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Life_sucks
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Post Number: 2275 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 148.168.40.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 04:59 pm: |
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>>Why Mughals and British spared Tirumala? nanchari vundhi kabatti. |
   
Mental_sachinodu
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Post Number: 4422 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 04:57 pm: |
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Kamal:enduku chesukovaddu .. interesting twist endi comedy ga? Hindustan lo Hindus ga bathakadaaniki jiziya lu .. twist lu (abaddalu) aadala? chass .. edo oka roju kodukulu feel avutaaru .. yes .. I am saying thhttp://www.chalanachithram.com/discus/icons/quote3.gifat ..
andhuke blood boiling thagginchuko mantunnadhi... interesting twist undhi ani ninnu cool avvamanaledhu, renditiki relation ledhu. btw, endhuku interesting anaanu ante, aa roju jiziya ani start chesindhi, ippatiki kaduthunaaru, even though we are not under muslim rule ani.
Vijay77:Ee tulaks madhyalo Sri Ram temple kattinchadante, Ramadas magaadra bujji. Eeyanaki intha dhairyam ela vachindo.
yep. not to take away anything from Ramadas, but the ruler is abul hasan qutub shah(he is the son of abdullah qutub shah, who tried to demolish tirumala). abul hasan was reknowned to be more friendly towards hindus. not just Ramadas, Madanna-Akanna were the top most ministers in his regime. it is said that apart from the name, entire kingdom was ruled by these two brothers. Madanna-Akanna temple(Kali temple) was infact built inside Golconda fort, under this regime. idhi sooince KCR and ko, dappu koduthuntaru muslim rule was better ani the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
Vijay77
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Post Number: 480 Registered: 06-2010 Posted From: 199.41.197.24
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 04:35 pm: |
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Ee tulaks madhyalo Sri Ram temple kattinchadante, Ramadas magaadra bujji. Eeyanaki intha dhairyam ela vachindo. |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 17210 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 04:32 pm: |
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Mental_sachinodu:oorike blood boiling chesukoku..
enduku chesukovaddu .. interesting twist endi comedy ga? Hindustan lo Hindus ga bathakadaaniki jiziya lu .. twist lu (abaddalu) aadala? chass .. edo oka roju kodukulu feel avutaaru .. yes .. I am saying that .. Jai Sri Ram - Jai Hind  |
   
Cocanada
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Post Number: 26693 Registered: 01-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 03:53 pm: |
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Mental_sachinodu:
MS annai
 Thana sekrame thana satruvu |
   
Mental_sachinodu
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Post Number: 4421 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 03:41 pm: |
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Kamal:
kamalai, oorike blood boiling chesukoku.. there is an interesting twist of this diplomatic effort by the priests of those days. it seems, the priests could carry out the deal with the qutub shahi forces, but twisting the story of venkatesa-kubera episode. it seems they were able to stop the agressors by saying that the lord Venkatesa, promised to repay Kubera by paying the rulers of area, by the offers of devotees. it seems the same bond was carried over to the modern AP, and TTD is still paying AP government. idhi entha varaku nijamo naaku thelidhu, but I read about it in atleast three different sources. It seems TTD library still has this bond intact. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 17199 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 03:26 pm: |
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Sarkaar:Above article lo eppudo poyyayi rayal vari naghalu antunnaru.
bongemi kaadu .. Rayala vaari nagalu .. last 60 years lo chaala poyayi .. pre independence .. britishodu kuda cheyyi pettadaniki venukaadina Tirumala, swatantram taravata brashtu pattesindi .. under TTD .. Mental_sachinodu: The lore is that muslim invaders stopped at the foot hills of tirumala seeing the varaha murthy idol. they camped in chandragiri area to attack the shrine on the mountain from the chandragiri forest side. it is during this time, the priests and locals struck a deal with the sultan, that they would be paying jiziya, if they leave the area to the locals, without disturbing. the amount that was agreed upon was supposed to pretty exorbitant.
MS .. naa blood boil sestunnaav .. kathi ko kanda ga narakaali kodukulani ani undii .. mana desam lo manam jiziya kattukunnam oka roju .. ippudu vaallake special reservations ichukuntunnam .. lucha gaallam manam .. thu .. siggu, seram, cheemu, nethuru .. ye kosaana levu .. Jai Sri Ram - Jai Hind  |
   
Mental_sachinodu
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Post Number: 4420 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 02:50 pm: |
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the moghals did not reach that far as far as I know. Abdullah Qutub Shah, the ruler of Golcanda, during the later parts of 1600, did attack Tirpuathi region. I feel most of this history during these times has been lost, as they were pretty turbulent times. There is some literature that was recovered much later.A vaishnavite poet's writings called Venkatachala Varaha Satakam, covers in some detail of the muslim invasion of tirupathi region. Apparently, the poet was distraught that it was a matter of time for the muslim invaders to reach the top of the hills, as they have already desecrated the temples of lower tirupathi. In the satakam, he pleads and insults his lord, that he is allowing such atrocities to happen to his followers. The lore is that muslim invaders stopped at the foot hills of tirumala seeing the varaha murthy idol. they camped in chandragiri area to attack the shrine on the mountain from the chandragiri forest side. it is during this time, the priests and locals struck a deal with the sultan, that they would be paying jiziya, if they leave the area to the locals, without disturbing. the amount that was agreed upon was supposed to pretty exorbitant. Also, there is another folklore, that the name alipiri is actually ali-phiri, a place where ali(the leader of the army leading the conquest) supposedly to have returned back. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
Sarkaar
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Post Number: 44 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 205.203.130.22
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 02:50 pm: |
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Ganjibenzi:as per the following article: http://www.andhrajyothy.com/mainnewsshow.asp?qry=2010/sep/27 /main/27main1&more=2010/sep/27/main/main&date=9/27/2010 Mughals are aware of the temple still spared it. May be because Venkanna did not have enough money those days.
Above article lo eppudo poyyayi rayal vari naghalu antunnaru. Kani chiranjeevi and chandra babu monna enduku pada yatra chesaru. swami karyam tho patu swakaryam kalisi vasthayyi ana ?? Leka auditing lo YSR govt ni kummedhamana devudi peru medha? |
   
Ravino786
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Post Number: 12526 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 199.4.21.2
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 01:59 pm: |
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dattamina adavi and its very hard to reach and destroy..aa time and energy were chota spend chesthe can destroy and loot more ani anukoni untaru .... Rajanna Amar Hai.
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Andhrawala
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Post Number: 3577 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 192.58.204.226
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 01:55 pm: |
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Bahusaa Tirmala temple ni attack sedhaamu anukunnaa Muslim ruler might have had premature death after which no other muslim ruler tried to do it.. |
   
Cinejeevi
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Post Number: 69 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 91.103.41.50
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 01:36 pm: |
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at some point of time they closed Tirumala Temple with walls outside as if it looked like tulaks's place ani ekkado chadivaa. T batch daarunalu anni inni kaadu. okka SICKlarist batch ki matuku vaalla chestalu kanapadav. |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 17164 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 10:59 pm: |
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Mamamiya786: kamal maama ...afghan histroy emanna telusa ? Heared it was hindu countyr ..once.. do yo know when ?
afghan ante .. mana mahabharatam time nunchi .. ~700 AD varaku .. "Gandhar" kingdom .. as usual .. Islamic conquests lo odipoyina country .. Hindukush mountains .. ante millions of Hindus/Sanatana Dharmis ni champi .. aa mountains meeda padesthe vachindi aa peru .. read more .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Afghanistan Jai Sri Ram - Jai Hind  |
   
Mamamiya786
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Post Number: 5592 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 74.190.118.212
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 10:45 pm: |
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Kamal: aa time lo kuda ..
kamal maama ...afghan histroy emanna telusa ? Heared it was hindu countyr ..once.. do yo know when ? Chidl Marriage Bhruna Hatya tho samanam -- vinoba bhave. |
   
Katthi
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Post Number: 424 Registered: 07-2010 Posted From: 24.218.29.119
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 09:51 pm: |
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Ganjibenzi:
Madras was in moghal rule.. map lo chuste. .konchem across undi map.. i am sure somewhere ekkado nenu chadivanu.. Tirupathi was not in moghal rule.. kani dravidan king ruling that area had pay tarriff to moghal kings Katthi.. Anthe Katthi ante katthi.
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Ganjibenzi
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Post Number: 152 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 98.167.233.85
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 09:48 pm: |
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Katthi:sampakandi eshe.. Moghals rule Tirupathi area lo ledu.. it was not in muslim control.. as far as i know.. Down south lo antha.. dravidian kings rule chesharu.. if you take old moghals map.. only up to karnataka and kurnool nellor varaku unde.. other kings has to pay some tarrif ..anthe.. they were not under moghals ruling
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Katthi
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Post Number: 423 Registered: 07-2010 Posted From: 24.218.29.119
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 09:45 pm: |
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sampakandi eshe.. Moghals rule Tirupathi area lo ledu.. it was not in muslim control.. as far as i know.. Down south lo antha.. dravidian kings rule chesharu.. if you take old moghals map.. only up to karnataka and kurnool nellor varaku unde.. other kings has to pay some tarrif ..anthe.. they were not under moghals ruling Katthi.. Anthe Katthi ante katthi.
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Ganjibenzi
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Post Number: 150 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 98.167.233.85
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 09:40 pm: |
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Kamal:they did not .. only that they were very very weak in India by then .. aa time lo kuda .. Afghan/Pak/Bangladesh lo .. thousands of temples koolchesaru .. because muslims were still strong there ..
Makes sense. Venkanna... Turks ni kuda tappinchukogaligaavu kani.. batch nunchi tappinchukoleka payaavu. who knows?... may be he did. May be it would have been much worse if batch ruling were to be continued. Visit FaceBook at http://www.facebook.com/PrajaRajyam |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 17159 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 09:39 pm: |
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Vjavasi:Indiarocks kurrod di jaali gunde...konchem chedu nijalni jeerninchukoledu.....positive thinking ekkuva....Gandhi type idealistic....
annai peru Krishna Bhagawan aa? practical world ni enduku choodaleru Gandhians? aa peaceful utopia gurinchi enduku day-dreamiing chestaru .. Jai Sri Ram - Jai Hind  |
   
Zulu
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Post Number: 4007 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.181.197
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 09:38 pm: |
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Vjavasi:positive thinking ekkuva....
venky lo krishnabhagavan gurthochadu..nuvvu chetho thiney babu Mr KCR tear down this wall! |
   
Abhysg
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Post Number: 3707 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 71.127.225.246
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 09:37 pm: |
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mughals south varaku rale. MH/Golkonda varake.. south motham chota muslim nawab or tamil kings under anukonta |
   
Vjavasi
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Post Number: 4972 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 09:36 pm: |
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Zulu:neeku Indiarocks kurrod chesthilo ithadey..LOL
Indiarocks kurrod di jaali gunde...konchem chedu nijalni jeerninchukoledu.....positive thinking ekkuva....Gandhi type idealistic.... |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 17158 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 09:36 pm: |
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Ganjibenzi:May be by that time, they stopped destroying temples.
they did not .. only that they were very very weak in India by then .. aa time lo kuda .. Afghan/Pak/Bangladesh lo .. thousands of temples koolchesaru .. because muslims were still strong there .. Jai Sri Ram - Jai Hind  |
   
Ganjibenzi
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Post Number: 148 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 98.167.233.85
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 09:34 pm: |
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Vjavasi:Tulaks temples destroy cheyyataniki money okkate criteria kadhu.....breaking temples and idols was/is/will be their sacred religious duty
Then, why did they spare Tirumala? AJ article says its only between 1700-1800 temple area is under muslim rule. May be by that time, they stopped destroying temples. Visit FaceBook at http://www.facebook.com/PrajaRajyam |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 17157 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 09:32 pm: |
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Zulu:neeku Indiarocks kurrod chesthilo ithadey..LOL
 Jai Sri Ram - Jai Hind  |
   
Zulu
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Post Number: 4006 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.181.197
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 09:30 pm: |
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Vjavasi:.breaking temples and idols was/is/will be their sacred religious duty
neeku Indiarocks kurrod chesthilo ithadey..LOL Mr KCR tear down this wall! |
   
Vjavasi
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Post Number: 4971 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 09:26 pm: |
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Ganjibenzi:May be because Venkanna did not have enough money those days.
Tulaks temples destroy cheyyataniki money okkate criteria kadhu.....breaking temples and idols was/is/will be their sacred religious duty |
   
Ganjibenzi
Junior Artist Username: Ganjibenzi
Post Number: 144 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 98.167.233.85
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 09:09 pm: |
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as per the following article: http://www.andhrajyothy.com/mainnewsshow.asp?qry=2010/sep/27 /main/27main1&more=2010/sep/27/main/main&date=9/27/2010 Mughals are aware of the temple still spared it. May be because Venkanna did not have enough money those days. Visit FaceBook at http://www.facebook.com/PrajaRajyam |
   
Gandhiguevara
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Post Number: 10386 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 98.210.96.94
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Abhysg
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Post Number: 3706 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 71.127.225.246
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 09:03 pm: |
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Cocanada:Destroying religion was never an agenda for british
proffesionals... telsa... separate dept... missionaries ki outsourced |
   
Abhysg
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Post Number: 3705 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 71.127.225.246
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 09:02 pm: |
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tulaks kasibiddale kaani sala lazy gallu.. 7hills ekkali ante.. enduku le.. anukoni untar... actually aa time lo tirupati kante SriRangapattanam baga famous.. tirupati recent ga oka 100years nundi baga veligipotondi.. |
   
Cocanada
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Post Number: 26633 Registered: 01-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 09:02 pm: |
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It is deep inside India unlike temples in north. I dont think British ever tried to destroy temples. Destroying religion was never an agenda for british Only muslims looted and destroyed temples. |
   
Ganjibenzi
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Post Number: 143 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 98.167.233.85
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 08:59 pm: |
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Vjavasi:venkanna sami 7 hills meedha vunnadu kadha antha easy kaadhu
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Vjavasi
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Post Number: 4965 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 08:58 pm: |
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Ganjibenzi:Despite looting all hindu temples in the country, why did Mughals and British did not touch Tirumala?
Tirumala meedha kooda attempts jariginatu vunnayi.....venkanna sami 7 hills meedha vunnadu kadha antha easy kaadhu |
   
Sasibabu
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Post Number: 2575 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 76.183.51.88
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 08:57 pm: |
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Onlytruth:yesobu batch kummaru ga
Joharrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr mahaaanetha Ranga:saakshit vaadi comedy ki, navvi navvi kanneellu vacchaayi YSR ki ade naa asru nivaali  |
   
Onlytruth
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Post Number: 68917 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 173.62.7.143
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 08:55 pm: |
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british valla kanna worst yesobu batch kummaru ga tirumala lo kuda Sadaa Sivaa!Sanyaasii!! Taapasii ! Kailaasa vasii !! |
   
Ganjibenzi
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Post Number: 141 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 98.167.233.85
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Despite looting all hindu temples in the country, why did Mughals and British did not touch Tirumala? Visit FaceBook at http://www.facebook.com/PrajaRajyam |