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Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 24726 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011 - 03:01 pm: |
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Anand_n: BTW, Zakir/Shivkumar concert was phenomenal, deggira lo unte miss avvakandi
sure andi .. Thanks a lot ! Great that your son liked it ..  |
   
Anand_n
Side Hero Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 9342 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011 - 03:00 pm: |
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Kamal:
BTW, Zakir/Shivkumar concert was phenomenal, deggira lo unte miss avvakandi Ma peddodiki - Indian instrumental asalu exposure ledu but he sat entranced for the 2.5 hours  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 24725 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011 - 02:55 pm: |
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Anand_n: Oka level of maturity vachaka multiple versions chadavatam veru - childhood lo when belief is forming - contradictory stories chadavatam veru If the parents are able to show them how the morals converge , well and good - but half the time parents do not know all the versions, which kids can pull up from Google either
You are right .. its the parents/teachers/society (which I consider as teachers as well) needs to know what is the essence of the epics, if they want their children to learn from those very epics .. Basky_indya:basic ga hindusim ante bhayam lekunda pothondi.
ee bhayam business endi basky annai? closed mindsets ni develop cheyyalsina avasaram ledu anukuntunna .. |
   
Anand_n
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Post Number: 9341 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011 - 02:45 pm: |
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Kamal: IMO .. there is no need to sit together and decide "portrayal" ..
Oka level of maturity vachaka multiple versions chadavatam veru - childhood lo when belief is forming - contradictory stories chadavatam veru If the parents are able to show them how the morals converge , well and good - but half the time parents do not know all the versions, which kids can pull up from Google either But like you said - its a matter of opinion And then maybe it is good for belief not to be set in stone in the formative years and let it evolve when people are mature enough I guess I see the pros and cons of both sides aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Basky_indya
Megastar Username: Basky_indya
Post Number: 24689 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 76.187.247.121
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011 - 02:28 pm: |
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basic ga hindusim ante bhayam lekunda pothondi. idhey cartton bommal,crosss gurinchey matladithey rallu teeeskuni kodithey.. sacchinattu moooskuni padi untaru or hindusim/buddhisum loki convert authar. kRUshITHO nAsthee dURbhikSHAM!! JP_ROCKS: ...der unte enchakka andarni giant wheel ekkistadu..girrr mani oogachu.. |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 24722 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011 - 02:24 pm: |
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Anand_n:These are not the old days where people got to hear only one version of the story and took it as gospel - now they have access to all the versions and the contradictions are confounding to most people- faith generally cannot deal very well with contradictions
I guess .. this part is wrong with Hinduism .. even since olden days .. people read many many versions .. and still Hinduism ki vachina problem emi ledu .. I guess .. the beauty of Hinduism lies in its divergence of views in its epics .. while the morals converge .. ! IMO .. there is no need to sit together and decide "portrayal" .. |
   
Anand_n
Side Hero Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 9339 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011 - 01:14 pm: |
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I think the time is fast approaching where a think tank of hindu gurus needs to get together to agree on the image of Krishna they need to portray - okallu gopikas are not real , they are senses and desires ante , inkollu how is romance possible Krishna was 8 when he left Vrindavan antaru, okavaipu Radha Krishna's relationship as portrayed Geeta Govinda , inko vaipu Radha is a manifestation of Sakthi so the pre-marital relationship is non-physical ani cheppevallu... These are not the old days where people got to hear only one version of the story and took it as gospel - now they have access to all the versions and the contradictions are confounding to most people- faith generally cannot deal very well with contradictions  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Getafix
Side Hero Username: Getafix
Post Number: 8401 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011 - 11:54 am: |
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Vjavasi:idhedo Marxist dilectical analysis laaga vundhi
Marxist analysis kaadu oka maadiri psychoanalysis of male ego annattu.. male ego etluntadi ante - if you aint getting the dough you make sure nobody gets it.. so aa prespective lo chusthe - obviously some males during Krsna time got jealous and monogamy ni heavy ga push chesar and they made sure that future gens dont have to go thru the pain that they had to go through. |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 24717 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011 - 11:50 am: |
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Vjavasi: idhedo Marxist dilectical analysis laaga vundhi
 Vjavasi:there is no material dimension of time since there is no degradation or decay.....
Aadi antamu lenidi kaalamu antaru aithe .. |
   
Ringo_rangaswamy
Junior Artist Username: Ringo_rangaswamy
Post Number: 82 Registered: 02-2011 Posted From: 205.153.87.202
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011 - 11:47 am: |
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vjavasi babai, ee type lo leputhaavani threaddu title choosi voohinchalaa |
   
Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 8018 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.59
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011 - 11:34 am: |
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Getafix:may be Krsna time lo society open ga undedemo.. i mean very liberal and outgoing where males and females have equal rights in choosing partners. Obviously some guys got jealous that they were not chosen by fems... so they made monogamy a moral standard.
idhedo Marxist dilectical analysis laaga vundhi |
   
Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 8017 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.59
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011 - 11:32 am: |
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Kamal:so what is the meaning of uni-dimensional motion of time? or that notion itself is wrong antara?
there is no material dimension of time since there is no degradation or decay.....according to scriptures in spiritual world one can dance and sing or do whatever they want to do for eternity |
   
Getafix
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Post Number: 8397 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011 - 11:27 am: |
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may be Krsna time lo society open ga undedemo.. i mean very liberal and outgoing where males and females have equal rights in choosing partners. Obviously some guys got jealous that they were not chosen by fems... so they made monogamy a moral standard. |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 24715 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011 - 11:27 am: |
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Vjavasi:
antha mandi anni different places/times lo exist avutunnaru anedi .. interesting thought .. so what is the meaning of uni-dimensional motion of time? or that notion itself is wrong antara? btw .. ee spiritual Ayodhya, Vrindavan, Mathura .. how do they exist today? Bhagavatam lo cheppinattu parallel worlds aa? |
   
Vjavasi
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Post Number: 8016 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.59
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011 - 11:20 am: |
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Kamal:Annamayya
may be in vaikuntam
Kamal:Ramadasu
may be in spiritual Ayodhya
Kamal:Kuchela
may be with krishna |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 24712 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011 - 11:13 am: |
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Vjavasi: may be in goloka vrindavan with krishna
cool .. where is Annamayya, Ramadasu and Kuchela? |
   
Vjavasi
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Post Number: 8015 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.59
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011 - 10:59 am: |
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Kamal:ante .. where is Meera bai annai today?
may be in goloka vrindavan with krishna |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 24709 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011 - 10:56 am: |
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Vjavasi:in bhakthi tradition there is no merger with God, devotees continue their relationship with God in his abode
ante .. where is Meera bai annai today? |
   
Chivuks
Hero Username: Chivuks
Post Number: 10227 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 173.39.69.251
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011 - 10:55 am: |
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Kamal:Krishna ki .. Nitya ki polika?? physical dimension leni love ki .. vonly physics and chemistry matrame involve aina Bi.P.C exferiments ki link ekkada undi?
Just like PSB proclaimed he is a manifestation of siva and sakthi ... Nityanand claimed that he is a manifestation of krishna ... before the VDO was out .. Nitya had a lot of devotees all over the world .... it was same kind of adulation, if not more, for Ntya also .. why are you degrading him?? Zandu balm .. Zandu balm .. kondaru fans ki Noppi kalginche balm .. |
   
Vjavasi
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Post Number: 8014 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.59
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011 - 10:54 am: |
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Chivuks: endhi saami .. just like the way ... meera ba/andal etc., worshipped krishna ... even ranjitha and others worshpped their version of krishna .. how can you dilute/degrade their bhakth ... adh bakth kada??
Nityananda Govardana giri ni kaani, himalayas ni kaani chitikina velitho ettinappudu krishna to compare chedham |
   
Vjavasi
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Post Number: 8013 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.59
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011 - 10:52 am: |
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Kamal:sweetest relationship ki .. consort/in love kind of relationship ee enduku undaali? Krishna ki Kuchela ki unna relationship ki .. Krishna ki Yashoda ki unna relationship ki .. Krishna ki Arjuna ki unna relationship ki .. Krishna ki Radha, Gopika, Satyabhama laki unna relationship ki .. theda undi .. but how can we say .. ye relationship is "more sweeter" based on the personal equation does not matter anukuntunna naa opinion lo ..
conjugal relationship lo nuvvu cheppina anni relationships vuntaayi (freindship,parental love, daasyamu)..anduke adhi top most ani antaaru....in bhakthi tradition there is no merger with God, devotees continue their relationship with God in his abode |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 24708 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011 - 10:51 am: |
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Chivuks:just like the way ... meera ba/andal etc., worshipped krishna ... even ranjitha and others worshpped their version of krishna .. how can you dilute/degrade their bhakth ... adh bakth kada??
Krishna ki .. Nitya ki polika?? physical dimension leni love ki .. vonly physics and chemistry matrame involve aina Bi.P.C exferiments ki link ekkada undi?  |
   
Chivuks
Hero Username: Chivuks
Post Number: 10225 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 173.39.69.251
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011 - 10:48 am: |
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Kamal:ee kacheri vere ravindra bharati lo pettukovachu ga ..
endhi saami .. just like the way ... meera ba/andal etc., worshipped krishna ... even ranjitha and others worshpped their version of krishna .. how can you dilute/degrade their bhakth ... adh bakth kada?? Zandu balm .. Zandu balm .. kondaru fans ki Noppi kalginche balm .. |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 24706 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011 - 10:44 am: |
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Chivuks:even modern age swamijis and babas are also ... mixing and grinding bhakthi and rakthi together ...
ee kacheri vere ravindra bharati lo pettukovachu ga ..  |
   
Chivuks
Hero Username: Chivuks
Post Number: 10223 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 173.39.69.251
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011 - 10:42 am: |
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Vjavasi:devotees like meerabhai, Andal worshped Lord in such mood
yeah ... even modern age swamijis and babas are also ... mixing and grinding bhakthi and rakthi together ... occassionally they have prb like nityanand though ... Zandu balm .. Zandu balm .. kondaru fans ki Noppi kalginche balm .. |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 24705 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011 - 10:42 am: |
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Vjavasi: How can exchanges between God and devotee be sweetest without some personal relationship between them.......while a devotee can have father or master relationship with other avataras the relationship with krishna goes further to conjugal relationship between God and devotee......devotees like meerabhai, Andal worshped Lord in such mood
sweetest relationship ki .. consort/in love kind of relationship ee enduku undaali? Krishna ki Kuchela ki unna relationship ki .. Krishna ki Yashoda ki unna relationship ki .. Krishna ki Arjuna ki unna relationship ki .. Krishna ki Radha, Gopika, Satyabhama laki unna relationship ki .. theda undi .. but how can we say .. ye relationship is "more sweeter" based on the personal equation does not matter anukuntunna naa opinion lo .. Ramudini ni kolichina Tyagaraju, Ramadasu ki .. Krishna ni kolichina Meera/Andal ki theda undi ani anukovatledu nenu .. the connect with the divine soul is important rather than how it is connected .. kaadantara? |
   
Vjavasi
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Post Number: 8012 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.59
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011 - 10:32 am: |
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Kamal:suppose .. for suppose .. I have seen .. devotees of Hanuman, Rama and Ayyappa .. who believe that those divine souls are the "Supreme Absolute Truth" .. and they do not have the so called controversies, like how the writer put it .. but still they are the sweetest .. isnt it ..
How can exchanges between God and devotee be sweetest without some personal relationship between them.......while a devotee can have father or master relationship with other avataras the relationship with krishna goes further to conjugal relationship between God and devotee......devotees like meerabhai, Andal worshped Lord in such mood |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 24702 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011 - 10:24 am: |
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Vjavasi:How can the Supreme Absolute Truth be all-attractive without personal loving affairs, of the sweetest type?
naku ee point tappa ... vere matter tho problem ledu .. suppose .. for suppose .. I have seen .. devotees of Hanuman, Rama and Ayyappa .. who believe that those divine souls are the "Supreme Absolute Truth" .. and they do not have the so called controversies, like how the writer put it .. but still they are the sweetest .. isnt it .. I dont want to cleanse or distort Krishna's life .. but my point is .. ivi unna kuda sare Krishna is sweet anatam varaku correct .. kaani avi unnayi kabatte sweet ante .. different faces unna divine personalities sangati enti? |
   
Chivuks
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Post Number: 10221 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 173.39.69.251
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011 - 10:22 am: |
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nenu kuda SSK emo anukuni lagethuku vacha ... the more complcated is the logic, the more the apprehensions that even the author does NOT understand the point behind the logic ... Zandu balm .. Zandu balm .. kondaru fans ki Noppi kalginche balm .. |
   
Truelies
Side Hero Username: Truelies
Post Number: 7420 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 170.35.208.22
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011 - 10:07 am: |
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nenu inka super star krishna emo anukoni vacha...
 www.prajarajyam.org - The account has been suspended. |
   
Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 8010 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.59
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011 - 10:04 am: |
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Nice explanation http://www.facebook.com/notes/devamrita-swami/the-krishna-pr oblem/212434845452987 "Why does Krishna sport in amorous pastimes, when so many persons can misunderstand these affairs, especially in India," a devotee asked me. In other words, wouldn't it be better for Krishna's public image and profile, if He were more, say, lackluster or indifferent in certain departments? Then no controversies, no complications to agitate mundane minds and their conceptions—people could more easily accept Him, unencumbered by doubts or confusion. My answer: How can the Supreme Absolute Truth be perfect and complete unless pure, divine romance is included? Krishna is the supreme enjoyer, so why "emasculate Him"—that is, strip Him of His internal potencies and His internal affairs? People commonly acknowledge God's creative, maintaining, and destructive potencies, so why seek to deprive the Complete Whole of His potencies for exchanging pure love with His pure parts? If you're actually a theist, then let's admit to the whole package. How can the Supreme Absolute Truth be all-attractive without personal loving affairs, of the sweetest type? If indeed Krishna is the source of everything, then the trail of all relationship expressions we experience in the material world leads back to Him, the ultimate origin. Without our understanding the full gamut of divine personalism in perfection, we have no choice but to remain attracted to the insubstantial, shadowy relationships of material existence. Hence, while praising God for His creative majesty or impersonal omnipresence, we will remain hopelessly embedded in mundane affairs of the heart. |