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Indiarocks:

But the question is do we have a system in place, to keep a control on that?



adenti .. Natwar Singh, Sukhram, George Fernandes .. are removed/made to resign when faced with corruption charges .. we have a great system right? :D
Jai Sri Ram - Jai Hind :-)
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Because power corrupts Just finished re-reading Animal Farm - gets better with every reading - what a book on politics and politicians




Yes, power corrupts. But the question is do we have a system in place, to keep a control on that?

Blagojeivich, a democrat, was impeached on corruption charges by a house with a democratic majority. When can we expect such things to happen in India?
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Indiarocks:

Now why are the politicians like that




Because power corrupts :-) Just finished re-reading Animal Farm - gets better with every reading - what a book on politics and politicians :-)


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why dont u guys think what can you do
donate to akshayapatra lanti orgs which are feeding and education poor people
if every NRI pledges then it can done sooner than thought




Agree with the first part - we need to do our part to help... and I know many here do so.

But the systemic problem needs to be resolved too - so that at some point in future there are people with the ability outnumber those needing help:-)

Does discussing here make that happen ante - maybe not ... but then again a movement like Lijjat papad (the Mahila Grih udyog )- started at a gossip session among 7 housewives with a capital of Rs.80 and became the foremost women's co-operative:-)

So you never know what may come out of these discussions :-)REcognizing the problem is the first step :-)
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corrupt leaders....stupid people (except few)!
CHIRU - SACHIN - FEDERER
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Root : too much of population


china ki antha kanna ekkuve undhi ga popl..
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Anybody who talks about fixes to the system, laws, bills is sitting in the AC room. A person with a mike in his hand, with a 100 ppl around him is a better option.
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Ishan:

Health and education are only small pieces of the puzzle. There must be long term and short term objectives. Health care is a an immediate concern, for the children out there right now. Population control is more of a long term aim and it involves careful planning, education of people with regards to the pros of birth control and thorough utilization of the social extension programs specifically designed for these purposes.




Health, Education, Employment are the pillars of this problem. If these aspects are rightly addressed most things will fall in place. But the pity is NONE of the major parties have this as their primary manifesto.

Ishan:

Regarding political parties, regardless of the party in the ruling GOVT, the annual and other periodical budgets allocate funds for these programs. All comes down to the concerning officials overlooking the implementation of the programs. Accountability at this stage is the biggest issue.




Officials corrupt - coz the system allows him to be unharmed, and be corrupt - Reason politiians - ppl who elect them.

No accountability - coz the system allows him to be so, and be unharmed - again the same reasons.

Now why are the politicians like that - coz fixes to the system don't get them votes, but individual distribution of benefits/money.

And those who want fixes to the system don't vote. period.
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True_indian:

dude i am not saying to support corrupt govt
but do your part, every politician is corrupt and govt is not doing enough
but NGO or private entities can make some difference

ginneki chillu undi kada ani pareste repu chillu ginne kuda undadu

look at the positive side of your helping make difference in atleast one kids life




Saaru, ginne pareyyali ani nenu ekkada cheppanu. Chillu inka peddadi authunte danni address cheyali. Then our donations will be more fruitful.

And why I say this is coz majority of those who are in a position to donate, are not bothered about the chillu. Come on aren't they the ones that should be the most bothered?

Yes, the positive side of charity is the kid being helped, and the personal satisfaction we get from it. But, who is going to change the system, isn't that also a duty on our part?
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All of this boils down to, Health, Education. None of the major parties have a primary focus on this.


Health and education are only small pieces of the puzzle. There must be long term and short term objectives. Health care is a an immediate concern, for the children out there right now. Population control is more of a long term aim and it involves careful planning, education of people with regards to the pros of birth control and thorough utilization of the social extension programs specifically designed for these purposes.

Regarding political parties, regardless of the party in the ruling GOVT, the annual and other periodical budgets allocate funds for these programs. All comes down to the concerning officials overlooking the implementation of the programs. Accountability at this stage is the biggest issue.
"Take up one idea. Make that one idea your life - think of it, dream of it, live on that idea. Let the brain, muscles, nerves, every part of your body, be full of that idea, and just leave every other idea alone. This is the way to success." - Complete works of Swami Vivekananda (Vol 1, Chap 6)
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True_indian:


show me one constructive suggestion in this thread


Read my first post.
"Take up one idea. Make that one idea your life - think of it, dream of it, live on that idea. Let the brain, muscles, nerves, every part of your body, be full of that idea, and just leave every other idea alone. This is the way to success." - Complete works of Swami Vivekananda (Vol 1, Chap 6)
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True_indian:



Indiarocks:




You both have great opinions. Yes, govt should do it's job but that's not happening and there seems to be no fix in sight.

Govt edo chestundi ani manam wait cheyyakunda manaku tagindi manam cheyyali. I am sure several people over here do what they can. meerem chestunnaru ani adagadam kanna vallu chestunnaru ani benefit of doubt ivvatam better anukunta, especially with NRIs. edo oka roopam lo andaru into anto chestune vunnaru.

The issue is that the problems are plenty in number & enormous in size. So, NGOs alone can't do it all, even with our donations. We need change in the damn system.

*maa college lo recruitment ki vaste group discussion lo andaram evevo cheppam. last lo okadu (who didn't really contribute much to the discussion) andukuni maa discussion ni summarize chesesadu. Needless to say he got hired. Mee discussion ni summarize chestune naaku aadu gurtocchadu.
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Ishan:



show me one constructive suggestion in this thread
we need kakarla to certify lot of Mental Kandidates
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True_indian:


lite lo, anta scene akkada ledu


That's your opinion, but I am sure there are many examples where people received valuable opinions posted in public forums on several matters, including the topic in question and benefited from them. That's why I think there is nothing wrong in posting constructive opinions. I rest my case.
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dude i am not saying to support corrupt govt
but do your part, every politician is corrupt and govt is not doing enough
but NGO or private entities can make some difference

ginneki chillu undi kada ani pareste repu chillu ginne kuda undadu

look at the positive side of your helping make difference in atleast one kids life
we need kakarla to certify lot of Mental Kandidates
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Ishan:

I think people who are posting valuable suggestions are doing far superior jobs than those who pass on judgments in lurking in ROM.




lite lo, anta scene akkada ledu
we need kakarla to certify lot of Mental Kandidates
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True_indian:

think how many NRI's india has
even if one support one kid in india, it can solve the issue to great extent




Oka ginne ki chillu undi. Dantlo neellu nimputunamu. Chillu lonchi potunnayi. Ginne nindatledu. Chillu inka peddadi authondi. Meeru inka ekkuva neellu poyali antunnaru. Kaani chillu ni address cheyakunda enni neellu posina waste ani cheptunna. Paiga konthamandi same NRIs, suppport the chillu, or totally act blind to the chillu.

What ever charity we do will not match up, without addressing the root cause ofthe problem. I am all for charity, but it should not be aimed at "making up for a dysfunctional Govt, or corruption". After all taxes are also hard earned money. They are also like forced donations to the Govt.
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True_indian:


i am not saying people are not doing, all i am saying instead of cursing govt
post how can you make difference

posting issues is normal, but think about solutions?


Thats what I mentioned in my first post where I pointed out a roadblock that I THINK might be hindering the progress aimed at not reaching the goals set. If any one reads and likes it, word spreads and that's how ideas expand and proliferate. Dont underestimate the power of words. I think people who are posting valuable suggestions are doing far superior jobs than those who pass on judgments in lurking in ROM.
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Indiarocks:



think how many NRI's india has
even if one support one kid in india, it can solve the issue to great extent
we need kakarla to certify lot of Mental Kandidates
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True_indian:

inni posts ese badalu
why dont u guys think what can you do
donate to akshayapatra lanti orgs which are feeding and education poor people
if every NRI pledges then it can done sooner than thought




How many can NRIs feed with charity, for how long?

Natural calamities need charity from ppl.
Diseases need charity from ppl.
Stupid wars need charity from ppl.

How much can charity do to make up for non-functional, corrupt Govts?
What is the point when we are indifferent, or support the same Govts, and do charity.

Isn't that self contradictory?
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i am not saying people are not doing, all i am saying instead of cursing govt
post how can you make difference

posting issues is normal, but think about solutions?
we need kakarla to certify lot of Mental Kandidates
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True_indian:

inni posts ese badalu
why dont u guys think what can you do
donate to akshayapatra lanti orgs which are feeding and education poor people
if every NRI pledges then it can done sooner than thought


What makes you think people posted here are not involved in such activities? Isn't it presumptuous of you to assume that people who express their ideas and opinions DO NOT participate in any of the welfare programs?
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inni posts ese badalu
why dont u guys think what can you do
donate to akshayapatra lanti orgs which are feeding and education poor people
if every NRI pledges then it can done sooner than thought
we need kakarla to certify lot of Mental Kandidates
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Ishan:

Multi dimensional approach in the sense that attacking the fundamental causes like health care, population control, illiteracy and employment opportunities




All of this boils down to, Health, Education. None of the major parties have a primary focus on this.

Bunty717:

manam towards right direction travel chestunnam ante.. eppatiko
appadiki mana destination reach avutaam

kani manam reverse direction lo veltunnam.. so destination ki
eppatiki reach avutamo everyone can imagine




evaru vachina oke direction, maredi em ledu kada, so imagine cheskodaniki emundi?
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Even though the target percentages were not reached, there seems to be some progress - for example the number of maternal deaths per lakh births has been brought down to 230 from 540, which is encouraging. But I think the main hindering aspect for slower rate of results is the lack of multi dimensional approach and of course apathy of officials. Multi dimensional approach in the sense that attacking the fundamental causes like health care, population control, illiteracy and employment opportunities, particularly of the really down trodden sections of the society, all at the same time. It requires lots of dedication and coordination to achieve it. Best wishes to whoever trying sincerely towards the goal.
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Film_fan:

If we cannot pull our poor along with us in this 'developing' phase.....What good a powerful country we would be in 20 yrs time.....



asalu .. 85 crore people are living with less than Rs 20 a day .. the so called development will never be able to pull these up with the current system .. asalu govt economic survey ne very nominal progress undi ani cheptondi .. we do not know, if that even reflects the poverty on the ground ..
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manam towards right direction travel chestunnam ante.. eppatiko
appadiki mana destination reach avutaam

kani manam reverse direction lo veltunnam.. so destination ki
eppatiki reach avutamo everyone can imagine
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If we cannot pull our poor along with us in this 'developing' phase.....What good a powerful country we would be in 20 yrs time.....

If people are starving and children dying with malnutrition.....what good is our show as powerful country.....

asalu powerful country meaning enti? kadupulu nimpudda....?
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Root : too much of population
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manalni Rambabu chesthunnaru anukunta......future antha meedey meedey ani....




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I guess, democracy failed us, it has certainly not given us any desirable results. We have tried multi-party democracy for 60 years and without anything heartening, IMO, we need to make amends to it and make it a two-party democracy to first clear out political instability and bring in more responsibility on the shoulders of the governments/politicians !!! There is not much accountability in the current system !
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As long as we support corrupted leaders like ysr, jagan and CBN.. we would never come out of this issues..

maralsindi pakistan.. srilanka kaadu.. mana public.. antha enduku.. db lo chadvukunna murkule support chestunnaru. .inka vere vaadi vishayam enti?
Katthi.. Anthe Katthi ante katthi.

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Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 11:52 am:   Insert Quote Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ippudu #3 manam.. unko 20 yrs lo # 1 ayipotaam..kiki
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naakaithey.....west antha kalisi....manalni Rambabu chesthunnaru anukunta......future antha meedey meedey ani....

mana Junta inka super.....future manadhi enti.....present ye manadhi annattu......
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
-- Aristotle
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Film_fan:

stop shouting that we are No.1 by 2030.




ippudu #3 manam.. unko 20 yrs lo # 1 ayipotaam..kiki
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Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 11:48 am:   Insert Quote Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

we have a longway to go....for sure.....

stop shouting that we are No.1 by 2030.....etc etc.....that doesnt count at all if third of your population is living a dreadful life......
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
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Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 11:44 am:   Insert Quote Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ee CWG ki 35k crs spend chese badulu .. veeti meeda spend cheyali

Ind 2bad2worst ga undi.. food grains waste avutunnayi kani
free ga poor ki ivvaru ta.. 35K spend chesi CWG village constuction ki
adi kuda complete cheyalekapoyeru.. accountability ledu..
bongu le nannu evadu emi peekutadu anna attitude prati leader ki..
mango people ki mana pani ayipothe chalu.. system M ayipothe manaki
eti anna attitude..
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Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 11:39 am:   Insert Quote Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

http://news.rediff.com/slide-show/2010/sep/22/slide-show-1-i n-3-days-15000-kids-will-die-in-india.htm


dhenamma emi develop avuthunnam saami...ghoramga undhi situation

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