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Zulu
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Post Number: 4048 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.181.197
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 12:33 am: |
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Indiarocks:The only difference is that it removes the Hindu Vs Muslim argument, by bringing in a third party.
Its never a hindu vs muslim argument. Its always muslim vs rest of the world argument. Sunnis dont consider shias as a "proper" version of islam is proven beyond doubt. It doesnt give a third dimension. Mr KCR tear down this wall! |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 5197 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 12:31 am: |
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Indiarocks:You only mention that Sunnis don't consider Shias as muslims.
Oh sorry it was Zulu. Political parties, at least now, please leave our RAM alone. TIA. |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 5196 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 12:29 am: |
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Zulu:From my limited understanding on this subject, she is trying to project him as an idiot, just an idoit and not a religious idiot, because he killed muslims(shia) also. The point is he is a religious idiot, because sunnis dont consider shias as muslims..they consider shiate's version as a corrupted version of islam.
The mention of Shias still makes Ghazni a religious idiot, but an idiot not only for Hindus, but also Shias. You only mention that Sunnis don't consider Shias as muslims. So being a religious idiot still holds. The only difference is that it removes the Hindu Vs Muslim argument, by bringing in a third party. Political parties, at least now, please leave our RAM alone. TIA. |
   
Kamal
Hero Username: Kamal
Post Number: 17617 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 12:23 am: |
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Zulu:either way, she is trying to down play the role of religion in the idiocracy of ghazini..
exactly my point .. thx for being direct and to the point .. Jai Sri Ram - Jai Hind  |
   
Kamal
Hero Username: Kamal
Post Number: 17616 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 12:22 am: |
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Indiarocks:To kill 2 is more barbaric than kill 1 kada. Alage to kill Hindus, and Shias is more barbaric than killing Hindus only, kaadaa? I did not get the diluting part anduke adugutunna.
two important points here .. 1) she brings in totally irrelevant information from not so reputed persian historians (not authentic really) to claim that 50,000 shi'ites are killed by mahmud of ghazni .. 2) even if we consider point 1 to be valid .. point 2 is .. w.r.t Hindus .. he was a demon who killed millions of Hindus .. just because they worshiped idols and they followed a different faith than his .. that ends the discussion .. if ghazni killing shias is of any problem to anybody .. it is for them to take care of .. because the reason why ghazni killed them was not religious .. but because they are more of feudalistic in nature than theological and religious .. Jai Sri Ram - Jai Hind  |
   
Zulu
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Post Number: 4047 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.181.197
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 12:17 am: |
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Indiarocks: ante Ghajini Shia's ni champaledantava? Naku teliyadu, anduke adugutunna. To kill 2 is more barbaric than kill 1 kada. Alage to kill Hindus, and Shias is more barbaric than killing Hindus only, kaadaa? I did not get the diluting part anduke adugutunna.
From my limited understanding on this subject, she is trying to project him as an idiot, just an idoit and not a religious idiot, because he killed muslims(shia) also. The point is he is a religious idiot, because sunnis dont consider shias as muslims..they consider shiate's version as a corrupted version of islam. either way, she is trying to down play the role of religion in the idiocracy of ghazini.. Mr KCR tear down this wall! |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 5195 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 12:09 am: |
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Kamal:nuvvu deniki navvutaavo neekaina telustunda??
adenti annai, nee kopam choosi navvochindi.
Kamal:he is trying to save him from being an example of an outright G-hadi to portraying him as an idiot who was only carrying out what was said in his book .. she diluted the charges against his barbarism .. by dragging in shia s and their persecution because they were more of the protestant kind of Islam .. denemma .. hypocrisy at its very very best ..
ante Ghajini Shia's ni champaledantava? Naku teliyadu, anduke adugutunna. To kill 2 is more barbaric than kill 1 kada. Alage to kill Hindus, and Shias is more barbaric than killing Hindus only, kaadaa? I did not get the diluting part anduke adugutunna. Political parties, at least now, please leave our RAM alone. TIA. |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 17615 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 12:09 am: |
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Romila Thapar: It would seem that when the temple was seen as a statement of power, it could become a target of attack, irrespective of religious affiliations.
siggu lenidi .. ela samardhistondo choodandi attack on Somnath ni .. shameless whor Jai Sri Ram - Jai Hind  |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 17614 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 12:04 am: |
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Indiarocks:
nuvvu deniki navvutaavo neekaina telustunda?? Indiarocks:If she says that Ghazini killed not only Hindus, but also Muslims, that makes him more evil, right?
she is trying to save him from being an example of an outright G-hadi to portraying him as an idiot who was only carrying out what was said in his book .. she diluted the charges against his barbarism .. by dragging in shia s and their persecution because they were more of the protestant kind of Islam .. denemma .. hypocrisy at its very very best .. ilanti pichi mundalu school pillalaki text books raasaru for the last 30+ years .. wantedly mis-informing kids of the original history .. alanti system ni wantedly install chesina bokulu manaki aaradhyulu .. vere thed lo annav choodu .. "may be enslaved our mentality" ani .. may be kaadu .. highest circles of administration nunche ee slave mentality infuse chesaru .. and what we have is bitxhes like Romila .. Jai Sri Ram - Jai Hind  |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 5194 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 11:53 pm: |
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Kamal:denemma .. she is even trying to absolve Ghazni of his sins saying .. he was a Sunni and he killed equal number of Shi'ites .. L mundaz .. does she even understand what kind of havoc did Islamic invasions bring to India and its largely peaceful and civilized people???
Kamal saaru chadavatam enduku, oogatam enduku? If she says that Ghazini killed not only Hindus, but also Muslims, that makes him more evil, right? Political parties, at least now, please leave our RAM alone. TIA. |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 17612 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 11:16 pm: |
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http://www.flonnet.com/fl1608/16081210.htm Romila Thapar on Somnath temple destruction by Mahmud Ghazni denemma .. she is even trying to absolve Ghazni of his sins saying .. he was a Sunni and he killed equal number of Shi'ites .. L mundaz .. does she even understand what kind of havoc did Islamic invasions bring to India and its largely peaceful and civilized people??? My hate for Romila grew even more now after this hateful article against Hindus .. alanti L munda raasina books ni .. history nii .. 3-4 decades ga India lo pillalu chaduvukuntunnaru ante .. thu .. mana antha spineless people leru .. Jai Sri Ram - Jai Hind  |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 17609 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 10:10 pm: |
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Ishan:adi chaala years kinda bro, now a days chala options unnayi...gazeteer of india baaguntundi.
adii pakkana pedithe .. school kids across India, ki ee roju ki kuda chadivinchedi Romila written bullshit ee .. mokkalone vanchestunnaru .. maanulu ga vankara ga undaka emavutaaru .. brain washing at a young age .. Jai Sri Ram - Jai Hind  |
   
Ishan
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Post Number: 5801 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.236.48
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 10:02 pm: |
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Telugu_times:Civil Services ki...Most history books prescribed by UPSC are....written by Romila medam
adi chaala years kinda bro, now a days chala options unnayi...gazeteer of india baaguntundi. "Take up one idea. Make that one idea your life - think of it, dream of it, live on that idea. Let the brain, muscles, nerves, every part of your body, be full of that idea, and just leave every other idea alone. This is the way to success." - Complete works of Swami Vivekananda (Vol 1, Chap 6) |
   
Indiarocks
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Post Number: 5193 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 09:59 pm: |
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super chepparu PVNR gaaru.
Vjavasi:
Motham chadavaleda enti? Reflecting how the BJP’s “pseudo religious movement” could not have sustained itself on a purely religious plane, Rao said it needed a political reaction to flourish. “I cannot escape the uneasy feeling that we Congressmen (while in the Congress) supplied it with just that….” He also suggested the shilanyas Rajiv Gandhi had allowed took place on “disputed” land, citing several government records and statements. Since becoming Prime Minister in 1991 till August 1992, Rao was in constant touch with the RSS leadership to attempt to resolve the Ayodhya dispute amicably. Party leaders like V.N. Gadgil and Vasant Sathe acted as his emissaries. Rao also sought the help of apolitical seers, such as Jain Muni Acharya Sushil and his spiritual guru based at Ramtek in Maharashtra, to prevail upon the Sangh parivar to work out a solution. After the Babri demolition, Rao became disillusioned and wrote with an air of dejection that while the Kalyan Singh government and the BJP were largely responsible for the “wanton vandalism”, his Congress colleagues in the ministry, too, had been guided by “political and vote-earning” considerations. “They had already made up their mind that one person had to be made historically responsible for the tragedy…. They got a stick to beat me with. I understood it.” Political parties, at least now, please leave our RAM alone. TIA. |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 17608 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 09:47 pm: |
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Vjavasi:http://www.telegraphindia.com/1101004/jsp/nation/story_13015 213.jsp
super article .. Ayodhya issue or the larger issue of Hindutva for India .. only prove one thing .. Congress always finds the floor slippery when it comes to Hindutva or its issues .. and frankly .. PVNR is the only one who could identify it .. I do not know if he did it prior to Dec 6, 1992 .. but he certainly did it in his book with the name of that D-day .. Jai Sri Ram - Jai Hind  |
   
Vjavasi
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Post Number: 5093 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 09:29 pm: |
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The role of congress since 1949.....when a deputy commissioner refused to follow nehru orders http://www.telegraphindia.com/1101004/jsp/nation/story_13015 213.jsp |
   
Telugu_times
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Post Number: 19138 Registered: 02-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 09:23 pm: |
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Civil Services ki...Most history books prescribed by UPSC are....written by Romila medam |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 17605 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 09:20 pm: |
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Vjavasi:
a link to .. Romila Thapar's displeasure on the Ayodhya verdict .. http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/article807232.ece for starters, Romila is an "eminent historian" who wrote the history books of India for the last 30+ years .. blunting the historical fights between Hindus and Muslims in India .. invasions of Islamic armies on India and religious persecution carried out in the name of G-had and crusades (Goa and Nagaland stand testimony to these) .. all in the name of protecting secular ethos .. Jai Sri Ram - Jai Hind  |
   
Vjavasi
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Post Number: 5092 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 09:07 pm: |
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http://koenraadelst.blogspot.com/2010/10/eminent-historian-d ispleased-with.html
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