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Kindal
Comedian Username: Kindal
Post Number: 1597 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 122.169.169.209
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 04:06 pm: |
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Sanman:anniya samajika nyaayame
anniyya samaajika nyayam gurinsi enta takkuva matladitee antha mansidi  For in India, Bhakti or what may be called the path of devotion or hero-worship, plays a part in its politics unequalled in magnitude by the part it plays in the politics of any other country in the world. Bhakti in religion may be a road to the salvation of the soul. But in politics, Bhakti or hero-worship is a sure road to degradation and to eventual dictatorship. |
   
Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 2235 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 03:52 pm: |
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separate electorate ante anniya samajika nyaayame kadha. ambedkar ki manchi ideas undevi anna maata Hinduism is like a fortune cookie to most Hindus. It has a tradition. You like it. You don't take it too seriously. You don't change your plans based on what is written in it. And the best part of it, you look at it only after your stomach is full. |
   
Kindal
Comedian Username: Kindal
Post Number: 1596 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 122.169.169.209
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 03:30 pm: |
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Uppu:Bottomline enti Ghandi emani decide chesaru
I hav gr8 respect for Gandhi for choosing the path of non-violence. But many of the ideas were not realistic n he still rubbed during freedom struggle. y didnt he face any opposition n y did ppl blindly followed him? Gandhi-Irwin pact chusara? I didnt see any sense in accepting that pact, but still Gandhi did it... still dont understand For in India, Bhakti or what may be called the path of devotion or hero-worship, plays a part in its politics unequalled in magnitude by the part it plays in the politics of any other country in the world. Bhakti in religion may be a road to the salvation of the soul. But in politics, Bhakti or hero-worship is a sure road to degradation and to eventual dictatorship. |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 24849 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 03:23 pm: |
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Uppu:Bottomline enti Ghandi emani decide chesaru
kontha mandiki mahatmudu .. naa lantodiki mamulu manishi with many mistakes .. anedi "naa" opinion .. decisions evariki vaalle teesukunte better anukunta .. Tarali raada tane vasantam .. tana dariki raani vanaala kosam .. |
   
Uppu
Side Hero Username: Uppu
Post Number: 3359 Registered: 11-2007 Posted From: 206.16.32.135
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 03:20 pm: |
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Kamal:. munde ayyadani .. Gopala Krishna Gokhale garu .. kukka d's ettadu .. kinda forst soodu
Bottomline enti Ghandi emani decide chesaru âGenerations to come will scarce believe that such a one as this walked the earth in flesh and blood.â |
   
Kindal
Comedian Username: Kindal
Post Number: 1595 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 122.169.169.209
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 03:19 pm: |
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Mental_sachinodu:kindal annai, nee sleepless night ideas ki inkoti add seyyi, sathuvukunna vallu...adhe well read vallu correst ideas tho diguthaaru ani guarantee eda ninchi vachindhi . like you know Osama was well read . saduvu kathi latidhi, kooralu vandali anukunnodu, sethulu kosukunda egetables and meat cut seyagaladu, thalalu narakalanukunnodu ..same to same sesthadu
annai aa time lo India ni ela develop seyyali, wat is India's future ani chala mandi study chesaru, but ekkada chusina Gandhi said this, Gandhi proposed this antaru kaani, migatha vallu national development kosam chesina proposals/literature ni researcher/scholars chadavadam tappa enduku paniki rakundaa poyyayi. Y didnt we accept the other ideas? Gandhi japam enduku chesam manam? For in India, Bhakti or what may be called the path of devotion or hero-worship, plays a part in its politics unequalled in magnitude by the part it plays in the politics of any other country in the world. Bhakti in religion may be a road to the salvation of the soul. But in politics, Bhakti or hero-worship is a sure road to degradation and to eventual dictatorship. |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 24846 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 03:14 pm: |
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Mental_sachinodu:Godse sampithe Gandhi devudu ayyaada
kaadu anukunta .. munde ayyadani .. Gopala Krishna Gokhale garu .. kukka d's ettadu .. kinda forst soodu ..  Kindal:Gandhi never did any study/research like wat BG Tilak or Dr. Ambedkar did. But he still pressed for his ideas n rubbed them on ppl wit support from Nehru & INC. hw did he conclude that those ideas were better than the ideas from well read? y did others back him? this question has been giving me sleepless nights
you will continue to have those sleepless nights for years to come .. Kindal:I read some books where Gandhi's ideas of Constructive works were implemented by his followers which transformed many. I will share that later
Tammud .. I read both Hind Swaraj and My experiments with truth .. and I loved Hind Swaraj .. but not that much for the latter .. some of his ideas do rock .. I agree .. but some of his other ones .. sucked equally ! as a matter of fact !! Kindal:Gandhi was not part of govt., n has no idea on Geopolitics, so Gandhi ni easy ga li8 teeskune vallu.
LOL .. eppudu teesukogaligaaru cheppu?? Pak ki 54 crores money ivvamante teesukogaligaara? Khalifat movement ki support ante oppose cheyyagaligaara? non co-operation movement .. repati nunchi bandh ante .. ledu we will continue non co-operation annara?? when did somebody overrule Gandhi and his ideas??? Tarali raada tane vasantam .. tana dariki raani vanaala kosam .. |
   
Mental_sachinodu
Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu
Post Number: 5363 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 03:09 pm: |
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Kindal:But he still pressed for his ideas n rubbed them on ppl wit support from Nehru & INC. hw did he conclude that those ideas were better than the ideas from well read?
kindal annai, nee sleepless night ideas ki inkoti add seyyi, sathuvukunna vallu...adhe well read vallu correst ideas tho diguthaaru ani guarantee eda ninchi vachindhi . like you know Osama was well read . saduvu kathi latidhi, kooralu vandali anukunnodu, sethulu kosukunda egetables and meat cut seyagaladu, thalalu narakalanukunnodu ..same to same sesthadu the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
Kindal
Comedian Username: Kindal
Post Number: 1591 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 122.169.169.209
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 03:05 pm: |
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Kamal:How do we know? he was against having a military .. gatti ga aithe .. Kashmir ni icheyyandi ani fasting chese aayana emo? kaani had Gandhi lived longer .. India would have been lot different anataaniki matram .. nenu oppukuntanu ..
I read some books where Gandhi's ideas of Constructive works were implemented by his followers which transformed many. I will share that later Gandhi was not part of govt., n has no idea on Geopolitics, so Gandhi ni easy ga li8 teeskune vallu. Gandhi never did any study/research like wat BG Tilak or Dr. Ambedkar did. But he still pressed for his ideas n rubbed them on ppl wit support from Nehru & INC. hw did he conclude that those ideas were better than the ideas from well read? y did others back him? this question has been giving me sleepless nights For in India, Bhakti or what may be called the path of devotion or hero-worship, plays a part in its politics unequalled in magnitude by the part it plays in the politics of any other country in the world. Bhakti in religion may be a road to the salvation of the soul. But in politics, Bhakti or hero-worship is a sure road to degradation and to eventual dictatorship. |
   
Mental_sachinodu
Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu
Post Number: 5361 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 03:05 pm: |
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Mental_sachinodu:edhi mana â¢â¢â¢â¢ ni siluva ekkinsi juice thappu sesinatta
db lo devudi peru type sesthe kooda sukkalu paduthunnayi... kalikalam ante idhena kamalai  the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
Mental_sachinodu
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Post Number: 5359 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 03:04 pm: |
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Kamal:Godse would have repented that his murder made Gandhi larger than life and created a cult for him ..
Godse sampithe Gandhi devudu ayyaada, edhi mana ni siluva ekkinsi juice thappu sesinatta the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 24844 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 02:56 pm: |
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Kindal:But it was unfortunate that Godse killed him. Just like millions of Hindus, Godse too was furious abt partition & mass killing of Hindus.
I agree .. Godse should not have vented out his anger like that .. whatever his reasons are .. looking at the end result .. Godse would have repented that his murder made Gandhi larger than life and created a cult for him .. Kindal: Had he lived atleast 3-4 yrs after independence you wud hav seen a huge progressive India by now.
How do we know? he was against having a military .. gatti ga aithe .. Kashmir ni icheyyandi ani fasting chese aayana emo? kaani had Gandhi lived longer .. India would have been lot different anataaniki matram .. nenu oppukuntanu .. Cocanada:His only complaint was that indians were treated as black. he WAS a racist himself. But he may not have been a racist his entire life.
nobody said he was a racist his entire life .. aa SA episode gurinchi matladinappudu chepparu adi anthe .. Tarali raada tane vasantam .. tana dariki raani vanaala kosam .. |
   
Cocanada
Legend Username: Cocanada
Post Number: 30561 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 168.244.164.254
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 02:49 pm: |
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Kamal:nallollani racist remarks chesadu ani thread esthe delete seyinche varaku oogutaru ..
yeah. in the beginning of his career in S.Africa His only complaint was that indians were treated as black. he WAS a racist himself. But he may not have been a racist his entire life. Kadapa |
   
Kindal
Comedian Username: Kindal
Post Number: 1587 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 122.169.169.209
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 02:49 pm: |
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Kamal:ee mukke nenu chepte .. nannu Gandhi hater ani bhrama padi branding sestunnaru .. nuvvu kuda naa pakkana vachi kurcho ..
ee DB lo aaku ki reku ki thedaa telisina intelectuals kooda branding sestunnara
Kamal:tammud .. you are posting gr8 stuff .. which the so called gandhi fans cannot digest .. lite teesuko .. evadu respond avvadu .. ade .. gandhi .. nallollani racist remarks chesadu ani thread esthe delete seyinche varaku oogutaru ..
bro post independent India ki Gandhi had gr8 plans. I support his idea of non-violence. Had he lived atleast 3-4 yrs after independence you wud hav seen a huge progressive India by now. But it was unfortunate that Godse killed him. Just like millions of Hindus, Godse too was furious abt partition & mass killing of Hindus. Though we had very good intellectual base after independence, we never cared for them n rather adopted slavery. Lets discuss post Independent India later. I never understood what MKG meant by Equality. For in India, Bhakti or what may be called the path of devotion or hero-worship, plays a part in its politics unequalled in magnitude by the part it plays in the politics of any other country in the world. Bhakti in religion may be a road to the salvation of the soul. But in politics, Bhakti or hero-worship is a sure road to degradation and to eventual dictatorship. |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 24839 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 02:36 pm: |
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Kindal:My point is Gandhi never listened to anyone. Wit da support he had from ppl, he rubbed his ideas on nation many of which were not fruitful
ee mukke nenu chepte .. nannu Gandhi hater ani bhrama padi branding sestunnaru .. nuvvu kuda naa pakkana vachi kurcho ..  Kindal:There were many indicators that Gandhian ideas were not acceptable for idea, but still INC pressed for it, which lead to delayed Swaraj to Bharath
tammud .. you are posting gr8 stuff .. which the so called gandhi fans cannot digest .. lite teesuko .. evadu respond avvadu .. ade .. gandhi .. nallollani racist remarks chesadu ani thread esthe delete seyinche varaku oogutaru ..  Tarali raada tane vasantam .. tana dariki raani vanaala kosam .. |
   
Kindal
Comedian Username: Kindal
Post Number: 1583 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 122.169.169.209
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 02:10 pm: |
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Quote :- Gopal Krishna Ghokle was among the first to criticize Gandhi or the 'Gandhi cult' since it `sought to replace the present government by no government or by the priestly autocracy of the Mahatma.'. His criticism of Gandhi was persistent beginning with Gandhi's arrival in India and open in 1921 session of the Indian National Congress he delivered in his presidential speech a severe criticism of Gandhi's ideas as based on magic rather than logic, addressing Gandhi: 'You wanted magic. I tried to give you logic. But logic is in bad odour when the popular mind is excited. You wanted mantaram, I am not a Rishi and cannot give Mantaram...I have never spoken a half-truth when I know the truth...I have never tried to lead people in faith blind-folded',[7] for his 'priestly, pontifical tendencies', his alliance with pan-Islamism during the Khilafat movement, which led to Pal's eclipse from political life from 1922 till his death in 1932 under conditions of abject poverty. Comparing Gandhi with Leo Tolstoy during the year he died, Pal noted that Tolstoy 'was an honest philosophical anarchist' while Gandhi remained in his eyes as 'a papal autocrat' ------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------- There were many indicators that Gandhian ideas were not acceptable for idea, but still INC pressed for it, which lead to delayed Swaraj to Bharath For in India, Bhakti or what may be called the path of devotion or hero-worship, plays a part in its politics unequalled in magnitude by the part it plays in the politics of any other country in the world. Bhakti in religion may be a road to the salvation of the soul. But in politics, Bhakti or hero-worship is a sure road to degradation and to eventual dictatorship. |
   
Kindal
Comedian Username: Kindal
Post Number: 1582 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 122.169.169.209
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 02:06 pm: |
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y was MK Gandhi so against this representation of untouchables by untouchables? Quote :- Bala gangadar Tilak saw the spark in Gandhi and tried his best to convince Gandhi to leave the idea of "total Ahimsa" and try to get "Swarajya" by all means. Gandhi though looked upon him as his guru, did not change his mind. My point is Gandhi never listened to anyone. Wit da support he had from ppl, he rubbed his ideas on nation many of which were not fruitful For in India, Bhakti or what may be called the path of devotion or hero-worship, plays a part in its politics unequalled in magnitude by the part it plays in the politics of any other country in the world. Bhakti in religion may be a road to the salvation of the soul. But in politics, Bhakti or hero-worship is a sure road to degradation and to eventual dictatorship. |
   
Kindal
Comedian Username: Kindal
Post Number: 1581 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 122.169.169.209
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 01:56 pm: |
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Due to Ambedkar's prominence and popular support amongst the untouchable community, he was invited to attend the Second Round Table Conference in London in 1932. Gandhi fiercely opposed separate electorate for untouchables, though he accepted separate electorate for all other minority groups such as Muslims and Sikhs, saying he feared that separate electorates for untouchables would divide Hindu society for future and dilute the power of upper castes. When the British agreed with Ambedkar and announced the awarding of separate electorates, Gandhi began a fast while imprisoned in the Yerwada Central Jail of Pune in 1932 against the separate electorate for untouchables only. Gandhi's fast provoked huge civil unrest across India, and orthodox Hindu leaders, Congress politicians and activists such as Madan Mohan Malaviya and Palwankar Baloo organized joint meetings with Ambedkar and his supporters at Yeravada. Fearing a communal reprisal and genocide of untouchables, Ambedkar agreed under massive coercion from the supporters of Gandhi. This agreement, which saw Gandhi end his fast, was called the Poona Pact. As a result of the agreement, Ambdekar dropped the demand for separate electorates that was promised through the British Communal Award prior to Ambedkar's meeting with Gandhi. Instead, a certain number of seats were reserved specifically for untouchables (in the agreement, called the "Depressed Class"). For in India, Bhakti or what may be called the path of devotion or hero-worship, plays a part in its politics unequalled in magnitude by the part it plays in the politics of any other country in the world. Bhakti in religion may be a road to the salvation of the soul. But in politics, Bhakti or hero-worship is a sure road to degradation and to eventual dictatorship. |