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     Zulu Side Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 4042 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.181.197 Rating: N/A |
 Mr KCR tear down this wall!  | ||
| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 2291 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.229.92.178 Rating: N/A |
one more thing, see if my ID "ppl suck" makes any sense in the context of these systems.....as long as a there is greed/fear, we have to live with powerful/powerless.... I am done....nee local politics pakkana petti think chesi cheppu... bye bye now | ||
| Guttonkay Side Hero Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 6981 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 148.87.19.222 Rating: N/A |
Interesting. This link says that dude wasn't even in India before Feb, 1835 http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=296771 Dated? Yes. Unoriginal? Yes. Completely played out? Yes. Obligatory? Yes. | ||
| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 2290 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.229.92.178 Rating: N/A |
BTW, local gaa challapalli raja vaari vumpudu gatthey example pattukochchi adey lokam ani 95% ki apply chesindi nuvvu...... If any, india ni ••••• mundani vaadukunnattu vaadukundi british vaallu....that too at gun point......aa point elaa miss ayyaavu? | ||
| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 2289 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.229.92.178 Rating: N/A |
Gagu, endi nee lolli madhyalo? N_U, previously it used to be explicit in every society...and these days it is implicit.....but it is always hierarchical....we can always discuss the tweaks that will not allow the powerful/rich not rob the disadvantaged/poor...... but I doubt there is any ideal system in the world.....I understand you don't like Brahminism.........as much as you try, it can't be eradicated.....actors change.....today's powerul cud be tomorrows beggars and vice-versa......few cosmetic changes/tweaks here and there to the practices.....technological/industrial developments might confer a few more comforts to the people at large.... but but but the structure is always in place.....either explicit or implicit......one way to escape this for people is to stop their progeny.....otherwise NO ESCAPE from the concept though.... oka pani cheyyi...."Hyper Tiger Wisdoms" ani google search kottu.....read his rants..........and may be you will understand... | ||
| Gandhiguevara Hero Username: Gandhiguevara Post Number: 10658 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 98.210.96.94 Rating: N/A |
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| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 2288 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.229.92.178 Rating: N/A |
how is it different then and now? therez always few people at the top and a lot of the working class....and some will be marginalized........ and that too this is by your extrapolation...not real facts/statistics.....I understand there were customs of untouchability.......other than that, it is still few people are rich and others are working... you know the 80-20 rule right......check it out....that can be applicable to any society or any society will be tending towards it.... once again british vaallu 95% ki emi nerpinchaaru?...how did it make any difference to the society?? oorikey, politicians laagaa gundelu baadesukuni, ayyo SC/ST ayyo SC/ST ani kaakundaa, nee 95% statement ni explain cheyyi if paazibul... BTW, an upper caste guy working in sulabh complex is not that welcome in any rich house........I doubt any rich/wealthy guys will give him a red carpet welcome even in today's world.... few cosmetic changes tappithey world is always the same.... | ||
| Chiru_fan Hero Username: Chiru_fan Post Number: 13860 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 108.12.164.245 Rating: N/A |
NU mama, ippudunna laanto PANDIKOKKU politicians appatloo ee range loo leru... ee lambdikodukulu India ni British & Tulaks kanna yekkuva dosaar gatha 50+ years loo! adhi matter! CHIRU - SACHIN - FEDERER | ||
| New_user Hero Username: New_user Post Number: 12770 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.17.154.247 Rating: N/A |
Pplsuck Suburbs lo thirigi, ide real america anukunnatte untundi. Elite areas lo thirigi untadu. Samajaniki dooram ga brathike SC STs areas lo thirigithe thelisi undedi. Independence vachchina 50 years ki, intha stringent laws chesina tharavathe ila undante, appudela undedo, oohinchukovadam kastam kadu. | ||
| Telangana_gulti Junior Artist Username: Telangana_gulti Post Number: 70 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 24.130.52.182 Rating: N/A |
     Chaddigaanlu r worlds biggest bussugaanlu They want to kick out English and drive Hindi/Sanskrit into our asses | ||
| Zulu Side Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 4036 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.181.197 Rating: N/A |
jalsa lo gootle dialouge gurthu thechav..information gurinchi nenu adi post chesthey..adi vodilesi vadi opinion, which is subjective pattukuni peekuladuthunnav. Mr KCR tear down this wall! | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 17554 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
Oh lord! what a blessing Macaulay was! Hail the Queen! Jai Sri Ram - Jai Hind  | ||
| Zulu Side Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 4035 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.181.197 Rating: N/A |
It is a general misconception that this is a part of Lord McCauley's speech to British Parliament because Lord McCauley arrived in India on 10th June 1834 and returned to England in early 1838. If in 1835 he was in India then how could he have delivered a speech in the British Parliament. Let me also add that he arrived in India by a 3 month long journey by ship so there is no chance that the Lord made a quick visit to England (British Airways did not exist at that time) for delivering this speech.} Mr KCR tear down this wall! | ||
| Zulu Side Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 4034 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.181.197 Rating: N/A |
Eluri_kurradu, Agenda kadu information mukhyam, I am just trying to this the quote is right or wrong. Franky, I would be really..really really..surprised if the quote is infact right. Nation building on the basis of a lie is wrong kada..adanna maata. btw, der kurrod atleast quoted this 10 times in various discussions. gappudu nenu kooda nijamenemo..anukunna, damn..i should have googled..google maatha jindabad. anyways..One more source claiming the quote is wrong : http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=296771\quoteauthor Mr KCR tear down this wall! | ||
| Eluri_kurradu Hero Username: Eluri_kurradu Post Number: 10884 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.21.220.90 Rating: N/A |
endukeha old stories tavvukodam nenu inkola alochistunna brit valla badulu e spain / Portuguese valla kinda padi unte motham andaram daaveedu tanaya hosanna ani padukuntu anandam ga undevallam . oka range lo dochukuni south american countries rangelo vadilesavaru .. hispanics lo kalsipoyye vallam anukunta Ee roju puttina roju jarupukuntunna vallaki janma dina subhakankshalu Pelli roju variki pelliroju subha kankshalu .. | ||
| Telangana_gulti Junior Artist Username: Telangana_gulti Post Number: 68 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 24.130.52.182 Rating: N/A |
Chaddigaanlu r worlds biggest bussugaanlu They want to kick out English and drive Hindi/Sanskrit into our asses | ||
| Zulu Side Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 4033 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.181.197 Rating: N/A |
naaku ulterior motives petti kukka dobbul ettakunda..E quote validity ni prove chese articles emaina unte..ettandi. honestly, to me it looked too good to be true to begin with. Mr KCR tear down this wall! | ||
| Zulu Side Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 4032 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.181.197 Rating: N/A |
I researched a little bit on this quote and this is what i found, there are many sources on the web that says that this quote is fake. and is the creation of Hindu Nationalists. This is by far..is the most detailed Lord Macaulay's Quote on India A friend has recently forwarded me a quote from Lord Macaulay's speech in the British Parliament on 2nd February 1835. I reproduce the quote below: "I have traveled across the length and breadth of India and I have not seen one person who is a beggar, who is a thief. Such wealth I have seen in this country, such high moral values, people of such calibre, that I do not think we would ever conquer this country, unless we break the very backbone of this nation, which is her spiritual and cultural heritage, and, therefore, I propose that we replace her old and ancient education system, her culture, for if the Indians think that all that is foreign and English is good and greater than their own, they will lose their self-esteem, their native self-culture and they will become what we want them, a truly dominated nation." The email requested me to forward me to every indian I know. I was tempted, but there were two oddities about this quote. First, the language, which appeared too modern. Second, this was far too obvious and too cynical for Macaulay, who was an apologist of the empire, and believed in its high moral purpose. The quote was obviously a fraud. I was, however, tempted to check the source of this quote [I take this blog seriously!]. I found this useful article on http://koenraadelst.bharatvani.org/articles/hinduism/macaula y.html. The article basically says that there is no authoritative source for this quote, except Hindu Nationalist magazines and sources, though this is widely circulated and believed. The author also claims that it is unlikely that such a speech was made, as Macaulay would have been in India on that date. Then I found more information on Macaulay's speech in http://books.google.com/books?id=0kSMosMLUMwC&pg=PA169&lpg=P A169&dq=lord+macaulay+2nd+february+1835+india&source=web&ots =wmjOO95mYR&sig=Q6U0FlzLCJH3Tl21qCOIqva-oy8#PPA174,M1 which told me that Macaulay addressed the parliament on about Indian education. [The date was 10th July 1833] This speech is usually referred together with his famous Minutes on Indian Education, which was indeed dated 2nd February 1835 where he was arguing in favour of using English as the medium of education in India, and made his oft-quoted comment that 'a single shelf of good european library was worth the whole native literature of India and Arabia'. However, what is overlooked, rather conveniently, is this comment contained the same document: Are we to keep the people of India ignorant in order that we may keep them submissive? Or do we think that we can give them knowledge without awakening ambition? Or do we mean to awaken ambition and to provide it with no legitimate vent? Who will answer any of these questions in the affirmative? Yet one of them must be answered in the affirmative, by every person who maintains that we ought permanently to exclude the natives from high office. I have no fears. The path of duty is plain before us: and it is also the path of wisdom, of national prosperity, of national honor.[http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/1833macaulay-india.html] Clearly, Macaulay was saying something directly opposite to what has been quoted as his! There is indeed a clear reason why this distorted quote was invented. This is indeed RSS and its followers, who put words on Macaulay. I now know RSS even referred to English speaking Indians as 'Children of Macaulay'! The quote above, passed on by my trusting friend, is a spoof, RSS trying to interpret what Macaulay might have meant. [I am sure those who did it knew that Macaulay also put Arabic on the same boat as Sanksrit] http://casi.ssc.upenn.edu/india/iit_Prasad2.htm contains another excellent article, which drew my attention to another of famous Macaulay quotes, contained in his Minutes on Education - We must at present do our best to form a class who may be interpreters between us and the millions whom we govern; a class of persons, Indian in blood and colour, but English in taste, in opinions, in morals, and in intellect. However, this article also attempts to explain why Macaulay is such a hate figure among the Hindu nationalists. India is one of those countries with a great past and a promising future - and a present made up of unending conflicts between the two. No wonder Lord Macaulay has been invoked again, by email! And, no wonder it is a spoof, suiting some political Indian's view of the world. However, the colonialist that he was, India can thank Lord Macaulay for its modernity. He scripted the Indian Penal Code. He made no convenient adjustment to local religions. He wanted to build an education system secular and scientific, free of age-old prejudices and at par with the Western world. While his comment on Indian and Arabian literature was certainly ignorant, he played his part in building the modern India we are all so proud of. Mr KCR tear down this wall! | ||
| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 2281 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.229.92.178 Rating: N/A |
Is this authentic brother?....may be not...I can't find any references..... But still the question remains.....if India is such a poor country, why would so many find ways to travel and conquer India?...how come its GDP was the highest in the world during those centuries? may be its not as bad as it is projected anukovachchugaaa... | ||
| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 2280 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.229.92.178 Rating: N/A |
N_U, ee british vaallaki bhajana chesey avasaram ento naakardham kaavatledu......deeni background ento cheppi punyam kattuko....I can understand if you are like Brother Anil kumar and some agenda..... neeku ilaa nee ancestors ni disgrace chesi maatlaadey avasaram enti?....still cant get it... | ||
| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 2279 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.229.92.178 Rating: N/A |
N_U, KD ki british vaallu 95% indians ki thinking nerpinchi, bathukullo velugu nimpaaro cheppu... | ||
| Chiru_fan Hero Username: Chiru_fan Post Number: 13841 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 108.12.164.245 Rating: N/A |
aa time loo akkadakkada luccha leader gallu vundi vuntaaru...ippudu akkadakkada manchi vallu vunnar...migithaa antha luccha galle.. may be Congress ni chaalaa encourage chesindi anukuntaa British govt. appatloo...so that mana country yeppudoo third world country gaanee vundaali ani! CHIRU - SACHIN - FEDERER | ||
| Chiru_fan Hero Username: Chiru_fan Post Number: 13840 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 108.12.164.245 Rating: N/A |
 CHIRU - SACHIN - FEDERER | ||
| Kdnumber1 Side Hero Username: Kdnumber1 Post Number: 6469 Registered: 02-2009 Posted From: 68.32.178.244 Rating: N/A |
http://www.grinshare.com/img/KMC0PA.jpg Jagratta ga saduvundri....britishollu raakapote manaku english raaka chinies laaga vundevallam ani gola chese PoshGallu.... mana Vyvasta ni UK vallu etta nasanam chesaro e letter chusi telusukondi |
