parties exist only to come into power. if you want to be in that camp, do what they do.

if you want to only teach people, don't be in that rotten bunch. their goals and your goals do not match. unnecessarily you will be seen as also ran. it reduces your effectiveness.
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Entikaburlu:

deeniki party, elections lo contest cheyadam enduku?




Anni parties cheat chestunte alternative choopinchadda?
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Indiarocks:

We need a leader to tell ppl how the game should be actually played. Tell ppl the actual rules of the game. How their vote is more valuable than the 1000Rs they get. JP is doing exactly the same.




deeniki party, elections lo contest cheyadam enduku?
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Entikaburlu:

You are saying JP is a Coach/Team manager, not a batsman. Then why is he contesting elections, rather coming to bat?




Let me put it this way. A politician pays 1000Rs per vote to win. The gullible voter thinks that the politician is doing him a favor. Now, since the politician spends 1000Rs per vote, he needs to be corrupt to get back his investment, and capital to re-invest in the next election.

Now, based on the AP Govt's budget, each citizen's share is 2lakhs+. The politician is eating away several times of the 1000Rs he is paying the voter. This has been going on for decades.

So this is not fast bowling, or batting, but cheating.

We need a leader to tell ppl how the game should be actually played. Tell ppl the actual rules of the game. How their vote is more valuable than the 1000Rs they get. JP is doing exactly the same.
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Indiarocks:

JP is a leader, rest all are politicians.




You are saying JP is a Coach/Team manager, not a batsman. Then why is he contesting elections, rather coming to bat?
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Entikaburlu:

but they produce results! I want to play cricket, but I dont like fast bowling or sledging ante etta? your opponent will do that..




Bro, there is a basic difference in how you approach politics, and how JP does. For you, politics is a race, a match, in which you do everything to win. For JP it is not.

If only being successful in elections defines leadership then Gandhi is not a leader at all.

A good politician will be successful in politics, but he need not be a leader.

JP is a leader, rest all are politicians.
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Indiarocks:


IR please give these suggestions to JP next time you meet him
1)Burn a bus
2)Beat a few people on camera
3)Do a fast with special arrangements in bathroom(ask kcr and bob for tips)
4)visit a LSP leader in prison. if there arent any, ask an LSP leader to kill a congress leader and go to prison.

these will make people take notice of him as a strong and dependable leader
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Indiarocks:

JP provided more solutions, that are sustainable, and long term, to the common man's problems than any politician.
Mee definition lo solution ante nela ki oka 500Rs panchu, 2Rs ki kg rice ivvu. Alanti bandaid solution ichesi adey goppa ani cheppeskovadam.




but they produce results! I want to play cricket, but I dont like fast bowling or sledging ante etta? your opponent will do that..
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People are here for solutions. Not for process improvement. With it's varied cultures and vast regional/social group differences, Indian democracy is in it's infancy state. Ippudu jP politics ki time kadhu. Current leader nammakamu Kaligisthene great.




JP provided more solutions, that are sustainable, and long term, to the common man's problems than any politician.

Mee definition lo solution ante nela ki oka 500Rs panchu, 2Rs ki kg rice ivvu. Alanti bandaid solution ichesi adey goppa ani cheppeskovadam.
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People are here for solutions. Not for process improvement. With it's varied cultures and vast regional/social group differences, Indian democracy is in it's infancy state. Ippudu jP politics ki time kadhu. Current leader nammakamu Kaligisthene great.


JP completely lacks the guts. There is a difference between manager and leader. A visionary and executioner. A good project manager can't win new business he can increase his account.

That's the problem with jP. Tell me where he has a string opinion and said this is howthis should be done
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Entikaburlu:

look around the world. we are literally in the middle of history making. what happened in Egypt, Libya, Syria, etc are bookmarks in history. study them. what and how they came about. any single leader, or is it a swarm? then follow the strategy.




All bad examples. India is a functioning democracy, those are not. JP is trying to define history, not follow somebody.

Entikaburlu:

Goal should be so simple, it should be understandable without explaining. Since he started a party, it is fair to assume, his goal is to come into power. That's what everybody understands. Isn't it simple enough?

So, now my question is - show me a proof or prior example, where a 3rd force came into power. Even NTR was effectively 2nd force. Not 3rd force.

Do not get me wrong please - I am questing JP's strategy, not JP's objectives or goals. BTW, I am not even an Indian Citizen, so my interest in this subject is merely observance.




I am not getting you wrong. You need to understand JP's objectives properly to question his strategy, that is all I am saying.

Anna Hazare my have an impulse of success today if the Jan Lokpal gets passed. But the politician holds the key to implementing it. You cannot expect MPs like Jagan adhere to the law, they will find ways around it. How many times can Anna fast? Anna only provides a temporary solution.
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Simpletruth:

A leader should carry his followers in the path he deems correct.


A leader doesn't need to carry his followers. He should set an example to his followers which JP is doing effectively. If some one in LP wants to involve in corruption, he'll think about it, the least before he indulges because he knows that his leader doesn't do it and will not encourage it. In case of parties like congress,TDP,YSRC, no one thinks/blinks before indulging in corruption as their leaders from top to down and corrupt in one way or the other.
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Indiarocks:

One's strategy depends on the goal, right?. So, all I am trying to say is that for one to judge the strategy, he/she should understand what the goal is. While I agree that becoming a 3rd force in our current voting system is very difficult, there is no other option.




Goal should be so simple, it should be understandable without explaining. Since he started a party, it is fair to assume, his goal is to come into power. That's what everybody understands. Isn't it simple enough?

So, now my question is - show me a proof or prior example, where a 3rd force came into power. Even NTR was effectively 2nd force. Not 3rd force.

Do not get me wrong please - I am questing JP's strategy, not JP's objectives or goals. BTW, I am not even an Indian Citizen, so my interest in this subject is merely observance.

what party anna hazare belongs to? ofcourse what he is doing is not easy, not repeatable, or perhaps not even planned.

look around the world. we are literally in the middle of history making. what happened in Egypt, Libya, Syria, etc are bookmarks in history. study them. what and how they came about. any single leader, or is it a swarm? then follow the strategy.
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Entikaburlu:

if I am not supporting his strategy, how can I explain it effectively?




I am not asking you to explain his strategy, I am talking about the JP's goal, or the "big thing"(in your words) he wants to achieve.
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JP is not a leader material.

A leader should carry his followers in the path he deems correct. JP does not have that capability. He is fit for us politics but will be failure for Indian politics.
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Entikaburlu:

the best bet for people like JP, to achieve something big, in my opinion, and all the political f* I have seen in my life in all these years is this:





Entikaburlu:

why do I need to explain, I am not a big supporter of JP strategy, if you did not get my drift. if I am not supporting his strategy, how can I explain it effectively?




One's strategy depends on the goal, right?. So, all I am trying to say is that for one to judge the strategy, he/she should understand what the goal is. While I agree that becoming a 3rd force in our current voting system is very difficult, there is no other option.
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Indiarocks:

Where am I attacking you? I only asked to elaborate on what you mean by changing the system.




why do I need to explain, I am not a big supporter of JP strategy, if you did not get my drift. if I am not supporting his strategy, how can I explain it effectively?
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Indiarocks:

Mundu nuvvu IAS spelling telsukunte appudu nenu waste cheskunta..





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Entikaburlu:

OK, then you tell or correct people. in politics, attacking an opponent gets zero reward. explaining gets you somewhere.

Fanism does not make JP succeed. Educate his detractors. that will help. and understand politics thoroughly before you choose a strategy. why did chiranjeevi fail? 3rd force. same with JP. Message may be different/better, but still a 3rd force or 4th force. so, you need to pick your strategy carefully.




Where am I attacking you? I only asked to elaborate on what you mean by changing the system.
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ooko annai...JP emayina pedda pista na..? Afterall a regular MLA...

Dippa meeda okati pekina case pettaledu ante Just a ruglar citizen...

By-elections lo poti cheyadu malli adoka party...dani gurunchi disco....Time bokka...




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nuvvu time waste chesukuntavu emo ..nenu chesukonu...




Thanks. Mundu nuvvu IAS spelling telsukunte appudu nenu waste cheskunta..
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The problem is you are not clear on what JP wants to achieve.



Except for the uncontrolled and misguided mind, there is no enemy in this world!!!
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Indiarocks:

very vague. Cleaning the system, and change can mean a lot of things.




OK, then you tell or correct people. in politics, attacking an opponent gets zero reward. explaining gets you somewhere.

Fanism does not make JP succeed. Educate his detractors. that will help. and understand politics thoroughly before you choose a strategy. why did chiranjeevi fail? 3rd force. same with JP. Message may be different/better, but still a 3rd force or 4th force. so, you need to pick your strategy carefully.

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ooko annai...JP emayina pedda pista na..? Afterall a regular MLA...

Dippa meeda okati pekina case pettaledu ante Just a ruglar citizen...

By-elections lo poti cheyadu malli adoka party...dani gurunchi disco....Time bokka...
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Indiarocks:

Ila vague gaa kaadu, oka 2 points vadulu em change chesta annado..



Indiarocks:

Don't want to waste my time with you.




nuvvu time waste chesukuntavu emo ..nenu chesukonu...
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Entikaburlu:

based on what I heard him say, he wants to clean the system and change the society




very vague. Cleaning the system, and change can mean a lot of things.
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Saint, What did he do to upset you?




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Indiarocks:

The problem is you are not clear on what JP wants to achieve.




based on what I heard him say, he wants to clean the system and change the society. For that he chose to fight the elections. the principles of political behavior science are telling that he cannot succeed as a 3rd force. so, what I am suggesting is another strategy with prior examples.

where is the problem?
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Saint:

I completely agree with you. system lo change tevali anukunna vallu evvaru power loki vachi change cheddam anukoledu...gandhi gaarini follow ithe better....




Saint, What did he do to upset you?
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Entikaburlu:

the best bet for people like JP, to achieve something big, in my opinion, and all the political f* I have seen in my life in all these years is this:

Not a Party based system. Go on a single man army strategy.

Examples:

- Gandhi early days to some extent, INC adopted Gandhi rather quickly since he was dwarfing it
- Lech Walesa of Poland
- Anna Hazare now
- Martin Luther King

etc.

but the point is, the above people were up against very oppressive entities. they were not fighting politics. they were fighting a victimizing power. JP does not have that monstrous opportunity at the state level.




The problem is you are not clear on what JP wants to achieve.
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Saint:

CM ayyi system mothanni marchestha antunnadu..




Ila vague gaa kaadu, oka 2 points vadulu em change chesta annado..
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the best bet for people like JP, to achieve something big, in my opinion, and all the political f* I have seen in my life in all these years is this:

Not a Party based system. Go on a single man army strategy.




I completely agree with you. system lo change tevali anukunna vallu evvaru power loki vachi change cheddam anukoledu...gandhi gaarini follow ithe better....
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Sanman:

enti logic itta undhi. CM kanna IAS fowerful aa. CM tv lo kanipiste IAS lechi nunchune paristit




CM kanna ekkuva kaadu...CM ayyi system mothanni marchestha antunnadu....so mundu IAS ga chesadu kada ....appudu emi change chesa ani question chesthunna...thats it...
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ee sentence chalu neeku em telso cheppadaniki...hehe...
Don't want to waste my time with you.





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Entikaburlu:

but the point is, the above people were up against very oppressive entities. they were not fighting politics. they were fighting a victimizing power. JP does not have that monstrous opportunity at the state level.




What makes you think that the current rule is not as oppressive? What our farmers are facing today is worse than the british rule.
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Saint:

IAS gaa vundi antha powers vunnappude emi cheyyaleka pothe CM ithe emi chesthadu?


enti logic itta undhi. CM kanna IAS fowerful aa. CM tv lo kanipiste IAS lechi nunchune paristithi
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Saint:




the best bet for people like JP, to achieve something big, in my opinion, and all the political f* I have seen in my life in all these years is this:

Not a Party based system. Go on a single man army strategy.

Examples:

- Gandhi early days to some extent, INC adopted Gandhi rather quickly since he was dwarfing it
- Lech Walesa of Poland
- Anna Hazare now
- Martin Luther King

etc.

but the point is, the above people were up against very oppressive entities. they were not fighting politics. they were fighting a victimizing power. JP does not have that monstrous opportunity at the state level.
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Saint:

neeku JP as a IAS officer ga emi telusoo cheppu...discuss chedam....



Saint:

primary education/ health / upadhi ee mootini touch cheyyakunda....educateds voogipoye topics matram enchukuni aati meeda focus chesthadu.....




ee sentence chalu neeku em telso cheppadaniki...hehe...
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Indiarocks:


antha kante answers expect cheyyatam ledu le...
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Entikaburlu:

the questions about what he did/didn't do while he was working is nonsense.



that decides what he is capable of...
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Entikaburlu:


Saint, you shouldn't attack JP. He is a model politician. the questions about what he did/didn't do while he was working is nonsense.




yes model gane panikosthadu...full time hero gaa kaadu...
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Ee sentence chalu, reply waste.




neeku JP as a IAS officer ga emi telusoo cheppu...discuss chedam....
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Saint:

primary education/ health / upadhi ee mootini touch cheyyakunda....educateds voogipoye topics matram enchukuni aati meeda focus chesthadu.....




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anna gaaru...aa points copy paste chesukunnara lappy lo...

JP meeda ee thread aina aa points same alane padatayi..




ledu thammudu..thread ethiki copy chesi..paste chesaa..
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Entikaburlu:


for eg. you cannot ask a programmer why he didn't learn math well while he was in school. he simply did not he will become a programmer. probably he wanted to be something else.




but programs dwara emanna innovations techada ani choostha...steve jobs/bill gates/ larry page etc kooda initial gaa programmers ee.....they changed the direction of the world....

JP gaaru IAS gaa work chesinappudu techina revolutionary change okkati cheppandi? he has power..dist motham aayana control lo vundi....what changes did he bring in?
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Saint:

only loksatta start chesake janam lo change ravali...system marali ani tv mike attukuni septha vunnadu..anthaku mundu he is also part of the system..but anthaku mundu IAS gaa vunnappudu emi try cheyyaledu ani naa opinion....IAS gaa vundi antha powers vunnappude emi cheyyaleka pothe CM ithe emi chesthadu? system lo aayana techina okka change cheppandi? IAS ga vundi less corrupted and duty chesinollu chala mandi vunnaru...




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IAS gaa vunnappudu he did some good work..appreciate that...thats his responsibility...IAS/IPS gaa vundi anthaku minchi work chesina vallu chala mandi vunnaru....vallaki lenidi JP ki vunadi publicity for obvious reasons...

only loksatta start chesake janam lo change ravali...system marali ani tv mike attukuni septha vunnadu..anthaku mundu he is also part of the system..but anthaku mundu IAS gaa vunnappudu emi try cheyyaledu ani naa opinion....IAS gaa vundi antha powers vunnappude emi cheyyaleka pothe CM ithe emi chesthadu? system lo aayana techina okka change cheppandi? IAS ga vundi less corrupted and duty chesinollu chala mandi vunnaru...


T meeda oka stand ledu....leader gaa unfit
free gaa edi ivvadu antadu..mari poor ppl ki alternates cheppinattu ekkada kanipinchaledu...over night system motham change ipovali antadu....adi eppudu possible kaadu...
minimum 20-30 years road map / vision lenedi society lo change raadu..unrealistic approches cheptha vuntadu...


primary education/ health / upadhi ee mootini touch cheyyakunda....educateds voogipoye topics matram enchukuni aati meeda focus chesthadu.....

I like him as a person..but I would rate CBN better than JP....
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Saint, you shouldn't attack JP. He is a model politician. the questions about what he did/didn't do while he was working is nonsense.

for eg. you cannot ask a programmer why he didn't learn math well while he was in school. he simply did not he will become a programmer. probably he wanted to be something else.

the probelm for politicians like JP is this:

they require the voter to behave rationally. in a democracy, voters are not rational. it has nothing to do with literacy, level of income, etc. it is one of those paradoxes in political behavior.
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anthakante matter ledu ani artham..
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anna gaaru...aa points copy paste chesukunnara lappy lo...

JP meeda ee thread aina aa points same alane padatayi...
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1) janalani bithca gallu chese populist schemes ki nuvvu dead against...

NTR power lo vunnappudu... NTR ki cheppi enduku oppinchaledu....NTR ki nuvvante pitcha respect..nee daggira nunchi file vasthe choodakunda santhakam ette range needi...appudu public servent gaa nee manasu sampukuni 30 years pani chesava?

2) monna interview...life lo baaga badha kaliginchana sangatana ..NTR ni CBN dimpatam annav.....

democracy....constitution ..etc ani nidra lechina dagira nunchi chava D chevulyu mosse nuvvu.....oka anti constitutional force govt ni nadipistha vunte..appudu why silent? MLAs andaru chattabaddam gaa NTR dimpesi CBN ennukunte why crying? mana god ki anyayam jarigindi anaaa?


3) NTR ni dimpi CBN CM kagane IAS ki resign chesi....oka 2-3 years lo loksatta start chesavu.....why? NTR leni chota nenu pani cheyyakudadu anaaa?

4) nithyam vote hakku....law thokka thotakoora ani chavadobbi chevulu moose nuvvu..TRS leader dippa meeda okati peekinappudu..why no case on him? why did u leave the culprit?
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those of you further interested for g/k growing, the keywords are Public Choice.

The economists and potical behaviorists often grapple with this paradox.

In a true market place, 99% of the time, the best product wins the race. an example is iPhone, Sony Walkman, Titanic Movie etc. Rarely a good product goes unnoticed, but that can be attributed to the margin of error in any theory.

But in an election, the best candidate may not win at all. If a candidate goes and promises that he will do every single great thing in the world, in every single constituency, any independent can win. Then there is no need for political parties any more. This shows how different a public choice is from a private choice. When you are making a public choice, surprisingly, you will obey the swarm mechanics.
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this is political science 101. I am not going to make any specific comments about JP, they apply in general, so just take these for academic background.

- people judge a ruler and elect a leader. if the current ruler passes the muster, he will be relected. otherwise they look for a leader. so, anyone who wants to comeback, has to win the leader ship race among the challengers. is JP winning the field in the challengers?

- people do not waste their vote. it is a chaotic swarm behavior, but every bee likes to be in the bigger winning swarm. every voter believes he is in the bigger, winning swarm till he votes. but if can clearly see he is not in the biggest swarm, he would not waste the vote by being there, he moves to the biggest swarm he thinks is going to win. here JP's party needs to compete in the seats where his party is 1st or 2nd position

i may sound discouraging, but this is the reality, even in advanced countries. Ralph Nader of USA is one example. UK has a 3rd party called Social Democrats, they have the same problem.
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Jujung:

Reason for not winning:
- there is no targeted voting group for JP/LSP.

Caste/class/religion/reservation/region/language - none of these categories are particularly targeted by the party. So, they see no reason to put themselves behind LSP, leaving their traditional "protectors".

Now, the only group which is blind to all these categories is a section of the educated middle class - which doesn't need the govt in any important way - obviously sees no reason to participate in electoral process.

America anthati developed country lone the two parties need to appease their "bases" before worrying about attracting the "independents".




You are mistaken if you think that the poor sections do not support JP at all. JP gained a lot of support among farmers, and unemployed youth in Hyd.

Albeit slowly, change will come.
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Reason for not winning:
- there is no targeted voting group for JP/LSP.

Caste/class/religion/reservation/region/language - none of these categories are particularly targeted by the party. So, they see no reason to put themselves behind LSP, leaving their traditional "protectors".

Now, the only group which is blind to all these categories is a section of the educated middle class - which doesn't need the govt in any important way - obviously sees no reason to participate in electoral process.

America anthati developed country lone the two parties need to appease their "bases" before worrying about attracting the "independents".
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Naaku Enti ane daniki JP dagara answer ledhu kaabati...


theen emmaa state baagu padithe manam baagupadinatte ane common sense leni literates vunaaar kabatte naaaku enti ki answer iche ysr jagan cbn lu leaders ayyaaru.
Manaki Manam Kingu, Choosevallaki Bongu.
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asalu the whole voting and election pattern should be changed in india. since there are almost always at least 4 different decent options, declaring someone with a simple majority as a winner is stupid. that should be done only when one really gets the simply majority antey > 50%. in all other cases, there should be a proportional representation. so if tdp guys gets 30%, cong gets 25%, they should share their MLA time for the constituency. aa simple majority based election only makes sense in a 2 party system. mana laanti society ki rules maarchaali. lekapothe chaala mandhi scallion lanti vaallu will never vote true to their heart giving more weight to the lesser evil rather than no evil.




Watch this if you have time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y3jE3B8HsE

With our current voting, it will be extremely difficult for a 3rd party to come into power. So, we will be stuck with only 2 ideologies, or in our case,no ideology at all.

In 2004-2005 Loksatta met all parties at center to change voting system to proportional voting. They agreed to the point, but backed off citing that it is a too big change.
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asalu the whole voting and election pattern should be changed in india. since there are almost always at least 4 different decent options, declaring someone with a simple majority as a winner is stupid. that should be done only when one really gets the simply majority antey > 50%. in all other cases, there should be a proportional representation. so if tdp guys gets 30%, cong gets 25%, they should share their MLA time for the constituency. aa simple majority based election only makes sense in a 2 party system. mana laanti society ki rules maarchaali. lekapothe chaala mandhi scallion lanti vaallu will never vote true to their heart giving more weight to the lesser evil rather than no evil.
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He is educated
He is naledegble in all fields
He is Good Speaker
He is THE BEST HONEST in all indian politicians
He is Feel Good Person
His Party had CLEAR stand on MAJAORITY of public Issues

Kaani JANAM lo Oka SPANDANA/Oka Vuttejam TESUKURALEKA potunnadu

Y Y Y Y Y Y??
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he has got ego problems .


ante vere vallaki ledani kadu .

jp ki adhi bhaga vundi.
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Jp_rocks:

so, you are not voting for TDP..you are voting against congress ala aite asalu vote ye veyakunda undachu ga, why vote for tdp?




math lo week aa ??? asalu evariki veyaka pothe congi konam nunchi impact 0, TDP ki vote chesthe -1
Jai NTR, Jai Jai TDP
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poti lo kooda leni apudu gelichina gelavaka poyina LS ke vote vesthe, nenu vote vesina LS gelavata poga more evil Congi will come into power....


so, you are not voting for TDP..you are voting against congress :-)

ala aite asalu vote ye veyakunda undachu ga, why vote for tdp?
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JP is like Sekhar Kammula of politics. Oka Happy Days type lo pedda range kotte varaku limited audience untaaru.
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JP counsellers , ZPTC and MPTC nundi start cheyyali instead of MLA doing counseller work.
manchi candidates ni nuncho bedithe mana vote waste avvudhhe anna bhaavana lekunda
vote estharu ..all LS needs is good candidates from the society.
ippudu LS meedha chaala avagaahana vacchindhi janala ki so we can expect >10 this time.




GHMC lo excellent candidates ni ninchopettaru. For every ward a manifesto was prepared, along with identified problems, solutions, how much money, and time is needed to fix those problems.

Intha cheste roju poddunna lechi roads baledu, water ledu ani complaint chese janalu intlo koorchunnaru, kaneesam voting ki rakunda. Voting %age in some wards with educated ppl was 25%.

LSP has strong second tier leadership doing excellent work now. Only difference enti ante, valla gurinchi Eenadu main paper lo vayadu. Ikkada manaki anthakante teliyadu. One leader for example

http://loksattavizianagaram.wordpress.com/
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JP counsellers , ZPTC and MPTC nundi start cheyyali instead of MLA doing counseller work.
manchi candidates ni nuncho bedithe mana vote waste avvudhhe anna bhaavana lekunda
vote estharu ..all LS needs is good candidates from the society.
ippudu LS meedha chaala avagaahana vacchindhi janala ki so we can expect >10 this time.
Lets create a corruption-free India
Jai Anna Hazare
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Scallion:

poti lo kooda leni apudu gelichina gelavaka poyina LS ke vote vesthe, nenu vote vesina LS gelavata poga more evil Congi will come into power.... this is the same case with the Congi guy, athani vishayam lo more evil TDP will come into power.. ee equation ilage unantha kaalam people will not vote LS




ade cheppanu kada annai...neela entha mandi alochisthunnaro kada...that is where LS is loosing its major share...may be neela cheppivallani atleast 100 mandinaina chiusintanu ippatidaka....
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Scallion:

Deenini inko rakam ga choodu apudu neeku nijaga socity lo emi jaruguthundho thelusthundhi.....

poti lo kooda leni apudu gelichina gelavaka poyina LS ke vote vesthe, nenu vote vesina LS gelavata poga more evil Congi will come into power.... this is the same case with the Congi guy, athani vishayam lo more evil TDP will come into power.. ee equation ilage unantha kaalam people will not vote LS

ika pothe LS pick up ayi poti loki ravataaniki okate maargam, pina chepina situation usually assembly ki unantha strong ga local bodies ki jarigee elections lo undadhu, so akada nunchi start chesi koncham koncham peragaali




Peragali antaru, support cheyakunda ekkada perugutundi.

Meeku Cong power lo undi, leda TDP power lo undi anna stamp mukhyama, entha change vachindi annadi mukhyama?

Just single MLA gaa undi JP rice,cotton exports, and other issues lo entha influence chesadu annadi telusu meeku.

JP ki MLAs strength unte ee patiki Karnataka kante strong Lokayukta undedi state lo. YSR/Jagan eppudo convict ayyevallu.
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Cocanada:

babuuuuuuuu
it needs a Yes/No solution. sri krishna committee esaru. assembly lo bill edataaru

everything is done to get a boolean result.




JP ki personal gaa Yes/No opinion undachu. But who is he to force his personal opinion on others?

Separate state annadi unconstitutional aa, kaadu.
Separate state annadi immoral aa, kaadu.
Separate state aithe pralayam vastunda, ledu.

Inkenti cheppedi. But, if lies are spread in the name of separate state movement, one has to tell the public what is the truth. Only JP did that in the whole state. Movement perutho extortion cheste bokkalo thoyali. Only JP asked for that in the whole state.
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...everyone wants to vote for a party that comes to the power even that party is a big BS...(not offending you in any means)




Deenini inko rakam ga choodu apudu neeku nijaga socity lo emi jaruguthundho thelusthundhi.....

poti lo kooda leni apudu gelichina gelavaka poyina LS ke vote vesthe, nenu vote vesina LS gelavata poga more evil Congi will come into power.... this is the same case with the Congi guy, athani vishayam lo more evil TDP will come into power.. ee equation ilage unantha kaalam people will not vote LS

ika pothe LS pick up ayi poti loki ravataaniki okate maargam, pina chepina situation usually assembly ki unantha strong ga local bodies ki jarigee elections lo undadhu, so akada nunchi start chesi koncham koncham peragaali
Jai NTR, Jai Jai TDP
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Jp_rocks:

why?? why vote to parties with neech kameen manifestos (tdp/congee)? chasss




podduna lechinappudu nunchi...

FB and Twitter lo "i support Anna...Nenu avineethiki vyathirekam" ani nalugu posts

Konni online forums lo avineethiki/Jagan/CBN ku vyathirekanga oka muppai posts...

and finalga malli vallake elections lo votes vesyyadam....

Chinnappudu algebra kuda o varam lo arthamayyindi....intha peddayakka paina mention chesina galiz logic matram enthaku artham kavadam ledu
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Sensexxxxx:

i think so called educated guys intetntions to vote for any party lies behind thier caste..this is 75% true in AP




Not just in AP but whole of India. Thats the political strategy of Congress in the last 65 years. Congress got that training from British. Divide and rule policy. All the political parties in india are following Congress in this policy as they have no other go. Parties like LSP give some hope but okka tulasi mokka ganjayivanam ni cleanse cheseyyeledhu kadhaa.

India maaralantey devudu digi raavaali or evarayinaa prophet ni pampaali or oka peddha war raavaali or oka big narural calamity ayinaaa raavaali. Appudappudu china maadhiri maoists take over cheyyaali anipsitadhi. Chass endho extreme thoughts vasthunnaayi.
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Scallion:

Definite ga LS poti iva gala situation lo unte ( read my words poti iva not gelavagala at least poti ivagala) TDP ni pakana peti LS ki vestha




Poti Ivvagala anedi relative term..how can you measure it...

Basic ga the whole LS problem lies in the people like you...everyone wants to vote for a party that comes to the power even that party is a big BS...(not offending you in any means)

If you are expecting your future generation to root for LS/JP..then that should start with you....
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ade ga mana dourbhagyam..anduke ala vote ese vallu pasuvulu annadi..




ante..manolle kada..mari antha direct ga tidithe ela...

nenu chudu entha chakkaga "Educated illiterates" ani tittano...kastha lokam pokado telusuko annai....
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Cocanada:

enti chinna rao gaaru maanchi hushaaru meeda unnaru


why?? why vote to parties with neech kameen manifestos (tdp/congee)? chasss
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Sensexxxxx:

Is this forcing you to not to vote for LS in elections?




Definite ga LS poti iva gala situation lo unte ( read my words poti iva not gelavagala at least poti ivagala) TDP ni pakana peti LS ki vestha
Jai NTR, Jai Jai TDP
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i think so called educated guys intetntions to vote for any party lies behind thier caste..this is 75% true in AP..


ade ga mana dourbhagyam..anduke ala vote ese vallu pasuvulu annadi..
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ayana janam madhyaloki velladam ledu. i respect him as a very knowledgable man but have never seen him being between people listening to their issues. anduke no uttejam or spandana.


bedaru... endi ee post... ante TV llo kanapadithe ne janam loki vellinatla? Raithula issue la meeda fight start chesindi mundu JP nee.... adi thelusuko... Educated vi ayi vundi nuvvu kooda ila antam bagoledu... And world ee leader kooda 24X7 public lo vundaledu kadaa...
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at the same time I believe he will not make into power any time soon....




Is this forcing you to not to vote for LS in elections?
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The only way he can become CM is if we have elections like here in US. Separate election for MLA and separate electoin for head of the state




nelantolu uppude j antunte...appud ekam ga J ki vote ese sance vaste vadulutava ??
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annai...endidi?...confusing ga undi




i was/am a hard core fan of PV Narasimha Rao. nenu kooda 2 different occasions lo LS ki donate chesenu totalling $300. its respecting an individual's mind set and vision instead of any affiliaton towards party.
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Cocanada:

it needs a Yes/No solution. sri krishna committee esaru. assembly lo bill edataaru


enduku yes/no solution? pratheede black/white lo undadu ga
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i can never come to terms with an educated guy voting for a party with color tv/freebie manifestos....em chusi vote estaru? manushula, pasuvula?




I dont think any educated people are Voting for any party due to the freeebies offered by that party...this will apply to un-educated people only..

i think so called educated guys intetntions to vote for any party lies behind thier caste..this is 75% true in AP..
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JP may never get power to rule the state but he will always have a special place in AP public's minds.




The only way he can become CM is if we have elections like here in US. Separate election for MLA and separate electoin for head of the state
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2nd level leaders ni dimpali na lanti vallani




Jp teliyakunda LSP ni Ravul Babaki ammi Dobbutav....
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annai...endidi?...confusing ga undi




I am TDP.... but vere party vaalu manchi chesthi enduku kaadanaali.... I believe JP & his idolize at the same time I believe he will not make into power any time soon.... JP ni support chesedhi ee tharam lo kontha mandhi ni aayana marcha galigithe it will be good for next generation
Jai NTR, Jai Jai TDP
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JP is a very good leader. Society needs more people like him. JP may never get power to rule the state but he will always have a special place in AP public's minds.
Andharuu Baagundaali.
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Kdnumber1:

He is educated
He is naledegble in all fields
He is Good Speaker
He is THE BEST HONEST in all indian politicians
He is Feel Good Person
His Party had CLEAR stand on MAJAORITY of public Issues

Kaani JANAM lo Oka SPANDANA/Oka Vuttejam TESUKURALEKA potunnadu

Y Y Y Y Y Y??



Oka adukkune pillodiki money istanu ra ante ventane vastadu....
Ade adukkune pillodiki oka pustakamu istanu poyyi chaduvuko peddodivi ayyi nee kalla meeda nuvvu nilabatavu ante avadivi ra nuvvu antadu.....

redava sentense lo yenta nijam undo anta funny ga kuda untadi.

Manamu ante brain use cheyyamu JP lanti talented people cheppina manamu mana Bavi ante
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Kdnumber1:

Kaani JANAM lo Oka SPANDANA/Oka Vuttejam TESUKURALEKA potunnadu




2 much democratic aipothunadu, only place is assembly/parliment to discuss antunaru, akkademo important vishyalo tappa eeyna mata yevaru vinatam ledhu

2nd level leaders ni dimpali na lanti vallani :D
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Nsk9876:

You are just representing just AP public mentaility... oka pakka lachha kotlu kotteyochhu... vallani siggu/eggu lekund support cheyyavachhu... kaani evadanna... Anna, JP type lo mundu ku vaste... innallu ekkadunnaru... chinnappudu school lo pencil dongathanam chesadu... chaduvukone rojullo college lo oka 10 rs. lancham ichhadu... so vellu matram emanna pattittula... antam prati okkdiki fashion ayipoyindi...




well said..mana mushti junta ki ippudunna mushti leaderseyy correct...

ma college lo elections jarigevi..manifesto, presidential debate etc etc consider chesi vote esevaru....ala mana gorre janalu maare varaku mana desam D'pothune untundi..

i can never come to terms with an educated guy voting for a party with color tv/freebie manifestos....em chusi vote estaru? manushula, pasuvula?
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Cocanada:

babuuuuuuuu
it needs a Yes/No solution. sri krishna committee esaru. assembly lo bill edataaru everything is done to get a boolean result.




adhi sadhyam kadu kanake intha tala nopi babuuuuuuuuuu....

There are N nuber of issues which should be addressed before you say "YES" or "NO"... aa issues nemi address chyakunda yes aa no aa chepu ante arikaloo medadu unte thapa evadu answer chepadu
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Scallion:

LS ki apudapudu ichina donations valla news letters pamputhaaru





Scallion:

Jai NTR, Jai Jai TDP




annai...endidi?...confusing ga undi
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enti chinna rao gaaru maanchi hushaaru meeda unnaru
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Megapowerstar:

ayana janam madhyaloki velladam ledu. i respect him as a very knowledgable man but have never seen him being between people listening to their issues. anduke no uttejam or spandana.




Picha tapudu statement ante idhe.... very regular ga janam loki veluthondhi athane, and JOY type lo kaakunda systematic ga problems kanukone prayathanam chesthondhi kooda athanee.... every month definite ga janalanu kalusthunaadu.... neeku ela thelusu ani adaga vadhu.... LS ki apudapudu ichina donations valla news letters pamputhaaru
Jai NTR, Jai Jai TDP
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chinnappudu school lo pencil dongathanam chesadu... chaduvukone rojullo college lo oka 10 rs. lancham ichhadu... so vellu matram emanna pattittula... antam prati okkdiki fashion ayipoyindi...




adi mana YSR nerpina VIDYA le...slow ga marsipotar Janam, once after J in J :-)
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Scallion:

why do you think any one should have only either a "yes" or "No" opinion



babuuuuuuuu
it needs a Yes/No solution. sri krishna committee esaru. assembly lo bill edataaru

everything is done to get a boolean result.
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Kalikaalam:

Idi yelaa decide chesthaaru??
(1)sontha dabba yekkuva..candidate ki.. regular politicians 'Para ninda' chesthu vuntaaru. Yiyana 'aathma sthuthi' chesukontu vuntaadu. pedha thedaa ledu

(2)KCR fasting appudu "asalu niraahaara diksha anedi pedha thappu..adi potti SriRamulu chesinaa kudaa thappu..thappe.." ani viraavesam tho cheppi..ippudu Anna Hajare ki support yenduku chesthunnaadu??..so..no nijaayithi..andtha hypocracy..

(3)NTR nundi CBN padavi ni 'anti-democratic' padhathi lo laakkonnappdu yiyan aprathyaksha saakshi. Kaani yenaadu daanini bahirangam gaa khandinchadu..yedo chesina muthaiduva laagaa kurchontaadu..

inkaa yekkadi bochu lo nijayithi??




asalu oka manishini leader ga accept chesukokapovadaniki iva reasons?

1. Mana piliticians chese chandalapu panula gurinchi cheothe adi neeku paranindala anipinchinda?....ayanaku own media ledu..ayanku dorikina timelo ayana chesina panula gutinchi ayane cheppukovali...adi self dabbana.?

2. valid point....may be someone should ask him this question to listen his version...i think he is supprting anna'z cause and not anna's actions..

3. Its better to sit silent when someone doesnt know the full details...may JP is doing that...just because he was a govt employee then , you cant expect him to know the full conspiracy...
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YES HE IS..

If voted to power, he would be the best CM our state ever had.
I am struck by the lightning of love and burnt beyond repair - Florentino Ariza
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Kalikaalam:

inkaa yekkadi bochu lo nijayithi??


You are just representing just AP public mentaility... oka pakka lachha kotlu kotteyochhu... vallani siggu/eggu lekund support cheyyavachhu... kaani evadanna... Anna, JP type lo mundu ku vaste... innallu ekkadunnaru... chinnappudu school lo pencil dongathanam chesadu... chaduvukone rojullo college lo oka 10 rs. lancham ichhadu... so vellu matram emanna pattittula... antam prati okkdiki fashion ayipoyindi...
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Jp_rocks:

bongu kuda undadu response..antha enduku, meeru anna hazare party edite aayanaki estara TDP ki estara? simpulu logiccu




JP oka saari question jagrathaga chaduvu...

Q : do you think he will have the same kind of response as LSP if he starts a party

Ans : Doubt aa

ante he will not get any better support then JP ani
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Kaani JANAM lo Oka SPANDANA/Oka Vuttejam TESUKURALEKA potunnadu




ayana janam madhyaloki velladam ledu. i respect him as a very knowledgable man but have never seen him being between people listening to their issues. anduke no uttejam or spandana.
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Sanman:

ee db lo idhena telisindi


ade anna kada, barrelani discount cheyali ani..dimag unna vadavu konni jeevalu....vati bathukanthe..but they have the ability to think
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MLC ani ... kothaga ettaru gada .. valla elections ki only graduates allowed kada .. valla voting pattern kuda same untadhi .. JP GeePi jantha nai .. evadi kulapodu, mathapodu allaki eskuntaru ...


ilaaati BARRELAKI ippudunna barre leaders and policies ye correct..let them die a heinous death
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Jp_rocks:

educated person ki clear ga alochinchi vote ese dimag untundi..


ee db lo idhena telisindi

Jp_rocks:

illiterates ki aa facility ledu ga..gorrela mandha laga povadame..


swing votes elaa vastunnai mari. a party cannot spend its way to victory ani prove aindhi kadha chaala sarlu
oka vastuvu ae reethilo undaalo aa vidham gaa undaali - balayya
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Cocanada:

Separate T is better or Samaik is better




Deeniki yes or No adagatam lone nee durudesam ardham avuthondhi ???? why do you think any one should have only either a "yes" or "No" opinion.

there are N number of people who has a different opinion then simple "yes" or "No"

open end question adagalsina dagara just "yes" or "No" chepamanatam foolishness
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inkaa yekkadi bochu lo nijayithi??




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Naa openion lo aa vunna okka seat poguttukokundaa vunte..goppaa..

Oka vela nijam gaa Nijayaithi anedi vunte janam yedo oka roju sense chesthaaru..
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Scallion:

Doubt aa ??


bongu kuda undadu response..antha enduku, meeru anna hazare party edite aayanaki estara TDP ki estara?

simpulu logiccu
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Cocanada:

Separate T is better or Samaik is better




Both r not better as long as no change in public n public Servents

ani netthi noru badukuni mare seputunnadu ga daily...sakshiTv tappa inka emi sudava eti
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ayana current generation people ki .. they dont want leaders .. they want dealers!!!
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//He is THE BEST HONEST in all indian politicians //

Idi yelaa decide chesthaaru??
(1)sontha dabba yekkuva..candidate ki.. regular politicians 'Para ninda' chesthu vuntaaru. Yiyana 'aathma sthuthi' chesukontu vuntaadu. pedha thedaa ledu

(2)KCR fasting appudu "asalu niraahaara diksha anedi pedha thappu..adi potti SriRamulu chesinaa kudaa thappu..thappe.." ani viraavesam tho cheppi..ippudu Anna Hajare ki support yenduku chesthunnaadu??..so..no nijaayithi..andtha hypocracy..

(3)NTR nundi CBN padavi ni 'anti-democratic' padhathi lo laakkonnappdu yiyan aprathyaksha saakshi. Kaani yenaadu daanini bahirangam gaa khandinchadu..yedo chesina muthaiduva laagaa kurchontaadu..

inkaa yekkadi bochu lo nijayithi??
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Kdnumber1:

oka educated person enta mandi Illitrates ni litarate ga marstunnadu??


educated person ki clear ga alochinchi vote ese dimag untundi..of course leveraging his/her dimag is upto the individual - adi vere vishayam..but atleast they are equipped to make an educated decision..

illiterates ki aa facility ledu ga..gorrela mandha laga povadame..
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they don't have the means/intellectual ability to think


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Sanman:

do you think he will have the same kind of response as LSP if he starts a party


Yes... endukante vallu AP public antha corrupted kaadu kadaa... piaga kulalu, mathalu base meeda rajakeeyalaku/votlu mana AP lo vesinattu/support veyyaru/cheyyaru kadaa...
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what is ur Q ?


Separate T is better or Samaik is better
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Sanman:

then why do the same people support anna hazare ? do you think he will have the same kind of response as LSP if he starts a party


they support anna hazare coz they know he's right..they don't vote to good ppl coz they sell their votes for liquor/money...and that is because they don't have the means/intellectual ability to think beyond quick bucks..

anduke literacy ni war footing lo penchali..
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Sanman:

then why do the same people support anna hazare ? do you think he will have the same kind of response as LSP if he starts a party




Anna hazare movement anedi oka wave lantidi....koddirojulu paiki lesthunde gani ekkuvarojulu undaledu....

in our country ultimately evryones interest lies in thier own caste, religion and region
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Jp Came for Sakshi TV Opening m feeling was .... I am done with LS ...
even though i voted for Corporate elections LS ...
GTG

YSR is to politics what Veerappan is to a forest. NTR lo enno faults unodchu kaani i think he was much more responsible with public money- Sanman >>I am 420
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Sanman:

then why do the same people support anna hazare ? do you think he will have the same kind of response as LSP if he starts a party


Ekkada annai, Andhra lo ekkada support chestunnaru... Paiga, Jagan ki support ga mla lu rajinamalu cheste vallaki anna support chestunnaru gaani, Anna ki AP lo antha pedda support ledu kadaa...
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Cocanada:

JP ni oke oka simpulu kochen adugutunaa chinnapat ninchi




what is ur Q ??
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Sanman:

do you think he will have the same kind of response as LSP if he starts a party




Doubt aa ??
Jai NTR, Jai Jai TDP
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Jp_rocks:

illiterates ni pakkana padeyandi..vallu out of scope




MLC ani ... kothaga ettaru gada .. valla elections ki only graduates allowed kada .. valla voting pattern kuda same untadhi .. JP GeePi jantha nai .. evadi kulapodu, mathapodu allaki eskuntaru ...

and other people ki ... mobiles, kunkum bharinalu, pattu cheeralu .. shara mamule .. degree certificates oolla ninchi tepinchukuni ... apatikappudu ... cell phones teesku vote estharu ..

sadvu kunnodu .. sakalodu .. same category .. ee desam lo ...
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JP ni oke oka simpulu kochen adugutunaa chinnapat ninchi
True or False kochen.

daaniki answer seppamante seppaleka potunaadu
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illiterates ni pakkana padeyandi..vallu out of scope




illiterate lo rendu rakalu...educated illiterates and un-educated illiterates....

un-educated illiterates kante educated illiterates thone ippudu problem antha...valla mind set maranantha varaku JP lantollaki kastam
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illiterates ni pakkana padeyandi..vallu out of scope




enduku padeyyali pakkana...???

oka educated person enta mandi Illitrates ni litarate ga marstunnadu?? okka 1% vuntaremo(mundu educated ni pakkana ettali)
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then why do the same people support anna hazare ? do you think he will have the same kind of response as LSP if he starts a party
oka vastuvu ae reethilo undaalo aa vidham gaa undaali - balayya
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Kdnumber1:

naaku enti ane LEADERS gurincha ??
naaku enti ane VOTERS gurincha ??




Leader ayina Voter ayina ivala first choosthondhi "Naaku Enti" ane... daaniki JP iche samaadanam okadiki kooda nachatam la
Jai NTR, Jai Jai TDP
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janalu retards kabatti

personal benefits unde vallani teeseste, aam junta should atleast learn to make an educated choice..

illiterates ni pakkana padeyandi..vallu out of scope
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Kaani JANAM lo Oka SPANDANA/Oka Vuttejam TESUKURALEKA potunnadu

Y Y Y Y Y Y??




"LS ku vote vesthe power loki vasthunda chasthunda...anavasaranga vote waste chesukovadam enduku?" ani alochinche educated illiterates unnanthavraku JP lantollo poerloki raleru...leaders kaleru...

anni correctga , systematic ga, procedural ga , disciplinedga, honest ga cheyylanai try chesthadu..

mana janalaki(majority) avi nacchavu...endukante vallu ala undaleru kabatti...
So vallu ele unataro alanti varine leaders ga ennukuntaru...
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Scallion:

Naaku Enti ane daniki JP dagara answer ledhu kaabati...




naaku enti ane LEADERS gurincha ??
naaku enti ane VOTERS gurincha ??
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1990 lo raavalsina vaadu ippudu 2 edge sword kaavali

Vote Bank + Ideals
YSR is to politics what Veerappan is to a forest. NTR lo enno faults unodchu kaani i think he was much more responsible with public money- Sanman >>I am 420
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I take it this way.
No one is perfect and mistakes do happen with people who work with him or cadre.
As a leader I would like him to stand by his cadre when necessary even in adverse situation.

I dont see that quality in JP.
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Kdnumber1:

Kaani JANAM lo Oka SPANDANA/Oka Vuttejam TESUKURALEKA potunnadu




Naaku Enti ane daniki JP dagara answer ledhu kaabati...
Jai NTR, Jai Jai TDP
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NO
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He is educated
He is naledegble in all fields
He is Good Speaker
He is THE BEST HONEST in all indian politicians
He is Feel Good Person
His Party had CLEAR stand on MAJAORITY of public Issues

Kaani JANAM lo Oka SPANDANA/Oka Vuttejam TESUKURALEKA potunnadu

Y Y Y Y Y Y??

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