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     Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7071 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
i never said i hate gandhi.....i like some of his ideas.....indulo disrespect emi vundhi....we are just discussing his legacy | ||
| Basky_indya Megastar Username: Basky_indya Post Number: 22795 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 72.181.54.77 Rating: N/A |
I did not read the full thread. Hope its not abusing gandhi. if its, then its the worst thing in this DB to happen. kRUshITHO nAsthee dURbhikSHAM | ||
| Guttonkay Side Hero Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 7974 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 148.87.67.135 Rating: N/A |
meeku enta ishtam lekunna oka sari death anniversary ani gurtunchukuni vundalsindi. People like me who like and respect Gandhi's ideals could think that you intentionally posted on Jan 30th. May be next time you will remember this  I always shoot for the moon. I miss. But, I am happy that I am still amongst the stars. | ||
| Netra Megastar Username: Netra Post Number: 20231 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 205.248.102.83 Rating: N/A |
godse mentally retarted.. period.. lekunte kaatiki kaali saachi koosunna musalayanni sampi emi baavukunnadu.. gandhi ni sampi godse baavukundhi endho intha varaku naaku samaj kaaledhu. Nehru PM, tarvaatha indira, tarvaatha rajiv ippudu sonia.. emi change chesaadu gandhi ni sampi.. YSR AMAR RAHE | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7069 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
ledhu...just found that article yesterday.....it was not my intention to disrespect him on his death anniversary | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 7754 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
ruj brother.. yaa your are absolutely right. Kakapothe ninna Gandhi vardhanthi kada edo mallosari argue sesukunte peddayana ni talchuknnatu ayiddi ani. | ||
| Guttonkay Side Hero Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 7972 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 148.87.67.135 Rating: N/A |
bro, meeru Gandhi's death anniversary ani ee thread start chesara? Just curious. I always shoot for the moon. I miss. But, I am happy that I am still amongst the stars. | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7067 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
patel gandhi ni ekkada follow ayyadu.....he just respected gandhi....patel gandhi ni follow aithe 500 pricely states india lo kalapa galigevadu kaadhu...he was a practical man....also patel and nehru agreed for division of india, they didn't like the gandhi's idea of making jinnah the prime minister of independent india...... i am not questioning gandhi's motivations, i am just contesting his idea of absolute non-violence....i also never said godes is comparable to Gandhi,bose, or azad.....he was just an ordinary guy who lost his balance with gandhi's irrational attitude | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 6266 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Patel, Lal Bahadur Shastry were also great followers of Gandhi. Gandhi cheepindi boothu aithe, Patel follow ayyindi kooda boothe. Kaani aayana meeku demudu. You seem to pick ppl and call them to be followers of Gandhi, as per your convenience. Ee disc eppatiki thegadu naa bottom line cheptanu. Gandhi, Patel, Bose, Bhagat Singh, Azad each one of them is a great patriot for me. Everybody with honest intentions followed, and did what they thought was good for the country, and devoted their life for it. Ideologies lo huge differences undachu. Kaani their intentions were pure. So, deentlo okaru thopu, inkokallu desanni nakinchesaru anadam lo point ledu. Bose hitler tho team up avvadam lo kooda nenu Bose di "mistake" ane antanu, kaani Bose desanni nakinchesadu, leader kaadu ananu. And that too, Bose could have never known that it was a mistake, those were desperate times. So I have no loss of respect for him. Bose tho poliste, Godse evaro gottam. Gandhi freedom struggle ni thappu gaa teesukeltunnadu ani Bose assasinate cheyachu gaa Gandhi ni. Enduku cheyaledu? Thana dari thanu choosukunnadu. Difference meeku artham autundi anukuntunna. | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7065 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
mari janalu follow ayyaru ani nuvvu cheptunnav ga | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7064 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: |
What happened to Gandhi's absolute idea of non-violence here? Role in World War IIn April 1918, during the latter part of World War I, the Viceroy invited Gandhi to a War Conference in Delhi[26] Perhaps to show his support for the Empire and help his case for India's independence,[27] Gandhi agreed to actively recruit Indians for the war effort.[28] In contrast to the Zulu War of 1906 and the outbreak of World War I in 1914, when he recruited volunteers for the Ambulance Corps, this time Gandhi attempted to recruit combatants. In a June 1918 leaflet entitled "Appeal for Enlistment", Gandhi wrote "To bring about such a state of things we should have the ability to defend ourselves, that is, the ability to bear arms and to use them...If we want to learn the use of arms with the greatest possible despatch, it is our duty to enlist ourselves in the army."[29] He did however stipulate in a letter to the Viceroy's private secretary that he "personally will not kill or injure anybody, friend or foe."[30] Gandhi's war recruitment campaign brought into question his consistency on nonviolence as his friend Charlie Andrews confirms, "Personally I have never been able to reconcile this with his own conduct in other respects, and it is one of the points where I have found myself in painful disagreement."[31] Gandhi's private secretary also acknowledges that "The question of the consistency between his creed of 'Ahimsa' (non-violence) and his recruiting campaign was raised not only then but has been discussed ever since." | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 6264 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
cheppukodaniki emundi prathi okkadu cheppukuntadu follower ani. Dani batti Gandhi di thappu ani decide chestara? WoW.. | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7063 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
so if his ideology killed wrong in a person....why india lead by his alleged followers became most corrupt and confused country? | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 6263 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Em failure? Gandhi AFAIK was leading a private life after independence. He was not part of the Govt.
Govt. follow avvatledu antaru meerey, malli Gandhi choopinchina path valley current situation, and problems antaru. Gandhi principles follow aithe problem emundi, kaani ippudunna parties anni meeru cheppina "rajaneeti" follow autunnaru. Anduke ila unnam. | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7062 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
tannulu tinaali ani decide aithe tinatam antha kastam kaadhu compared to taking risk of attack and getting hanged as a consequence...again i should say i am not against non-violent agitation, but gandhi has no right and business to go against revolutionaries...both could have worked parallely | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 7597 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 38.106.198.17 Rating: |
"ill the wrong in the person, but not the person himself." Naa yokka valla kadhu...bhagavadgeetha kooda pedhayane rasadu ani cheppandi daridram vadhilipotundhi | ||
| Guttonkay Side Hero Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 7969 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 148.87.67.135 Rating: |
 Can't say any better than you did. I always shoot for the moon. I miss. But, I am happy that I am still amongst the stars. | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7061 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
nenu kooda naa gurinche chepindhi.....i have a right of opinion ani chebutunna.....even during independence movement not everybody was with gandhi....he was popular at that time....had godse not killed gandhi people could see his failure within few years.....so if gandhi's ideas are so great why govt is not following his ideas?...according to him no police and military are required | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 6262 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
nenu cheppindi mee gurinchi, naa gurinchi kaadu. Gandhi school of thought ni oppose chese vallu continuous gaa cheppedi, aayana principles tho desanni nakinchesadu ani. Naa question enti ante, Gandhi cheppedi antha boothu aithe, who stopped these ppl from turning ppl away from him? Who stopped them from proving to ppl that their ideology is more practical to get freedom for the country. Poni Gandhi kooda freebies ichadu kabatti janalu follow ayyaru anukundamu ante, adi kaade. Musalayana kodithe kottinchuko antunnadu. Uppu karam thine evadiki aina kaluthundi adi vinte. Aina janalu Gandhi principles in prefer chesaru, than other more appealing methods. Instead of trying to prove that his ideology is wrong, Godse eliminated him "physically". Elago inkoka 2yrs aithe natural gane poyevadu. Simply put, Godse did not have the confidence that what he believed was better, than what Gandhi believed in. Godse was a coward who could not see the difference between winning over somebody ideologically, and eliminating somebody physically. Gandhi, on the other hand based the whole struggle on this single point. Kill the wrong in the person, but not the person himself. | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7060 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
o.k follow avvu.....ninnu follow avvadu ani nenu cheppana....i expressed my reservations to the absolute idea of non violence....don't you think i have my rigth of expression
it may be difficult for you and some may feel it's a safe and secured path atleast for leaders.....if some violence had happened on the ground british would have sent gandhi also to either mandalay or andaman....so he followed a more practical and safe path...that was a right strategy till independence movement became a mass movement | ||
| Ruj Side Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 3232 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 76.17.165.117 Rating: N/A |
gandhi meedha malli disco aa..  gandhini like cheyataniki vanda karanalu chooopisthe...dislike cheyataniki vanda choopettachu...trust me there will be no end to the disco.. ayina asalu gandhi in desamlo evaru pattinchukuntunaru??? nerhu indra rajeev bhajana ekkuva...gandhi bhajana chesina bagundu...hoplesss dumbos like nehru rajeev badhulu Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 6261 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
preach cheyaddu ani cheppataniki meeru evaru. Istam aithe follow autharu, lekapothe ledu. Munde cheppanu, Gandhi cheppindi boothu anukunte, boothu ani prajalaki cheppandi. Paiga ala cheppadam easy kooda, given that his path was more difficult than the others. | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7059 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
evaru preaching cheyyamannaru?....he could have explained it as a strategy in a particular context rather than making it an absolute principle for everything....avasaramaithe tooch anaali if it would serve the interest of people....FYI violence did take place during quit india movement | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7058 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
he might not be, but he gave that impression....what is his rationale behind sitting on a fast for giving money to pakisthan when lakhs are being butchered | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 6260 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
His method was non-violence. Appati varaku non-violence ani janalani pogesi, appudu tooch anala? dani peru rajaneeti aa? | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7057 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
Rajaneethi lo preaching kaadhu kavalsindhi....samayanukoolam ga naduchukovatam.......he used right methods to take message of freedom to the masses...but once the nationa stood behind him he became impractical, autocratic and utopian....If not for gandhi we don't know what would have happened....may be our independence maight be delayed by couple of decades but we would have earned it on our terms without current political and social confusion | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 7752 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
Godse ni demented annadi his view of Gandhi being anti hindu and pro muslim but in truth Gandhi is not. Inka gandhi sexual fetishes ni dementia and insanity ante emo adi vigyulake odilestha..Gandhi oka major pervert, kanapadda aadollani cherapatttadu anedi chupinchandi..nenu silent ga side ayipotha. | ||
| Jcgaru Junior Artist Username: Jcgaru Post Number: 102 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 72.101.156.19 Rating: N/A |
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| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7056 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
vundhi.....both are examples of your definition of insanity and extremism | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7055 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
not with grand neices...if he was interested in that path he should have left his leadership and practiced that path with willing female co-practioners.......conducting such experiments on innocent girls is definitely extreme in any sense | ||
| Bushu Comedian Username: Bushu Post Number: 1705 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 12.30.230.138 Rating: N/A |
Gandhi was the next avatar of vishnu. nathuram was bheeshma who was killed by deceit, by krishna. so ee janma lo reverse annatlu. all set. With Babu behind him, whenever NTR bent down, it was not just to pick up the stolen scissors or the silver plate. | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 7751 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
Ivala Gandhi followers antu evaru leru.. Ivalunna Congress party gandhi follwoers ante param bhoothu. What we have today are bunch of politicians who are too busy either fighting among themselves or fighting others. | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 7750 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
renditki ponthana undha brother? Godse thoughts lo reason ledhu anduke demented anna. Inka Gandhi Bramhacharyam gurinchi matuku - this was discussed once and if i remember it right, Ishan brother posted about this.He said those are commonly practiced in Tantrik school ani. Even then I am not sure how can we put Gandhi's bramhacharyam experiments and Godse extreme thoughts in same context. | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 6259 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Gelustadu gelavadu pakkana pedithe, it "appeals more to ppl", just like asking a person to take revenge by slapping back. Other parties sell what ppl like instantly, what fetches them votes. They do not have the courage to tell ppl the truth. Antha thope lu aithe free gaa TV istamu, free gaa 2000Rs istamu ani enduku cheppatam, election lo money/mandu enduku panchatam. Aina ye gelavatam gurinchi matladukuntunnamu? When more than 50%, mostly educated chose not to vote, and those who vote, vote for caste, religion, money, liquor? Deeni meeda kooda argue cheste, we are wasting our time anukuntunna. | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7054 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
it's the so called followers of Gandhi that destroyed his image after independence....people like me still haev high opinion on his ideas of economics summaraized by his statement..."nature has everything for man's need but not for man's greed" | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 6258 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Meeru chanakya annappudu ye non-violence ni preach chesado, irrational annappudu adey preach chesadu gaa. kaada? | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7053 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
JP reservation, color TV ni support cheste gelichestaadu antav aithe.....on what basis you say bose and other revolutionaries path is simple? | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7052 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
nuvvu emi argue chestunnavo naaku ardham kaala....i repeatedly posted gandhi started as a chanakya and ended as an irrational person | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7051 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
if Godse is demented individual....what should we say about gandhi's experiments?.....read the section under Brahmacharya http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohandas_Karamchand_Gandhi | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 6257 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Gandhi ki 1915 lone Congress lo control vachesinda? 1915 lone Mahatma aipoyada?
Telisi compare chestara, teliyaka? The path Gandhi took was difficult. The path others like Bose proposed is easy, and appeals to the masses easily. Okadu chempa meeda kodithe, inko chempa choopinchu, let him realize the mistake he did, ani convince cheyadam easy naa. Kottina vadi chempa pagalakottu ani convince cheyadam easy naa? Alage, the path JP took is difficult now. Pakkanodu neeku free ga TV istanu, free gaa 2000Rs istanu, neeku reservation istanu, corruption tho earn cheyadaniki free hand istanu ani cheptunte, money/mandu kosam vote veyaku. Corruption ni allow cheyamu, freebies ivvamu ani fight cheyadam easy kaadu. The whole difference is in the attitude/thinking of ppl, then and now. Ippudu Gandhi non-violence ante evadu dekhadu, alage aa time laga janalu unte, JP/LSP gelavatam kosam intha kashtapadakkarledu. | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 7748 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
Misjudgement kadu Nathuram was demented invidual.Meru ichina link lo few paras chaduthune telusthundi Godse had serious problems ani. Post independant India lo gandhi aura long gone brother.. it is sad but true.Ivala, Gandhi and his role in independence struggle, topic osthe extreme opinions vinipisthai.After his death, Gandhi gained lot of respect outside india where as inside, his charisma and aura declined through the decades. Mandela did not lived upto SA public expectations during his presidency yet he ddinot lose his status in the hearts of SA public similarly great ledaers of other nations.. Compared to Gandhi ,nobody suffered loss of respect, despite having committed some major blunders | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7050 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
mari JP ki correct ideas vunnayi ani neeku anipistunna YSR,CBN lanti vallaki enduku votes ekkuva padutunnayi? | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7049 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
he was in control of congress and people trusted and respected him as mahatma......but he didn't live upto their trust and expectations as a leader....if somebody wins a election and fails as a leader it doesn't mean it's the failure of opposition parties in the first place....sometimes people trust irrational and impractical people | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 6255 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Who is Gandhi to allow or not allow an idea to grow. Enni sarlu same point meeda vadistaru? Gandhi cheppedi thappu aithe moola koorchopettachu kada, evaru vaddannaru? Gandhi had an early advantage annadi pedha boothu. Gandhi vachindi 1915 lo. Migatha valla ideology correct aithe, sarina leadership unte, Gandhi em peekuthadu? Edo Gandhi special powers tho puttadu, aayana annadi edo thappaka oppukunnamu ani cutting enduku? illogical ga leda? | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 7747 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: |
enti aa history? i am curious to know.Gandhi lekapothe indian independence movement ki antha impetus ochedi kaadu ani nenu kuda Mr.Hyd lage anukuntunta.. neekada naa point of view ni contradict chese evidence unte ivvu.. chadukuni telsukunta. Evidence ante nee level ki thaggattu evience..subhash bhosle khosla articles kaadu.. Thanks in advance. | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7048 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
that was his misjudgement, otherwise indian history after independence could have take a different course,the aura around gandhi would have died natural death.....nehru himself could have plotted to assasinate gandhi | ||
| Jcgaru Junior Artist Username: Jcgaru Post Number: 93 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 72.101.156.19 Rating: N/A |
patelaa  | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7047 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
yes they failed......Gandhi had an early advantage, also he effectively used hindu philosophical ideas and imagery....I am not saying Gandhi is entirely wrong.....as i posted earlier he started as a chanakya and ended as an irrational and autocratic person....how do you explain his regualr blackmails to force his POV over congress....Gandhi's ideas were somewhat original when facing a monster like british empire with a couple of million army....again, movements like swadeshi and vandemataram occured before gandhi but were limited to maharastra,bengal and punjab....British throwed leaders in jails after each movement on false charges.....Gandhi made desire for freedom a nationwide movement but failed to lead it properly once the idea catched fire.......if not for gandhi communists could have taken over india given the failure of hindu leaders or Bose could have succeded with his twp pronged strategy, we don't know what wpould have happened......the problem with gandhi was he never allowed an alternative idea or effort with his impractical and irrational attitude | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 6254 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Nehru hindu hater aithe, chakkaga jinnah adiginatlu muslims ki separate electorates, reservation in parliament support chesevadu ga? Enduku daniki against gaa fight chesadu, along with Patel? | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 6253 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
perfect. Prathi daniki theraga dorikadu musalayana. Before Gandhi came to India, Cong was hugely anglicized. It was he who brought self respect into Cong, and led by example. Swadeshi concept ni baga popularize chesadu. That tells everything anukuntunna. | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 4983 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
I agree with the barbaric attacks, but what did the rajaneeti provide to counter this type of threat? wasnt it a failure of rajaneeti? the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 7595 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 38.106.198.17 Rating: N/A |
I think she is more qualified to talk abt polity and its history with her Phd in Economic policy from Georgetown | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 4982 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
yes, Nehru was an atheist. and so was Bhagath Singh, and many other socialist patriots. We never complain about Bhagath Singh or his book Why I am an Atheist, do we? We revere Bhagath Singh as a patriot and a marty. why are we being selective here.
yes, he did interpret the hindu scriptures in tune with his philosophy, that makes me feel that proponents of hindu scriptures failed big time, in being able to defeat Gandhi's understanding of the scriptures.
In what way is Gandhi's approach not a war? Im a bit busy to elaborate on this, but from a Dharmic perspective, I feel Gandhi's approach is as good as any other war, only that there were no arms on his side. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 7744 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
VJA bro. isnt that the reason why Nathuram killed Gandhi? Nathuram thought Gandhi became larger than life and Nathuram thought Gandhi very existence will put Hidutva in danger..atleast nenu artham chesukundhi ayithe alaga.. I think Gandhi wouldve got his Mahatma irrespective of nathuram actions... | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7046 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
they fought and were defeated and cheated by barbarians who didn't follow any code of conduct....but you cannot say they were proponents of violenece....violence is something that was perpetrated over unarmed masses by armed hooligans.....they nver resigned to their fate, they resisted in some form or other.....they fought a thousand year battle against marauders and by the time british entered the fundamentals of society were weakened and fragmented beause of continuous war...there was no rennaisance in hindu thought at a national scale in the last 1000 years | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 7743 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
Kotha vishayam emundhi indulo? India lo NGO pani cheyataniki elli idaa mee freind telsukundhi.. ee matram info Internet lo chala chotla dorukuthadi... If you dont like Gandhi and just type gandhi in google search bar. You will find plethora of literature on Gandhi antogonising his policies and actions. End of the day everyone of us will hear what we want to hear and believe what we want to believe. That said,I personally feel Many of us hate today's Congress party and think Gandhi put us in this mess and blame him for that. Manaki nahcanidi unte daniki evaro oka Bhakra dorakali kada.. so Gandhi becomes it. | ||
| Mrhyderabad Side Hero Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 9125 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.120 Rating: N/A |
mee level lo Indian history meeda print ayina books anni chadavakapoyinaa... brief gaa ayithe chadivinattu gurthu. 1857 nundi enni times enni areas lo attempt chesina 0.00001% effect kuda ledu till Gandhi came in to picture AFAIK He traveled around the country and understood the pulse of Indians. He knew that, we will never win against British in war. Almost 40 years... desam lo public ni, hundreds of leaders ni LEAD cheyadam no joke IMO We shouldn't blame Gandhi for what Congress did to our country. If i am not wrong, he proposed that cong should be dissolved once the country gets independence. Don't say you don't have enough time. You have exactly the same number of hours per day that were given to Helen Keller, Pasteur, Michaelangelo, Mother Teresea, Leonardo da Vinci, Thomas Jefferson, and Albert Einstein | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 4981 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
My Hyd bro, you are missing the point here, its not about Gandhi . Its about his idelogy. Hindsight, people complain about his idelogy, but the so called rajaneeti was an established philosophy, before Gandhi, and the proponents of this Rajneeti could not achieve what Gandhi's ideology achieved. These proponents now are trying to picturise Gandhi in a negative light, at a personal level. which he might be or might not be. they cant fathom that a strategy which seems stupid has taken the Rajaneeti proponents down to their knees in controlling the masses. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 6252 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: N/A |
"servility to the west" Born in India, grew up in India, lived in India for 20+ yrs. And we need an ABCD to tell us about servility to the west. Ironic. | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7045 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: |
Agree.....Godse act didn't help hindu cause...infact it left the field free and open to idiots and hindu haters like nehru......hindu political though suffered because of godse's act and gandhi became mahathma and immortalized otherwise his actions would have discredited him among masses
He interpretated the hindu scriptures to suit his so called non-violent philosophy....i won't be surprised if he had occationaly commented negatively on rama or krishna....
different schools could exist....but they should be within the framework of dharma.....a person can choose the path of karma, gnana or bhakthi but dharma is universal.....hindus always lived with strength and valour.....their idea of war is just war....just war was never considered a sin or a undesirable thing...infact they cherished fighting a just war and thought it as an oppurtunity to show their valour and gateway to veera swargam......During aswamedha yagnam they used to send a horse and challenge people to fight, but they never disturbed common folks....war for them is a fight between trained fighters...that is kshatriya spirit..it was when ashoka made buddism as state religion hindus lost that fighting spirit to some extent | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 7591 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 38.106.198.17 Rating: N/A |
papam...history chadavaledhu anukunta asalu...sweeping statements.....God bless | ||
| Mrhyderabad Side Hero Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 9124 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.120 Rating: N/A |
Chuss.. pani leni mangalodu pilli tala gorigaadu ane sametha correct Gandhi meeda pani kattukoni ilaanti articles raase vaallaki GANDHI ki ridicule cheyadam oka pedda fashin ayipoyindi that's mom... communication kuda sarigaa leni aa time lo desam mothaanni okka thati meeda nadipinchadam ante comedies aaa? PM selection lo Gandhi made a wrong step antunnaru kaani... aa Gandhi ye lekapothe asalu independence ledu, PM post ledu, ee tokkalo disco ledu anna point marchipothe etla? Don't say you don't have enough time. You have exactly the same number of hours per day that were given to Helen Keller, Pasteur, Michaelangelo, Mother Teresea, Leonardo da Vinci, Thomas Jefferson, and Albert Einstein | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 7590 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 38.106.198.17 Rating: N/A |
evaru nammina nammakapoina naa frnd oka ammai ABCD indialo NGO lo pani chestondhi last 4 yrs nunchi...thanu naaku rasina email....2 days back....verbatim copy paste: "I think the British sewed the seeds for an imminent disaster--because of their 200 year rule, Indians not only forgot their rich past, but became servile, developed severe self-insecurity, and an unseemly admiration for the West. But I don't think that the problem is entirely India's--the West too is at fault. Dipesh Chakraborty, an Indian historian, noted that every Indian historian must not only be well-versed in India's history but also that of Europe but European historians do not have to learn much about India--even though their histories are that of colonialism and imperialism. Ever since Europe's Enlightenment and the Industrialization Era, the rest of the world was always in constant comparison with the West, always thought of in terms of the West. But the West was afforded pronouncements and analyses that were independent of the East. In such disparity, I think nations might react in different ways--either completely divorce itself from the West, embrace and practice autarky, if you will, or attempt (and fail at) imitating the West. Obviously neither is the solution. For me India's servility started with Gandhi. Through my readings I understood that Gandhi is a glorified messiah that the congress wanted to shield from its blatant public policy fiascos. My respect for this old man has decreased several fold. I was brainwashed at georgetown on a man whose greatness was sheer selfishness masked as public good. Speaking of "best of all the worlds" I remember Leibnz's formula on our universe and Voltaire's novel, Candide, based on that formula--Voltaire concludes, amidst corruption, debauchery, lost love, moral degradation that all one can do in the end is cultivate one's garden, and in the end that's what Candide does. It's poignant but so beautiful. One of my favorite's. | ||
| Nanigadu Side Hero Username: Nanigadu Post Number: 5708 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 204.92.92.4 Rating: |
awesomoe bharani whistle icons voka 10 vesukondi ikkada Jo Na Janey Haq Ki taaqat Rabb Na Dewey Usko Himmat. | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 4980 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: |
people who cant fight with mind, fight with tools. as simple as that. Godse did not have a way to win over Gandhi's ideology, so had to kill him. nothing more nothing less. if you kill a civilian, whether its for material gain, or based on ideology, he is a criminal, not a patriot. do we really need a patriot who kills a civilian, especially an advocate of non-violence?
rajneeti defined by whom? by people who favor violence? these are the same proponents of rajaneeti who handed over entire india to ismalic fascists? these are the proponents of rajneeti who let British meddle with internal affairs of their kingdoms, just for to satisfy their petty ego? which rajneeti dictated this? the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 7742 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
Who is the enemy and who is the exploiter? In all cases, it is the common unarmed man/woman who becomes the victim of extremism. Nathuram drusthilo Gandhi enemy and exploiter ayyaddu so he thought eliminating Gandhi is the solution but would that act guaranteed preservance of Nathuram's hinduism? Infact Nathuram ye hindutva kosam Gandhi ni champado ade hidutva ki pedda macha techadu thanu chesina pani valla. Nathuram thinking that Gandhi mocked Hindu gods shows how demented he was. Godse actions meeru justify chesaru ani analed.. general ga antunna. As far as I know, Hinduism's one of the tenet is tolerance. If that is not then how can we explain the existence of different schools of thoughs , some of which even question the existence of God. Idhi gandhi cheppaledhu...already Hinduism lo chala chotlane undhi. Gandhi just reinforced the tolerance concept anthe. | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7044 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
India during british rule is different from what we see today....Gandhi's ideas were definitely needed intially to involve masses towards the goal of freedom.....but he beacame irrational and autocratic when desire for freedom catched up with masses....he tried to play safe but at the end he couldn't stop the disaster inspite of playing safe | ||
| Pathfinder Side Hero Username: Pathfinder Post Number: 4340 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 144.160.226.53 Rating: N/A |
db etiquette addosthondi thittaneeki, i wish i could find a more demeaning word than koward When Chiru gets down on his knees, it's not to pray | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7041 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
Gandhi is definitely not a coward....he started as a practical man(like chanakya) but ended as an irrational person whose personal truth and purity ois important than practical rajaneethi....he started as a visionary and ended as a failed leader | ||
| Cinejeevi Junior Artist Username: Cinejeevi Post Number: 705 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 91.103.41.50 Rating: N/A |
discussing about GANDhi is waste of time anukuntunna. indian history lo oka cheragani machcha GANDhi.. http://i53.tinypic.com/29cbgpf.jpg | ||
| Pathfinder Side Hero Username: Pathfinder Post Number: 4336 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 144.160.226.53 Rating: N/A |
This document has to go 2 every Hindu across the length & breadth of the Country. What a shame that being a democratic country,there is no free press. I wish some one here would start a website for Nathuram & Historic act to get rid of the Biggest Coward India has ever produced. Kudos 2 Nathuram Thanks Vja Vasi When Chiru gets down on his knees, it's not to pray | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7040 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: |
everybody has right for self defence against enemies and exploiters....but nobody has right of aggression of any form against common unarmed people in the name of religion or it's propagation
Who justified Godse's killing?......you are making sweeping conclusions bro
Again, your imagination....i don't either like or hate Godse..
This is modern flawed interpretation of hinduism by followers of Gandhi
krishna gave word to sisupala's mother that he would tolerate 100 mistakes of sisupala not because tolerance is a virtue..... | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 7741 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 71.248.179.139 Rating: N/A |
Ide rhetoric islam fundamentalists cheppi zeehad ni justify chesukuntaru brother..Would you say that they are justified in their cause? Palestine,Iraq and other african nations lo millions persecute avuthnnaru day in day out..adi reason ga chuyinchi konthamandi mullahs holy war chesthunnam antaru.. if we apply the same context as above then they are justified in their cause annatta? Whatever Godse thought of gandhi and whatever his justification is , his action is that of extremists. Godse killing of gandhi ni dharmic ga justify chesukunna or idealogical ga justify chesukunna adi murder. As simple as that. Gandhi ni hate chesthe cheyandi anthe kani gandhi meedunna hate tho Godse ni pujinchakandi.. Godse hinduism is not ur hinduism.. Hinduism is all about tolerance.. Krishnudu kuda shishupaaludi 100 thappulu opika tho khsaminchadu.Adi pakkanetti Krishnudu shisshupalunni chamapdu so manam atlane cheddam ante thappu. | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 6249 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: N/A |
sarigga nadavaleni musalayanni ideology lo oppose cheyaleka kalchi dobbadu. Godse may be a partriot but he is not righteous. Gandhi cheppedi trash aithe moola koorchopettadi babu, evaru follow avvamannaru? Turn the country against him, who stopped that? Idey mata oka 100 sarlu cheppuntanu. Gandhi had no magic wand in his hand, so that ppl will believe whatever he tells, esply when his path is the most difficult one. | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7038 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: |
Gandhi's irrational and hyprocatic attitude at the face of millions who are suffering could have prompted him to take that extreme decision.....that doesn't make him an extremist and violent position.....on the other hand gandhi was autocratic and practiced extremism for many years..... his ideas and actions resulted in death and destruction of millions.......theis is real extremism and violence......when you are in a responsible position and behave as a supreme leader you ought to take right decisions at right time to avoid voilence, this is the meaning of non-violence in rajaneethi......non-violence doesn't mean abstaining from doing physical harm all and sundry | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 7740 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 71.248.179.139 Rating: |
When godse took arms and killed Gandhi - right there he resorted to extremism.His justification for his action was Gandhi's pro Muslim attitude.His reasoning that Hindus be at risk if Gandhi is alive unequivocally puts him as an extremist. Gandhi's non violence is superficial to some and it is real and was result oriented for some.. depends where you are and how you see things brother. | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7037 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: |
non-violence is not a virtue in rajaneeti.....if somebody favours force it doesn't mean he is inherently extremist........Godse just wanted strong leadership...where and when did he advocate for extremeism?.........that's again an extreme view of looking at things.....what exactly is your definition of violence?.....at the end millions of people died and suffered becuase of Gandhi's superficial non-violence......real non-violence is doing right thing at the right time not utopian pacifism | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 7736 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 71.248.179.139 Rating: N/A |
Gandhi is undoubtedly extremists but good thing his mantra was non violence..But godse is an extremist who favored to violence..Evari valla nashtam ekkuvo easy ga cheppochu anukunta. Gandhi thana mondithanam valla desam ni nasanam chesadu ante .. adi forever debatable kani godse lantod ki upper hand doriki unte entha samajanik entha haani ayyundedi anedi antha debatable avvadu anukuntunna. | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7036 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
rhetoric enti avi facts kaadha?
Gandhi inko example anukuntunna extremism ki......Gose valla janam ki ekkuva natsam jarigindha leka gandhi valla jarigindha? | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 7734 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 71.248.179.139 Rating: N/A |
first 4-5 paras chadivina.. Except first and second paras rest of the stuff is anti-nonviolence and bashing Gandhi's pro Muslim rhetoric.Education ki extremism add ayithe samajaniki entha danger anedi godse story oka manchi example. | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7034 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
http://www.vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicDisplayArticle.aspx?id=36 5 Godse's statement in court - must read | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7031 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrNwjom_guc | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 7030 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
http://zoomindianmedia.wordpress.com/2009/10/02/musings-on-m ohandas-gandhi-balanced-and-factual-perspective/ good one....time to get out of Gandhi fixation..........Dharmic violence against enemies of state and humanity is part of Rajaneeti |
