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Jujung:

the relevant question here is if the dean, of student affairs, and the faculty are doing their job in the well-being of their students..




Very well said...

It is not lack of brains that causes these breakdowns.

My classmate, a wonderful, brilliant and perfectly normal kid,thru dint of his own hardwork( with no coaching/tuition at all) made a top 20 rank in IIT-JEE, joined IIT Kanpur...He was my brother's role model...

But 2 years later, just as my brother joined IITM , we heard that this friend of mine went into severe depression bordering on suicidal, thankfully his parents pulled him out of IITK in time but it took him a few years to recover and come back into mainstream...

The idea of any education is to help people become better equipped to function in and contribute to society...If an institution selects the best brains in the country through a gruelling exam and then instead of nurturing them to higher potential , ends up destroying them - even if it is a "statistically not important" number, its very logical to ask some questions about the way it functions..

When you know you have student body at high-risk for these issues , it becomes the institution's responsibility to watch out for signs and proactively help the kids especially in a residential set-up.. the authorities cannot just walk away saying its the kids fault.
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der tamud
iit bachelors kurrol arrogance & mee iitm nasty dean lanti vaalla valla iit akulu debbathintunnai
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Typical IIT arrogance....

ee lambike galllu counselling etc cheyisthe koddiga better avutharu.....

evvadu pattinchukoka pothe either suicide anna chesukuntaru..leka pothe chala mandi lekka mental galla laaga thayaru avutharu....
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Der_schuler:

at the same time, I dont see why anyone needs to be sympathetic to some one who is 21 and doesnt have the balls in him to stand upto his own life on the back of his own exertions




sometimes shit happens in life and people don't see that any problem, however big that might appear, is always temporary.. brilliant people are no exception to this mental breakdown.. there are may brilliant scientists /mathematicians who committed suicides out of depression..

the relevant question here is if the dean, of student affairs, and the faculty are doing their job in the well-being of their students..
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Jujung:

phd chesina Dean kooda behaved just like any regular petty bureaucrat in govt offices across the country.. the prevalence of these feudal attitudes across almost all institutions in the country explains their miserable performance..




fair enough... thats definitely insensitive...at the same time, I dont see why anyone needs to be sympathetic to some one who is 21 and doesnt have the balls in him to stand upto his own life on the back of his own exertions.That the students had academic problems is symptomatic of their lack of faculty to handle pressure at the highest level....

If u cant handle pressure, then unfortunately u dont belong to the elite.....as simple as that....ppl put their teens for sacrifice to make it in there and if u are not good enough to compete then yeah that hurts...but U gotta handle it by urself.....
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the point of the post is the routine insensitivity and petty behavior shown by the people in power.. phd chesina Dean kooda behaved just like any regular petty bureaucrat in govt offices across the country.. the prevalence of these feudal attitudes across almost all institutions in the country explains their miserable performance..

this one from a couple of years ago is another example:
http://www.nature.com/news/2009/091109/full/462152a.html

dean of student affairs ni suicides gurinchi adigithe memu chala patents sampadincham meeku samadhanam cheppalsina avasaram ledu ani matladevadu is unfit to be a dean..
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kompa teesi academic standards tagginchamantara enti....already daridram ayyindhi campus slash gallatho....okkodu 6-7 ellu chaduvuthu
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sad...but IITs lo suicides kottenti...comedy ga Kanpur lo 70's lo suicide capital of India...peer pressure tattukoleka chala mandhi poyaru....

esp ppl who used to go to Gottingen in Germany for a PhD some 7 students died in 2 years.....Germany lo Phd extremely competitive....anduna Gottingen was and still is in some realms mai baap of MIT etc........4 kharagpur students dies in 3 sems or so as they were unable to top their qualifiers............

ippudu ledhu...IITM lo mech is best in India...peer pressure huge...better have the balls to deal.....kurrod cahchipoindhi endhuko thelusa?? subjects tappadhu...andhuku.....which can happen at any other place.........

ippudu IIT lo 9.5 is a peice of shit when compared to the 80's.....kindha paina ramp adinchevaru aa rojullo toughness of papers..actual JEE standard is nonsense now....maa thermoD paper finals was set by a prof in CalTech.....highest score was 22/100....It is not uncommon for IIT profs to have their frnds set papers...they want to give their students the taste of the very best out there
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Elcaminocapastrino:

...iam for suicides....




What you say is true about post-suicide coping but suicides must be prevented, usually too many people's lives are affected by a suicide. not good at all.
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An A$$hole like that being the dean confirms to you about our IITs. The institutions themselves are junk with junk profs,Most of them are lazy post doc faculty position rejects, all they do is collect the best brilliant minds from the nation through a very tough test. .Any US dean stating something like that would be booted from the university. This arrogant piece of $hit should be kicked out right away.

With that said, the IIT students are very brilliant, being brilliant is not normal, sometimes a few of these brilliants minds can have psychological disorders. regular, one to one counseling would be good.
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kamalai,

eeda tarnish emundhi.. evaro suicide chesukunnantha mathram IIT ki undalsina peru podhu...

deans comments were just untimely anthe.
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Kamal:

i would defend my institution and ask people not tarnish its reputation


IIT ni koodaa defend cheskovaalsina karma pattindaa aakhariki.. karmai..
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Pavala:

vaari demudo...iit lo counselling sections kooda unnayaa...



unnayani nenu effudo news lo sadivinaa .. attage anand kuda seppar kada ..
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Humpty_dumpty:

ee sweetness vadhu
good or bad be frank gaa seppu...like u always do



sweetness ledu .. paadu ledu ..

if i was the dean .. i would not spoken the same way .. kaani i would defend my institution and ask people not tarnish its reputation because some poor kid could not handle the pressure .. daaniki patents/stats etc etc avasaram ledu .. especially when there is a very gud chance of ppl trying to crucify the dean for no big fault of his (at this time, that is what we know) without even an investigation ..
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Pavala:

.1.5 yrs akkada elagabettinaa naak ee nijam theliyaledhante


Appudu nuvvu mentally balanced emo shaaraanaa..
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vaari demudo...iit lo counselling sections kooda unnayaa...1.5 yrs akkada elagabettinaa naak ee nijam theliyaledhante kamla ki gundu kotti sunnam raayalsindhe....rail edhi..car edhi...bus edhi...
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Kamal:

the dean who tried to save the reputation of his institution (ofcourse harshly)


ee sweetness vadhu
good or bad be frank gaa seppu...like u always do
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Jujung:

maximum number of patents




Patents M lo pettukuntada manshi sachipote,mental na koduku...
cherapakura chedevu.
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Kamal:

palava .. soodu .. 80s nunche undi ta .. eti sestunnav use seskokunda nuvvu?




palava problem is hatred which cannot be eradicated
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Kamal:

or the dean who tried to save the reputation of his institution




Sorry - I do not agree...The dean's statement was totally uncalled for. "statistically not important " - he is not in that position to treat students as statistics :-(
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sick society. parents are to be blamed for this. Although dean should have put it in a different way, i dont think he should be responsible for this.
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Anand_n:


Sad story - its up to the parents, friends and the support system to make the kids understand that no one milestone is the end of the road in life...to build the resilience to bounce back from setbacks



well said ..

Anand_n:

Psychology counselling IIT lo eppatinuncho undi - from the 80s when my brother was there - and kids even back then used it...



palava .. soodu .. 80s nunche undi ta .. eti sestunnav use seskokunda nuvvu?

Anand_n:

who knows what goes on in their minds...



too bad that people want to kill themselves .. mamulu colleges lo ilanti counselling gatra levu ante nammutaa kaani .. not in IITs .. agreed peer pressure is more .. ofcourse project ni istam vachinattu extend/whatever cheyyadam kuda not acceptable from profs side .. kaani .. suicide is not the resort to address those ani ardam chesukunte baguntundi .. for that people here dont have to rip apart IITs or the system inside it or the dean who tried to save the reputation of his institution (ofcourse harshly) ..
Tarali raada tane vasantam .. tana dariki raani vanaala kosam ..
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Truelies:

India lo psychological related (including depression etc) issues identify chesedi chala takkuva. chesina kooda proper treatment ippinchedi inka takkuva.




idi blanketed statement annai.. Urban areas lo chala proactive ga untunnaru psychological issues vishayam lo..the problem is not with identifying and not getting proper treatement but the patients themselves.. Majority of depressed persons resist treatment. When their loved ones try to get them commit to treatment they either get aggressive or harm themselves..

Mental disorder anedi oka shaapam...adi osthe inka devudi daya.. konni cases nayam avuthayi konni kaavu.. worst thing is - most serious mental disorders tend to happen in brainy people like iitians and doctors.. these guys suffer heavily from fear of failure in living upto expectations.
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Kamal:

project in time submit cheyyaledu ani suicide chesukunnadata .. emanna ardam unda asalu ..




News story anta chadavandi - it was not because of a delay in project submission - it was a delay in geaduation - which would jeopardise his campus placement...

Does that warrant suicide - no , nothing warrants it - but for someone seeing all his life's dreams fall apart - who knows what goes on in their minds...

Psychology counselling IIT lo eppatinuncho undi - from the 80s when my brother was there - and kids even back then used it...

Sad story - its up to the parents, friends and the support system to make the kids understand that no one milestone is the end of the road in life...to build the resilience to bounce back from setbacks:-(
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Kamla:

When asked as to what the Institute in general and Guidance and Counselling Unit (GCU) in particular was doing to address the situation


idhi unnattu kooda sagam mandhiki theliyadh...maa time lo illio...may be der kurrod protest sesi start sesaad emo
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Pavala:



When asked as to what the Institute in general and Guidance and Counselling Unit (GCU) in particular was doing to address the situation
Tarali raada tane vasantam .. tana dariki raani vanaala kosam ..
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...iam for suicides....some people dont find anything exciting in this world to live...so instead of being miserable they die....but these egoistic and narcissistic and humans judge them saying why did they kill themselves...why couldn't they live like us...well they can't....depression is the worst thing to happen to any individual....it will push them into a very dark corner..we dont have hotlines to help these kind of people..and if they r not provided help at right time they kill themselves....and we have to understand them and give them respect n privacy....
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Kamla:

there is counselling available for students in IITs ..



Cinema baaga ravatam ledu ani telisindi ante lite tesukuntaadu....Emi pattinchukodu....dressing, hairstyle, nidra moham tho sets ki ravadam..elantivi quite natural NTR movies ki - Ntr_rocks
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India lo psychological related (including depression etc) issues identify chesedi chala takkuva. chesina kooda proper treatment ippinchedi inka takkuva. mana desam lo veeti annitiki okate peru "mental". ilanti issues unte pakkollu emi anukontaro ane feeling. on top of that- mana janalaki telsina ekaika treatment - pelli.
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Ipc302:

basically we consider failure in education as the students fault and a crime so many people resort to this step....a sad state considering that life is too wonderful to kill yourself over one issue...same thing applies to love suicides too



well said .. chitiki maatiki suicide chesukovadam endo janalu ..

sorry for the poor kid .. kaani cheppina reason chudu .. project in time submit cheyyaledu ani suicide chesukunnadata .. emanna ardam unda asalu .. ??
Tarali raada tane vasantam .. tana dariki raani vanaala kosam ..
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Kamal:

annai .. there is counselling available for students in IITs ..




nee yenks...nenu IIT lo levu ani ekkada annanu...i was talking in general re... i want to know what kind of counsellings we give to students... r these informal talks with proffs or qualified mental-health counselors like they have here in US and A ...avi kooda soodali kadha
basically we consider failure in education as the students fault and a crime so many people resort to this step....a sad state considering that life is too wonderful to kill yourself over one issue...same thing applies to love suicides too
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Ipc302:

there is no provision for counselling in many institutes or issue based counssellors availability....in a society which measures success as the amount of money you make or the campus placement such things will happen ....Don't blame the dean for a poorly worded statement



annai .. there is counselling available for students in IITs ..

IITians unnaru ga DB lo .. they can confirm ..

yeah .. Dean did put it wrongly .. but look at the twist of media in reporting that .. he only wanted to defend the institution he is heading .. 5000 pillalu sariggane chaduvukuntunnaru .. 3 pillalu poyaru .. dont portray it as something is wrong within the college itself ani cheppadu .. as part of the conversation he is having it with the reporter/whoever .. daanni .. vaadu edo muggure kada poindi type lo raayadam !
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Eluri_kurradu:

ante antati prof collegelo counselling gatra undava? akkarleda?



annai .. IITs lo counselling untundi .. ippude kaadu .. eppati nuncho untundi .. kaani manaki counselling ki vellatam is like a shameful thing .. even in IITs, its the same .. intaku mundu .. IIT Kanpur lo suicides jariginappudu kuda same news vachindi .. IITs clarified saying they have systems in place .. vaatini use chesukokunda students undipothe .. colleges emi cheyyagalavu?

IITs lo 3 years back suicides avee jarigithe .. stress reduce cheyyadaniki college networks ni .. after 1AM in the morning .. till 6 AM aapesaru konnallu .. so tat the students have some sleep as most of the students are playing games in the dead of the night .. students malli gola chesaru .. so koddiga relax chesaru anukunta ..

we cannot have it both ways !!!
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Ipc302:

Our administrators need better coaching with public relation issues....

In our society, we don't have sympathy for students who cannot perform...the simple logic is the student is lazy or wayward and so he is not succeeding. also there is no emphasis on mental issues facing students or for that matter anybody. In today' indian society where everything is a rat race such things are bound to happen and considering the vast number of people who succeed through IIT or any other institute, such suicides are considered an aberration to even warrant a discussion. there is no provision for counselling in many institutes or issue based counssellors availability....in a society which measures success as the amount of money you make or the campus placement such things will happen ....Don't blame the dean for a poorly worded statement




Nothing more to agree. Wonderful post.
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Ntr_fan:

personal expectations, parents expectations ..pressure handling...ivi chetakaka suicides chesukunte college vallu emi chestaru?

mana valla kakapothe parents ni convince cheyali...lekapothe kashtapadali...suicide is not easy way out...

ee issue lo emi jarigindo teliyadu...kaani academics paramga avuthe don't blame college...



perfect ga cheppavu ..

manaki chadavadam kastam anukunte .. have to find a way out .. or love/financial probs aithe .. concerned people tho sort chesukovali .. premier institutes lo ki velli kuda life lo pressure ela handle cheyyalo teliyakapovadam .. unfortunate .. kaani college ni blame cheste vaallem chestaru?

mana colleges lo .. suicide attempt/suicide chesukunna vaallu evaru lera? daniki college ne blame chesama?
Tarali raada tane vasantam .. tana dariki raani vanaala kosam ..
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Our administrators need better coaching with public relation issues....

In our society, we don't have sympathy for students who cannot perform...the simple logic is the student is lazy or wayward and so he is not succeeding. also there is no emphasis on mental issues facing students or for that matter anybody. In today' indian society where everything is a rat race such things are bound to happen and considering the vast number of people who succeed through IIT or any other institute, such suicides are considered an aberration to even warrant a discussion. there is no provision for counselling in many institutes or issue based counssellors availability....in a society which measures success as the amount of money you make or the campus placement such things will happen ....Don't blame the dean for a poorly worded statement
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there are 5000 deans in the country. may be he should jump off a cliff
Poster decorations cutouts coconuts garlands ticket prices black ticket prices deficit running time spent praising them idolizing them fighting for them - money, time, and self respect
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sorry to hear, may their souls rest in peace
it happens in every place where there are high expectancies...at least esteemed education institutions like IIT should be proactive and have some structure in place


@dean
yentha mandhi pothay important septhay aa vidham gaa tax payer money adjust sesukundhaam ...ok aa

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Chiru_fan:

kaadu :-), vaallu medhaavulu...mari atti vaariki ee aloochana raavatam venuka kaaranamuleemi




medhavulu kooda bangaraley. bangarulu andariki kopam, tapam, moham, etc anni untay ani der cheppadu phone chesi
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Proline:

iit lo untey vallu manushulu kada?



kaadu :-), vaallu medhaavulu...mari atti vaariki ee aloochana raavatam venuka kaaranamuleemi (P Sai Baba style loo sadhuvukoo)!
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what a surprising way of answering the criticism......

3 deaths statistically important kadhani......statemetn iccheyvaadu.....Dean aa?

venakatiki oka saari maa queen mogudu....duke of Edinburgh......India lo varadalu vacchi.....janaalu poyaru anta kadha.......parledhu le.....meeku chaala janaalu unnaru ga...annadu anta....mana PM tho....

Next day.....queen's office and Blair's office....issued apologies....to our govt.....
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Chiru_fan:

IIT loo suicides yenti kamedy gaa? yenthoo talent vuntee nee kadaa aakkadi daakaa velledi? antha bright life ni yenduku nasanam chesukuntunnar?




3-idiots malooom aapko?

pressure, ragging, personal problems. emina kavachu. iit lo untey vallu manushulu kada?
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Please UNBAN Der!
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Ntr_fan:

personal expectations, parents expectations ..pressure handling...ivi chetakaka suicides chesukunte college vallu emi chestaru?




add peer pressure. on top of that competition. but college vallu ante dean or professor who is dealing with students on day to day basis should be able to identify those and college should have a counseling cell to handle such cases.
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Ntr_fan:


ante antati prof collegelo counselling gatra undava? akkarleda?
I'm not a kurradu :D
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IIT loo suicides yenti kamedy gaa? yenthoo talent vuntee nee kadaa aakkadi daakaa velledi? antha bright life ni yenduku nasanam chesukuntunnar?

calling sambar lovers KKDan and Der kurrod!
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India lo basic problem colleges tho kaadu...

personal expectations, parents expectations ..pressure handling...ivi chetakaka suicides chesukunte college vallu emi chestaru?

mana valla kakapothe parents ni convince cheyali...lekapothe kashtapadali...suicide is not easy way out...

ee issue lo emi jarigindo teliyadu...kaani academics paramga avuthe don't blame college...
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:-(
I'm not a kurradu :D
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:-( :-( so heartrending to hear these stories

As for the dean's statement , how anyone in a responsible position make such insensitive statements :-(
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Jujung:

Why don't you go to other engineering institutes and find out how many died there. Why only IIT?" "




sick soul. WTF he is comparing 'deaths' with other colleges?
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bump der_schuler tamud about ee saambaar director lame comments..mallee tamil akul ante aa akula tho dravier kuttinchi neeku thoduguthaa
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3 suicides in 1 year.. all from mech engg.. 2 in the last 2 months.. both under the same prof Manivannan.. And this is the dean's response..

"dean of students Govardhan M said, "Why are you always reporting negative news about IIT Madras? We also have the maximum number of patents but you didn't report that. But you would want to report the death of 3 out of 5000 students which is statistically not important. Why don't you go to other engineering institutes and find out how many died there. Why only IIT?" "
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/Day-after-su icide-at-IIT-M-blame-game-on/articleshow/8172860.cms

Probably he needs to go back to school and take statistics class again.. along with developing some humanity.
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