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Masularex
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Anand_n:

Maularex,
This post just to keep this from going into archives.. And to see your questions - every discussion helps refine our own concepts and beliefs


no problem...we'll start a new thread. certain issues require time and carefull thought before you make a sound
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Maularex,
This post just to keep this from going into archives.. And to see your questions - every discussion helps refine our own concepts and beliefs :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Masularex:

it's hard...it might take time...going to ask few more questions...




:-) Sure but let me put a disclaimer :-) This is just how I put it together based on what I know - and it may be completely off the mark :-)

Have a busy weekend ahead - so hopefully Nisarga, MS or someone else will pitch in to keep the thread going :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Anand_n:

Masularex,
Yes - that is why time is relative not absolute I defined time as the gap between two observed events different observers in different fra
es of reference perceive it differently

Think of two scenarios - gap between two events in your waking state versus in your sleeping state -

When you are in the dream your perception of time between 2 events say 2 words in a sentence is the same as your perception of the gap in your waking state you do not hear dialogs in fast forward in your dream

However , if you observe from a waking frame of reference your dream takes far less time than the same two events in the waking state


trying to comprehend what you've said...it's hard...it might take time...going to ask few more questions...
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Masularex,
Yes - that is why time is relative not absolute :-) I defined time as the gap between two observed events :-) different observers in different fra
es of reference perceive it differently:-)

Think of two scenarios - gap between two events in your waking state versus in your sleeping state -

When you are in the dream your perception of time between 2 events say 2 words in a sentence is the same as your perception of the gap in your waking state :-) you do not hear dialogs in fast forward in your dream :-)

However , if you observe from a waking frame of reference your dream takes far less time than the same two events in the waking state:-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Anand_n:

we observe an event - it is a point. The next observable event is another point.Time is the distance between these two points.


what happens between these two points??? what brings the change??? it is clear that we don't notice it until next change...if there is a change, clearly that's done by an external force...then...then..that's mean when we were still...when our time stopped...or when we couldn't see any change...there were some external forces working...just to change some thing and to bring our consciousness back to us??? I am counfused... again please define time...
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Masularex:

Time is change��if you remove every change�there is no time lapsed. We can make time still by stopping any and every change. Please continue...




Agree.. we are saying the same thing :-)

Change to be perceived has to be an observable event.

To use an analogy - we observe an event - it is a point. The next observable event is another point. Time is the distance between these two points.

If there is no "change/event" there is no second point and distance is meaningless ...:-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Anand_n:

I think time is the gap perceived between any 2 observed events


Sorry for not mentioning it, I’ve an abstract idea and own concept about time… In my opinion “Time is change”…if you remove every change…there is no time lapsed. We can make time still by stopping any and every change. Please continue...
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Masularex:


Please share your thoughts and ideas....I am quite sure that, it is relavant to this thread...




I think time is the gap perceived between any 2 observed events :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Can some one tell me what is the defination of time??? if you see any theory... formula... concept..etc...there is a time factor in it....we can define any thing...mass, atom, acceleration, electricity..etc..but not time...I have a feeling that this will be the altimate quest of mankind's intellectual curiosity...knowing what exactly is the defination of time...

Please share your thoughts and ideas....I am quite sure that, it is relavant to this thread...
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Vjavasi:

he is a good speaker......baaga alavatu anukunta......universe ni weigh chesesadu anta




He does not have to weigh it :-) Manaki teliyakapote scientific community lo teliyadu anukovatam konchem stretch emo :-)

Telusukovali ani meeku interest unte google mass of the universe - there is tons of information on the net...

Start with reading this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable_universe#Mass
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Stig:

A Universe From Nothing !!


then where from that "nothing" came???
thanx stig for the link...watched first 15 mints...nothing new so far..most the concepts explained in Stephen Hawking books...
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Kamal:

ee sadaru CK Raju evaru annai ?? Stig kurrod meeku satire enduku vesadu?





intaku mundhu einestien relativity theory ni previous works nundi copy kottadu ani C.K.raju article okati post chesa......anduku
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Vjavasi:

tammudu....nenu baganae matladadu ani cheppa kadha......madhya lo religious people meedha comments enduku....btw i am not a c.k.raju fan...edho article raasadu interesting anipinchindhi postaa



ee sadaru CK Raju evaru annai ?? Stig kurrod meeku satire enduku vesadu?
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Vaney vaney prakasini, Bhajami Vindhya vaasini ..
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Vjavasi:

we know how many protons are there in universe


Is it even possible to calculate it theoretically? evariki ayina telisthe layman terms lo cheppandi...

Video inkaa choodaledu
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speaker tana talk lo we know how many protons are there in universe ani cheppadu naaku ippudu time ledhu detail ga cheppataniki ani...he bases his argument of dark matter or vaccume energy on this.....can anyone here has details on this number of proton calculation?...if so please share it
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Gandhiguevara:

kudirthe book kudaa chaduvu brother.


kashtam emo.. anne frank choosina next day or two lo Schindler's list choosa..
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Mrhyderabad:

heart touching/wrenching


kudirthe book kudaa chaduvu brother...nenu kudaa movie choosake book chadivaa...worth reading
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Gandhiguevara:

dairy of anne frank


movie choosaa... heart touching/wrenching
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Mental_sachinodu:

Nothing is still something, anipisthundhi.




Read this commentary on Brihadaranyaka Upanishad and see if you can find parallels with Krauss's lecture - I did , so just curious if you will :-)

http://www.swami-krishnananda.org/brdup/brhad_I-02.html
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
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Malli vesa ... control naa valla kaadu !! :D

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The Stig Says: Auto racing, Bullfighting and Mountain climbing are the only real sports ... all others are games. !!
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Anand_n:

Did you go in and vote 5 * to offset the single star votes on my posts ... ilanti petty actions dent kuda cheyyalevu




Yes !! :D

Meeru deter karu ani telusu .. Kaani mari mee post padithe chaalu single veyyadam chooste chala kopam vastundi ... anduke naa ego satisfaction kosam !! :D

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good interesting lecture. but to me Nothing is still something, anipisthundhi. I will listen to it again.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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Stig,
Did you go in and vote 5 * to offset the single star votes on my posts - emiledu sometime back you said you would anduke mimmalni adiganu :-)

Let me give you my take - if someone has nothing better to do than to vote singles irrespective of content I feel sorry for them. If it makes them feel good about themselves by doing so - cheyanivvandi -naku nashtam emiledu. I have a huge and strong ego - ilanti petty actions dent kuda cheyyalevu :-)

Don't waste your energy countering that :-)
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Stig:

Ide mana C.K Raju seppi unte wah waa wah waa anetollam ... lol !!




tammudu....nenu baganae matladadu ani cheppa kadha......madhya lo religious people meedha comments enduku....btw i am not a c.k.raju fan...edho article raasadu interesting anipinchindhi postaa
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Ide mana C.K Raju seppi unte wah waa wah waa anetollam ... lol !!

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atu tippi itu tippi chivariki vishayam ento clear cheppakunda manamu special time lo vunnamu.....manamu insignificant.....universe is weird.....anything is possible ani sollu cheppadu.....he is a good speaker......baaga alavatu anukunta......universe ni weigh chesesadu anta
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Anand_n:


Sure :-)
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Gandhiguevara:

complete cheyyalanukuntunna




Chesaka cheppandi - worth it ante chaduvutanu :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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Anand_n:

Did you read Freedom - nachinda?


good neighbours part okkati chadivaanu...Patty's autobiography start chesi aapesanu...oka 20 pages chadivuntaanu...times vaadu antha hadaavudi enduku chesaadu ani telsukovadanikaina complete cheyyalanukuntunna :D so far OK anipinchindhi
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Gandhiguevara:




Did you read Freedom - nachinda?

Of late, fiction kanna non-fiction ekkuva chaduvutunna ...

Never read Nietzsche so far, but picked up Thus Spake Zarathustra on the last trip to the bookstore -working my way thru it...thought-provoking read :-)
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Anand_n:

chala depressing ga untundi .


aaa book complete chesi last night Matrudevo bhava cinema choosnu...deadly combo :D
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Gandhiguevara:

...dairy of anne frank book chadivaraa




Yeah - a long time back ..chala depressing ga untundi ..
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
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Anand_n:


akka stupid question,sadive vuntaaru...dairy of anne frank book chadivaraa? ninna complete chesanu...raka rakaala feelings...
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Gandhiguevara:

1 hour soose opika ledhu essence cut sesi 10 min eedio pettu




LOL - 10 mins lo condense ayyedi kadu lendi - time unnappude chudandi - its worth the time :-) Repu mee alien dostlu to kuda intelligent ga matladochu
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Stig:

oopika unte choodandi !!


1 hour soose opika ledhu essence cut sesi 10 min eedio pettu
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Stig:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo&hd=1




That was really very well explained. He is a great speaker - as Dawkins said, the Woody Allen of Science :-)

Thank you for posting :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo&hd=1


Amazing lecture .... oopika unte choodandi !!

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The Stig Says: Auto racing, Bullfighting and Mountain climbing are the only real sports ... all others are games. !!

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