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Mrhyderabad:

Thinking on the same lines... Thanks!




yes, that is a better choice. if you can convince them, try to work with them on free times, and weekends even before you officially start as a consultant. one of my current colleagues did that. once he liked the team, he started as consultant, and then eventually became a permanent member of the team. ofcourse you should be able to project it as a win-win situation.
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Mental_sachinodu:

not an easy decision to make


tell me about it

Mental_sachinodu:

many people getting into startups, start as consultants, and then move in to a permanent role, if they like the group.


Thinking on the same lines... Thanks!
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started my career in a startup, corp etta untadho just oohinchagalanu, per my preferences, i will take it, and grow or fall with it.

career wise there will be a lot potential. financially, it can be risky.

i still work 16 hrs a day sometimes, so be ready to drain yourself.

i would suggest analysing your preferred lifestyle, and make decisions. not everyone suits for startups, especially after a certain age. it will be pretty draining, and it will be like working round the clock. if you are going only for money into a startup, you might loose motivation after a while.

if you think you are suited for the role, think about the rest of the guys, and try to understand their style and passion. group dynamic is a very important factor. many people getting into startups, start as consultants, and then move in to a permanent role, if they like the group.

not an easy decision to make
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Elcaminocapastrino:




was referring to weather/not easy to leave conditions/native Americans population etc etc .. :-) $ same eyga ee state lo cestem emi undi :-)
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Mrhyderabad:

ee range lo billing chese one and only okka magaadu - ELCA. (A REAL CONSULTANT)


lol....400$/hr raavali antey oka mogadiki there are only two ways in US...one ...vadu oka high class gigolo iyyi undali .... two vadiki security clearance undi oka very sensitive defense project lo pani kottali.... but security clearance seyyichukotani oka 30k dhaaka avuddhi an inna...naa pina pukarlu lepaku ofcourse evaruu nammaranuko...
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Dakota states antey antha kindalaa??? most meat processing industries eedey untai...MN,SD,ND..infact mn lo oka peddha erp project start avuthundhi...omerica lo any burger joint ki aavu eeda nundey elthadhi...omerica any food industry ki corn eeda nundey ellathadhi...alanti company..accenture n ibm kalipi koduthunnai mem anna maakonchem eyyandanna annam...tharimesaru...ny kantey ee areas lo clients baa dhorukutaru...plus metta nayallu manamem chepthey adhey........
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Mrhyderabad:


email ichanu bro, check chesukodi
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Oohlala:

ante ippudu $400/hr istaru annamata


ee range lo billing chese one and only okka magaadu - ELCA. (A REAL CONSULTANT)
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Oohlala:

ante ippudu $400/hr istaru annamata


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Mrhyderabad:

???




dakota states
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Royal1234:

ND or SD


???

Venkateswarlu:

What is the riks here again?


start chesina 3 months ki company emaina ayithe malli shuru cheyyali kadaa. I am very lazy to search on my own.


Oohlala:

completely agree!!!


enti completely agree? already vomerica vachina 2 years ke aa trails kuda chesaa.. but naa freq ki own biz set avvadu ani close chesam within 6 months. eppudaina weekends OT chesthe, i always go for comp off instead of billing those hours. So own company set avvadu ani HD decide chesaa :-)
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Mrhyderabad:

Current C2C hourly rate kante 80% more.




ante ippudu $400/hr istaru annamata :-)
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Elcaminocapastrino:

mr hyd....u open ur own firm...inni rojula nundi pani chesthannav...oka us kurronni attukuni open chesko....okallaki pani cheyyatam eti nee level ki




completely agree!!!
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confidence ..:-)
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go far it, if you have enough contacts/conference, that you can pull offf some job in some place be it ND or SD or some other remote place when things don't work out :-)
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Mrhyderabad:

is it worth the risk? suggest cheyandi


What is the riks here again?
In this db, there's always someone watching you!!
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Mrhyderabad:


Meeru cheppina point kuda thinking. Right now i am being pampered here :-) 10 to 4.30 even though i bill 8 hours :-) vacations ki kuda manager time sheet sign chesthaadu for full 40 hours :-)


start up lo 5 years baga chakiri chesthey future lo inga baaga relax avvochu mama if everything works out....
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Thanks everyone for valuable suggestions.

As i said earlier, money is good. Current C2C hourly rate kante 80% more.

Oohlala,
Meeru cheppina point kuda thinking. Right now i am being pampered here :-) 10 to 4.30 even though i bill 8 hours :-) vacations ki kuda manager time sheet sign chesthaadu for full 40 hours :-)

kotha offer chebithe oka 20% ekkuva isthaaru ani guessing but they may not be able to match the offer.
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mr hyd....u open ur own firm...inni rojula nundi pani chesthannav...oka us kurronni attukuni open chesko....okallaki pani cheyyatam eti nee level ki
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start up ee tyfu .... wats the bg of people of that firm....ceo school eti....inthakumundhu em chesadu...personal life ettantidhi...eppudina tijuama underage pros tho pattupaddada....iyanni check cheskovali....
if everything looks promising...then its a good jump....twaralo mee company public iithey neeki manchi options istharu....click iithey veasy gaa millionaire avuthav....nee same position lo ibm lono leka ingo big firm lo pani chesey vadu inga attagey untadu with no good prospects....
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kf, akkada contracting,no stocks as of now
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Dosakaaya, in any company you have to grow, nobody will let you grow
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Kadapafan:

Start up Product company aithe stock options avi maatladukoni product interesting aithe jump kottochu. If it is a start up services, if they are not niche it doesn't make any difference


+1.

unless there is immediate x%age again, I may not be interested... but future enti, will you get a chance to become a partner... would the partners let you grow along with the company... as we are going through the uptick in the economy and in the cycle of recovery, if you have options like this.. then go
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Start up Product company aithe stock options avi maatladukoni product interesting aithe jump kottochu. If it is a start up services, if they are not niche it doesn't make any difference
India Rocks: Officially 750 Million + use English in India
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I would do it. I am also on H1 but i think the experience and the doors that it will open are boundless.. ofcourse you always have to think about other factors.
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Hyd, will you be doing anything different? acquire any new skills? will you be moving up horizontally or vertically? Startups are different beasts, the money is good, ofcourse at the cost of long hours and unpredictable environment. work ayina DB ayina 9-5 annaru, adi def ga kudaradu. Mee criteria decide chesukuni oka decision matrix vesukondi
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moving, traveling, $, learning curve (new techs), adjusting to new projects, adjusting to new teams, job hunting. ivi kakunda inkaa yemi factors unnay?

$ prakaram, you can take it. rest of the factors you have to decide.
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Mrhyderabad:

7 wall st tech guys formed this company some time last year. Hired another 8 guys in last 1 year.

They do tech consulting for big wall st n other financial firms. Bid for projects, POC, implementation etc.

Again, they are ready to take me as a h1b consultant through my h1b emp




so T&M annamata.

already on C-2-C and now will be on C-2-C. $ yekkuva vastey offer teesukovachu.
indulo alochinchadaaniki yemundi.

mee field lo meeku yee new job potey inkoti vastadi aney nammakam untey, jump jilani.
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Mrhyderabad:

they are ready to take me as a h1b consultant through my h1b emp.


I don't know if this can be a criteria, as long as the company can make money on you any of them will sponsor H1...

overall idea bane vundhi... meeku future lo mee meedha vache revenues meedha entha control vuntundha? bottomline as always, meeku enthat %age immediate gain
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Humpty_dumpty:

be prepared to shed every ounce of all types of fluids u r body has
long work hours... uncertainty with project launches, effect of market on company etc




i second regarding the work hours. If you are going in some big profile role then it is worth it but going in a some tech guy woud just mean that you wont be able to have meaning ful personal life.

Startup lo techie role lo promotions mean nothing.. Title lead ani ettukotanikie but day in day out you will be doing same dog work that you will do in a corporate setting.
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Vakkapodi:




oops that was a type, i meant MrHyderabad
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maverick, recent ga oka article chadivanu..regarding h1b and entrepreneurship.

Many bright engineers in Silicon Valley are unable to take up entreprenurial roles or work for startup companies coz of their onging GC processing in US. because of the h1b restrictions, they are forced to continue working in their present 9-5 jobs so as to continue with their GC process.
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Dosakaaya:



Proline:


Nothing like that. 360 deg feedback/suggestion teesukundam ane thread vesaa.. since it is a new arena for me.

7 wall st tech guys formed this company some time last year. Hired another 8 guys in last 1 year.

They do tech consulting for big wall st n other financial firms. Bid for projects, POC, implementation etc.

Again, they are ready to take me as a h1b consultant through my h1b emp.
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Mrhyderabad:


if you don't mind consider these factors....

1. entha %age immediate financial gain? H1 antunnaru, so startup kabatti konchem backup vunchukondi
2. what sort of product is it? product ki competetors vunnara, if so how different is this product?
3. any stock options? any chance this can be taken public... if before IPO, any suitors vundacha...
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Mrhyderabad:


discourage kosam kaadu kaani more than 80%(?) of the start-up companies fail avutay. so meeru product dev or T&M or what type of company ki velutunnaro cheppandi.
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Mrhyderabad:

Ide doubting lo vunte ceo oka 20 mins maatlaadadu abt current projects/prospecting ones etc


are they developing a product or selling knowledge? what type of company is it?
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Humpty_dumpty:

mgmt vision and execution matters a lot..
naa case lo ee factor ghorangaa fail ayindhee...so back to corporate


Ide doubting lo vunte ceo oka 20 mins maatlaadadu abt current projects/prospecting ones etc. Kind of convinced but still something pulling me back :-(

Mav,
current client - h1b emp ki between one prime vendor vunnadu. In the new scenario, my h1b emp can directly work for the firm. finacially it is a no brainer.
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current client ki mee ekpoyer ki layers unnayua? if yes, then this new one can be good in oneway
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Mrhyderabad:

hey are ready to take me as a consultant till i get ead (hope full by next year). startup c2c to my h1b emp.




ade cheptunna..if u r a contractor there, and don't make this move assuming u will get ead next year, if u dont, u r up for visa renewal and it can make things tricky
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nen consultant kaadhu but my take on this one based on my exp and ppl i interacted with..

if u want to see ur self in a business dvelopment role in the future to go with ur strong tech expertise...this is a good move...
if the company grows in the future u cud be in the core group...
but
mgmt vision and execution matters a lot..
naa case lo ee factor ghorangaa fail ayindhee...so back to corporate

be prepared to shed every ounce of all types of fluids u r body has
long work hours... uncertainty with project launches, effect of market on company etc

immigration wise...not a big deal if u can work it out with ur current employer and prospective one
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Maverick:


they are ready to take me as a consultant till i get ead (hope full by next year). startup c2c to my h1b emp.
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Maverick:


vaallu iche paisal ki ilaanti settings kudaravu :-)

Hero,
consulting.
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mr hyd h1 contracting meeda current scenario lo stability,current and past duration of contract and firm reputation mukhyam..start up ki direct ft offers ke india lo queries padutunnai..just imagine being a contractor there..i think u r up for renewal next yr. if i were u, i would not take chance
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>>current client/project 4+ years nundi nadustundi. And it will go on as long as >>firm is in biz.

Current full time ???

immigration point of view lo EAD/GC vache daka agithe better anukotunna
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parallel ga manage chey..if possible
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So far never worked for a small firm/start-up. So dont know how it is going to be.

Oka chinna startup with 15 people firm vaallu contact chesaaru. To join them.. company is 1 year old. All gore people. Final gaa md/ceo tho kuda maatladaa (chinna firm kabatti no big deal)

Company fundamentals/line of biz/current,future projects baavunnayi

Initial gaa north-east travel vuntundi 40% ante 'i can't travel beyond tri-state' adi kuda 10% ante 1 week think chesi ok annaru

As u know manaku inkaa GC kuda ledu. have to join on C2C.

current client/project 4+ years nundi nadustundi. And it will go on as long as firm is in biz.

Thinking abt all these - is it worth the risk? suggest cheyandi
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