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Bunty717:

Himalayas ni north lo teesi south lo edite.. Ind will be super power..
ela undi avidia


Himalayas ni China ki ichesthe e godava ledu kada.
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NORTHSIDE vaaasthu dosham vundi.

You cant have a heavy force object on northside (himalayas)




Himalayas ni north lo teesi south lo edite.. Ind will be super power..
ela undi avidia
OT's own dialog: Pativrate kaani, gokite vastundi
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Kala sarpa dosham is a rahu/kethu dosham. Kaala sarpa ante paamu related kaadu.
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kala sarpa dosham valla ups n downs untai life lo baaaaaaga

ee ups n downs konchem violent gaa, sakaTa yoga kante ekkuva effect tho untai, is it true ?


kala sarpa dosham tho panulanni delay avthai. Konni pujalu chesthaaru in Sivudi areas like Triambakeswar, Ujjai etc. Adi chesina 6mnths-1yr lo you will start seeing the results.
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Kamal:

meeku astrology intha baga vacha?



One who wins without problem -- it is just "VICTORY"
but one who wins with lot of troubles -- that is "HISTORY
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Rajusk:

some of the results of having that yoga ..do hold good..but astrologers demonize the outcome of this..and scare people ..anthe



kala sarpa dosham valla ups n downs untai life lo baaaaaaga

ee ups n downs konchem violent gaa, sakaTa yoga kante ekkuva effect tho untai, is it true ?
One who wins without problem -- it is just "VICTORY"
but one who wins with lot of troubles -- that is "HISTORY
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Rao garu .. meeku astrology intha baga vacha? surprised!!
http://youtu.be/N1duR9XCtSY - Jaya He Bharati ..
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ippudu inni years gadichaai kabatti ilaa support cheskuntu cheppagalugutunnaar
otherwise munde predict cheyyadam kastam
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Subzero:

that exception may be for individuals. r u sure it holds true for nations too ?




mundane astrology ki ee theory apply seyyocha anedi naaku telvad..but it might be just a coincidence..

for that matter..none of the classics have a reference to Kala Sarpa yoga...they all describe Nabhasa yogas..and Sarpa yogas..but nothing very specific to this..

kala sarpa yoga description and phenomenon is more of a modern theory...that got evolved..without a classic reference..but again some of the results of having that yoga ..do hold good..but astrologers demonize the outcome of this..and scare people ..anthe
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10th Lord Saturn is in the 3rd house..Saturn is best ..when placed in 3rd, 6th or 11th houses..he is also involved in multiple Rajayogas..



though he is involved in rajayoga, saturn is weak, becoz of influence of other planets in cancer sign
saturn and sun r the biggest enemies
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Subzero:

the lagna or lagna lord have NO aspect of any benefic planet (or any planet for that matter)




Thammud..Taurus Lagna ki lord Venus..he is in 3rd house involved in multiple Rajayogas..
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They say that the effect of Kala Sarpa Yoga lasts for 42 years .



that exception may be for individuals. r u sure it holds true for nations too ?
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the lagna or lagna lord have NO aspect of any benefic planet (or any planet for that matter)
One who wins without problem -- it is just "VICTORY"
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Subzero:

normally, lagna lord and 10th house lord are very very important

had they chosen this time of midnight, why would they select a time in which lagna lord herself is weak and also the 10th lord is weak. both are in sathru sthaanam and also in a dusthaana (3rd house).




Lagna Lord is in 3rd house ..involved in multiple rajayogas..hence you say the period of Lagna Lord Venus from 1989 to 2009 giving India a meteoric rise from the ashes to what we are today...

10th Lord Saturn is in the 3rd house..Saturn is best ..when placed in 3rd, 6th or 11th houses..he is also involved in multiple Rajayogas..

They say that the effect of Kala Sarpa Yoga lasts for 42 years ..after which the effect of it would wane away..it happened in the case of India too..

1947 to 1989..a period of 42 years ..we were under Kalasarpa yoga..so we were a country close to Depression in most economic terms

after 2009..we have become a country ..who can talk and say that..our economy can go into a Recession..which means..we have vastly improved...

notable horoscopes of people with Kalasarpa Yoga are Nehru and Dhirubhai Ambani
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normally, lagna lord and 10th house lord are very very important

had they chosen this time of midnight, why would they select a time in which lagna lord herself is weak and also the 10th lord is weak. both are in sathru sthaanam and also in a dusthaana (3rd house).
One who wins without problem -- it is just "VICTORY"
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if an opportunity was given to chose the time, obviously they could have selected noon, as abhijit lagna is auspicious
the gap between midnight and the noon is just 12 hrs. I feel no astrolger would have selected a time that causes
kaala sarpa dosha
I know none could have avoided kala sarpa dosha on 15 Aug 1947, as per the planet placement. Still they could have avoided Taurus as lagna, becoz this has the malefic rahu in it.
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bump for interested people..as today is the day ..the discussion is about in this thread..65 years back
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Entikaburlu:

aavu vyasam.. aakhariki bob daggariki raavalsinde..



emi raakudada? Nehru is a white man in brown skin ante Vajpayee daggariki ravachu .. alage Bob daggara ki kuda ravachu .. tappenti?
http://youtu.be/N1duR9XCtSY - Jaya He Bharati ..
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Basky_indya:

bob also too westertn.




mari antha predictable aiyte emi baguntundi

evado edo ante ntr pisikesadu antav heroines ni evado western ante bob antav
jagan loser ani nenu ante intavaraku no jagan fan contradicted me. -- Maverick 27817
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Basky_indya:

bob also too westertn.




aavu vyasam.. aakhariki bob daggariki raavalsinde..
".. be fearful when others are greedy and be greedy only when others are fearful." - Warren Buffett
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is it same to vajpayee too heard he is more western when it comes to his needs...




bob also too westertn.
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is it same to vajpayee too heard he is more western when it comes to his needs...



ofcourse, he is also a little western in thought .. kaadu ani evaru annaru .. Vajpayee had a problem with Alcoholic dementia during the last two years as PM ..
O mata okka banamu, maa siddantam .. poratam maaku pranamu, maa vedantam
joharu cheyyali lokam, maa joru chusaaka .. eenade!
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Nehru was a white man in brown skin is something I guess,




is it same to vajpayee too heard he is more western when it comes to his needs...
jagan loser ani nenu ante intavaraku no jagan fan contradicted me. -- Maverick 27817
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Rajusk:

eenane seppindi Nehru kurrod was a white man in brown skin, the way he treated fellow young freedom fighters ..he was one of the young freedom fighters



Nehru was a white man in brown skin is something I guess, IMHO, even people like Sardar Patel understood Rajugaru .. kaani responsibility they had on their shoulders kept them quiet anukuntunna ..

btw .. veelaithe .. idi choodandi .. http://youtu.be/mqEii6gXY6o .. I guess you will like it ..
O mata okka banamu, maa siddantam .. poratam maaku pranamu, maa vedantam
joharu cheyyali lokam, maa joru chusaaka .. eenade!
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Bangladesh ni Pakistan eesanyam analemu anukonta...because they have India in between



:-) asalu ade pedda debba kadaa..
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Bangladesh ni Pakistan eesanyam analemu anukonta...because they have India in between
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Pakistan vallu choose chesukonna muhurtham atuvantidi...edaina house or business ki fixed Lagna important..




eesanyam lo vallaki bangladesh povatam pedda debba kadaa..
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eenane seppindi Nehru kurrod was a white man in brown skin, the way he treated fellow young freedom fighters ..he was one of the young freedom fighters
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aa chetho bin laden gaadi inti vaastu meeda kooda oka maata cheppandi - mana (USA) luck kaaka pothe- triangle site lo kattina intlo vundatamemiti? aadi bonda.
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Pakistan vallu choose chesukonna muhurtham atuvantidi...edaina house or business ki fixed Lagna important..
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http://youtu.be/mqEii6gXY6o

Life after Marx and markets ..
O mata okka banamu, maa siddantam .. poratam maaku pranamu, maa vedantam
joharu cheyyali lokam, maa joru chusaaka .. eenade!
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vaallu mana daayadhulu.
kRUshITHO nAsthee dURbhikSHAM!!
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How Hindu Astrologers Saved the Nation - �The stories of the dependence of Indian politicians on astrological predictions were suppressed during the time of Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru, who consulted astrologers privately, but condemned astrology publicly. I have discussed it in my book, the Nehru Dynasty.



awesome Rajugaru !
O mata okka banamu, maa siddantam .. poratam maaku pranamu, maa vedantam
joharu cheyyali lokam, maa joru chusaaka .. eenade!
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mari pakistan vallu emee peekatledenti, valla ki north all clear kadaa. vallaki eesanyam debbesindi kabolu.
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ear;lier olden , himalayas not so hieght.

but due to south,east,west water drift force, india is pushed against mountains.

its raising height of mountains. okapudu authala kooda india ney,

akanhda bharat flourished. but this became pooorer side
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Raju garu, India ki vaastu analysis pettandi. It has good eesanyam but like basky said north heavy, so duddu illio. India will always be a poor country? but may be indian ocean is deeper than himalayas, so it may achieve prosperity through South and West?
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good read.....raju gaaru.....
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
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NORTHSIDE vaaasthu dosham vundi.

You cant have a heavy force object on northside (himalayas)
kRUshITHO nAsthee dURbhikSHAM!!
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In 1988 when Wyatt wrote it, Indian independence was already forty one years old, Pakistan got broken up and Bangladesh had been created. Pakistan had suffered or enjoyed, whatever one may say, enough military dictatorships. The astrological reason was:

1) Pakistan chose her independence twenty hours before India with Mesha lagna with Moon in Mithuna involved with a bad exchange with Mercury, a khala yoga.

2) Jinnah got sworn in in Kanya lagna with Mars the eighth lord for this purpose in the tenth house aspecting the lagna and fourth house. After a military adventure in Kashmir, Jinnah, a sick man died and the subsequent history has been a toss-up between a democracy under the grip of the army or the army rule.

India avoided that fate and has functioned as a democracy except the brief period of National Emergency from June 1975 to Jan 1977.

It needed a depth of knowledge of classical Muhurta and mundane astrology to know what form of government a nation will have. There have been critics, particularly in the eighties of the last century who did not understand the finer nuances of Muhurta and mundane astrology to appreciate the time chosen by Suryanarain Vyas and Hardeoji, both class mates in Ujjaain and trained in the Varahmihira school of classical astrology.

Here I must mention that a son of Sri Suryanarain Vyas told me once that the Muhurta for independence was chosen by his father and Hardeoji had nothing to do with it. But the version I had heard from many people and also Hardeo who was always modest and not boastful, that he and Suryanarainji had worked on it together though the chosen time was conveyed to Babu Rajendra Prasad by Suryanarain alone.

Those who argued that the lagna should have been Mesha or Kanya betrayed their total lack of knowledge of history also. And they claim to do mundane astrology ignoring the fate Pakistan suffered by choosing Mesha and Kanya lagnas.

Now work on the Mesha lagna horoscope of Pakistan and see why it suffered dismemberment in Saturn-Venus period.

No Muhurta can be perfect and blemish less. In the Indian Independence horoscope, Rahu is close to the lagna and Saturn Venus are too close for the morality of our countrymen. I have commented on it many times in discussing and predicting about the Venus dasha of India. Then a crowded third house shows a very difficult neighboring countries including the notorious rogue state called Pakistan which India’s Home Minister, P. Chidambaram speaks of often.
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How Hindu Astrologers Saved the Nation - “The stories of the dependence of Indian politicians on astrological predictions were suppressed during the time of Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru, who consulted astrologers privately, but condemned astrology publicly. I have discussed it in my book, the Nehru Dynasty.

In my book, Astrological Journey through History, Mystery and Horoscopes, there is a reference again as to how the Indian politicians had decided to take the midnight of 14th and 15th August, 1947 for the Independence of India. It is discussed in my sketch of Hardeo Sharma Trivedi thus: “In 1947, when the English rulers had decided to grant independence to India on 15th August, Hardeoji and Suryanarain Vyas of Ujjain had told Babu Rajendra Prasad, who later became the first President of India, that astrologically it was not auspicious. When they came to know that the choice of any hour on that day was all the English rulers were prepared to concede, Hardeo insisted that it should be at midnight for three reasons:

---By that time the Moon would have entered Pushya Nakshatra, known as a Maha nakshatra in Bengal and, the most favorable nakshatra for a Muhurta.

---It should be at midnight, roundabout the Abhijeet Muhurta, which was calculated thus: sun-rise on August 15 was at 5-33-31 A.M. Sun-set was at 6. 57.31 P.M. Counted from sunset, the time for the next sunrise would be after 10 hours and 36 minutes, half of which was 5 hours and 18 minutes. If 5 hours and 18 minutes were added to the sunset time we would reach 12 hours and 15 minutes midnight. Twenty four minutes before or after 12.15 midnight would be the Abhijeet Muhurta. That would be the only best time available.

---The third important factor was that by that time the lagna rising would be Vrishabha, a fixed sign, which is always favored for foundations of buildings or, stable independence.

It has been recorded by Sir Woodrow Wyatt that the time of Indian Independence was chosen on astrological considerations but, within the twenty four hours given. The astrologers who advised the government were Hardeoji and Suryanarain Vyas. Yet, until now no Indian astrologer would even mention these names.

Sir Woodrow Wyatt wrote in May 1988 an article on the central page of the Times, London, “Who Does Not Consult Stars”, and defended Ronald Reagan, the US President, for consulting astrologers. There he revealed that Indian astrologers had chosen the time of Indian Independence and that the subsequent history of India was somewhat more successful than Pakistan’s, which got dismembered. (From the Journal of Astrology July-September issue of 1997)

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