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     Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 5451 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
are you talking about futures trading?.....don't you think prices are set by speculation in futures trading.....ain't big monster corporations buy and speculate futures.....Don't you think they have the capacity to manipulate regulators and decide on prices independent of supply and demand? | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 5450 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
i was complaining about future's trading...it's not direct commodity trading...it passes n number of hands and becomes an object of organised speculation just like stocks
this is illusion...actually consumers become slaves of market speculation....the recent realty crisis explains it
more unorganized markets then more the economy is decentralized and if parllely govt is also decentralized everything fall in their right place....ofcourse as i said state should be vigilant and take corrective steps at each level...this will prevent large scale exploitation by few faceless people, hidden hands or organizations | ||
| Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 126 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.45.60.104 Rating: N/A |
market pakka ga unte, it wont be in the hands of one or two people/groups.. it will be in many hands.. so okadu antha hoard chesukuni rates penchithe, he cannot survive because there are other suppliers who are selling it for less.. the hoarding thing happens only when all the suppliers group together, which will happen when there are only a few of them.. like when there is no stock exchange for all suppliers to put up their prices.. creating panic/etc.. that's human nature to panic when there is no credible information from anywhere.. when there's uncertainty.. this will be more so when there are no open markets.. what's your alternate system which will eradicate this behavior on the part of humans? The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
| Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 125 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.45.60.104 Rating: N/A |
weren't you complaining about commodity trading a few posts earlier? ... By the way, the more organized the markets are, the more efficient the pricing will be, resulting in more benefits for the consumers.. the more unorganized the markets are, the more opaque the markets become.. resulting in pricing inefficiencies.. black markets (India was an example) thrive in such circumstances.. you can think of stock markets as the places where entrepreneurs with bright ideas but little money, will get funding from people with lot of money, but no ideas on how to use that money.. of course, it's not a perfect system but let the perfect not be the enemy of the good.. The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 5449 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
currency is just a medium of exchange with a universal common value for everyone.....traditionally price rise of praticular commodity happens when demand is more than supply....but you can also create artificial demand by blackmarketing or by creating panic or spreading speculation about future gains or losses....when it happens a section is squeazing currency(universal common value) disproportionately | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 5448 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
what do they trade in stock market?.....not any commodity...they trade stocks with future expectation of rise or fall in value.....when i say minus stock markets what i mean is disorganised capitalism....a person is free to accumalate wealth with his individual capabilities but organised accumalation of capital through stock markets and using that wealth to monopolize and build huge monster organizations is what should be avoided.....here the state should take up the task of breaking tha back of organised greed periodically | ||
| Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 124 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.45.60.104 Rating: N/A |
I don't know about investing in commodities, but dollar is no longer backed by gold.. for that matter, no current currency is backed by anything except trust! that is the reason people are investing in actual physical gold.. and waiting for real estate to touch the bottom.. The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
| Ashton Side Hero Username: Ashton Post Number: 8478 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 66.90.104.94 Rating: N/A |
Yes, hyperinflation is on its way....I backed off from investing in several commodities as hyperinflation poses a serious threat to the dollar...I mean when dollar collapses, gold,silver will be worthless..as dollar is backed by gold. What do you think? | ||
| Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 123 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.45.60.104 Rating: N/A |
prices in terms of printed currency is always artificial bro.. it depends on our trust of Govts printing the currency.. as far as i understand, the current rally in gold has to do with govts printing currency like there's no tomorrow to stem the recession.. Investors are basically expecting a mega-inflation (in other words depreciation of currency because of all this printing) in the near future.. The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
| Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 122 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.45.60.104 Rating: N/A |
stock markets are places where buyers and sellers come to trade.. markets lekunda capitalism elano chebithe vinali undhi The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 5447 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
it's not pure speculation that's going on....in pure speculation you win or loss....it's more akin to institutional blackmarketing in the name of futures's trading....when this happens in the case of essential commodities people are forced to buy at artificial inflated rates as they cannot survive without these essential items | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 18916 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 68.45.29.251 Rating: N/A |
speculation is nothing wrong bro .. creating artificial scarcity, which actually is a bi-product of greed, is the wrong that makes the system fail .. so the malady called greed has to be treated and condemned .. not speculation as such .. naa drustilo .. speculating the demand/supply is a good thing, cause it gives a scope for planning and that is a good thing .. and for that matter not every body can speculate correctly .. Sumiran karle manvaa .. Shri Ram kaa .. sukh daam kaa .. Shiv shankar ne jaap kiya tha .. do akshar ke naam kaa ..  | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 5446 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
naavi communist ideas enti bro....the prices are no way related to demand & supply....they are based on spectulation in stock markets and the sad thing is they are doing this gambling with food and other essential commodities...there is no scarcity of food items in the world but these speculators atre creating artificial scarcity with inflated prices.....i am o.k with capitalism minus stock markets | ||
| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 2353 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 136.1.1.104 Rating: N/A |
vja brother, nuvvu alaa communist ideas tho vasthey, I cant comment...yes manaipulation is part of the game....and the small fish will be robbed by the whales every now and then..... adi prathi vishayam lo untundi..."chinna chepanu peda chepa, china maayanu pedda maaya..." tappadu.... ilaa outright condemn chesthey, u can condemn every part of society for its shortcomings.....and keep dreaming for that utopian society.....or talk like liberal idealists craving for acceptability through rhetoric forgetting the reality... I too consider these traders and big guys as crooks....but taking out the whole market may not be such a great idea.... | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 5445 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
gambling,cheating,speculation ki inko pere futures trading....Gold, silver prices are artificial....they are not based on real demand on the ground | ||
| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 2352 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 136.1.1.104 Rating: N/A |
ikkada kooda futures laagey trade avuthaayi brother commodities and indexes normally.........but then some of them have ETFs like SPY for S&P 500, SLV for silver and GLD for Gold.........and many many more... now these ETFs are almost as similar as stocks...no expiry and things like that....these ETFs track the index or commodity it is intended to.......so all the confusion, when you talk in terms of expiry and stuff... futures history chaduvu.....the original intent was to help farmers/businessman hedge their risk using futures......so futures is the main driver of trading...but the irony is, ETFs are more popular and normal people dunno futures...... hope I dint confuse you more.... | ||
| Dinu Junior Artist Username: Dinu Post Number: 876 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 122.175.89.45 Rating: N/A |
welcome bro.. i think u r 20% profit on your investment brother right?  Any Stocks, Commodity trading releated queries.. contact me kalyan at stock9am dot com | ||
| Secondcup Comedian Username: Secondcup Post Number: 1543 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.74.155.50 Rating: N/A |
Thanks Dinu. | ||
| Dinu Junior Artist Username: Dinu Post Number: 875 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 122.175.89.45 Rating: N/A |
brother already silver chaala highs lo vunnayi.. eppudu aina bearish trend ki ravacchu.. 25 touch avvudi anukunta.. 4$ profit lo vunnavu kada gud. i think better to book profits and exit and re enter at lowlevels Any Stocks, Commodity trading releated queries.. contact me kalyan at stock9am dot com | ||
| Dinu Junior Artist Username: Dinu Post Number: 874 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 122.175.89.45 Rating: N/A |
brother ikkada indian commodity markets lo.. commodities anni futures madire trade avuthaayi.. margin amount 30 times ala isthaaru.. every commodity ki expiry vuntundi.. expiry lopu positions inka hold chesukunte full amount katti delivery tesukovali.. or madhyalo aina delvery kavalante kuda tesukovacchu full amount katti.. Any Stocks, Commodity trading releated queries.. contact me kalyan at stock9am dot com | ||
| Dinu Junior Artist Username: Dinu Post Number: 872 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 122.175.89.45 Rating: N/A |
sure brother.. memu trading chesedi indian markets lo kada.. meeru trading chesedi US markets lo kada.. i know stocks ki expiriy vundadu ani brother ok repati nunchi mi andariki artham ayyelaaga points ni RS antaanu Any Stocks, Commodity trading releated queries.. contact me kalyan at stock9am dot com | ||
| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 2351 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 136.1.1.104 Rating: N/A |
Dinu brother, nee trading and profits anthaa baane undi....oka rendu moodu terms nerchuko brother....andariki baaga explain chesthaavu.... one thing, stocks ki expiry ani undadu....it is for futures or options....I am pretty sure you are talking about futures.....you can trade after market close too right?...if thats true, then you are trading futures...... second, nee points language maarchi, Rs lo maatlaadu bro......easy avutundi ardham chesukonu.. | ||
| Dinu Junior Artist Username: Dinu Post Number: 871 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 122.175.89.45 Rating: N/A |
bro.. jodha sister 1000$ padali ani monna eppudo annaaru.. 1000$ padali ante ippudu vunna price ki 26% padali ani nenu cheppa SLV ante silver aah? i mean US markets lo SLV symbol aah silver di? meeru ela buy chesaru? physical gaa na leka stocks aah? expiry eppudu? Any Stocks, Commodity trading releated queries.. contact me kalyan at stock9am dot com | ||
| Jodhaa Hero Username: Jodhaa Post Number: 13982 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.193.134.61 Rating: N/A |
ippudu maatram emanna kaali ga unnaye anukontunnara?  | ||
| Secondcup Comedian Username: Secondcup Post Number: 1542 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.74.155.50 Rating: N/A |
chelli..  .. good.. a price ki vaste..def ga e saari desam lo gold shops khaalega emi vundavu emo..security pechali anukuta shops ki..challa mandi e chance kosam waiting emo.. | ||
| Jodhaa Hero Username: Jodhaa Post Number: 13981 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.193.134.61 Rating: N/A |
yeah, thulam rondu thulaaluu ayethe chala lite..this time pedha motham lo koney plan undi... 15K??  | ||
| Secondcup Comedian Username: Secondcup Post Number: 1541 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.74.155.50 Rating: N/A |
idid ayye pani antava 26% down ante i don't think it will do that kind sudden drop ani nenu anukutunnau. since you are market person you might be having better konwledge. SLV konna 20.43 ki, e price varaku hold cheyyavachhu. I'm not in rush for quick bucks..long term ayuna I can hold..small amount..just try chesa first time ..TIA | ||
| Secondcup Comedian Username: Secondcup Post Number: 1540 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.74.155.50 Rating: N/A |
Ippudu 10gms 20kRS ani VJA lo ananru intlo. so nuvvu 10gms 17k ki wait chestunanvu.tappadu ante nuvvu save chesedi 3k ne kada. unless you are buying in big..good luck nenu set cheyyali ma amamai ki. | ||
| Dinu Junior Artist Username: Dinu Post Number: 868 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 122.175.89.45 Rating: N/A |
17k easy ga chestundi akka next week silver 37000 all time highs ni cross cheste inka  Any Stocks, Commodity trading releated queries.. contact me kalyan at stock9am dot com | ||
| Jodhaa Hero Username: Jodhaa Post Number: 13979 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.193.134.61 Rating: N/A |
lets say 17K ki down ayye, future lo inka further(at least for next 1.5years) fall lekapothey 17K is my target price..vice versa.. | ||
| Dinu Junior Artist Username: Dinu Post Number: 866 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 122.175.89.45 Rating: N/A |
below 1000$ ante currently trading around 1350$ nearly 26% drop avvali.. indian markets prakaram ante 14600 -15000 ravali.. Any Stocks, Commodity trading releated queries.. contact me kalyan at stock9am dot com | ||
| Dinu Junior Artist Username: Dinu Post Number: 865 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 122.175.89.45 Rating: N/A |
akka, diwali & chirstmas e year a gaa.. pongal next year.. Any Stocks, Commodity trading releated queries.. contact me kalyan at stock9am dot com | ||
| Secondcup Comedian Username: Secondcup Post Number: 1537 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.74.155.50 Rating: N/A |
 ne target price range emiti cehllemma.. | ||
| Jodhaa Hero Username: Jodhaa Post Number: 13976 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.193.134.61 Rating: N/A |
next year festivals kooda add cheyyamantaava? | ||
| Dinu Junior Artist Username: Dinu Post Number: 864 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 122.175.89.45 Rating: N/A |
sure sister.. diwali, christmas, pongal festival seasons ayyakane gold fall vuntundi.. Any Stocks, Commodity trading releated queries.. contact me kalyan at stock9am dot com | ||
| Jodhaa Hero Username: Jodhaa Post Number: 13973 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.193.134.61 Rating: N/A |
thammudu, very soon good news tho vasthaavu ani hope chesthunna..god bless u.. | ||
| Dinu Junior Artist Username: Dinu Post Number: 861 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 122.175.89.45 Rating: N/A |
Silver Day High Today 36760 -- 800 points UP Gold Day High Today 19780 --- 180 points UP  Any Stocks, Commodity trading releated queries.. contact me kalyan at stock9am dot com |
