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Senapathy:

India is in a rich hiring phase.


Thanks bro. Mee post copy paste chesi email chesthaa.. kurrodiki konchem confidence vasthundi :-)

Problem lekunte mee email id share cheyyandi. Future lo emaina info avasaram ayithe touch lo vunta Biology meeda ottu spamming seyyanu
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Mrhyderabad:

India lo opp's elaa vuntaayi if he decides to go back to desham in 2-3 years.




India is in a rich hiring phase. Which will stop in 3-4 years. Best time to go back to be in academia. IITs, IISERs full gaa recruiting. He will surely get into one of these.

Hyd lo IIT, BITS, TIFR unnayi. Apart from CCMB, IICT and UoHYD
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Ishan:

eb1 first category ki h1 avasaram ledu anukunna..may be i am wrong...i am not i n to that yet...




You are right. On J1 you have to do it urself and bear all the expenses. The company will not do it for you. And on J1 you are intending to go back to India. On H1 you are intending to stay here.
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Ishan:


One last Q - India lo opp's elaa vuntaayi if he decides to go back to desham in 2-3 years.

Kurrodu lab worm type... 24/7 aa lab chuttu tirugutu vuntaadu. (Another complaint from his wife)... So ilaaanti info pedda idea ledu. Anduke nenu asking
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Mrhyderabad:

H1 vasthe EB1 lo chestharu anta..


eb1 first category ki h1 avasaram ledu anukunna..may be i am wrong...i am not i n to that yet...

Mrhyderabad:


nenu ade chebutunna... u guys r blessed/lucky to get into harvard. we can only dream abt it ante "Initial gaa alaage vuntundi. But look at my boss. He has been working in harvard for 10 years... still getting 80-90k pay. We can't ignore the financial side of it" ani antaadu


One thing is for sure. If you want to earn money, becoming scientist is the last option you need to consider. You have to become a scientist ONLY if you are really really really passionate about science.
Life is 10% of what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it. John Maxwell
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Mrhyderabad:

We can't ignore the financial side of it




Prof aithey you are ur own boss. jab chahe aao.. jab chahe jaao types. Nahin aana hai mat aao. Conferences ke liye duniya ghoomo and sundar sundar logan ko hire karo. And you are surrounded by cream!
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Ishan:

has he considered applying toGC?


aa GC kosame kadaa H1 ki trying? H1 vasthe EB1 lo chestharu anta.. so 6-9 months lo vasthundi annadu

nenu ade chebutunna... u guys r blessed/lucky to get into harvard. we can only dream abt it ante "Initial gaa alaage vuntundi. But look at my boss. He has been working in harvard for 10 years... still getting 80-90k pay. We can't ignore the financial side of it" ani antaadu
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Mrhyderabad:

post-doc kuda almost complete (?) anukuntaa


he he there is nothing like end of a post-doc duration. Until you get your next job, you are a postdoc. I know some people who retired being a postdoc.

Mrhyderabad:

But he 'feels' that life & wife would've been much happier if he was it IT


he he its a normal symptom of being a post-doc. all he can and has to do is to have patience and keep trying to move to next level. Visa is the biggest hurdle to move on. has he considered applying toGC?

Senapathy:



Aada pilla vayasu, scientists publications adaga koodadu antaaru



Life is 10% of what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it. John Maxwell
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Mrhyderabad:

So appati nundi relate chesukoni inkaa ekkuva feel avutuntaadu sometimes :-)




Ask him to stop doing that. There is no end for that process. To be frank.. Try for a job that has maximum security. A worse fear is losing ur job.


Mrhyderabad:

how many papers did u guys publish so far?




Aada pilla vayasu, scientists publications adaga koodadu antaaru :D

Publications are important of you wish to be in academics. For Industry, the skill set matters.
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Ishan:

ask him to hang in there...



Senapathy:


Is he waiting for J1 waiver. That will take about 6 months in India for the no objection thing etc.

PhD chesinaaka malla IT lo jumping enduku?


Yeah. He is waiting for J1 waiver.

PhD ayipoyi, post-doc kuda almost complete (?) anukuntaa. Associate or assistant prof next step ani cheppadu.

He is not trying to jump into IT. But he 'feels' that life & wife would've been much happier if he was it IT. Tana friend wife J2 EAD vachaaka naaku telisina oka company lo training ippinchi HD company lo job set chesaam. Starting pay 100k+... zero IT exp for her till then. So appati nundi relate chesukoni inkaa ekkuva feel avutuntaadu sometimes :-)

Btw, how many papers did u guys publish so far? Idi chaala imp anta kadaa mee field lo?
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But I do have to agree that its a very interesting finding. Its a finding of its own kind - never before it was shown that genetic material can be made from other elements than CHONSP
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Ishan:

senapthy kurronni mana gang lo kalapaku...aayana manaku andani etthullo vunnadu





Ipc302:

senapathu garu




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Anand_n:

California lake lo mee chuttalu emo kanukkondi


Yee weekend visit chesi vastha vaallani :-)
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nenu almost bhumi puttinappudu puttaaanu...Anand akka naakanna oka roju mundhu




LOL :-)

Intaki aa NASA vallu kanipettindi bhumi meda puttina aliens anta - California lake lo mee chuttalu emo kanukkondi
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Bunty717:

meeru db pinni/atta kada.. GG kurrad sis ante..GG
age enta ayi untundi ani


nenu almost bhumi puttinappudu puttaaanu...Anand akka naakanna oka roju mundhu :D
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Ishan:

btw, senapthy kurronni mana gang lo kalapaku...aayana manaku andani etthullo vunnadu




senapathu garu
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Venkateswarlu:

I used to think hardwork and intelligence are inseparable.



Life is 10% of what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it. John Maxwell
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Venkateswarlu:

bil did in organic chemistry and now a scientist in big three pharma.. still an idiot..


idiot ayithe big pharma lo scientist etla ayyyindu dolling...anyways personally elaa vunnaa CV lo harvard ani vunte job hunt lo chala weightage vuntundi...

Ipc302:

abstract eppudu andhamga unthundhu results and discussion lo ne anni tappulu bayata padathayi


he he correct. btw, senapthy kurronni mana gang lo kalapaku...aayana manaku andani etthullo vunnadu
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Senapathy:

Telugu lo eduvu




series ni telugu lo emantaro teleedu..

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Emc2:

,3 series




Telugu lo eduvu.. lekunte Darren gadi style lo peedistha
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Senapathy:




,3 series
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Emc2:




Nee age emiti? Single aa?
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Senapathy:

priya ku line emi veyyaledu




priya ki kakapote radhika ki vesi untavu, inka emi chesavo evariki telusu.
emina chusi vachama.
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Emc2:

enti sangathi innocent la matladuthunnavu.




Hey.. nenu innocent ey. Nee laga priya ku line emi veyyaledu kadaaa :D
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Venkateswarlu:




I agree to your point.. We cannot generalize.

2 months ago, science/nature magazine lo article vacchindi. Which city in the world has the highest impact publications in all branches of science ani. Boston owns about 30% in the whole world. Isn't that an amazing stat.
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Senapathy:

Harvard lo unnatha out of box ekkada ledu


Harvard and MIT scholars ae kadaa derivates kanipetti wall steet ni m gudipindi.. :D

Dont go by the label dollin.. see whats inside.. not all post doctorals are good at what they do [in premier institutes..]

I do however have some understanding on how great these two institutes are.. am not writing off every graduate/post grad..
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Senapathy:

Meeru ee thaadu lo




kullu joke esav le kani,na intresting subject ide.na analasys kuda pettanu chudu deentlo NASA cheppakamunde,
na chinnappatinunchi discovery lo chupisthunnadu ilantivi deentlo kotta emi ledu,
enti sangathi innocent la matladuthunnavu.
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Venkateswarlu:

my Bil did his and he is an idiot




evaryayya akakada.. e maata intlo cheppandi satti mama ki itthaade e roju
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Venkateswarlu:

do their post doctoral programs
at places such as harvard.




Mee bondha :D

Harvard lo unnatha out of box ekkada ledu
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Senapathy:

Talent is everywhere annai.


May be.. I used to think hardwork and intelligence are inseparable.. but nah.. me dead wrong.. my bil is just a hardworker and I do know such guys who just follow and do what ever they are told.. but they lack out of the box thinking esp when they do their post doctoral programs at places such as harvard.. may be am wrong but just my observation..
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Ipc302:

inko bakra researcher






Andaru nee laa ne anukunnava?
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Venkateswarlu:

Post doc in harvard emundi dollin




Talent is everywhere annai. For some reason it tends to congregate at Harvard and MIT. Also the % of ground breaking work happens in Boston.
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Yaa yaa !



inko bakra researcher after ishan and me...biology aa chemistry aa ohysics aa research area
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Post doc in harvard emundi dollin.. my Bil did his and he is an idiot.. I guess it depends on what field you do to appreciate harvardness.. bil did in organic chemistry and now a scientist in big three pharma.. still an idiot..
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u on J1






Yaa yaa !
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Enduku malla malla gurthu chestunnav



u on J1
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Boston sallaga untadi ani aadiki povaddu ani decide jeshna


gattanaa...nenayithe manakoche thokkalo salary ki aa cost of living ki assal padadu ani vaddani decide chesna...manaki texas aa best
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Senapathy:

Well, the substitution is 10% arsenic. The growth of the bacteria is usually 60% when deprived of phosphorous.

Based on this result, speculating about alien life is a stretch. I totally believe such life on our planets where humans do not have access to.




alien life ani okate gola....i will be surprised the day they find gentic material other than DNA, RNA or protein...appaati daaka arsenic can replace phosphorus and carbon can be replaced by silica based life


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BTW complete article inka dorakaledhu but as far i undestand they say that arsenic is replacing in the absence of phosphorus...motham sadivithe telusthundi entha varaku sustain avuthundho ani...abstract eppudu andhamga unthundhu results and discussion lo ne anni tappulu bayata padathayi
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Emiti Kasi kamesh gaaru. Meeru ee thaadu lo :-)
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Ishan:

postdoc at harvard is a dream for many phds




Boston sallaga untadi ani aadiki povaddu ani decide jeshna :D
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Gender question ayite - sister/pinni is right



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j1 is a dangerous thing






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Based on this result, speculating about alien life is a stretch


chala too much sesthunnar...eellaki leka leka oka science paper vochinattundi...kotha bichagaadu podderagadu annttu nasty ga behave chesthunnar

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sometimes i feel the same too...i am looking for jobs and the pay is 40-48K per year and thats in good universities or labs and expect you to do a sxit load of work....it feels so disappointing that u work 5-6 years for your phd and in return u get a job that pays peanuts and there is no growth in post-docs life



Mrhyderabad:


ask him to hang in there...postdoc at harvard is a dream for many phds...j1 is a dangerous thing...i never had one but know the stories...so i cant give any info on that
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Well, the substitution is 10% arsenic. The growth of the bacteria is usually 60% when deprived of phosphorous.

Based on this result, speculating about alien life is a stretch. I totally believe such life on our planets where humans do not have access to.
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Emc2:

sister ante ardham avvledu andukani.




Gender question ayite - sister/pinni is right :-)

Senapathy:

Full replacement ayithey




Did I understand the other article right and it is full substitution?


Cool stuff :-)

"However, Professor Davies said, the fact that an organism that breaks such a perceived cardinal rule of life makes it is a promising step forward.

"This is just a weird branch on the known tree of life," said Professor Davies. "We're interested ultimately in finding a different tree of life... that will be the thing that will have massive implications in the search for life in the Universe.

"The take-home message is: who knows what else is there? We've only scratched the surface of the microbial realm."
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11886943
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Ipc302:

substituting phosphorous as the DNA backbone and also in protein structure




Other point to note will be extent of substitution. The article says evidence of arsenic presence. Full replacement ayithey
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meeku emaina telisthe cheppandi




Is he waiting for J1 waiver. That will take about 6 months in India for the no objection thing etc.

PhD chesinaaka malla IT lo jumping enduku?
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kikiki... experience counts :D
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Vasthadi vasthadi.. tondaralone vasthadi




science journal lo publish ayyindhi anta....u r right looks like arsenic is indeed substituting phosphorous as the DNA backbone and also in protein structure....thats a very interesting scenario....
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Anta surprise emiti ?




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Ishan:


meeku emaina telisthe cheppandi
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Mrhyderabad:

Ohh avunaa? Mana HCU lo phd chesaadu then came here on J1 for post-doc. India ki docs pampi 6 months ayinaa no response anta.



indian govt ante alage untundhi....


Mrhyderabad:

Nenu ade antunte kurrod vinadam ledu. ee field vadilesi IT ki vachestha antaadu sometimes. As you may be aware... tanu, valla friends anta harvard, MIT lo post-docs... evariki 50-60K kuda pay vundadu. Obvious gaa IT looks very rosy to them...

Grass is always green on the other side of the lawn ante ide emo




sometimes i feel the same too...i am looking for jobs and the pay is 40-48K per year and thats in good universities or labs and expect you to do a sxit load of work....it feels so disappointing that u work 5-6 years for your phd and in return u get a job that pays peanuts and there is no growth in post-docs life
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Ipc302:

J1 to H1 seems to have such problems due to clearance issues


Ohh avunaa? Mana HCU lo phd chesaadu then came here on J1 for post-doc. India ki docs pampi 6 months ayinaa no response anta.


Ipc302:

BTW post-doc in harvard thats excellent


Nenu ade antunte kurrod vinadam ledu. ee field vadilesi IT ki vachestha antaadu sometimes. As you may be aware... tanu, valla friends anta harvard, MIT lo post-docs... evariki 50-60K kuda pay vundadu. Obvious gaa IT looks very rosy to them...

Grass is always green on the other side of the lawn ante ide emo
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Mrhyderabad:

ekkada bro? r u on J1?
my bro is doing post doc in harvard. He came here on J1 couple of years ago. Ippudu H1 ki papers pampithe govt india nundi inkaa clearance raaledu ani too much worrying. Do you have any pointers?




i am doing phd in texas , right now on F1 student visa ..sorry I don't have any knowledge about J1...
J1 to H1 seems to have such problems due to clearance issues
mostly J1 visa holders (at least the ones i know) leave the country once they r done with their post-doc...if u do phd here u go to H1B or H1 academic type of visa which makes things a little easy

BTW post-doc in harvard thats excellent

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nenu phd biology lo sesthunna


ekkada bro? r u on J1?
my bro is doing post doc in harvard. He came here on J1 couple of years ago. Ippudu H1 ki papers pampithe govt india nundi inkaa clearance raaledu ani too much worrying. Do you have any pointers?
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Ipc302:

nature/cell/science lo article publish chesthe clarity vasthadi....




Vasthadi vasthadi.. tondaralone vasthadi
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When more details emerge. We will know of the egjact changes




mostly nature/cell/science lo article publish chesthe clarity vasthadi....
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When more details emerge. We will know of the egjact changes
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Senapathy:

Ishan will be happy to know.




ishan ki telusu

Senapathy:

Maa evolution thaadu lo enduku milk share cheyyaledu.. Common I say.




idhi eppudu vesaru ...unte link ivvandi and evolution ani thed title lo unte nenu guarentee ga oka opinion icche untanu
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nenu phd biology lo sesthunna






Mari inni rojulu ekkada tagaladdav. Ishan will be happy to know. Maa evolution thaadu lo enduku milk share cheyyaledu.. Common I say.
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Senapathy:

Bedar. U seem to have some bio knowledge. Coooool






nenu phd biology lo sesthunna

Senapathy:

My point is - the biologists have already coaxed bacteria to live on insufficient nutrients to adapt. Simple change is changing methionine to selenomethionine. Bacteria get toxic but still live. The DNA here is still Phosphorous based.

But the new life form is completely dependant on arsenic, which means the DNA should be also arsenic based. The energy currency - as u said will be ATArs.




the case of bacteria adapting to the existing nutrients is well documented...in this particular case i don't think they have yet proved Arsenic as the nucleic acid backbone which would be a big break through considering arsenic has some metallic properties unlike phosphorus which is a non metal.....
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i don't think arsenic is becoming a part of DNA structure....Arsenic is substituting phosphorus by replacing phosphate which is a part of ATP or inorganic Pi...as u know ATP is the driving force for energy in any cell so may be Arsenic is becoming a substitute....Since Arsenic and phosphorus are from the same Family it might be a possibility




Bedar. U seem to have some bio knowledge. Coooool :-)

My point is - the biologists have already coaxed bacteria to live on insufficient nutrients to adapt. Simple change is changing methionine to selenomethionine. Bacteria get toxic but still live. The DNA here is still Phosphorous based.

But the new life form is completely dependant on arsenic, which means the DNA should be also arsenic based. The energy currency - as u said will be ATArs.
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Senapathy:

Next step in evolution anthey. DNA lo phosphorous backbone is replaced by arsenic. It is initially a toxic substitution, but the lifeform will adapt. BTW ee poisonous lake and unhabitable places lo evolution is seen at work




i don't think arsenic is becoming a part of DNA structure....Arsenic is substituting phosphorus by replacing phosphate which is a part of ATP or inorganic Pi...as u know ATP is the driving force for energy in any cell so may be Arsenic is becoming a substitute....Since Arsenic and phosphorus are from the same Family it might be a possibility....all in all nothing new about finding microbes in severe environments...its just adaptability to that particular environment....not sure why they r extrapolating this finding to extra terrestrial life(hoping that such life might exist in other planets)
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on a meteorite
or some other transport




Koncham tough to believe. Endukante temperature fluctuations untaay kadaa. We could survive on liquid water just coz of the distance from sun.

May be super evolved bacteria can live on meteorites.

I like the word "seeding" - very technical and corresht!
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Senapathy:

Next step in evolution anthey. DNA lo phosphorous backbone is replaced by arsenic. It is initially a toxic substitution, but the lifeform will adapt. BTW ee poisonous lake and unhabitable places lo evolution is seen at work




Was thinking on similar lines - why can't it be just adaptation ani :-)

But then if this is the first time this particular change has been recorded in one place where there is possibility of life coming in on a meteorite or some other transport - it just gives a boost to the theory of panspermia - tyhat life on earth was seeded from space to begin with :-)
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nakenduko "Deception Point" story gurtostondi ee NASA revelation chaduvutunte.
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Next step in evolution anthey. DNA lo phosphorous backbone is replaced by arsenic. It is initially a toxic substitution, but the lifeform will adapt. BTW ee poisonous lake and unhabitable places lo evolution is seen at work
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Anta surprise emiti ?




meeru db pinni/atta kada.. GG kurrad sis ante..GG
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Here's the update :-)

http://m.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/12/nasa-finds-new-life/ ?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ wired%2Findex+%28Wired%3A+Index+3+%28Top+Stories+2%29%29&utm _content=Google+Reader


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Anta surprise emiti ?
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/trailor kuda chupinchaledu ?


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Emiti mee friends NASA ki interview iste meeru maku kaneesam preview /trailor kuda chupinchaledu ?
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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akkada bokka emi undadu,they will talk about micro organisms and they will tell you bout conditions to form a life,
finally they will tell you to conclude your self,i don't think they will ever tell you weather they encountered so called movie aliens.
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more @ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1334628/Astrobiology -findings-Alien-bacteria-lives-arsenic-Californian-lake-open s-search-life-planets.html
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http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2010/nov/HQ_M10-167_Astrobio logy.html

more details @ http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/12/01/did-e-t-finally-phone-h ome/?hpt=C2

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