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New_user
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Post Number: 14707 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.17.154.247
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 10:50 pm: |
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Jagan property single digit crores nundi, six digit crores loki velladaniki, ade time lo YSR power lo undataniki asalu sambandhame ledu annattu bhale seppadu ga. Ki ki ki.... Anaganaga Oka Dheerudu - Jagan, ki ki ki... http://reddypariwar.com/images/color.pdf |
   
Getafix
Side Hero Username: Getafix
Post Number: 8081 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 10:29 pm: |
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Ye endaki aa godugu patte typical politician ee Undavalli.Oka politician konchem educated ga maatladithe manam oho aaha ani sappatlu kottestham unfortunately. |
   
Sanman
Comedian Username: Sanman
Post Number: 1418 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 10:26 pm: |
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i see people here are getting confused between donations and paybacks. undavalli clearly said that they give out of "happiness". wtf does that mean ? that is a payback. not a donation. and it is black money. nobody is questioning him about the donations with receipts. why would you pay a political party out of happiness if you won a contract in competitive bidding ? do they also give opposition some donations out of happiness ? sor. major stollin reporting sor. enmy hais soddenly attacked os. from onexpected source. tiger's bos stop. 13841. give me pormission. i take chorge sor.major stollin moving sor |
   
Sanman
Comedian Username: Sanman
Post Number: 1417 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 10:22 pm: |
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Rockyworld:But I don't find fault with what he said.
he is an MP. someone who can work on reforming it instead of making peace with it and justifying it with some skewed logic. we know how it works. we send people like him to change it. all this time i thought his problem was lack of freedom. i always looked at him as reasonably fair among morons in congress. but with that interview it is clear that he is not only stupid but also kind of arrogant about it sor. major stollin reporting sor. enmy hais soddenly attacked os. from onexpected source. tiger's bos stop. 13841. give me pormission. i take chorge sor.major stollin moving sor |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 6678 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 09:36 pm: |
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Kamal:National parties lo .. its only BJP who is asking for public funding of parties so that black money can be stopped from effecting the elections .. ofcourse .. that makes them no saints .. but atleast they are talking about it for some time ..
When did BJP ask for this. 5yrs power lo undi kooda election campaign finance gurinchi BJP peekindi enti? Search in google about election campaign finance reform in India. You will know the truth. |
   
Rockyworld
Junior Artist Username: Rockyworld
Post Number: 717 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.101.121.119
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 09:31 pm: |
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Jcgaru:tamud..undavalli statements ni khandinchadaniki Bandhalu anubandhalu addu vastunayaaa..
Undvalli cheppindi correct JC. That is existing in India. Why blame Undavalli? He came out and told the truth. |
   
Rockyworld
Junior Artist Username: Rockyworld
Post Number: 716 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.101.121.119
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 09:29 pm: |
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Kamal:I know that .. you are talking about 2000s .. but why dont you talk about all the prior 55 years ..??? National parties lo .. its only BJP who is asking for public funding of parties so that black money can be stopped from effecting the elections .. ofcourse .. that makes them no saints .. but atleast they are talking about it for some time .. Budgets kuda Tata/Birlas daggara consult chesi release cheyyadam anavayithi Congress ki since independence .. avi anni ento explain cheyyi ..
Kamal Let me tell you. Cong is the most corrupt party in the India. No doubt about it. But BJP is no exception. They have done their part Remember Himachap Pradehh ex CM Virbhadra Singh. Entha thinnadu? Entha BJO party ki fnding chesaadu? |
   
Jcgaru
Comedian Username: Jcgaru
Post Number: 1247 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 72.100.9.64
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 09:29 pm: |
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Rockyworld:But the fact is what Undavalli said is true and it pervading in Indian political system.
Rockyworld:I don't see any problem in what Undavalli said.
tamud..undavalli statements ni khandinchadaniki Bandhalu anubandhalu addu vastunayaaa...
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Rockyworld
Junior Artist Username: Rockyworld
Post Number: 715 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.101.121.119
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 09:26 pm: |
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Sanman What I am trying to say here I am not supporting Undavalli either. But I don't find fault with what he said. There is corruption every where. He merely explained what was happening. No surprise you got pissed off with that. But this is every where. |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 22312 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 72.94.133.230
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 09:25 pm: |
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>>>>Ha ha. Every body knows how govts do favors to some businesses. It is no secret. Check the following, BJP beats cong in political donations. I know that .. you are talking about 2000s .. but why dont you talk about all the prior 55 years ..??? National parties lo .. its only BJP who is asking for public funding of parties so that black money can be stopped from effecting the elections .. ofcourse .. that makes them no saints .. but atleast they are talking about it for some time .. Budgets kuda Tata/Birlas daggara consult chesi release cheyyadam anavayithi Congress ki since independence .. avi anni ento explain cheyyi .. na punyam .. na paapam .. na soukhyam .. na dukham | na mantro .. na theertham .. na veda .. na yagnah || |
   
Rockyworld
Junior Artist Username: Rockyworld
Post Number: 714 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.101.121.119
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 09:24 pm: |
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Rockyworld:
US lo bayamkaramaina corruption vundi. For example, defence companies Republic party ki funding chesayani. 1996 lo, China Dem party ki heavy ga funding chesindi ani. Adhi inka continue avuthondi ani kooda. Lot of China businesess have lobby groups and bought US congress men to do favorable business with them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_United_States_campaign_fin ance_controversy |
   
Rockyworld
Junior Artist Username: Rockyworld
Post Number: 713 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.101.121.119
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 09:18 pm: |
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Sanman:yes. there is a difference between a donation and a kick back. in US there are lobby groups and businesses that pay donations before the elections. usually to both parties. not after getting a contract. that is illegal. in US the contestant has to raise his own money and there is an election fund. nothing goes into it or into the party fund or to his personal account after a contract is awarded to a company. the huge difference in India is 1) they are in black 2) they go the party after elections not before and not to the candidate fund if there is any
What Undavalli was saying in a crude way the donations (collections). Of course we cannot equate US democracy with Indian Democracy. Let me tell you I am not a big fan of YSR not Congress. But the fact is what Undavalli said is true and it pervading in Indian political system. In US, elections is a continuous process for COngress. So businesses do provide donations all the time. There is no particular time for this. |
   
Rockyworld
Junior Artist Username: Rockyworld
Post Number: 712 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.101.121.119
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 09:16 pm: |
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Kamal:
Ha ha. Every body knows how govts do favors to some businesses. It is no secret. Check the following, BJP beats cong in political donations. http://www.governancenow.com/views/think-tanks/bjp-beats-con g-corporates-donations |
   
Sanman
Comedian Username: Sanman
Post Number: 1416 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 09:11 pm: |
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Rockyworld:This happens every where.
yes. there is a difference between a donation and a kick back. in US there are lobby groups and businesses that pay donations before the elections. usually to both parties. not after getting a contract. that is illegal. in US the contestant has to raise his own money and there is an election fund. nothing goes into it or into the party fund or to his personal account after a contract is awarded to a company. the huge difference in India is 1) they are in black 2) they go the party after elections not before and not to the candidate fund if there is any sor. major stollin reporting sor. enmy hais soddenly attacked os. from onexpected source. tiger's bos stop. 13841. give me pormission. i take chorge sor.major stollin moving sor |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 22310 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 72.94.133.230
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 09:10 pm: |
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>>>>All political parties in India do this. BJP is also no exception. Either you have no idea what you are talking or you know that you are blatantly lying. The issue is not about which parties are following Congress to survive .. ala teesukunte .. I am sure even Lok Satta seeks donations from MNCs and high worth individuals .. but why are they doing what they are doing should be the matter of debate .. Congress since independence followed this principle of awarding works due to the power it attains through ballots and in turn seeks rewards to get elected. Now, check the definition of nepotism - which is what the constitution says should not be followed by parties in power. na punyam .. na paapam .. na soukhyam .. na dukham | na mantro .. na theertham .. na veda .. na yagnah || |
   
Rockyworld
Junior Artist Username: Rockyworld
Post Number: 711 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.101.121.119
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 08:58 pm: |
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Sanman:
Businesses making donations to political parties quite normal. Sarva Sadharanam. This happens every where. I don't see any problem in what Undavalli said. Look at the Politcal donations received by Congress men/Political parties in US. They fund. In US it is more sophiticated, they have lobbies and groups and they fund political parties for benefits. http://maplight.org/us-congress/guide/data/money?9gtype=sear ch&9gkw=political%20party%20donations&9gad=6213192041.1&9gag =1786513001&gclid=CLHR2K6su6cCFdVf2god1SlUCA Look at the website. All political parties in India do this. BJP is also no exception. |
   
2cool
Side Hero Username: 2cool
Post Number: 6039 Registered: 05-2009 Posted From: 173.242.114.87
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 08:06 pm: |
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Jcgaru
Comedian Username: Jcgaru
Post Number: 1231 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 75.221.119.244
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 06:52 pm: |
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Eluri_kurradu:
Mana vundavalli cheste collection.....corruption kaadu
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Eluri_kurradu
Hero Username: Eluri_kurradu
Post Number: 12261 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.16.22.169
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 06:17 pm: |
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Sanman:i am really disappointed with this guy. adding him to my scumbag list with the likes of arjun singh, kapil sibal, ambica soni etc
undavalli incere and honest anukunnava?ettaga ettaga? Nandamuri Rajni zindabad- OT & co Akkineni Rajni Zindabad -KNF & co Mega Rajni ZB - Papi & co Rajni sambar verma ZB - KKD |
   
Abcdefghij
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Post Number: 9614 Registered: 02-2007 Posted From: 76.226.14.24
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 05:55 pm: |
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undavalli fans pakka thread avasaram lekapoina posts ikkadaki matuku raru Sarpanch:DB UNdavalli fans
nenu aa post esinappudu nuvvu aa thred link ivvaledu..sein nuvvu edo ante react ayya annadu..so daani batte post esa...ippudu link icchav still choodanu.. classic DLM by Mav after blind blessings |
   
Jcgaru
Comedian Username: Jcgaru
Post Number: 1230 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 75.221.119.244
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 05:31 pm: |
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"Happy Corruption"
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Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 22307 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 72.94.133.230
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 05:08 pm: |
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2014 lo Congress elections odipothe .. 2019 (or before that) ki Jagan will be back in Congress anukuntunna .. Idle cheppinattu .. bura oodutaru .. mari eppudu chestaro adi .. na punyam .. na paapam .. na soukhyam .. na dukham | na mantro .. na theertham .. na veda .. na yagnah || |
   
New_user
Hero Username: New_user
Post Number: 14700 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.17.154.247
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 04:39 pm: |
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Ikkada evaru namma ledanta, ki ki ki... One single depositor kooda complain cheyya ledu. Garjana lo deevena, ki ki ki.... Cut cheste galivana. |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 22304 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 72.94.133.230
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 04:18 pm: |
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neethi, nyayam, dharmam ni tunga lo tokki .. chatta prakaram tappinchukune telivi tetalu unte .. vaatiki maanava roopam ee mrugam .. undavalli .. na punyam .. na paapam .. na soukhyam .. na dukham | na mantro .. na theertham .. na veda .. na yagnah || |
   
Mamamiya786
Side Hero Username: Mamamiya786
Post Number: 7828 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 98.88.138.21
Rating:  Votes: 5 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 04:06 pm: |
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vundavalli just rockz .....YSR/YSJ la ananugu sahacharudu ga vundalani korika...you are the man. Chidl Marriage Bhruna Hatya tho samanam -- vinoba bhave. |
   
Abcdefghij
Side Hero Username: Abcdefghij
Post Number: 9607 Registered: 02-2007 Posted From: 76.226.14.24
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 03:46 pm: |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60fXJD2qzWk collection king ysr annatu corruption kid jagan annatu undavalli ramoji fraud ani AP lo janam nammaru anta lick cheyyaamante baa chestai self proclaimed dogs... nenu aa post esinappudu nuvvu aa thred link ivvaledu..sein nuvvu edo ante react ayya annadu..so daani batte post esa...ippudu link icchav still choodanu.. classic DLM by Mav after blind blessings |
   
Sarpanch
Junior Artist Username: Sarpanch
Post Number: 203 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 69.248.97.68
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 03:26 pm: |
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DB UNdavalli fans assosication tarapuna.................ee post delete seyyali ani manavi settunna..............
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Dma
Side Hero Username: Dma
Post Number: 2167 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 98.174.228.58
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 02:37 pm: |
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Sanman:if you raise the cost of the project from 10rs to 20rs and get back 5rs, it is corruption. if the contractor "happily" gives you a commission out of his profits, it is collection.
inko daanni marchi poyaaru... ade ... Buziness. Ultimate Buziness - Decoitary |
   
Sanman
Comedian Username: Sanman
Post Number: 1415 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 02:17 pm: |
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rajashekar reddy taking money chesadu kani making money cheyaledhu anta. veedu oka MP sor. major stollin reporting sor. enmy hais soddenly attacked os. from onexpected source. tiger's bos stop. 13841. give me pormission. i take chorge sor.major stollin moving sor |
   
Desparado
Moderator Username: Desparado
Post Number: 4432 Registered: 02-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 02:12 pm: |
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Sanman:it it becomes the generally accepted theory.
IMO its already a accepted theory....many gov ooficials say..i dont take bribes...but will accpet goodwill or gifts... |
   
Sanman
Comedian Username: Sanman
Post Number: 1414 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 02:09 pm: |
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Desparado: but atleast for a change for once a politician is accepting that corruption is deep rooted...whether he calls it collection or whatever but hes accepting that system messed up
NO what he is doing is justifying the actions of political parties and giving a validity to corruption and making it acceptable in the eyes of public. when enough voices are not heard against it it becomes the generally accepted theory. sor. major stollin reporting sor. enmy hais soddenly attacked os. from onexpected source. tiger's bos stop. 13841. give me pormission. i take chorge sor.major stollin moving sor |
   
Desparado
Moderator Username: Desparado
Post Number: 4431 Registered: 02-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 02:02 pm: |
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Sanman:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60fXJD2qzWk
but atleast for a change for once a politician is accepting that corruption is deep rooted...whether he calls it collection or whatever but hes accepting that system messed up |
   
Desparado
Moderator Username: Desparado
Post Number: 4430 Registered: 02-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 01:56 pm: |
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nice post Sanman....andukay raju kanna mondi vadu balvanthudu antaru....yes a douche bag with a smart mouth is far more worse than douchebag...same is the case with KCR! |
   
Sanman
Comedian Username: Sanman
Post Number: 1413 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 01:48 pm: |
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today is the day i lost complete respect for undavalli. now i realize a scumbag with a smart mouth is far worse than just a scumbag. i used to like this guy for speaking at least one sided truths i.e when the topic is not about congress. in this video he explained that there is a difference between corruption and collection and all parties do collection. his theory is that if you raise the cost of the project from 10rs to 20rs and get back 5rs, it is corruption. if the contractor "happily" gives you a commission out of his profits, it is collection. i really really never thought i would hear something like that from someone who is so learned and well spoken. two flaws with his argument. in a competitive bidding, there wont be a margin left to "happily" give party funds. enough room is left for paybacks and kickbacks only if the bid was generous. secondly, it is hard to tell the difference - whether paybacks were given "happily" or according to prior understandings. AND a party that takes "happy" money can do whatever it wants when there is not even a bidding like in the case of "SEZs" . Imagine the happiness levels when the govt vacates poor peoples lands and allots it to you without competition. i am really disappointed with this guy. adding him to my scumbag list with the likes of arjun singh, kapil sibal, ambica soni etc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60fXJD2qzWk sor. major stollin reporting sor. enmy hais soddenly attacked os. from onexpected source. tiger's bos stop. 13841. give me pormission. i take chorge sor.major stollin moving sor |