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Masularex
Junior Artist Username: Masularex
Post Number: 334 Registered: 05-2010 Posted From: 117.195.175.194
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 03:54 pm: |
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Anand_n:Maularex, This post just to keep this from going into archives.. And to see your questions - every discussion helps refine our own concepts and beliefs
no problem...we'll start a new thread. certain issues require time and carefull thought before you make a sound |
   
Anand_n
Side Hero Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 7973 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.174.176.93
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 11:36 am: |
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Maularex, This post just to keep this from going into archives.. And to see your questions - every discussion helps refine our own concepts and beliefs  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Anand_n
Side Hero Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 7972 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.174.176.93
Rating:  Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 06:35 pm: |
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Masularex:it's hard...it might take time...going to ask few more questions...
Sure but let me put a disclaimer This is just how I put it together based on what I know - and it may be completely off the mark Have a busy weekend ahead - so hopefully Nisarga, MS or someone else will pitch in to keep the thread going  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Masularex
Junior Artist Username: Masularex
Post Number: 331 Registered: 05-2010 Posted From: 117.195.167.184
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 05:51 pm: |
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Anand_n:Masularex, Yes - that is why time is relative not absolute I defined time as the gap between two observed events different observers in different fra es of reference perceive it differently Think of two scenarios - gap between two events in your waking state versus in your sleeping state - When you are in the dream your perception of time between 2 events say 2 words in a sentence is the same as your perception of the gap in your waking state you do not hear dialogs in fast forward in your dream However , if you observe from a waking frame of reference your dream takes far less time than the same two events in the waking state
trying to comprehend what you've said...it's hard...it might take time...going to ask few more questions... |
   
Anand_n
Side Hero Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 7971 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.174.176.93
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 05:16 pm: |
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Masularex, Yes - that is why time is relative not absolute I defined time as the gap between two observed events different observers in different fra es of reference perceive it differently Think of two scenarios - gap between two events in your waking state versus in your sleeping state - When you are in the dream your perception of time between 2 events say 2 words in a sentence is the same as your perception of the gap in your waking state you do not hear dialogs in fast forward in your dream However , if you observe from a waking frame of reference your dream takes far less time than the same two events in the waking state aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Masularex
Junior Artist Username: Masularex
Post Number: 326 Registered: 05-2010 Posted From: 117.195.167.184
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 03:23 pm: |
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Anand_n:we observe an event - it is a point. The next observable event is another point.Time is the distance between these two points.
what happens between these two points??? what brings the change??? it is clear that we don't notice it until next change...if there is a change, clearly that's done by an external force...then...then..that's mean when we were still...when our time stopped...or when we couldn't see any change...there were some external forces working...just to change some thing and to bring our consciousness back to us??? I am counfused... again please define time... |
   
Anand_n
Side Hero Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 7970 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 02:43 pm: |
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Masularex:Time is change��if you remove every change�there is no time lapsed. We can make time still by stopping any and every change. Please continue...
Agree.. we are saying the same thing Change to be perceived has to be an observable event. To use an analogy - we observe an event - it is a point. The next observable event is another point. Time is the distance between these two points. If there is no "change/event" there is no second point and distance is meaningless ... aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Masularex
Junior Artist Username: Masularex
Post Number: 324 Registered: 05-2010 Posted From: 117.195.178.61
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 02:19 pm: |
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Anand_n:I think time is the gap perceived between any 2 observed events
Sorry for not mentioning it, I’ve an abstract idea and own concept about time… In my opinion “Time is change”…if you remove every change…there is no time lapsed. We can make time still by stopping any and every change. Please continue... |
   
Anand_n
Side Hero Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 7969 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150
Rating:  Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 02:08 pm: |
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Masularex: Please share your thoughts and ideas....I am quite sure that, it is relavant to this thread...
I think time is the gap perceived between any 2 observed events  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Masularex
Junior Artist Username: Masularex
Post Number: 323 Registered: 05-2010 Posted From: 117.195.178.61
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 01:43 pm: |
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Can some one tell me what is the defination of time??? if you see any theory... formula... concept..etc...there is a time factor in it....we can define any thing...mass, atom, acceleration, electricity..etc..but not time...I have a feeling that this will be the altimate quest of mankind's intellectual curiosity...knowing what exactly is the defination of time... Please share your thoughts and ideas....I am quite sure that, it is relavant to this thread... |
   
Anand_n
Side Hero Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 7968 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150
Rating:  Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 01:20 pm: |
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Vjavasi:he is a good speaker......baaga alavatu anukunta......universe ni weigh chesesadu anta
He does not have to weigh it Manaki teliyakapote scientific community lo teliyadu anukovatam konchem stretch emo Telusukovali ani meeku interest unte google mass of the universe - there is tons of information on the net... Start with reading this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable_universe#Mass aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Masularex
Junior Artist Username: Masularex
Post Number: 322 Registered: 05-2010 Posted From: 117.195.178.61
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 01:17 pm: |
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Stig:A Universe From Nothing !!
then where from that "nothing" came??? thanx stig for the link...watched first 15 mints...nothing new so far..most the concepts explained in Stephen Hawking books... |
   
Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 5332 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 01:05 pm: |
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Kamal:ee sadaru CK Raju evaru annai ?? Stig kurrod meeku satire enduku vesadu?
intaku mundhu einestien relativity theory ni previous works nundi copy kottadu ani C.K.raju article okati post chesa......anduku |
   
Kamal
Hero Username: Kamal
Post Number: 18540 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 68.32.27.63
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 01:00 pm: |
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Vjavasi:tammudu....nenu baganae matladadu ani cheppa kadha......madhya lo religious people meedha comments enduku....btw i am not a c.k.raju fan...edho article raasadu interesting anipinchindhi postaa
ee sadaru CK Raju evaru annai ?? Stig kurrod meeku satire enduku vesadu? Nisumbha sumbha mardhini, prachanda munda khandini .. Vaney vaney prakasini, Bhajami Vindhya vaasini .. |
   
Mrhyderabad
Side Hero Username: Mrhyderabad
Post Number: 7802 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.120
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 12:59 pm: |
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Vjavasi:we know how many protons are there in universe
Is it even possible to calculate it theoretically? evariki ayina telisthe layman terms lo cheppandi... Video inkaa choodaledu If god doesn't like the way I live, let him tell me, not you |
   
Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 5331 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 12:49 pm: |
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speaker tana talk lo we know how many protons are there in universe ani cheppadu naaku ippudu time ledhu detail ga cheppataniki ani...he bases his argument of dark matter or vaccume energy on this.....can anyone here has details on this number of proton calculation?...if so please share it |
   
Mrhyderabad
Side Hero Username: Mrhyderabad
Post Number: 7801 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.120
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 12:38 pm: |
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Gandhiguevara:kudirthe book kudaa chaduvu brother.
kashtam emo.. anne frank choosina next day or two lo Schindler's list choosa..  If god doesn't like the way I live, let him tell me, not you |
   
Gandhiguevara
Hero Username: Gandhiguevara
Post Number: 11381 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 98.210.96.94
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 12:34 pm: |
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Mrhyderabad:heart touching/wrenching
kudirthe book kudaa chaduvu brother...nenu kudaa movie choosake book chadivaa...worth reading |
   
Mrhyderabad
Side Hero Username: Mrhyderabad
Post Number: 7800 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 167.230.38.120
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 12:31 pm: |
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Gandhiguevara:dairy of anne frank
movie choosaa... heart touching/wrenching If god doesn't like the way I live, let him tell me, not you |
   
Anand_n
Side Hero Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 7967 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 12:27 pm: |
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Mental_sachinodu:Nothing is still something, anipisthundhi.
Read this commentary on Brihadaranyaka Upanishad and see if you can find parallels with Krauss's lecture - I did , so just curious if you will http://www.swami-krishnananda.org/brdup/brhad_I-02.html aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Stig
Moderator Username: Stig
Post Number: 7433 Registered: 01-2010
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 12:23 pm: |
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Malli vesa ... control naa valla kaadu !!  -------- The Stig Says: Auto racing, Bullfighting and Mountain climbing are the only real sports ... all others are games. !! |
   
Stig
Moderator Username: Stig
Post Number: 7431 Registered: 01-2010
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 12:18 pm: |
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Anand_n:Did you go in and vote 5 * to offset the single star votes on my posts ... ilanti petty actions dent kuda cheyyalevu
Yes !! Meeru deter karu ani telusu .. Kaani mari mee post padithe chaalu single veyyadam chooste chala kopam vastundi ... anduke naa ego satisfaction kosam !!  -------- The Stig Says: Auto racing, Bullfighting and Mountain climbing are the only real sports ... all others are games. !! |
   
Mental_sachinodu
Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu
Post Number: 4468 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 12:13 pm: |
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good interesting lecture. but to me Nothing is still something, anipisthundhi. I will listen to it again. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
Anand_n
Side Hero Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 7966 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 166.205.13.47
Rating:  Votes: 5 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 12:09 pm: |
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Stig, Did you go in and vote 5 * to offset the single star votes on my posts - emiledu sometime back you said you would anduke mimmalni adiganu Let me give you my take - if someone has nothing better to do than to vote singles irrespective of content I feel sorry for them. If it makes them feel good about themselves by doing so - cheyanivvandi -naku nashtam emiledu. I have a huge and strong ego - ilanti petty actions dent kuda cheyyalevu Don't waste your energy countering that  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 5330 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 12:41 am: |
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Stig:Ide mana C.K Raju seppi unte wah waa wah waa anetollam ... lol !!
tammudu....nenu baganae matladadu ani cheppa kadha......madhya lo religious people meedha comments enduku....btw i am not a c.k.raju fan...edho article raasadu interesting anipinchindhi postaa |
   
Stig
Moderator Username: Stig
Post Number: 7417 Registered: 01-2010
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 12:28 am: |
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Ide mana C.K Raju seppi unte wah waa wah waa anetollam ... lol !! -------- The Stig Says: Auto racing, Bullfighting and Mountain climbing are the only real sports ... all others are games. !! |
   
Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 5329 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 12:24 am: |
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atu tippi itu tippi chivariki vishayam ento clear cheppakunda manamu special time lo vunnamu.....manamu insignificant.....universe is weird.....anything is possible ani sollu cheppadu.....he is a good speaker......baaga alavatu anukunta......universe ni weigh chesesadu anta |
   
Gandhiguevara
Hero Username: Gandhiguevara
Post Number: 11342 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 98.210.96.94
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 10:54 pm: |
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Anand_n:
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Anand_n
Side Hero Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 7965 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.174.176.93
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 10:30 pm: |
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Gandhiguevara:complete cheyyalanukuntunna
Chesaka cheppandi - worth it ante chaduvutanu  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Gandhiguevara
Hero Username: Gandhiguevara
Post Number: 11341 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 98.210.96.94
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 10:23 pm: |
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Anand_n:Did you read Freedom - nachinda?
good neighbours part okkati chadivaanu...Patty's autobiography start chesi aapesanu...oka 20 pages chadivuntaanu...times vaadu antha hadaavudi enduku chesaadu ani telsukovadanikaina complete cheyyalanukuntunna so far OK anipinchindhi |
   
Anand_n
Side Hero Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 7964 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.174.176.93
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 10:20 pm: |
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Gandhiguevara:
Did you read Freedom - nachinda? Of late, fiction kanna non-fiction ekkuva chaduvutunna ... Never read Nietzsche so far, but picked up Thus Spake Zarathustra on the last trip to the bookstore -working my way thru it...thought-provoking read  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Gandhiguevara
Hero Username: Gandhiguevara
Post Number: 11338 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 98.210.96.94
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 10:16 pm: |
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Anand_n:chala depressing ga untundi .
aaa book complete chesi last night Matrudevo bhava cinema choosnu...deadly combo  |
   
Anand_n
Side Hero Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 7963 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.174.176.93
Rating:  Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 10:13 pm: |
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Gandhiguevara:...dairy of anne frank book chadivaraa
Yeah - a long time back ..chala depressing ga untundi .. aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Gandhiguevara
Hero Username: Gandhiguevara
Post Number: 11336 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 98.210.96.94
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 10:12 pm: |
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Anand_n:
akka stupid question,sadive vuntaaru...dairy of anne frank book chadivaraa? ninna complete chesanu...raka rakaala feelings... |
   
Anand_n
Side Hero Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 7962 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.174.176.93
Rating:  Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 10:09 pm: |
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Gandhiguevara:1 hour soose opika ledhu essence cut sesi 10 min eedio pettu
LOL - 10 mins lo condense ayyedi kadu lendi - time unnappude chudandi - its worth the time Repu mee alien dostlu to kuda intelligent ga matladochu  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Gandhiguevara
Hero Username: Gandhiguevara
Post Number: 11332 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 98.210.96.94
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 10:04 pm: |
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Stig:oopika unte choodandi !!
1 hour soose opika ledhu essence cut sesi 10 min eedio pettu |
   
Anand_n
Side Hero Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 7961 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.174.176.93
Rating:  Votes: 4 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 10:00 pm: |
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Stig:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo&hd=1
That was really very well explained. He is a great speaker - as Dawkins said, the Woody Allen of Science Thank you for posting  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Stig
Moderator Username: Stig
Post Number: 7409 Registered: 01-2010
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 04:51 pm: |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo&hd=1 Amazing lecture .... oopika unte choodandi !! -------- The Stig Says: Auto racing, Bullfighting and Mountain climbing are the only real sports ... all others are games. !! |