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     Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7905 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.59 Rating: |
anyone who work under italian mafia is useless and should be suspected | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 7080 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
What is separation of legislature? | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 7078 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
NCA is not independent. It is appointed by the PM, and cabinet, and may be Sonia. Coming to Sonia's influence, yes it is an aberration in the current Congress Govt. But she is also an elected MP, so nothing different from the system we already have. I think of each of the NCA members as cabinet secretaries, but the better thing is that they are selected bcoz of their service motive, rather than from the seniority as an IAS. | ||
| Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 207 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.45.60.104 Rating: N/A |
The real solution is separation of legislature and executive should be made more transparent. To take your logic further, how does Lokpal committee solve this issue? The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
| Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 206 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.45.60.104 Rating: N/A |
It has nothing to do with the civil services stamp. It's that they are on the payroll of Indian union and hence answerable. As opposed to NGOs who are independent and could be on anybody's payroll. There is nothing wrong with the NGOs wanting to influence the laws made in the legislature. They could legitimately do so by lobbying enough MPs/MLAs to support their ideas - not by threatening to fast/strike/bomb. What these NGOs are doing is pretending they are somehow above all other partisan groups and "neutral" and that is precisely why none of them participate in elections - as they feel "different" from evil politicians. The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 7077 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
I don't understand why you are so particular about the civil services stamp? | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 7076 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
NAC has eminent ppl with a proven service motive. NAC, IAS what ever the name may be. A person may be an expert in the rural economy, or health. Are we not going to use him coz he is not an IAS? RTI, Rural Health Mission, NREGA, RTE all are outcomes of the NSA, and you have a problem with that? | ||
| Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 205 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.45.60.104 Rating: N/A |
Obviously each ministry is and has been supported by bureaucrats (IAS types) with relevant expertise and experience. If the Govt feels that the expertise is not enough, it could have altered IAS recruitment procedure by say, allowing lateral transition from other careers - say for example, Nilakeni can join civil services as an IT expert or something like that. Why is NAC (mostly of resigned/retired bureaucrats) expected to be better than the bureaucrats within the Govt? The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 7075 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
When did we start having experts in our cabinet? What is wrong with advisory committees to the PM, or the cabinet? Otherwise they should be walking encyclopedias with knowledge in everything. I re-iterate NAC has no executive power, if only it had that power, India would have been a much different place.
How can they be? Current police is appointed by the cabinet, and it is so naive to expect them to be honest in prosecuting their bosses. | ||
| Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 204 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.45.60.104 Rating: N/A |
To reiterate what I said yesterday, unelected NAC is the first step towards Chinese style politburo government. All major popular bills (as in mostly bills which distribute tax money to party vote banks) came from Sonia led NAC and not the PM led cabinet (which confined itself to nuclear bill, making schemes for corporate loot, etc - basically unpopular bills). As for Lokpal members, is it really true that Nobel and magsaysay award winners (who are elected by swedish/norwegian/philipine committees) will makeup the committee along with local "civil society" eminences? My big question: why can't the current courts and police be armed with a more stringent anti-corruption law and ability to prosecute elected people as well? The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
| Kamal Megastar Username: Kamal Post Number: 23617 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4 Rating: N/A |
cool deal .. intiki potunna .. no hard feelings .. bye .. na punyam .. na paapam .. na soukhyam .. na dukham | na mantro .. na theertham .. na veda .. na yagnah || | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 7073 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Law, Constitution frame work lo kakunda ye org pani cheyadu. period. Adi special gaa cheppala enti? Lokpal with prosecution powers on PM aithe, ippudu SC raja (a cabinet minister) ni mottikayalu vesindo, alage Lokpal will have powers to prosecute him if there are corruption charges. This does not mean that Lokpal is powerful than the PM, it only means that the law is more powerful than the PM. Lokpal is only executing the law. | ||
| Kamal Megastar Username: Kamal Post Number: 23612 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4 Rating: N/A |
ee mukkalu nenu ekkada chadavaledu ippati daaka .. ekkada pettaru? draft ani internet meeda unna docs lo ledu ee point .. !
boochi no .. kaado naaku telidu .. naaku chadivithe matram ade ardam ayyindi .. if its not .. problem emundi .. all is well .. na punyam .. na paapam .. na soukhyam .. na dukham | na mantro .. na theertham .. na veda .. na yagnah || | ||
| Vijay77 Junior Artist Username: Vijay77 Post Number: 766 Registered: 06-2010 Posted From: 199.41.197.24 Rating: N/A |
Lokpal ela powerful avuthundi. PM thappu chesthey lokpal siksha vesthundi. Inkokadu PM gaa vasthadu. Lokpal anedi Judicial sytemlo inko branch anthey. Repu lokpal nachakapothey MPs oka amendment thechi lokpalni dismiss chestharu. Ikkada judicial systemni, political systemni vidadeesthunnaru. Political influence lekunda chestunnatu. PM kanna powerful avuthundi ani oka bhoochini choopisthunnaru. | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 7071 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Tamud, poni nee solution cheppu. Janalalo morality peragali ilanti kaburlu vaddu. Janalu andaru uthamulu aithe law, police veellu evaru akkarledu. appati varaku choostu koorcholemu kada. SC judge corrupt avvachu. But did we not see for real how the SC acted in 2G case? Yes judiciary can't be perfect, so we need to work to reform that. Same with Lokpal. Even with prosecution authority, Lokpal cannot prosecute ppl according to its whims.It has to work according to the law. Lokpal istam vachinatlu cheste teesi dobbutaru. CVC kinda Thomas ni pedithe teesi dobbaleda? Alage. | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 7070 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Dude, that is how it is supposed to be. Coz, ministers are not effing experts in a field. NREGA aina, RTE aina , inkedi aina, parliament lo bill pass avvali. It is not that the cabinet, or PM bow down to everything the NAC says. NAC cannot even order a district collector. PM/cabinet advisory committee lo vallu policy framing meeda pani cheyaka, nuvvu nenu chestama? Policy framing ante A to Z ministers rastaru anukunnava? NAC valana chala manchi panulu jarigayi. NREGA, RTI, or RTE fruits sarigga ppl ki ravatledu ante daniki karanam mana ministers, MPs, and MLAs. | ||
| Kamal Megastar Username: Kamal Post Number: 23610 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4 Rating: N/A |
annai .. let me make it clear .. misleading/confusion naakemi benefit ledu .. Lokpal appointing etc are kind of controversial anthe .. and .. for the last 1 year atleast .. IR annai ni eppudu nenu ide vishayam meeda confront chesanu .. he always comes up with the answer that there can be no perfect models .. a privileged answer which he deprives others .. my only grouse .. otherthan having a super Lokpal in a draft bill .. na punyam .. na paapam .. na soukhyam .. na dukham | na mantro .. na theertham .. na veda .. na yagnah || | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 7069 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
ippudu Sonia, NAC okatena...LOL... Sonia ante Gandhi tag undi, veelaki emundi vayya argue cheyaleka kakapothe.. | ||
| Kamal Megastar Username: Kamal Post Number: 23609 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4 Rating: N/A |
Education, Health, Welfare, Employment etc .. any freaking subject is decided in NAC these days .. Governor ela aithe celebratory chair oo .. alage aipoyindi Cabinet of Ministers kuda .. dont feign ignorance! na punyam .. na paapam .. na soukhyam .. na dukham | na mantro .. na theertham .. na veda .. na yagnah || | ||
| Vijay77 Junior Artist Username: Vijay77 Post Number: 765 Registered: 06-2010 Posted From: 199.41.197.24 Rating: N/A |
Motham media, Politians andaru janalni confuse chesthunnaru. Hazare dheeksha chesthunnadi aa committelo non-politicians 50% pettandi ani, Retired SC Judgeni head gaa pettandi ani. Dhenni Lokpal vs JanaLokPal discussion loki theesukoni vachi, oka constitution kanna supreme body thechi dictatorni thayaru chestunnaru ani mislead chesthunnaru. | ||
| Kamal Megastar Username: Kamal Post Number: 23608 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4 Rating: N/A |
Sonia kuda PM ki eppudu "orders" ivvaledu ..  na punyam .. na paapam .. na soukhyam .. na dukham | na mantro .. na theertham .. na veda .. na yagnah || | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 7068 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Here you talked about NAC. NAC has no executive power ani cheppanu. Prosecution powers annadi Lokpal gurinchi... endo nee postlu... | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 7067 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Dude, that is not what I asked. SC lo aa judge more powerful than the PM aa? adi nenu adigindi..
Show me that the NAC gave "orders" on any of these. Many times the advice of NAC has not been heeded to. | ||
| Kamal Megastar Username: Kamal Post Number: 23605 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4 Rating: N/A |
mari indaka enduku icon vesavu? pleasure aa? no issues .. na punyam .. na paapam .. na soukhyam .. na dukham | na mantro .. na theertham .. na veda .. na yagnah || | ||
| Kamal Megastar Username: Kamal Post Number: 23604 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4 Rating: N/A |
sare .. ippudu oka puzzle .. what is common between these topics .. 1) Vedanta Mining leases cancelling .. 2) RTE 3) NREGA
SC is the most powerful org na punyam .. na paapam .. na soukhyam .. na dukham | na mantro .. na theertham .. na veda .. na yagnah || | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 7066 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Even with a prosecution authority, the Lokpal can enter the scene only if the PM has allegations of corruption. Ippudu mathram Raja ni arrest cheyaleda? Yes, there are several minor issues with the Jan Lokpal bill. But the Govt. should at least come out and say that they are willing to put in an independent organization with teeth to tackle corruption. | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 7065 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Tamud, just recently SC "ordered" the central Govt./PM on various things about the 2G scam. Ippudu aa SC judge most powerful person in the country antava?
Malli  Em authority vayya. NAC has no executive powers. It can only advise the PM on policy making. It is upto the PM to follow it or not. | ||
| Kamal Megastar Username: Kamal Post Number: 23601 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4 Rating: N/A |
sare .. gnani ni ayyaka matram .. Indiarocks2 ani pettukunta .. neeku abhyantaram lekapothe ..
unnadu .. the super cabinet - NAC lo .. authority without responsibility .. denemma .. aa role .. power thrill istundi anukunta .. oka halo create chesi dobbaru .. good link .. sply this sentence sums it all .. "Jan Lokpal Bill is open ended and confers unlimited powers. " Frank ga cheppalante .. PM will no longer be the most powerful person in the country .. it will be the Lokpal .. na punyam .. na paapam .. na soukhyam .. na dukham | na mantro .. na theertham .. na veda .. na yagnah || | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 7064 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
The problem is not with the logistics of the Jan Lokpal bill.No body is asking the Govt. to implement the bill as it is. Hazare, or other members of the team are no experts in drafting bills. The basic demand is to have an independent anti-corruption organization with powers of prosecution. And involve ppl in drafting the bill. What Govt. put on table right now is useless. | ||
| Bushu Side Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 2152 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 4.26.17.58 Rating: N/A |
http://realitycheck.wordpress.com/2011/04/06/jan-lok-pal-cav eat-emptor/ another opinion. Harsh Mandar gaadu kooda unnaadaa? :facepalm | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 7062 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Tamud, nuvvu Rockyworld2 ani peetuko ID. Aayana kooda inthe ABCD lu teliyakunda pedarayudu judgementlu istuntadu. Aruna Roy lived in a village, among village ppl, and worked for their cause resigning her job. And you say that she does not have roots in the soil, and its ppl? LOL... | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 7061 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: |
This is all you got to judge a person? Whether he has leftist leanings or not. Worse than that, if he has famous leftist friends? Who is she somebody married to? What ideology her husband has? Is he rich, or not. Or What kind of leanings ones colleague has, leftist, or rightist. Not a mention of any of their contributions? I judge a person by those, not by what her husband does, or her last name, or what one's friend does.
I don't need Wikipedia to talk about Aruna Roy. Since you did some work googling Aruna Roy, why don't you spend some more time learning about (their contributions ofcourse, not their last names or something  ) the Mazdoor Sakti Sanghatan, how RTI started in India Ignorance is indeed a bliss | ||
| Kamal Megastar Username: Kamal Post Number: 23597 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4 Rating: N/A |
specific ga Aruna Roy gurinchi ..
Her husband .. Sanjit Roy .. went to Doon school .. born to rich & elite/"intelligentia" parents .. founded Barefoot College (deriving from Mao's Barefoot Doctors) .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aruna_Roy Jean Dreaze - check his leftist creditials .. also gud friend of Amartya Sen (his political&economic inclination - well known) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Dreze Harsh Mander - leftist .. JNU elite .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harsh_Mander evaridi ignorance .. evaridi intelligence??? pai nunchi kinda daaka .. except a few like Swaminathan .. top rate leftist elite gaallu of the order of Romilla Thapar .. and you are going to ask me .. whats the problem if they have leftist inclinations .. the problem with leftist inclinations is .. there is no concept of a Indian nation .. Indian culture .. Indian people in their books .. so unfortunate that the people who drive the govt from behind do not have any roots in the soil or its people !!! na punyam .. na paapam .. na soukhyam .. na dukham | na mantro .. na theertham .. na veda .. na yagnah || | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 7060 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Ignorance is bliss. NAC ni Govt lo unnadi Cong kabatti Sonia head chestundi. Ala ani andaru mafia aipothara? Swaminathan, Aruna Roy ilanti vallaki RSS vallakante em thakkuva integrity undi? | ||
| Kamal Megastar Username: Kamal Post Number: 23595 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4 Rating: N/A |
Anna Hazare fasting chestunna stage meeda .. India map lo chala prominent ga Bharata Mata undenti??? RSS sponsored aa? desam lo inkevaru Bharata Mata ni use seyyatledu ..  btw .. movement mostly hijacked .. but thats ok .. we always have that problem anyways .. na punyam .. na paapam .. na soukhyam .. na dukham | na mantro .. na theertham .. na veda .. na yagnah || | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7904 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.59 Rating: N/A |
naaku antha ledu....it belongs to author of below article..one and only "Sandhya Jain" | ||
| Chinnu Side Hero Username: Chinnu Post Number: 3569 Registered: 05-2010 Posted From: 76.124.82.95 Rating: N/A |
Bro, aa webpage meedenaa ? | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7903 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.59 Rating: N/A |
add National advisory council members headed by italian mafia | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7902 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.59 Rating: N/A |
http://www.vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicDisplayArticle.aspx?id=17 16 i hope Anna Hazare won't let this anger to be hijacked by maoist sympathisers like agnivesh,international NGO circuit members sarabhais,medha patkars and teestas, american sponsered magasasay awardees and nobel lauretes |
