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1) it creates good avenues for easy money and people form cartels of human trafficking to increase revenues .. cases of kidnaps of young innocent girls will increase .. like shown in the movie "Taken" ..


false. cartels cant operate legal businesses. you dont see alcohol cartels when there is no prohibition. same with kidnaps of young girls. when it is not illegal, the girls who were forced into doing it can come out boldly and seek legal help.

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2) lure of money and easy sex "may" lead to women and men breaking away from families .. albeit for two different reasons, one for money, one for seks ..


that is a valid concern. BUT... YOU are making an assumption that the women themselves are not able to make a decision about their life. if she is over 18 she can decide it for herself what kind of lifestyle she chooses. stripping is not illegal. doesnt mean girls are dreaming about becoming one.


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3) associated vices with prostitution .. drugs, illegal guns, mafia, gambling, alcohol also increase alongside ..


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Done :D


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Married men are banned from this thread. Pack out..
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Navveti nakshathralu muvvalni muddhaadanga muvvaa gopaaluni raadhika..
Aakashaveenaa geethalalonaa..
Aalaapanai ne karigiponaa..
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Senapathy:

Idi edo nenu veyyalsina thaadu laaga undhey




correst...calling blackmamba ani oka taadu eyyi
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one more story to help you understand the law better-


HOUSTON -- A veteran Houston police officer has been charged with two counts of record-tampering after the district attorney's office said he lied about what happened during a prostitution sting.

On Oct. 15, 2009, Officer Samuel Roccaforte, 57, responded to an ad the woman had placed on Backpage.com for "Just Call Kelly," according to an arrest affidavit. When Roccaforte arrived, she escorted him into the bedroom and asked him to place his "donation" on the table, the affidavit said.

When he began asking questions about sex in exchange for money, the woman told investigators that she believed Roccaforte was a police officer and told him that she didn’t provide that type of service.

The woman said Roccaforte persisted in trying to get her to agree to have sex for money, before he finally identified himself as a police officer and arrested her for prostitution, according to the affidavit.

Roccaforte filed a report claiming that the woman had agreed to have sex with him in exchange for $200, the affidavit said.

The woman came forward on Feb. 4 with an audio recording of her arrest, which revealed that she never consented to having sex with the officer, the affidavit said. According to the audio transcript, when she protested her arrest and said she had not done anything wrong, Roccaforte said:

"There's no audio, there's no video. It's gonna to be my word against yours and who do you think they're going to believe?"

Investigators said Roccaforte, who has been with the Houston Police Department for 28 years, walked out of an interview after learning about the tape.

He has been placed on administrative leave with pay, pending the outcome of an investigation.

"What this officer did is wrong," said the woman’s attorney, Paul Doyle. "The vice division is totally out of control."
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Ipc302:

neekosam vintha news
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/snake-dies-after-biting-silicone- breast/145989-19.html




Paapam snake

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Sanman:

Police under cover as prostitutes must dress conservatively as befits a government representative




ante enti hillary clinton laga tayaru ayyi sandu sivara nilchuntara endhi....
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ante .. r u sure that .. unless a cop is not undercover .. they cannot book cases of prostitution in USA??? nenu direct ga choosanayya babu ante vinave .. LOL


OR if they can prove exchange of money for sex. they are state laws. but they cannot break your fundamenal rights. in case of terror alert and they have a reason to believe your activity is suspicious, they cannot question you. definitely not for the suspicion of soliciting or offering paid sex
acharya chanakya ne kaha hai jis des mein jitna jyaada tax hoga us des ke nagrik unta garib hothe hai - Baba Ramdev
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Senapathy:

Traasthudaa.. Ippudu naa daggara info unte, nenu chestunnata.. kikiki

Gun pelcahadam elago thelusu, does that mean I am takkari donga.. ujless




gokavule veepu..ujless

neekosam vintha news
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/snake-dies-after-biting-silicone- breast/145989-19.html
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google result -


Police trying to stop prostitutes are some of the most constrained. In addition to the restrictions listed in the item above, police are also required to solicit prostitutes with their own money so that official money does not become tainted, they can not offer a prostitute a wage outside of stringent government pricing guidelines, they are not allowed to touch anyone anywhere at any time, and they may not enter a room with a prostitute without being explicitly invited in.

Police under cover as prostitutes must dress conservatively as befits a government representative and are similarly restrained from bringing up the subject of prostitution, lying about their status, taking off their clothes, etc. This can make for a very interesting conversation when both parties in a potential prostitution transaction are really undercover police officers, since neither can say anything about what they really want to talk about. Sometimes this goes on for hours.

just to give some idea to brothers about how a prostitute is busted
acharya chanakya ne kaha hai jis des mein jitna jyaada tax hoga us des ke nagrik unta garib hothe hai - Baba Ramdev
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Idi etlundi ante there was a law previously that there cannot be a casino on the lands of United States except for NV.

Okkadu evado case vesaadu, land mida pettukonu water mida pettukunta ani. Appati ninchi water boat concept tho St. Louis and other places lo casinos vachai.
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Ipc302:

chala hobbies maintain sesthunnavu kadhu




Traasthudaa.. Ippudu naa daggara info unte, nenu chestunnata.. kikiki

Gun pelcahadam elago thelusu, does that mean I am takkari donga.. ujless
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Kamal:

cases of kidnaps of young innocent girls will increase .. like shown in the movie "Taken" ..




even in countries where prostitution is legal there laws prohibit under age sex....to believe that law makers will legalize child or under gae prostitution is far fetched...and coming to kidnapping for sex trade its happening in places wher prostitution is banned and will happen as long as the law doesn't punish these human traffickers severely

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Kamal:




When legalizes, there will be regularization also. Check the age of people working there. Check if they are working on their own consent or no. Have police raid to check the use of brothels for illegal activity. It is still better to have on boot inside the door to know whats happening behind closed doors
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Sanman:

ONLY the money exchange for sex is illegal. that is why they always go undercover



ante .. r u sure that .. unless a cop is not undercover .. they cannot book cases of prostitution in USA??? nenu direct ga choosanayya babu ante vinave .. LOL
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Ipc302:

mana accharam pekaram




Nuvvu experiments baaga settunava? DB lo sollu karustunnava?
I am struck by the lightning of love and burnt beyond repair - Florentino Ariza
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Senapathy:

Every hobbyist know this.




chala hobbies maintain sesthunnavu kadhu
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Kamal:

weird theory .. and I maintain it ..


nidra potunna vaanni lepochu

Senapathy:

Ayyo raaama. The right to remain silent is even valid when stopped and questioned.


5th amendment aa ? daaniki deeniki emanna link undhaa.
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Senapathy:

Pros lekunte 15 rapes ayyundech emo.. My peeling is that legalizing prostitution has more benefits than not.



my counter is .. once prostitution is legalized .. there are many disadvantages ..

1) it creates good avenues for easy money and people form cartels of human trafficking to increase revenues .. cases of kidnaps of young innocent girls will increase .. like shown in the movie "Taken" ..

2) lure of money and easy sex "may" lead to women and men breaking away from families .. albeit for two different reasons, one for money, one for seks ..

3) associated vices with prostitution .. drugs, illegal guns, mafia, gambling, alcohol also increase alongside ..

inkemi kavali .. not to legalize prostitution and encourage a "vice" ..
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Sanman:

adhi stree lani devatalu gaa poojinchani US lo. mari India lo enduko aadavaallu ante antha lokuva




bedar sthrrelu devathalu ani decided kabatti stree ni quechan seyyaru...alla pakkana unna purush ni quechan sestharu mana accharam pekaram
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Kamal:


LOL .. hotel lo dorikina couple ni 100% question chestaru ..


kikiki google kodithe mottam india cases vastunnai. oka cop hotel room loki dooradaniki, darilo potunna ladies ni aapi em pani ani adagadaniki right ledhu. EVEN a prostitute can have a boyfriend and they can go to a hotel. ONLY the money exchange for sex is illegal. that is why they always go undercover

Kamal:


endo .. stree lani devatalu ga poojinchatam enti bharateeya samskruti comedy ani comedy chese nuvve .. ila samskruti ni patronize chestunnav ante nammalekunna


reverse is true. samskruti ni kapadali ani tapana pade vaallu aada vaallu avamaaninchabade laws ni support cheyadam enti ani
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Sanman:

not getting stopped and questioned with the suspicion of prostitution. cinemalu ekkuva chuste alaage untadhi






Ayyo raaama. The right to remain silent is even valid when stopped and questioned. Ippudu nuvvu edo hotel lo aam yaam yaa chesi parking lot ki vasthey, cop will ask you what are you doing here. You have the right to remain silent. Every hobbyist know this.
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Sanman:

legalize ante ooo board lu pettesi kompalu open chesi tella card unna vaniki discount ivvamani kaadhu decriminalize chesi fine veste saripotundhi if someone is found soliciting paid sex.



well .. the law is the same anukunta .. even today .. plz check .. for the pros who are caught .. they are fined in the court .. unless they have other cases along side .. thats my understanding ..
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Kamal:

mari every day enduku 10 women are being raped?? ujless ..




Pros lekunte 15 rapes ayyundech emo.. My peeling is that legalizing prostitution has more benefits than not.

Anti-social elements are there through out, the effects of which cannot be curbed by extensive measures
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Sanman:

please enlighten me how legalization of prostitution will increase rapes.



asalu nenu increase rapes ani ekkada annanu .. all I said is .. it will not help in the decrease of rapes as you claimed with the weird theory .. and I maintain it ..
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Sanman:

cheppu teesukoni kodtaru. cops do not have the right to stop a girl and ask her business.



LOL .. hotel lo dorikina couple ni 100% question chestaru .. I know that for sure .. I worked in a motel when I was a student and I know how people were afraid if police caught them .. I know people who were arrested in the name of prostitution in USA .. oka sari ala google chesi raa ..

Sanman:

adhi stree lani devatalu gaa poojinchani US lo. mari India lo enduko aadavaallu ante antha lokuva



endo .. stree lani devatalu ga poojinchatam enti bharateeya samskruti comedy ani comedy chese nuvve .. ila samskruti ni patronize chestunnav ante nammalekunna
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Senapathy:

Nee talakay. They have the right to ask. You gave the right to remain silent


maradhe. you have the right to remain silent when there is a complaint against you and you are being arrested. not getting stopped and questioned with the suspicion of prostitution. cinemalu ekkuva chuste alaage untadhi
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Sanman:

do not have the right to stop a girl and ask her business




Nee talakay. They have the right to ask. You gave the right to remain silent
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Kamal:


ee estimations/hypothesis lu two sides untayi .. I am damn sure .. if u google .. u will find it .. andukani prostitution ni legalize cheseyyala??


please enlighten me how legalization of prostitution will increase rapes. google enduku nuvvu alochinchi cheppu. legalize ante ooo board lu pettesi kompalu open chesi tella card unna vaniki discount ivvamani kaadhu decriminalize chesi fine veste saripotundhi if someone is found soliciting paid sex.
acharya chanakya ne kaha hai jis des mein jitna jyaada tax hoga us des ke nagrik unta garib hothe hai - Baba Ramdev
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Senapathy:

On other count, strippers and prostitutes in Vegas make about $3000 per night


Ee information kuda maintain chestunnava. Atta boy.
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Senapathy:

Frustrate ayi unna kasi kameshulu doola teerchukovocch..



denemma .. 100 Rs ki gudiselloki velli pani kaanichi vachina vallu telusu saami naaku .. oka roju evado mandu party lo mandu baga ekkuvayyi seppadu ..

akkada ki edo pros leka rapes nadustunnayi country lo annattu matladaddu .. em Delhi lo pros lera??? mari every day enduku 10 women are being raped?? ujless ..

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Maa neighbor peru Snow



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Kamal:

USA lo aite emi chestaru anukuntunnav?


cheppu teesukoni kodtaru. cops do not have the right to stop a girl and ask her business. adhi stree lani devatalu gaa poojinchani US lo. mari India lo enduko aadavaallu ante antha lokuva
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Senapathy:

How correct is it to frame the boy and the lady as "victim".



law ade kada seppio ..

Ipc302:

moral of the story eti antavu



only intlo or koddiga risk sesi 99% public opinion lo manchi hotel anukunna sota ne .. only pellam tho seks is safe ani :D .. ofcourse .. repu pellam kuda .. eedu nannu rape sesadu ani complaint sesthe .. oochalu lekka pettataniki siddam ga undali ..

Senapathy:

Oka vela case kottesinaaka oka vekili navvu navvi sorry ante okay naa..



naaku okay kaadu .. anduke nenu seyyanu ekkada padithe akkda .. evaritho padithe allatho .. ade moral of the story .. :D

Sanman:

"It is estimated that if prostitution were legalized in the United States, the rape rate would decrease by roughly 25% for a decrease of approximately 25,000 rapes per year....

...[T]he analysis seems to support the hypothesis that the rape rate could be lowered if prostitution was more readily available. This would be accomplished in most countries by its legalization."



ee estimations/hypothesis lu two sides untayi .. I am damn sure .. if u google .. u will find it .. andukani prostitution ni legalize cheseyyala??

Sanman:

also bharateeya samskruthi gurinchi baadha pade vaallu oka police vadu oka stree ni hotel lo no leka road midha no evaru nuvvu em chestuntavu em pani midha vachaavu itlanti questions women ni adagatam kuda bharateeya samskruthena cheppali



LOL .. bharateeyam sangati pakkana petteyyi .. USA lo aite emi chestaru anukuntunnav? btw .. Bharat lo aithe compulsory adagali .. to keep the community clean .. :D
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Kamal:

I still dont understand whats wrong in the law ..!


aray nenu first nunchi chepthundhee SI gaani interpretation gurinche kaadha...
and about the law, i already said that i dont think it is meant for moral policing( which the SI did)...
of coz mandhee democratic system kabatti, court kee vellinappudu adi wrong case ani prove awudhee...
SI maatram mutawwah sergeant lekka sesaadu

but think seyyi any 1 can report any location as shady and any1 can be arrested under similar situations...aa time lo andaru ee SI lekka dance chesthay we will be on the other side of the arabian sea
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Kamal:

ela taggutayo reason pettu




Direct correlation ledu abbayi. Kaani I would bet on a scenario of sex starved frustration reducing if you can buy it with no tags attached..
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Senapathy:

Oka vela case kottesinaaka oka vekili navvu navvi sorry ante okay naa..




sorry tho em saripedatharu intiki teesukuni velthundi emo aa ammayi oka sari alochinchu
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I think .. its for the court to check whether they are in a relationship or not ..


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On other count, strippers and prostitutes in Vegas make about $3000 per night
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Kamal:

snow




Maa neighbor peru Snow :D
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Gurudev aap mahaan ho. I was aboout to guesstimate the 25% thingy. Motham thakkuva kaadu gaani, oka quarter taggochu. Frustrate ayi unna kasi kameshulu doola teerchukovocch..
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Kuyyo_morro:

Oka prostitute kuda 18+ unte case vesthaara? Freedom of you-know-what kinda consider cheyyara? Thana body thana ishtam to do with whoever she wants to. In the process, she isnt hurting anyone.



India lo chestaru .. USA lo kuda arrest chestaru except in NV (someone said it in this thread) .. vere countries sangati telidu ..

Senapathy:


sess... yedava logic nuvvu nu.. naa paruvu theesav samaraaaaa



serious ga adigings .. prostitution ni legalize cheste rapes ela taggutayo reason pettu .. lekapothe repu mee ollo snow padutundi ..
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Kamal:


also bharateeya samskruthi gurinchi baadha pade vaallu oka police vadu oka stree ni hotel lo no leka road midha no evaru nuvvu em chestuntavu em pani midha vachaavu itlanti questions women ni adagatam kuda bharateeya samskruthena cheppali
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Kamal:

shady hotel .. could be anyplace .. even a 5 star hotel ..

court ki veltunda .. amyamya naa anedi .. realistic question ..kaani law raase vaadu .. evado corrupt officer misuse chestadu ani cheppi .. poorti ga vadileyyamantada? vallani arrest cheyyakapothe .. vallu nijam ga couple aa .. leka pros who are lying to be in a relationship aa anedi .. police ela decide chestadu appatikappudu? anduke arrest chesi custody techukuni interrogate chesedi .. anni cases lo jarigedi ide kada ..




ante votel lo evariki right to privacy ledhu ani ardham...of course logic soosthe bagane undhi....if u cannot prove that u r married then getting caught having sex warrants proof so arresting sesaru ani anukovali...bagane undhi law point

moral of the story eti antavu
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Kamal:

anni cases lo jarigedi ide kada ..




Bujji konde.. Arrest all based on complaint per law okay. How correct is it to frame the boy and the lady as "victim". Oka vela case kottesinaaka oka vekili navvu navvi sorry ante okay naa..
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Kamal:


well .. is there some expert opinion on this? that when ur biological needs of the body are not met .. it will result in barbareous overpowering of women and calming ur nerves?


it is not a prescribed cure but there is a correlation.
google results-
eg. Kirby R. Cundiff, PhD, Associate Professor of Finance at Northeastern State University, wrote the Apr. 8, 2004 working paper entitled "Prostitution and Sex Crimes," for the Independent Institute, that stated:
"It is estimated that if prostitution were legalized in the United States, the rape rate would decrease by roughly 25% for a decrease of approximately 25,000 rapes per year....

...[T]he analysis seems to support the hypothesis that the rape rate could be lowered if prostitution was more readily available. This would be accomplished in most countries by its legalization."



and...Linda M. Rio Reichmann, JD, Director of the American Bar Association’s (ABA) Child Custody Pro Bono Project, quoted R.N. Barber's article "Prostitution and Increasing Number of Convictions for Rape in Queensland" in the 1969 (vol. 2 issue 3) of the Australian and New Zealand Journal of Criminology, when she wrote "Psychological and Sociological Research and the Decriminalization or Legalization of Prostitution" in the Apr. 1991 Archives of Sexual Behavior that stated:

"A study conducted in Queensland... show[ed] a 149% increase in the rate of rape when legal brothels were closed in 1959, while other offenses against the person by males increased only 49%."
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Ipc302:

adeti mana law pekaram prostitutes ni kooda jail lo edatharu anukunna...only customers ni jail lo pedtharau anna ishayam teldu ippati daaka



intaku mundu aithe fine kattinchukuni vadilesevaaru .. renuka madam garu changes chesaro .. chesta ani promise chesaro ani chadiva affatlo ..

Humpty_dumpty:

emi ledhu mellaga...ladies kee burkha, no work, no driving license, no going out alone...all are the right ways to be



chusava .. ee vishayam lo vallu correct ayyundachu ante .. valla vere wrongs choopinchi .. ee vishayaniki sambandam lekapoyina deenni kuda wrong ani prove cheyyalani choostunnav .. I still dont understand whats wrong in the law ..!
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Oka prostitute kuda 18+ unte case vesthaara? Freedom of you-know-what kinda consider cheyyara? Thana body thana ishtam to do with whoever she wants to. In the process, she isnt hurting anyone.
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Humpty_dumpty:

how did he conclude that the girls were victims and the guys had bad intent?



he did not conclude .. he just implemented the law that he knew .. the law says women are victims .. he followed it to the T ..

Ipc302:

shady hotel lo aa time lo married couples unna arrest sesthara...right time at the wrong place quota lo arrest chesaru annamta...ante manchi costly hotel lo em sesina parledhu ani uddesam aa....court varaku velthundha leka policilu ammyamaya tho case close chesthara...



shady hotel .. could be anyplace .. even a 5 star hotel ..

court ki veltunda .. amyamya naa anedi .. realistic question ..kaani law raase vaadu .. evado corrupt officer misuse chestadu ani cheppi .. poorti ga vadileyyamantada? vallani arrest cheyyakapothe .. vallu nijam ga couple aa .. leka pros who are lying to be in a relationship aa anedi .. police ela decide chestadu appatikappudu? anduke arrest chesi custody techukuni interrogate chesedi .. anni cases lo jarigedi ide kada ..
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Kamal:

they arrested them for having sex in a "shady hotel"




sess... yedava logic nuvvu nu.. naa paruvu theesav samaraaaaa


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Kamal:

kingdom of saudi lo alage unte tappenti??? if thats the right way to be?


emi ledhu mellaga...ladies kee burkha, no work, no driving license, no going out alone...all are the right ways to be
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adeti mana law pekaram prostitutes ni kooda jail lo edatharu anukunna...only customers ni jail lo pedtharau anna ishayam teldu ippati daaka
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Kamal:

comedy emundi ..


how did he conclude that the girls were victims and the guys had bad intent?
SI kurrod kothala rayudu cnmaa lo bad boy chiru ilanay radhika nee bad intent tho edho chesaadu ani tega think sesi dance sesaadu...
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Kamal:

they did not arrest them for having sex .. they arrested them for having sex in a "shady hotel" .. thati chettu .. paalu example annamata .. avi paala/kalla anedi court decide cheyyali ..




shady hotel lo aa time lo married couples unna arrest sesthara...right time at the wrong place quota lo arrest chesaru annamta...ante manchi costly hotel lo em sesina parledhu ani uddesam aa....court varaku velthundha leka policilu ammyamaya tho case close chesthara...
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Kamal:

oka room lo dorikani couple



dorikina*

Ipc302:

if two adults are consenting for sex then police have no right to arrest them and especially discriminating against men....



they did not arrest them for having sex .. they arrested them for having sex in a "shady hotel" .. thati chettu .. paalu example annamata .. avi paala/kalla anedi court decide cheyyali ..
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Humpty_dumpty:

relationship lo unna wallani bokka lo eyyatam enti when on one side the court acks live in relationships...



I think .. its for the court to check whether they are in a relationship or not .. if that relationship is marriage or some other nonsense .. bcoz .. police does not have any right to "judge" whether the couple are in a relationship .. his job is to act on the complaint .. the complaint that he got was .. there was illegal activity going on in a hotel .. he simply acted on that ..

Humpty_dumpty:

so called "harmful" intent lekunda now two adults cannot be in a closed room ...only mom-son, bro-sis, wife-hubby...as it is gaa kingdom of saudi arabia lekka undhee



kingdom of saudi lo alage unte tappenti??? if thats the right way to be? oka room lo dorikani couple di responsibility to prove in court that they are legally allowed to be spending time in private in a shady closed room .. police duty is to take them to court and present them to the judge ..

edo intlo store room lo nunchi pattukuni vachina bapathu kaadu ga .. prostitution racket nadustunna chota dorikaaru .. the police have no other way to check whether they are also part of the racket .. comedy emundi ..
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Kamal:

thanks .. thats what I wanted to say all along ..




eazy ga rayakunda pages kodii paragaraphs rasthavu kadha....
main problem enti ante prostitution ni legalize cheyydaniki oka manchi reason kavali ...andule chala mandi porapatu paduthunnaru that this will stop crimes against women

Senapathy:

Under Immoral Traffic Act, women are victims. According to Supreme Court ruling, we have to include women as witnesses and file complaint against the men," Panchal added. When asked about the couples who were in relationship, Panchal said, "The act applies to them as well as the boys had brought their girlfriends to the hotel with malafide intention. We have made the girls witnesses in these case too."




ee law ento ardham kaledhu...if two adults are consenting for sex then police have no right to arrest them and especially discriminating against men....may be the court hasn't noticed the fact that indian society is changing in terms of morality....women have to be treated as victims in the majority of the cases but there are cases when both men and women cannot be charged with a sex crime if they are willful partners
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But to believe that marriage for men, ,mangalsuthram for women, availability of more prostitutes per male, pre marital sex for adolescent boys will stop rapes is down right stupid



thanks .. thats what I wanted to say all along ..
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I do not think the law is made to morally police two adults.
SI chesindhee veera comedy...relationship lo unna wallani bokka lo eyyatam enti when on one side the court acks live in relationships...show them as pros if u can

so called "harmful" intent lekunda now two adults cannot be in a closed room ...only mom-son, bro-sis, wife-hubby...as it is gaa kingdom of saudi arabia lekka undhee
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having more prostitutes will not stop crime against women...what legalizing prostitution will help is to protect the women currently working as prostitutes...legalizing prostitution is a good step in protecting womens rights (read as rights of prostitutes)...But to believe that marriage for men, ,mangalsuthram for women, availability of more prostitutes per male, pre marital sex for adolescent boys will stop rapes is down right stupid
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Sanman:

what he said is true. it is a biological need that needs an outlet.



well .. is there some expert opinion on this? that when ur biological needs of the body are not met .. it will result in barbareous overpowering of women and calming ur nerves? bcoz .. in my view .. thats plain hypothetical talk that just because there is no vent .. rapes are happening .. ippudu rapes chestunna 90% people ki prostitutes are readily available for as cheap as 100Rs .. if its only a bodily need being addressed through rapes .. alage .. many rapists have women in their houses (mostly their own wives) .. or in their families .. (could be thier mother, sister or any other related women or neighbors) .. veellandarini kaadu ani .. ekkado .. IT job ki velli 11 ki mogudi bike meeda veltunna lady (just an example) ni vent ga use chesukuntunnaru ani reasoning is to me childish and baseless ..

more so .. many rapes are done in gangs .. ante andariki oke sari bodily needs avasaram ayyaya? looks very impossible .. and even then .. why dont the rapists vent them on women who are related to them?


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ideally through marriage but if that is not feasible, why deprive the person of other opportunities with consenting adults




in a society where almost 90% of the people are married .. lack of marriage as a reason for rapes is silly .. and plz answer why are many married men turning rapists??
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aa policodi interpretation of malafide intent is beyond funny, it's actually sad. idharu consenting adults hotel lo room book cheskuntey eellakendanta baadha? per capita sexual frustration max untademo desam lo.
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kamlesh, 2030 kee there will be 20% more men in desham ani sadivaa...
crime against women will be very high unless drastic measures are put in place from now
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Humpty_dumpty:

when there is no "victim", how can the court come to a decision about intent?



akkada victim ledu ani nuvvu ela "decide/judge" chesaav? court ki law anedi undi follow avvadaniki .. aa law prakaram .. they will decide according to that .. and already based on the police's interpretation of the law .. they booked a case on the men and quoted women as the "victim" .. adi tappu aithe .. court cheptundi .. that the policeman erred in the interpretation of the law and they are not victims and instead participants in crime (if it is .. )

ika intent aithe .. law might have addressed that corner anukuntunna .. aina .. intent harmful kakunda .. ala couples dorike chances unnaya? example cheppu koddiga ..
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hotel ki eldaam ani abbai ante em cheddam anukuni velthundhi ammayi ? enduku mana laws intha naive gaa chestaaru ? malafide intent enti ? sex aa ? with the intent of having sex ani raayochu kadha. malla thokkalo covering lu enduku. malafide intent tho girl invite cheyakudadhaa ? ento viddooraalu

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pros ki rapes chese men ki connection enti?


what he said is true. it is a biological need that needs an outlet. ideally through marriage but if that is not feasible, why deprive the person of other opportunities with consenting adults
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Senapathy:

Inkaa US lo ne legalize seyya leka poyaru..




US is way more conservative than we think. in the land of kamasutra and a billion and half, all these sexual mores are funny.
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Kamal:

courts kuda kakapothe .. inkevaru decide sestaru? sese authority undi?


when there is no "victim", how can the court come to a decision about intent?
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Senapathy:

Ainaa whats malafide any court etla decide chestaru?



courts kuda kakapothe .. inkevaru decide sestaru? sese authority undi?

Elcaminocapastrino:

if there are not pros in a ••••• country like desham intikoka pilla rape ki guriyyedhi for sure....



ela .. koddiga explain seyyava? I have heard this argument from many people .. but I dont understand how ..

pros ki rapes chese men ki connection enti? ante pros lekapothe .. valla daggara ki velle vallu rapes chestara? enduku ala? alage rapes chese vallaki pros un-available aa ippudu? naaku connection kanipinchatledu .. exflain seyyi ..
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pros legalization anedhi bigg step towards compromising on morals set by religions.....idhoka peddha hypocricy katravalli saami....if there are not pros in a country like desham intikoka pilla rape ki guriyyedhi for sure....
and then most of num of pros somehow end up in vatican city they say...endhuko andhariki thelsu....iina sex is a taboo bongu bhoshanam .....religion is the root cause of all this hypocrisy n senseless rules
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Bushu:

why dont they legalize the damn thing and ensure only voluntary adults take part in it




Inkaa US lo ne legalize seyya leka poyaru.. NV thappa
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I wonder what's the deal with this whole prostitution thing. why dont they legalize the damn thing and ensure only voluntary adults take part in it. any law should be against involving kids < 18 only.
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i supported it until the couples part came up. supreme court needs to clarify if sexual relationship before marriage is legal or not. oka vaipu sahajeevanam ok ani cheppi inko vaipu ee law endhi
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Senapathy:

malafide intention
Ainaa whats malafide any court etla decide chestaru?




minority report cnmaa susthaaru anukuntaa
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Humpty_dumpty:

malafide intention




Ainaa whats malafide any court etla decide chestaru?
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Senapathy:

Ninna Vijayawada EE ni kooda book chesaru kadaaa.. video lo kallu attukuntunnad..




adhi amtram 2 much, govt appice lo keka.... police raid chese time ki, gracy sakkga padukunnadhi mandhu taggi, yevaru vacharooo kuda chudalekapoye stage lo vundi
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Senapathy:

Under Immoral Traffic Act, women are victims. According to Supreme Court ruling, we have to include women as witnesses and file complaint against the men," Panchal added. When asked about the couples who were in relationship, Panchal said, "The act applies to them as well as the boys had brought their girlfriends to the hotel with malafide intention. We have made the girls witnesses in these case too."




SI interpretation of the law...kiki
case court waraku vellina prosecution yela gelusthadho ardham kavat ledhum if the girls are majors
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Ninna Vijayawada EE ni kooda book chesaru kadaaa.. video lo kallu attukuntunnad..
I am struck by the lightning of love and burnt beyond repair - Florentino Ariza
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Senapathy:

Madhyalo ee boy friends ni book chesi GFs ni witness cheyyadam endi saami.



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Prostitutes ni victims gaa assume cheyyadam varaku "OK". Madhyalo ee boy friends ni book chesi GFs ni witness cheyyadam endi saami. Ey yugam lo unnam. Dont the girls know what they are into in a resort with him..


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VADODARA: The rural local crime branch (LCB) on Sunday busted a major prostitution racket that was being run in a hotel in the outskirts of the city. The cops arrested 13 persons including four hotel employees under the Immoral Traffic (Prevention) Act while three persons have been declared as wanted. The cops raided the hotel located on Ajwa-Nimeta Road - a prime tourist spot - about 14 kilometres from the city in the wee hours of Sunday. Over 1,000 condoms were seized from the hotel's reception counter.

Police officials found nine couples in the hotel rooms. "Three of the girls were prostitutes who were brought from Mumbai. They were promised money by two city-based agents. The other six couples were in relationship and had come there for enjoying intimate moments," said LCB (rural) police sub-inspector J N Panchal.

The owner of the 100-room hotel has been declared as absconder. Rural DSP Gagandeep Gambhir had received tip-off following which she directed LCB to conduct the raid. The cops arrested all the males while they let off all the females involved in the case.

Under Immoral Traffic Act, women are victims. According to Supreme Court ruling, we have to include women as witnesses and file complaint against the men," Panchal added. When asked about the couples who were in relationship, Panchal said, "The act applies to them as well as the boys had brought their girlfriends to the hotel with malafide intention. We have made the girls witnesses in these case too."

The hotel was being run as a prostitution den. The hotel authorities used to charge anywhere between Rs 600 to Rs 1,000 per room from the couples while on record they showed only Rs 300. Two agents Altaf and Zizu used to bring in girls and customers to the hotel. The hotel staff then provided all the facilities including condoms.
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