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Ashton:

But what I saw from my experience is that Quality matters a lot when you compare $40/hr guy and $100/hr guy..




US consulting companies charge min of $175ph to a max of $300ph. Daantlo atleast 50% of the consultants are fit for noting. They don't even add a value of 1/3 of their billing.

So edo US based companies lo quality vuntundhi and desi companies lo vundadhu annadhi myth. It's subjective.
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India lo jobs create cheyyali...As long as India depends on US companies for jobs, situation inthe vuntundi...Future lo US economy inka down ayite reverse outsourcing valla India lo okka job vundadu.......People who are graduating from Indian colleges/universities should think about investing in start-ups, not just getting a job in Infosys,TCS,wipro or any American company....


lol ee lokam lo unnavayya nuvvu inkaa, today every economy is dependent on other economies. It is all networked. Repu Chinese economy padukunte it will hit USA, Indian economy padukunte it will hit USA, not just vice versa. No body is dependent on any one. Services is miniscule in Indian GDP, India is a self contained economy and nothing will happen. Maha aithe Software jobs vadilesi polam panulu choosukuntaaru anthe
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Not everyone from tcs/infy is a gem. the same applies to local consultants..ofcourse tana talent telisina vadu ettago demand chestadu salary etc..so light teesukondi..emi teliyani vadiki 65k chaalu anipistundu..anni telisina vadiki adi takkuva anipistundi..inka family dependencies unte kontamandi 65k icchina tappaka pani chestaru though they are talented..so light disco
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ashton tamud how r u, speeding tickets count ettu
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Fidelity:

Imagine such scenario, where hundred of thousands are graduating every year and literally no jobs.




India lo jobs create cheyyali...As long as India depends on US companies for jobs, situation inthe vuntundi...Future lo US economy inka down ayite reverse outsourcing valla India lo okka job vundadu.......People who are graduating from Indian colleges/universities should think about investing in start-ups, not just getting a job in Infosys,TCS,wipro or any American company....



Fidelity:

Ekkada sollu kaburlu cheppi gantaki $250 dobbe tellodu evvadu paniki raadu aa talents ki. Indian companies get lot of work done for $50. Obviously as in very business and company, there are loopholes. kaani avi pattukoni, generalize cheyyatam too bad.




I'm not generalizing...But what I saw from my experience is that Quality matters a lot when you compare $40/hr guy and $100/hr guy..
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Yep. Thakkuva rate isthaamu ani mundu matladthe it is fine. Indian companies good for people who are in India. But people who have worked overseas find it hard in the desi companies. Mainly kakkurti ekkuva. Market lo $90 billing unna project ni $50 ki offer chesi, they will have a fresher getting trained in India.


Anni nerchukodaaniki Indian companies paniki vastayai, nerchukunnaka billing entha vachedi entha ani discussions lol

Ee Billing and chetiki vachedi lekkese vallaku first few years USA lo elaa undedo alochiste better, Indian companies are a platform for people to come to USA with out many hassles. Avanni marchipotaam as usual gaa once we get some experience.

Every company is playing a role in your career.

How many can demand 150K$ for Functional Consultant role in USA and get his Visa sponsored, if he is working in India currently?? US raavadaniki platform kaavali, but vallu sweat shops aipotaaru vachaaka lol
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Ashton:

SAP finance functional consultant ki $70k istunnaru...I guess client daggara anni vendors kante these Indian companies thakkuva charge chestaru......functional consultant ki $70k endi babu..I know people who get paid $140k-$150k as a functional consultant(they don't work for Indian companies)... developers nights and weekends work chestaru for $65k salary.....and I know few offshore people who are not happy with their salaries are planning to switch to a different company that offers more pay than these sweatshops..


Ee role lo ainaa extreemes untaayi,

TCS or Infy lo pani chese Functional Consultant ki akkada Local gaa pani chese consultant ki Skills okatenaa??
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Maverick:

i had a smilar experience..but long term annaka, i took what they gave initially..after 2-3 months, client daggara weight gain chesaka, i am leaving if u dont increase ani cheppa..naaku ok ok we will get approval from practice ani, client ni approach ayyaru with a new guy, client no annaka inka chesedi leka they increased.


Yep. Thakkuva rate isthaamu ani mundu matladthe it is fine. Indian companies good for people who are in India. But people who have worked overseas find it hard in the desi companies. Mainly kakkurti ekkuva. Market lo $90 billing unna project ni $50 ki offer chesi, they will have a fresher getting trained in India.
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Kadapafan:

Slavesaa?? elaa Slaves??


SAP finance functional consultant ki $70k istunnaru...I guess client daggara anni vendors kante these Indian companies thakkuva charge chestaru......functional consultant ki $70k endi babu..I know people who get paid $140k-$150k as a functional consultant(they don't work for Indian companies)... developers nights and weekends work chestaru for $65k salary.....and I know few offshore people who are not happy with their salaries are planning to switch to a different company that offers more pay than these sweatshops..
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i had a smilar experience..but long term annaka, i took what they gave initially..after 2-3 months, client daggara weight gain chesaka, i am leaving if u dont increase ani cheppa..naaku ok ok we will get approval from practice ani, client ni approach ayyaru with a new guy, client no annaka inka chesedi leka they increased.
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Evadi interest vaadidi, evadi business model vaadidi

Direct gaa Contract chese vaadiki 150$ vaste, employee gaa chese vaadiki anthe raavali anukovadam moorkhatvam

Firstly TCS or who ever will be taking risk. H1 meeda US ki pampiste aa project dobbithe India ki teesukochi meputaaru on bench or what ever u call it, aa risk employer teesukunte benefits lo employer ki share enduku pokoodadu?

Secondly Contract basis meeda market baagunte tappa continuous gaa work cheyyadam kastam, Ella kaalam technical gaane undaali, if people had difft interests TCS or some one can show some sort of career growth in what they want to do. Contract meeda pani cheste emostundi tokka??

Thirdly Market will keep correcting all the time. Oka panini okadu 150$ ki cheste inkokadu 50$ ki cheste with same quality, then it says 150$ is higher on that kind of job.

Airtel kottagaa vachinappudu, nenu first konnappudu I used to spend some 10rs for outgoing and some 5rs or so on incoming, ippudu migataa competitors vachi Airtel ni sankanaakinchaaru ani cheppala??
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Naaku oka project vachindi Tech Mahindra tho. Long term contract, consulting opportunity. They were not getting anyone to start in 2 weeks for the position and India lo H1/L1 mida raavataniki resources leru due to stamping etc issues. Interview ayindi, paper work cheyyali. Aa time lo billing rate beram modalupettaru, we cannot pay you this much adi idi ani. I told them I can go down $3 less. They said ok. Evening HR called. $20 thagginchukuntaava ani adigaadu. I said munde ee rate enduku matladaledu. Interview etc chesi na time enduku waste chesaaru. The reply I got was, you are a back-up for us. Maaku India lo resources evaru stamped leru, client needs someone asap. We are trying in India to get someone. Evaru dorkakapothe you might have to join.

I told them, thank you for letting me know. I dont think am interested in the project since cant go down on billing. Secondly, billing ippudu ichina, you guys will continue to search in India and when you find someone, you are going to take me off.
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Ashton:

They are just hiring slaves for their sweatshop business...




Nee badha ento ardham kaadu naaku. Evaranna vallani balavantham ga work cheyistunnara? It's mutual benefit. The main reason for outsourcing model is cost-benefits. So desi companies will have to quote less to get business. If these companies don't quote less, there will be no projects in India.

Imagine such scenario, where hundred of thousands are graduating every year and literally no jobs.

I think you are too pessimistic. We should all consider ourselves lucky to be here, but not that we are talented to be here. There are real gems of guys working for Indian companies.

Ekkada sollu kaburlu cheppi gantaki $250 dobbe tellodu evvadu paniki raadu aa talents ki. Indian companies get lot of work done for $50. Obviously as in very business and company, there are loopholes. kaani avi pattukoni, generalize cheyyatam too bad.
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ippudu bagane undi pay scale..65k istgaru..thats better than what ms grads get working with desi consultants..okkapudu aite tax returns kooda valle teesukunevallata
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Ashton:

desi companies like Infosys,TCS,Wipro meeda chinna chupu...They are just hiring slaves for their sweatshop business...




Chese vadiki leni Baada..Cheyinchukune vadiki enduku vuntadi..? Koddiga alochinchu
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Indian companies worst na matta gallu

20% of workers need to feed 80% of bench/freshers pool
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Ashton:

desis meeda chinna chupu kadu..I feel sad for them....
desi companies like Infosys,TCS,Wipro meeda chinna chupu...They are just hiring slaves for their sweatshop business...


Slavesaa?? elaa Slaves??
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desis meeda chinna chupu kadu..I feel sad for them....
desi companies like Infosys,TCS,Wipro meeda chinna chupu...They are just hiring slaves for their sweatshop business...
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Ashton:

groceries purchase kosam 2-3 miles nadichi techukuntaru....what a pathetic life man? Do you really deserve that lifestyle?



Dude, neeku desi gaallu evaraina enduku intha chinna choopu. Not everyone had that kind of life. Nenu TCS lo unnapudu, we get paid $1800 p/m (after taxes). That was about $36K gross. Still we drove used cars and enjoyed life.
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groceries purchase kosam 2-3 miles nadichi techukuntaru....what a pathetic life man? Do you really deserve that lifestyle?




Vaarini TCS lo work naaku telisina vallaki Car lu vunnayi...car lekapoyina pakkane grocery stores vunnayi....

mari 2-3 miles walk groceries kosam ante....Ee Village lo vuntunnaru...
TeenMaar Collections daarunangaa unnayi. A Centres lo Shakti kanna better openings, B,C lo wash out. Nijam and Overseaslo Shakti kanna ekkuva vastundi. Ceded lo Shakti will be more. Andhra lo pedda tedaa undadu, very minor difference-KadapaFan
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Platypus:

TCS ayinaa Infy ayinaa okate... light teesuko.



IBM India kooda anthe mama...60-65K istharu developers ki...
Functional ki 75-80K istharu...
Yetti chaakiri, politics, naakudu ivvanni common Indian companies lo...
Virakthi denks..
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Ruj:

TCS okate alanaa..leka cognizant, infosys etc kooda anthe naa?




anni anthey. except in a case called usa-hire. technically usa-tcs, usa-infy is different from desam tcs,infy guys
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groceries purchase kosam 2-3 miles nadichi techukuntaru....what a pathetic life man? Do you really deserve that lifestyle?




TCS okate alanaa..leka cognizant, infosys etc kooda anthe naa?
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groceries purchase kosam 2-3 miles nadichi techukuntaru...




chaa..
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Infy lo naa salary is 70K :D

TCS ayinaa Infy ayinaa okate... light teesuko.
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groceries purchase kosam 2-3 miles nadichi techukuntaru....what a pathetic life man? Do you really deserve that lifestyle?
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Ashton:

tcs developers make 60k- 65k/year...



Basky_indya:

kamla, serak. high billing dobbi, neeku icchedi.. 65k,70k maxxx.....



sure annai ..
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kamla, serak. high billing dobbi, neeku icchedi.. 65k,70k maxxx.....

project ayipoyi, inkoti dorrakuntey, suitcase ready ga petukuni undali.
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Kamal:


salaries ela untayo idea unda? 3-4 years exp ki


I'm working with few tcs people...according to inside sources US lo tcs developers make 60k- 65k/year...

Worst part is American vendors are competing with these companies(TCS,wipro,Infosys) by driving down the rates drastically..
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Ashton:

em pay kamal? CRM $180/hr vunde billing $60-70 ki padipoyyindi because of these companies..



hmm .. tappadu kada .. pricing is very important in IT market ..

salaries ela untayo idea unda? 3-4 years exp ki .. em ledu .. Tata kurrollaki okka saraina pani seyyalani aasa ..
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em pay kamal? CRM $180/hr vunde billing $60-70 ki padipoyyindi because of these companies..
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TCS kurrollaki H1B meeda ela pay sestaru .. avidea unnollu seppand ..
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http://www.rediff.com/business/report/tcs-to-apply-for-1500- h1-b-visas/20110427.htm

India's largest IT services provider Tata Consultancy Services will apply for 1,500 H1-B visas for 2011-12, clearly indicating robust growth in the US.

"Last year I had said that we would be filing for 700 H1-B visas but ended up applying for 1,500. This year too, we will apply for 1,500 H1-B visas,"

The hike in H1-B visas also indicates that the company is winning new deals, for which projects initially need employees onsite.

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