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Vjavasi:

prathi daaniki time vuntundhi.




Ippudu time kaada annai? Enti problem?
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Intha pedha conspiracy unte Modi gajulu thodukkuni untadu anukonu. And, Cong lo andaru durmargule leru.




prathi daaniki time vuntundhi....okka sari debba veste malla leva koodadhu....let's see how it goes in future....time aithe daggarapdindi
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Kamal:

IR annai .. particularly nee response kosam waiting .. just tell me .. did he make sense to you or not .. BJP lo entha mandi follow avutunnaru etc etc taravata discuss cheddam ..




Kamal, office lo choose time ledu. Choosaka chepta.
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Aina aa Swamy gaaru eppudu out of India ne istare speech lu, India lo ivvachu gaa.

FIR pettaledu ani case kottesara? There are so many BJP states, Modi tho matladi, oka Guj police station lo open cheyachu gaa case?

Intha pedha conspiracy unte Modi gajulu thodukkuni untadu anukonu. And, Cong lo andaru durmargule leru.
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annai grow up. Sonia thellaga untundi ani, lekapothe inkedo ani respect ivvaru. What ever Swamy, or somebody says, she is an MP, and leader of the ruling party.So aa position ki ivvali respect




nenu grow avvanu.....naa drusti lo she is a mafia and foreigner....i feel shameful and insulted by her role in the affairs of my country....she has no business in the affairs of my country


Indiarocks:

Opposition aithe eduru padithe boothulu thittukovala?




bhootulu tittamani evaru annaru edurupadithe....intaku mundhu leni alavatlu ippudu enduku antunna
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parliament lo kaakunda inti daggara party ki kooda pilichaadu.....mafia chorava choopinchi kaneesam advani to maatladatam kooda choodala eppudu...adhi eppudu pedda maha rani lane level choopinchedhi.....daanito personal relationship avasaram antava advani lanti vaadiki.....poni mundhu nundi vundhaa ante adhee ledhu.....daani role meedha serious reservations vunna taravatha inka personal muchatlu enti...inka evari vishayam lo aina o.k kaani kantri mafia vishayam lo kaadhu..that too when it's scheming against nationalist forces....advani lost precisely because of this kind of oppurtunistic attitude.....modi choodu tit for tat anattu vuntundhi....perception matters in politics




annai grow up. Sonia thellaga untundi ani, lekapothe inkedo ani respect ivvaru. What ever Swamy, or somebody says, she is an MP, and leader of the ruling party.So aa position ki ivvali respect. Opposition aithe eduru padithe boothulu thittukovala?
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Getafix:

t is not GOI which is not allowing, it is WTO agreement which is limiting us to export.

As member nation of WTO and signatory of uruguay around on agriculture in 1994 , we are bound to import some of food grains and we are also bound to not allow some exports because we have not not yet totally opened our markets to foreign agril produce and we provide domestic subsidies to our farmers.

The 1994 Uruguay AoA clearly states that - countries which provide domestic subsidies to farmers are not allowed to export.Ofcourse there are some exceptions to the kind of subsidies provided though.

nenu first post lo unna vids chudaledhu.. kani okati 16 yrs kritham raasukunna agreement prakaram ga elthunnam. Videos lo emundhi telidhu kani innallu lenidhi sudden ga ochi export endhuku cheyanivvatledu ante daniki reason idhi.




I don't believe this. JP antha pichodu kaadu.

Thailand is a WTO member. Ikkada choodandi, India rice import tax 0 chesindi ani, Thai farmers pandaga cheskuntunnaru.

http://www.riceland.co.th/previousnews.html

Rice farmers and the government will soon enjoy better prices due to higher global demand and a shortage in India

See how their Govt. is protecting their farmers.

Under the government's guaranteed-income project, when farmers receive less than the guaranteed price from selling their crops, it will pay the difference between the guaranteed and reference price
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Kamal:

naaku telidu annai .. ee madhya evariki call kuda cheyyatledu .. kakapothe meeru cheppina episode lo tappemundi .. bday ki pilicharu anthe ga .. adi kuda parliament lo tana chamber lo tea ki .. actually pilavadam ela ayyindi ante .. pratibha(kuturu) was in advani's office and Rahul/Sonia were waiting for their cars in the lobby ata .. sare choosi .. cheppindata .. maa daddy bday .. please comeover for tea ani .. Soniamma raledu .. kaani Rahul vachi .. tea tagi velladata .. pioneer lo chadiva .. as it is ga true translation ..




parliament lo kaakunda inti daggara party ki kooda pilichaadu.....mafia chorava choopinchi kaneesam advani to maatladatam kooda choodala eppudu...adhi eppudu pedda maha rani lane level choopinchedhi.....daanito personal relationship avasaram antava advani lanti vaadiki.....poni mundhu nundi vundhaa ante adhee ledhu.....daani role meedha serious reservations vunna taravatha inka personal muchatlu enti...inka evari vishayam lo aina o.k kaani kantri mafia vishayam lo kaadhu..that too when it's scheming against nationalist forces....advani lost precisely because of this kind of oppurtunistic attitude.....modi choodu tit for tat anattu vuntundhi....perception matters in politics
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kamal emanna internal party gossips vunte cheppu.....
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meere gossip cheppesi nannu malli cheppamantare .. :D

j/k

naaku telidu annai .. ee madhya evariki call kuda cheyyatledu .. kakapothe meeru cheppina episode lo tappemundi .. bday ki pilicharu anthe ga .. adi kuda parliament lo tana chamber lo tea ki .. actually pilavadam ela ayyindi ante .. pratibha(kuturu) was in advani's office and Rahul/Sonia were waiting for their cars in the lobby ata .. sare choosi .. cheppindata .. maa daddy bday .. please comeover for tea ani .. Soniamma raledu .. kaani Rahul vachi .. tea tagi velladata .. pioneer lo chadiva .. as it is ga true translation .. :D

politics lo personal enmity undakudadu annai .. unte .. Indira emergency time lo .. opposition members ni jails lo pettinchinatte untundi ..
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kamal emanna internal party gossips vunte cheppu......monna advani mafia ni birthday party ki pilichaadu...mafia nenu busy pappu ni pampista le ani chepindhi.....enduku aa candidate ki antha desperation ee vayasulo.....haayiga relax kaakunda......vunna gouravanni kooda pogotukuntunnadu......sushma & advani are sucking upto mafia bigtime
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Mana desam lo north lo basamti and south lo sona masoori popular.. ee rendu varieties china lo pandalevanukuntunnava?
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yes .. basmati ki patent issues evo unnayi and its production is thus restricted .. alage .. other varieties of rice China lo pandakapovadaniki one of the main reasons weather .. china lo pande rice .. very very inferior quality of rice ..
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Getafix:

alatidhi rice pandnchi manaki ammakudam pedda difficulty em kaadhu.


we need to stop being afraid of competition.
china will never do that because just like us, they falsely worry about food security. also they can subsidize either industries or farms. they cant do both. even if some big country with suitable conditions does this, only the first year will be a surprise. following year the world will adjust to the new developments by raising other crops of other variety of crops.
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Kamal:

vaammo .. ye rice aina ekkadaina pandestundi anukuntunnava??? I am sure ikkada chala mandi farming families nunchi vachina vallu unnaru .. they can explain u better ..




aarini antha idea lekunda esina anukunnava aa post .. china is one of the largest producer of paddy.. china lo manalaage rice ye thintar kakapothe variety of paddy is different.

Mana desam lo north lo basamti and south lo sona masoori popular.. ee rendu varieties china lo pandalevanukuntunnava? Any paddy variety needs standing water in fields and good climatic conditions. China ki unnayi avi.
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is party president elected or appointed ? if elected, who else contested ? if appointed, who appoints them. never heard of gadkari before he became president. question for kamal. nothing to do with this thread
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I donno if u want call it election/appointment .. here is what happened .. since BJP and RSS are closely connected and when it was time for a new party president .. BJP leaders were suggested by RSS that Gadkari could be a gud choice .. members in the party were "consulted" about their opinion and once every one was on the same page .. he was elected/nominated ..

videos choodu .. choosi opinion cheppu ..
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China lo pande rice ki mana deggara market eldu kabatti imprt kaatledu ante toomuch.. China , manaa deggara demand unna rice pandinchi mana import cheyataniki entho time pattadhu..U.S lo untunnam.. manam intlo kurchune kurchi kuda China make ye..alatidhi rice pandnchi manaki ammakudam pedda difficulty em kaadhu.
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vaammo .. ye rice aina ekkadaina pandestundi anukuntunnava??? I am sure ikkada chala mandi farming families nunchi vachina vallu unnaru .. they can explain u better ..
Sumiran karle manvaa .. Shri Ram kaa .. sukh daam kaa ..
Shiv shankar ne jaap kiya tha .. do akshar ke naam kaa .. :-)
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Sanman:

good point. if a country is subsidizing its farmers and also exporting, then its time to import because it is cheaper. that means another country is sharing its wealth indirectly.
1) they cant do it forever without hurting their economy
2) our farmers raise other crops based on last year's prices/demand

just remember that as a nation we need to make the most profit out of what we are good at doing. and India is good at producing food. no other country can compete with us if our farmers are not being suppressed from getting fair market prices




what crops will farmers rise when their cost of production is higher compared to the world....as far as agriculture is concerned if you can't compete in one product most likely you can't compete in most of the essential items......cost of production is not dependent only on subsidies, factors like size of land holdings, yield per acre play an important role.....also if they dump cheap genetically modifies products then local farmers have to go for genetic varieties to compete....it will mess up the whole diversity...agriculture is something which should be more localized than globalized......localized doesn't mean they shouldn't get good prices....local demand can always give better prices if left alone
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Kamal:

BJP president Nitin Gadkari


is party president elected or appointed ? if elected, who else contested ? if appointed, who appoints them. never heard of gadkari before he became president. question for kamal. nothing to do with this thread
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Inko vishiyam

China lo pande rice ki mana deggara market eldu kabatti imprt kaatledu ante toomuch.. China , manaa deggara demand unna rice pandinchi mana import cheyataniki entho time pattadhu..U.S lo untunnam.. manam intlo kurchune kurchi kuda China make ye..alatidhi rice pandnchi manaki ammakudam pedda difficulty em kaadhu.
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Manam ippudu India lo vaade sugar import cheskunnade. Alage Palmolein is being imported.




It is not GOI which is not allowing, it is WTO agreement which is limiting us to export.

As member nation of WTO and signatory of uruguay around on agriculture in 1994 , we are bound to import some of food grains and we are also bound to not allow some exports because we have not not yet totally opened our markets to foreign agril produce and we provide domestic subsidies to our farmers.

The 1994 Uruguay AoA clearly states that - countries which provide domestic subsidies to farmers are not allowed to export.Ofcourse there are some exceptions to the kind of subsidies provided though.

nenu first post lo unna vids chudaledhu.. kani okati 16 yrs kritham raasukunna agreement prakaram ga elthunnam. Videos lo emundhi telidhu kani innallu lenidhi sudden ga ochi export endhuku cheyanivvatledu ante daniki reason idhi.
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BJP president Nitin Gadkari talk at the launch of BJP economic forum .. pretty long .. daanto kontha sodhi kuda add aipoyindi .. kaani this is talk is about the larger picture than just agriculture .. starting from power, infrastructure, tourism, employment along with agriculture etc .. he has some substance for sure ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WoeTsq49mk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NNvELvDMac
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty-GaWIOZT4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY88R2n3wyM

IR annai .. particularly nee response kosam waiting .. just tell me .. did he make sense to you or not .. BJP lo entha mandi follow avutunnaru etc etc taravata discuss cheddam ..
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countries can intentionally subsidize farmers and make their products less expensive compared to the rest of the world to kill competetion......also farmers in countries like US cultivate 1000's of acres,so their cost per unit could be very less compared to indian farmers costs...if you leave agriculture to global forces then you are letting them to fix prices and kill competetion by manipulation.....also cropping patterns can become very unbalanced and fluctuating.....we will loose our food security and independence in agriculture




good point. if a country is subsidizing its farmers and also exporting, then its time to import because it is cheaper. that means another country is sharing its wealth indirectly.
1) they cant do it forever without hurting their economy
2) our farmers raise other crops based on last year's prices/demand

just remember that as a nation we need to make the most profit out of what we are good at doing. and India is good at producing food. no other country can compete with us if our farmers are not being suppressed from getting fair market prices
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mana interests ni protect cheskuntu, globalization ni benefit kosam use cheskovachu.

The key is allowing the farmer enter the global economy, albeit a restricted entry.

Ledu ala cheyamu ante moosukuni inflation entha undo antha Govt. price penchali.

Exports kooda direct gaa farmer kakunda, Govt can do, so that it can control how much is being exported. Kaani farmer ki profit sharing undali.

Ila lekapothe konni yrs aithe, India lo farming undadu.





i agree....cropping patterns and exports & imports need to be controlled but there should be no internal control on price.....let internal markets decide...also there should be proper frame work for internal marketing in place....there should be adequate storage capacity also
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Ila lekapothe konni yrs aithe, India lo farming undadu.




already chala mandhi vadhilesthunaaru bro. its sad but farmers are leading a very troubled life.
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Vjavasi:

if you leave agriculture to global forces then you are letting them to fix prices and kill competetion by manipulation.....also cropping patterns can become very unbalanced and fluctuating.....we will loose our food security and independence in agriculture




mana interests ni protect cheskuntu, globalization ni benefit kosam use cheskovachu.

The key is allowing the farmer enter the global economy, albeit a restricted entry.

Ledu ala cheyamu ante moosukuni inflation entha undo antha Govt. price penchali.

Exports kooda direct gaa farmer kakunda, Govt can do, so that it can control how much is being exported. Kaani farmer ki profit sharing undali.

Ila lekapothe konni yrs aithe, India lo farming undadu.
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the difference between metals and food is that metals prices can be manipulated by expanding/contracting the supply of metals but they cannot do it with food as they cannot store food for long amounts of time. whenever we think that our farmers should be able to sell to the international market we shudder to the thought. why ? why should a software company or auto manufacturer or textile maker be able to sell to the highest bidder but when it comes to the farmer we want him to favor his country first. why cant he be the one that makes the most money and everybody else make their living from what he spends




countries can intentionally subsidize farmers and make their products less expensive compared to the rest of the world to kill competetion......also farmers in countries like US cultivate 1000's of acres,so their cost per unit could be very less compared to indian farmers costs...if you leave agriculture to global forces then you are letting them to fix prices and kill competetion by manipulation.....also cropping patterns can become very unbalanced and fluctuating.....we will loose our food security and independence in agriculture
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chala surprising ga undhi ee statement.Mana products ki export market unte endhuku export cheyaru? India is the largest exporter of Tobacco because mana tobacco ki bayata market undhi alane vere products ki market unte definite ga export chestharu. Export qualty stds meet ayye ye product ayina export chesthar..fact entante marginal farmers produce chesevi domestic market lo ne price palakadu alantappudu export ela chestahru?




Ayyo rama, mana products ki market leda? Okka tobacco basis aithe ela?

Food grains meeda ghoramina restrictions unnayi.

Mari sugar enduku import chestunnaru? Edible oil enduku?

AP paddy farmer cannot sell his product even outside of AP, forget about international markets. Rosayya gaaru mana rice baita ammanivvam ani statement icharu, kaani basta ki 1000Rs ye istaru. Amma pettadu, adukku thinanivvadu.
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IR bro...
India import policy chala complicated.We have import quota restrictions in place for commonly grown crops in india.Paddy,Legumes and other crops ni import chesukovalante import fees pagulthadi. Nuvvu annattu importng cheap ayithe mana merchants andaru China nunchi rice techi mana domestic market lo dump chestharu and that rice will be available at much cheaper price to consumer..




Bro, the reality is different from what you said. Video choodandi, facts along with dates explain chesaru.

Manam ippudu India lo vaade sugar import cheskunnade. Alage Palmolein is being imported. Rice dump cheyadanki restrictions emi levu, the only reason why it is not happening is probably coz we don't have demand for that kind of rice.

Ikkada problem enti ante,

1. Govt will not pay a higher price
2. It allows imports without any cess
3. It does not allow produce to be exported even if the godowns are overflowing.

Inflation control cheyadaniki manaki already public food distribution channels unnayi. Can't they even allow the excess to be exported?

Foreign grown product em tax lekunda kontara? Kaani mana farmer meeda restriction aa? Is the Govt working for the foreign farmer, or the Indian farmer?
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It does not allow the farmer to export its product.




chala surprising ga undhi ee statement.Mana products ki export market unte endhuku export cheyaru? India is the largest exporter of Tobacco because mana tobacco ki bayata market undhi alane vere products ki market unte definite ga export chestharu. Export qualty stds meet ayye ye product ayina export chesthar..fact entante marginal farmers produce chesevi domestic market lo ne price palakadu alantappudu export ela chestahru?
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We import rice without any cess, but pay only Rs1000 to the farmer.
We import cooking oil without any cess but fail to pay properly to the farmer.



IR bro...
India import policy chala complicated.We have import quota restrictions in place for commonly grown crops in india.Paddy,Legumes and other crops ni import chesukovalante import fees pagulthadi. Nuvvu annattu importng cheap ayithe mana merchants andaru China nunchi rice techi mana domestic market lo dump chestharu and that rice will be available at much cheaper price to consumer..
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Govt MSP intor chesindi market lo price fluctuations ki famrer nashtapovaddani..atuvantidi nuvvu Govt famers ni exploit chesthundi ante etlaa.Akkadiki manadi free market capitalist desam kuda kaadu.




Govt allows imports of food grains without any tax on them.

It does not allow the farmer to export its product.

It does not pay him good for his product.

Ila aithe farmer emavvali?

Paddy ki 1000Rs, ante 10Rs per Kg aa. Market lo entha undi?

Farmer ki free gaa raadu kada paddy. Production cost meeda minimum profit lekunda ela bathakali?
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the difference between the price of rice you pay in retail store vs the price paid to the farmer who produced it is the loss of farmer, not anyone else. the exploitation starts from millers and continues up to the FCI



retail price ki unpricessed paddy selling price ki link petti chusthe definite ga parity untadi annai.. you have to consider the fact that the product moves in diff channels when it reaches consumer..so definite ga producer levello and consumer levello diff untadi.

Govt MSP intor chesindi market lo price fluctuations ki famrer nashtapovaddani..atuvantidi nuvvu Govt famers ni exploit chesthundi ante etlaa.Akkadiki manadi free market capitalist desam kuda kaadu.
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mana desam lo nearly 75% of farmers are marginal farmers. Marginal farmers major problem - they lack capital to employ better practices in agriculutre.. and with that comes inferior products and inferior products generally have difficulty in finding markets.




Problem idi kaadu. We have too many restrictions on the farmer today.

A paddy farmer in AP cannot sell his product even outside the state. The Govt. will pay him only 1000Rs. And even for that they collect market cess. And guess who controls most of the markets, the market yard chairman, hench men of MLAs.

We have so much excess grain today that we do not have any place to store the new crop. The Govt. lets the excess grain rot, but will not allow for exports.

Instead, it allows import of sugar, oil, and even rice. WTF?
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Inko major problem desam lo especially agri sector lo - middle men corruption. Govt yetuvanti scheme pettina, farmers varaku half benefits velthayi endhukante migitha sagam benfits middle men thinestharu.

And other hidden issue is - there is a large disconnect between agriculture research stations and farmers in india.. this is due to inefficient extension departments.Unless these issues are addressed farmes especially who are marginal farmes continue to live in penury.
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aa matram anna chesthundi Govt..adi kuda lekapothe farmers life dhurbharam.


that is the biggest misconception propagated and believed even by those in govts. the difference between the price of rice you pay in retail store vs the price paid to the farmer who produced it is the loss of farmer, not anyone else. the exploitation starts from millers and continues up to the FCI
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Govts - irrespective of parties, have employed various schemes to make farmers, employ better practices kani chala varaku lack of education vallano leka disciplline lekano ee marginal farmers enukabadipothunnaru




What ever parties did was BS.

Otherwise why will a farmer still live on 15k per annum? A peon in a city earns better money, nothing against the peon here.

Govt is the number one enemy of the farmer today -

We import rice without any cess, but pay only Rs1000 to the farmer.
We import cooking oil without any cess but fail to pay properly to the farmer.

If you have time to go through the videos, it is clearly shown with facts, how fuc$ed up the Govts are when it comes to Agri.
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but i think it won't happen if the economy is left to artificial global capital oriented market forces


the difference between metals and food is that metals prices can be manipulated by expanding/contracting the supply of metals but they cannot do it with food as they cannot store food for long amounts of time. whenever we think that our farmers should be able to sell to the international market we shudder to the thought. why ? why should a software company or auto manufacturer or textile maker be able to sell to the highest bidder but when it comes to the farmer we want him to favor his country first. why cant he be the one that makes the most money and everybody else make their living from what he spends
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the govt buys all their extra produce and let it rot in godowns or redistribute it for cheap



aa matram anna chesthundi Govt..adi kuda lekapothe farmers life dhurbharam.

mana desam lo nearly 75% of farmers are marginal farmers. Marginal farmers major problem - they lack capital to employ better practices in agriculutre.. and with that comes inferior products and inferior products generally have difficulty in finding markets.

Govts - irrespective of parties, have employed various schemes to make farmers, employ better practices kani chala varaku lack of education vallano leka disciplline lekano ee marginal farmers enukabadipothunnaru.That said, some farmers get unlucky with all the uncertainities in nature.
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whistle bane undhi kani nenu cheppindhi adhi kaadhu. where is the free market for farmers ? they are not allowed to export. the govt buys all their extra produce and let it rot in godowns or redistribute it for cheap





there is difference netween internal free markets regulated by state and global free markets controlled by global forces.....in the later case farmer can be a looser also.....i was referring to global markets.....anyway your intention is also farmer is central to economy.....but i think it won't happen if the economy is left to artificial global capital oriented market forces
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the indian system is so fuxxed up. the most basic need of man is food. in perfect economy, the person who produces food will be in highest demand. the rest of the economy would depend on how prosperous the food producer is. if govt did not interfere, that is how the market would make it happen. mindless fxxkers decided and ignorantly formulated a system where farmer has to live on the spending of consumers


same is the case US or any economy for that matter... farming is not a lucrative career... and for that matter in US, farming is more commercialized... everything is like big farms -> they sell the produce to SYSCO kind of companies and then it goes to retailers...
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whistle bane undhi kani nenu cheppindhi adhi kaadhu.





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chala simple ga chepesav bro current economy manipulation ni the name of free markets and globalization


whistle bane undhi kani nenu cheppindhi adhi kaadhu. where is the free market for farmers ? they are not allowed to export. the govt buys all their extra produce and let it rot in godowns or redistribute it for cheap
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the indian system is so fuxxed up. the most basic need of man is food. in perfect economy, the person who produces food will be in highest demand. the rest of the economy would depend on how prosperous the food producer is. if govt did not interfere, that is how the market would make it happen. mindless fxxkers decided and ignorantly formulated a system where farmer has to live on the spending of consumers






chala simple ga chepesav bro current economy manipulation ni the name of free markets and globalization
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mastaru .. per month kaadu .. per annum adi .. !!!




annai 1 min time ivvakunda naa vente untav gaa.. j/k
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the indian system is so fuxxed up. the most basic need of man is food. in perfect economy, the person who produces food will be in highest demand. the rest of the economy would depend on how prosperous the food producer is. if govt did not interfere, that is how the market would make it happen. mindless fxxkers decided and ignorantly formulated a system where farmer has to live on the spending of consumers
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mastaru .. per month kaadu .. per annum adi .. !!!
Sumiran karle manvaa .. Shri Ram kaa .. sukh daam kaa ..
Shiv shankar ne jaap kiya tha .. do akshar ke naam kaa .. :-)
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Per month kaadu, per year, Mods plz correct it.
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The Indian Farmer does.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKSu84JPY3E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Rf3L7nvFMs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeNw2pWRSCU
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