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     Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 6448 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
1000 small towns in AP. 5yrs mundu nunde cheptunnamu included in the manifesto. Merugaina samajam kosam Loksatta  | ||
| Saint Junior Artist Username: Saint Post Number: 727 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 98.180.211.163 Rating: N/A |
development anedhi anni regions lo equal gaa vundali..capital ante motham akkade dochi pettakudadu..regional imbalance lekunda choodali... mana CBN gaari hayam...india shining appudu, AP lo only hyd shining annattu behave chesadu.... tier-2 cities meeda assalaki concetrate ee cheyyaledu..karnataka mysore, managalore, Tamilnadu lo coimbaitore laga alternate city ni develop cheyyaledu...aa tenure lo vizag, vijayawada, tirupati, kurnool etc vaati meeda concentrate chesi develop chesi vunte bagundedhi..ippudu manaki only hyd....so antha kottukuntunnaru... political capitals and financial capitals separate gaa develop cheyyali...eery 200 kms ki oka decent city develop ayyela cheyyali...like in US.... I'm not a Saint. | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 21480 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
Nope. People can vote against the govt. In democracy, vote is more powerful than anything. If violence is the option....then what if after T formation, Nagam wants seperate MahabubNagar state and Errabelli wants seperate warangal state and Jana reddy wants seperate Nalgonda state? Owaisi wants seperate old city state? what do we all do? again violence? | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 6446 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
No, the very foundation of the current agitation is the reason. Asalu mundu A vallu dochestunnaru, Andhra waale bhago, discrimination ani start chesadu. Naturally ppl in Hyd feel insecure. KCR is majorly responsible for complicating the issue. Dani badulu states re-org ki parliament lo efforts pettachu gaa. Problem enti ante, there is no rational leadership for the agitation. Ippudu malli nenu T ppl are not rational annanu anukovaddu. Unfortunately moderate, rational, and sensible leadership ledu. This applies to both sides. | ||
| Sanman Comedian Username: Sanman Post Number: 1232 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
there is a flaw in that. smaller states can never form without the approval of larger chunk (t and a situation) aa mukka ambedkar ki ardham ayye resolution introduce cheste chalu ani pettaaru.
why ? because people from andhra are more in number ? if you are talking about non T people who are voters in T, they already have their rights with or without state. b'lore ki velli maa population ekkuva undhi so bangalore benefits lo konchem share ivvali ani adagandi. true to yellow fans - you have just been brain washed about babu like congress brain washed about nehru and indira. he is just another politician who got rich using power. a political party should be the property of people, not a family. stop being unpaid slaves to a family. and no matter who was in power IT would have been the same | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 6445 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: |
Adi antha complex aa, already states form ayyayi kada the same example you gave like Chattisgarh. Pass resolution in assembly, as simple as that. Akkada possible ainappudu, AP lo enduku cheyaleru? Both sides have to make compromises about Hyd. Kaani kudaradu adey gaa problem? Ala kaadu meeru cheppinatlu population, size basis aithe, get a law passed in the parliament. Adi chesara?, Govt lo cheraru, 2yrs minister gaa unnaru kada? Bottom line enti ante, constructive gaa efforts lekunda, pure emotions meeda agitation unte idey autundi. Anavasaramga anti Andhra, anti T ppl comments ekkuva, pani thakkuva mana daggara. | ||
| Sanman Comedian Username: Sanman Post Number: 1231 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
calm down. they ante the other side. people who dont agree with you. legitimacy ki parameters ento cheppandi. adhi antha black and white aithe intha godava enduku. you want reasons that satisfy your intellect. i am saying nobody has to prove anything to you or anybody else. who is to determine whether a claim is justified or not ? if it were left up to one person or one party's decision, they would implement their agenda. to yellow fans - you have just been brain washed about babu like congress brain washed about nehru and indira. he is just another politician who got rich using power. a political party should be the property of people, not a family. stop being unpaid slaves to a family. and no matter who was in power IT would have been the same | ||
| Ishan Moderator Username: Ishan Post Number: 7786 Registered: 01-2009 Rating: N/A |
ee DBlo anthe...nuvvevaro kaani nee fan ayipothunna roju rojuki...good posts "Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others." -Joseph Conrad | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 6441 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
This is not at all practical. | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 6440 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
WTF dude. They ante evaru ikkada, TRS aa. If that is so, there is everything to prove that TRS is wrong. My problem is only this - I am totally ok with T formation, but the demand should be on a legitimate basis. Oka sari development, dochestunnaru annaru. Outright lie ani prove ayyindi, ok. Samskruthika sarupyata ilanti vague terms tho kaadu. Argument vague gaa unte, naturally questions untayi. And I have not found any leadership from T with a rational reasoning.
Already idey decision first post lo cheppeyachu kada, daniki intha disc enduku? | ||
| Sanman Comedian Username: Sanman Post Number: 1227 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: |
the summary of your post is YOU dont like T formation. just like you there are people on both sides that have opinions. there is nothing to prove that you are right and they are wrong or viceversa. nenu thread vesindhe criteria em undali ani. daanni T ki oohinchukoni chaala confuse ayyaaru. if a region wants a separate state, give it. if capital is involved, make it common capital for 10 or 20 years until infra is developed in new capital. i believe in the right to self determination of locals but we can have some guidelines about minimum population or geographical area to yellow fans - you have just been brain washed about babu like congress brain washed about nehru and indira. he is just another politician who got rich using power. a political party should be the property of people, not a family. stop being unpaid slaves to a family. and no matter who was in power IT would have been the same | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 6434 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: |
Ok, AP form ainappudu appati daka states organization ledu. AP main ga language basis meeda form ayyindi. And that also formed the basis for SRC. Mana country lanti diversity unnappudu edo oka basis theesukovali, konni chotla kudarakapothe exceptions pettukovali. Adey chesaru. Taruvatha politics anandi inkoti anandi new states adigaru. But they had resolutions passed in the assembly approving it. Idi meeru ignore cheste elaga
Ok, oppukuntaru, but define rules for it properly to be applied to the whole country. T ki oka rule, desaniki oka rule aithe elaga? To be treated as an exception, at least get the resolution passed in the assembly. Public sentiment enti babu, 2yrs kindata 10 seats isthe sentiment unnatla? To be formed state capital lo poti cheyaleni paristiti unte sentiment unnatla. How will you measure it? EE roju okati untundi public sentiment, repu inkokati. Hyd patabasti lo velli Pak lo kalapamantaru public sentiment ani, ok naa? Most importantly how do you define samskruthika sarupyata? idi chala broad word, ante language lona, dialect lona, food lona, endulo choodali samskruthika sarupyata? Dialect anukunte Telangana, Krishna, godavari, north eastern, rayalseema districts ki difference undi. Food kooda same situation. Telangana, Rayalseema, Coastal food difference untundi. Ivanni alochinche language ani padhatiga chesaru | ||
| Mega Side Hero Username: Mega Post Number: 4413 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 144.160.5.25 Rating: N/A |
It is not upto the people in the state...it is upto the decision makers of the country ( national level). | ||
| Sanman Comedian Username: Sanman Post Number: 1226 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
anni regions ni vappinchadam ante enti ? a lo majority ki istam lekapote separate t form avakudadha ? same logic chennai nundi vidipoinnappudu kuda apply cheyocha. ledhu endukante adhi manaki beneficial situation kabatti. ventane capital city logic kuda vastadhi. anyway i wanted this thread to be general discussion for formation of new states but i cant seem to stop anyone from talking about T samskrutika saaroopyatha lekapovadam valla ante oppukuntaara. andulo abaddam emi ledhu kadha. basic gaa manaki istam lekapote enni reasons aina teeyochu. how about public sentiment ? how about a referendum to measure public sentiment ? to yellow fans - you have just been brain washed about babu like congress brain washed about nehru and indira. he is just another politician who got rich using power. a political party should be the property of people, not a family. stop being unpaid slaves to a family. and no matter who was in power IT would have been the same | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 6433 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: |
gross gaa language has been the policy when the first SRC happened. Exceptions unnayi, coz they were needed. Policy is not based on population. Taruvatha demands vachayi, and political parties made them election issues. Kaani basic gaa migatha states like Chattisgarh lo assembly lo resolution pass chesaru. SKC committee antha clear gaa cheppindi gaa padhati enti ani. OKati united gaa unchandi, ledu ante anni regions ni vappinchi divide cheyandi ani. Problem enti ante manaku nachindi cheppali ani munde decide aipotharu. Inka compromise question ledu.
I never said claim for T is not valid. I only found fault with the basis of their claims. T kavali anochu. Anduku thappu ledu. kaani enduku kavali ani adigithe abaddalu cheppakudadu. Ippudu problem adey. | ||
| Sanman Comedian Username: Sanman Post Number: 1225 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
there is no said policy like that. chattisgadh, uttarakhand, jarkhand ivanni separate languages unnaya. Assam has Assamese,Bodo,Rabha,Deori,Bengali. 4 states istara adhe mari aa paddathi endho chepte janam kottuku chaavaru kadha. there are states with 5 lakh population in India. 4.5 crores ki 4 states chesina gani each will be larger than 50% of states in India. what is India's policy on new states ? how do you determine if the claims are valid. just like you are saying t claim is not valid t will say a claim for hyd is not valid. court lo land dispute vaste iddariki samanam gaa panchamani cheptara to yellow fans - you have just been brain washed about babu like congress brain washed about nehru and indira. he is just another politician who got rich using power. a political party should be the property of people, not a family. stop being unpaid slaves to a family. and no matter who was in power IT would have been the same | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 6431 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
I am not getting this. What do you mean by policy here? Language ni basis gaa thesskovadame policy. Lekapothe SRC avasaram enti? Central level lo country motham study chesi oka padhati prakaram cheyadam enduku?
Why should they do it? Separate state undali ani korukovadam thappu kaadu. If enough ppl feel that another re-organization is needed then they should ask for it. Problem enti ante Govt, constitution veeti spelling raani vallu MLA, MPs ayyi, janalu guddeddullaga follow ayyi, state icheyandi, state icheyandi ani blackmail cheste.
In that case each side should make compromises and arrive at an agreement. Lekapothe demudu digi vachina ee problem solve kaadu. JP 2yrs kindate ee mata cheppadu. | ||
| Sanman Comedian Username: Sanman Post Number: 1223 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
kaadhu. they dont decide policy. they look at the demands during that time and make recommendations. it is arbitrary. not policy based. then they should close the doors for new states.why keep it open and allow parties like trs to grow? i dont think we are going to see any new languages shape up in the near future. not where interests of two groups with considerable support for each are involved. people will form supporting or opposing arguments based on their position. lets not get into that. the question is how should a new state be formed without agitations and violence ani. to yellow fans - you have just been brain washed about babu like congress brain washed about nehru and indira. he is just another politician who got rich using power. a political party should be the property of people, not a family. stop being unpaid slaves to a family. and no matter who was in power IT would have been the same | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 6428 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
SRC was applied as a national policy, more or less. kaada? Idemanna continuous process aa enti. OKa sari states re-organize chesaru. India lanti diverse country lo edo oka criterion theesukovali, language theesukunnaru, which makes every sense.
Chala issues lo common consensus sadhincharu. At least bill pass parliament lo. Ippati daaka states form ayyindi SRC, or state assembly lo bill pass ayyi. Asalu em lekunda icheyandi, icheyandi ani edo chinna pillalu chocolate adiginatlu pechi okka T vishayam lone.
Ila decide aithe its a waste of time looking for solutions to problems. Adi jarige varaku ilanti godavalu thappavu. | ||
| Risingstar Megastar Username: Risingstar Post Number: 21145 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 68.87.42.115 Rating: |
usual gaa development ki dooramga undi neglect cheyyabadithe vallu fighght chesi separate states adugutharu.. istharu... adhi common. inthavaraku capital city unna region eppudu divide kavalani adagaledhu.... ippudu aduguthunnaru.. capital city ni base chesukuni people investments pedatharu chalamandi outside region vallu kooda mana city anee feeling loo untaru.... atleast since last 40 years hyderabad is not belong to telangana, it belongs to all the people in Andhra Pradesh. telangana vallu idhi accept cheyyataniki ready gaa leru.. assalu hyd vadilesi telangana adigithe 24 hours loo solve avuddi problem... idhi andariki thelusu... logical gaa aloochinchakunda andaru aduguthunnaru ivvali antee elaa kuduruddi? 18 months back jarigina elections 50% places loo TRS potee cheyyaledhu.. chesina vaatiloo 30% gelicharu.. MPs ayuthe darunam.. state capital loo elections loo potee chese dammu ledhu... ippudu edhoo prove chesukovataniki ippudu elections pettalanta.. itta evariki istam vachinappudalla elections pettalantee constitution unnadhi enduku? elections vachedaka oopika pattandi telangana kosam evarayuthe sincere gaa try chesthunanrani feel avuthunnaroo vallaki votes vesi gelipinchi appudu gattiga chaati cheppandi.. opika lekapothe elaa? over night telangana raadhu... president rule vasthundi doola theeruddi.. Mega : correct director padinappdu charan kuda hit ichchadu | ||
| Sanman Comedian Username: Sanman Post Number: 1216 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
ikkada topic Telangana movement gurinchi kaadhu. asalu new states formation ki criteria em undaali ? for whatever reasons if a region wants a new state should there be a basic criteria that needs to be met ? are we willing to accept any new states based on that criteria ani. national policy ante adhe kadha. entha sepu congress ivvadam ledhu tdp aaputundhi ani vaalla chethilo power petti malli vaallane adukkovadam enduku to yellow fans - you have just been brain washed about babu like congress brain washed about nehru and indira. he is just another politician who got rich using power. a political party should be the property of people, not a family. stop being unpaid slaves to a family. and no matter who was in power IT would have been the same | ||
| Risingstar Megastar Username: Risingstar Post Number: 21143 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 68.87.42.115 Rating: N/A |
mundu development basis meedha division kavalannaru.. adhi valid kaadhu ani thelisaka USA loo anni states unnai ikkada inni states unnai ani sollu.... elections ayye daaka oopika patti elections loo telangana supprted parties nee gelipinchi prove cheyyachu kadha ila road meedha padi pichivalla laaga behave cheyyakapothe.. assalu emanna sollu reasons chepthara? Texas kantee konchem peddadhi india.. india loo anni states undatamee boothu assalu.... aa lekkana USA kantee peddaga unna Canada loo only 10 provinces. population basis gaa chusukunna china loo 22 provinces.. development basis meedha valid kaadhu.. population basis meedha valid kaadhu.... area basis meedha valid kaadhu.... elections loo denkaledhu.. ee lekkana valid saami assalu? Mega : correct director padinappdu charan kuda hit ichchadu | ||
| Kurrokurru Junior Artist Username: Kurrokurru Post Number: 293 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 69.193.91.88 Rating: N/A |
already language base meeda divide chesaru kada states ni...inka nayam state lo okokka jilla ni oka state ga mukkalu cheyyamanaledhu.. Bottom Line cheppu: Developement meeda mee poratam ayithe ...daani saadhana koraku strikes,hunger strikes cheyandi anthe kani ..bottu ku paniki raani seperate state kosam idantha enduku...naaku adhe artham kaavadam ledhu seperate state ayina ventane emi jarugutundi...aakasham nundi edaina adbutama.. | ||
| Sanman Comedian Username: Sanman Post Number: 1215 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
it will also solve problems like corruption, reservations, water, electricity, jobs and everything. but still people dont associate those two. there is nothing wrong in wishing for things but do you really think people will rally for localization ? parties like loksatta can achieve this but not through a revolt. lets stick to the issue at hand for now to yellow fans - you have just been brain washed about babu like congress brain washed about nehru and indira. he is just another politician who got rich using power. a political party should be the property of people, not a family. stop being unpaid slaves to a family. and no matter who was in power IT would have been the same | ||
| Mega Side Hero Username: Mega Post Number: 4412 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 144.160.5.25 Rating: N/A |
Exactly. And this where the people should fight. This is what calls for a revolt. Not a separate state. | ||
| Sanman Comedian Username: Sanman Post Number: 1214 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
dani kosame kadha mee lanti medhavula opinioins adigedhi. under what conditions should new states be allowed ? SRC vesindhi national policy kosam kaadhu. aa time lo unna states reorganization kosam. policy kosam veste edhi policy ? who is others ? and you want politicians to do that out of all. democracy lo 51% majority. common consensus anedhi impossible. aa vishayam political parties ki kuda telusu. atla cheste ippudu unna political leaders okkadu next time elect kadu dabbu leka. kurchunna kommanu narukkoru vaallu. to yellow fans - you have just been brain washed about babu like congress brain washed about nehru and indira. he is just another politician who got rich using power. a political party should be the property of people, not a family. stop being unpaid slaves to a family. and no matter who was in power IT would have been the same | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 6425 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Ok, after a new state is formed, 90% of ppl from the north of that state will again demand for a separate state. Malli division aa, where will this stop? States formation should not be done on the whims of the people from one area. There should be a proper national policy on that. AP state gurinchi agitation vachinappudu okka AP ichesi oorukovachu gaa. Enduku SRC vesaru? Politicians then had the vision to see that a rational policy should exist on state formation. A proper metric should exist. Language is a very reasonable metric for a diverse state like India. If for some reason it is decided that a new metric is needed, then politicians should put forth that demand, and convince others. Ye region ki aa region separate state anukunte inka parliament enduku, central Govt enduku. I still wonder why ppl fail to see where the problem is. The problem is not giving local govts enough powers. Mana city lo school kosam ekkado minister, CM ni adukkovali. Mana drinking water gurinchi alage. Ippudu prathi city, village nundi ministers/CM raleru kada. And hence the most logical solution is to give more powers to village, city, and district level Govts. New states will never be a solution. | ||
| Sanman Comedian Username: Sanman Post Number: 1213 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
because right now the only way to form a new state is if the cabinet and majority in the parliament approve it if i am not wrong. what if 90% of a region wants a separate state but cabinet or parliament (both means party high command) doesnt want to do it state divide aithe mukkalu ainatta. 25 mukkalu enduku mari anni kalipi okate state cheste okate mukka untadhi basic common sense also suggests that USA with 30 crore population has 50 states. development aagipoindha. all the people who say bigger states are better for development will calm down when asked what is the reason for that formation of new states got nothing to do with secession. new states will still be part of Indian union to yellow fans - you have just been brain washed about babu like congress brain washed about nehru and indira. he is just another politician who got rich using power. a political party should be the property of people, not a family. stop being unpaid slaves to a family. and no matter who was in power IT would have been the same | ||
| Chivuks Side Hero Username: Chivuks Post Number: 8794 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 64.103.233.183 Rating: N/A |
ade setto .. countries ki kuda .. oka provision isthe.. ayi vadukuni .. kashmir, Assam, ArunaChala Pradesh lantivi seperate aipothayi .. happies ga untadi I am a Gultu to the core, for me there is ONLY one Super-Star | ||
| Katthi Side Hero Username: Katthi Post Number: 3077 Registered: 07-2010 Posted From: 24.34.29.159 Rating: N/A |
The major funny part is State division is related to administration. It is not related to religion,language or caste. In india nehru tied state with language which tied people emotions with state , caste and party. Asalu states divide avuthe people divide avutharu anedi comedy concept. Administration flexibility gurinchi chestaru. Kani india lo state ante it another contained country.. Asalu intha raddantham avasaram ledu.. Edo state divide avuthe vere desham avuthadi annantha feeling istunnaru.. chass.. asalu ee godavalu.. kotlatalu endi. edo country ki independance ki cheyyalsina antha struggle cheyyala?... enduku antha.. first mana way thinking marchukunte state division is easy.. Papi gadu post este katthi la digali | ||
| Chivuks Side Hero Username: Chivuks Post Number: 8793 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 64.103.233.183 Rating: N/A |
jai bolo <state-name> ane movie teesi .. migitha janalni andarni villains ga ettala I am a Gultu to the core, for me there is ONLY one Super-Star | ||
| Andhrawala Side Hero Username: Andhrawala Post Number: 5456 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 192.58.204.226 Rating: N/A |
Ippati daakaa no geographical area in any state said they want to be seperated inspite of having state capital in their region. Basic common sense is developement will be centered around state capital. so why the fcuck any area want to become separate state | ||
| Kurrokurru Junior Artist Username: Kurrokurru Post Number: 292 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 69.193.91.88 Rating: N/A |
Ilaa ee part ki aa part divide chesukonta pothe ..India motham mukkalu mukkalu avutundi...Idhe voilence area developement gurinchi cheyachu ga chesinte ippatike developement start ayundedhi...edho CAKE ni rendu pieces cheyamannattu adugutunnaru... | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 6415 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Why do we need to amend the constitution for this, adi cheppandi mundu. | ||
| Sanman Comedian Username: Sanman Post Number: 1212 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: |
we all condemn the violence happening in telangana but lets talk about alternatives. right now it is only possible through political lobbying and it is a game between political parties just based on if it benefits them or not. if the ruling party is against it, the only option left to people is violence. how can the constitution be amended to make the new states formation easier and peaceful and what provisions should be there in cases where capital city is geographically included in the new state. post your thoughts. if you dont have a thought on it, stop complaining about the violence and accept the fact that it is the only way to get a new state. to yellow fans - you have just been brain washed about babu like congress brain washed about nehru and indira. he is just another politician who got rich using power. a political party should be the property of people, not a family. stop being unpaid slaves to a family. and no matter who was in power IT would have been the same |
