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Kamal
Hero Username: Kamal
Post Number: 17063 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2010 - 08:44 pm: |
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Indiarocks:But the question is do we have a system in place, to keep a control on that?
adenti .. Natwar Singh, Sukhram, George Fernandes .. are removed/made to resign when faced with corruption charges .. we have a great system right?  Jai Sri Ram - Jai Hind  |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 5019 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2010 - 08:37 pm: |
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Anand_n:Because power corrupts Just finished re-reading Animal Farm - gets better with every reading - what a book on politics and politicians
Yes, power corrupts. But the question is do we have a system in place, to keep a control on that? Blagojeivich, a democrat, was impeached on corruption charges by a house with a democratic majority. When can we expect such things to happen in India? Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
Anand_n
Side Hero Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 7900 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2010 - 08:03 pm: |
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Indiarocks:Now why are the politicians like that
Because power corrupts Just finished re-reading Animal Farm - gets better with every reading - what a book on politics and politicians
True_indian:why dont u guys think what can you do donate to akshayapatra lanti orgs which are feeding and education poor people if every NRI pledges then it can done sooner than thought
Agree with the first part - we need to do our part to help... and I know many here do so. But the systemic problem needs to be resolved too - so that at some point in future there are people with the ability outnumber those needing help Does discussing here make that happen ante - maybe not ... but then again a movement like Lijjat papad (the Mahila Grih udyog )- started at a gossip session among 7 housewives with a capital of Rs.80 and became the foremost women's co-operative So you never know what may come out of these discussions REcognizing the problem is the first step  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Chiru_fan
Hero Username: Chiru_fan
Post Number: 13697 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 108.12.173.146
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2010 - 07:13 pm: |
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corrupt leaders....stupid people (except few)! CHIRU - SACHIN - FEDERER |
   
Cyberabadsinnodu
Junior Artist Username: Cyberabadsinnodu
Post Number: 442 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.206.116.251
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 08:27 pm: |
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Kalikaalam:Root : too much of population
china ki antha kanna ekkuve undhi ga popl.. ఎంత చికాగో యునివర్సిటీ లో చదువుకున్నా చిలక్కొట్టుడికి సరైన ఇంగ్లీషు పదం దొరుకుతుందా..!! |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 5003 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 02:50 pm: |
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Anybody who talks about fixes to the system, laws, bills is sitting in the AC room. A person with a mike in his hand, with a 100 ppl around him is a better option. Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 5002 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 02:49 pm: |
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Ishan:Health and education are only small pieces of the puzzle. There must be long term and short term objectives. Health care is a an immediate concern, for the children out there right now. Population control is more of a long term aim and it involves careful planning, education of people with regards to the pros of birth control and thorough utilization of the social extension programs specifically designed for these purposes.
Health, Education, Employment are the pillars of this problem. If these aspects are rightly addressed most things will fall in place. But the pity is NONE of the major parties have this as their primary manifesto. Ishan:Regarding political parties, regardless of the party in the ruling GOVT, the annual and other periodical budgets allocate funds for these programs. All comes down to the concerning officials overlooking the implementation of the programs. Accountability at this stage is the biggest issue.
Officials corrupt - coz the system allows him to be unharmed, and be corrupt - Reason politiians - ppl who elect them. No accountability - coz the system allows him to be so, and be unharmed - again the same reasons. Now why are the politicians like that - coz fixes to the system don't get them votes, but individual distribution of benefits/money. And those who want fixes to the system don't vote. period. Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 5001 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 02:44 pm: |
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True_indian:dude i am not saying to support corrupt govt but do your part, every politician is corrupt and govt is not doing enough but NGO or private entities can make some difference ginneki chillu undi kada ani pareste repu chillu ginne kuda undadu look at the positive side of your helping make difference in atleast one kids life
Saaru, ginne pareyyali ani nenu ekkada cheppanu. Chillu inka peddadi authunte danni address cheyali. Then our donations will be more fruitful. And why I say this is coz majority of those who are in a position to donate, are not bothered about the chillu. Come on aren't they the ones that should be the most bothered? Yes, the positive side of charity is the kid being helped, and the personal satisfaction we get from it. But, who is going to change the system, isn't that also a duty on our part? Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
Ishan
Side Hero Username: Ishan
Post Number: 5652 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.236.48
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 02:43 pm: |
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Indiarocks: All of this boils down to, Health, Education. None of the major parties have a primary focus on this.
Health and education are only small pieces of the puzzle. There must be long term and short term objectives. Health care is a an immediate concern, for the children out there right now. Population control is more of a long term aim and it involves careful planning, education of people with regards to the pros of birth control and thorough utilization of the social extension programs specifically designed for these purposes. Regarding political parties, regardless of the party in the ruling GOVT, the annual and other periodical budgets allocate funds for these programs. All comes down to the concerning officials overlooking the implementation of the programs. Accountability at this stage is the biggest issue. "Take up one idea. Make that one idea your life - think of it, dream of it, live on that idea. Let the brain, muscles, nerves, every part of your body, be full of that idea, and just leave every other idea alone. This is the way to success." - Complete works of Swami Vivekananda (Vol 1, Chap 6) |
   
Ishan
Side Hero Username: Ishan
Post Number: 5651 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.236.48
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 02:23 pm: |
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True_indian: show me one constructive suggestion in this thread
Read my first post. "Take up one idea. Make that one idea your life - think of it, dream of it, live on that idea. Let the brain, muscles, nerves, every part of your body, be full of that idea, and just leave every other idea alone. This is the way to success." - Complete works of Swami Vivekananda (Vol 1, Chap 6) |
   
Guttonkay
Side Hero Username: Guttonkay
Post Number: 6933 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 148.87.67.138
Rating:  Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 02:23 pm: |
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True_indian:
Indiarocks:
You both have great opinions. Yes, govt should do it's job but that's not happening and there seems to be no fix in sight. Govt edo chestundi ani manam wait cheyyakunda manaku tagindi manam cheyyali. I am sure several people over here do what they can. meerem chestunnaru ani adagadam kanna vallu chestunnaru ani benefit of doubt ivvatam better anukunta, especially with NRIs. edo oka roopam lo andaru into anto chestune vunnaru. The issue is that the problems are plenty in number & enormous in size. So, NGOs alone can't do it all, even with our donations. We need change in the damn system. *maa college lo recruitment ki vaste group discussion lo andaram evevo cheppam. last lo okadu (who didn't really contribute much to the discussion) andukuni maa discussion ni summarize chesesadu. Needless to say he got hired. Mee discussion ni summarize chestune naaku aadu gurtocchadu. Today's excuse: Didn't drink coffee yet. All excuses drawn from a random pile of excuses. |
   
True_indian
Side Hero Username: True_indian
Post Number: 5690 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 75.181.132.136
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 02:20 pm: |
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Ishan:
show me one constructive suggestion in this thread we need kakarla to certify lot of Mental Kandidates |
   
Ishan
Side Hero Username: Ishan
Post Number: 5650 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.236.48
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 02:18 pm: |
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True_indian: lite lo, anta scene akkada ledu
That's your opinion, but I am sure there are many examples where people received valuable opinions posted in public forums on several matters, including the topic in question and benefited from them. That's why I think there is nothing wrong in posting constructive opinions. I rest my case. "Take up one idea. Make that one idea your life - think of it, dream of it, live on that idea. Let the brain, muscles, nerves, every part of your body, be full of that idea, and just leave every other idea alone. This is the way to success." - Complete works of Swami Vivekananda (Vol 1, Chap 6) |
   
True_indian
Side Hero Username: True_indian
Post Number: 5688 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 75.181.132.136
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 02:13 pm: |
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Indiarocks:
dude i am not saying to support corrupt govt but do your part, every politician is corrupt and govt is not doing enough but NGO or private entities can make some difference ginneki chillu undi kada ani pareste repu chillu ginne kuda undadu look at the positive side of your helping make difference in atleast one kids life we need kakarla to certify lot of Mental Kandidates |
   
True_indian
Side Hero Username: True_indian
Post Number: 5687 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 75.181.132.136
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 02:11 pm: |
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Ishan:I think people who are posting valuable suggestions are doing far superior jobs than those who pass on judgments in lurking in ROM.
lite lo, anta scene akkada ledu we need kakarla to certify lot of Mental Kandidates |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 4996 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 02:09 pm: |
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True_indian:think how many NRI's india has even if one support one kid in india, it can solve the issue to great extent
Oka ginne ki chillu undi. Dantlo neellu nimputunamu. Chillu lonchi potunnayi. Ginne nindatledu. Chillu inka peddadi authondi. Meeru inka ekkuva neellu poyali antunnaru. Kaani chillu ni address cheyakunda enni neellu posina waste ani cheptunna. Paiga konthamandi same NRIs, suppport the chillu, or totally act blind to the chillu. What ever charity we do will not match up, without addressing the root cause ofthe problem. I am all for charity, but it should not be aimed at "making up for a dysfunctional Govt, or corruption". After all taxes are also hard earned money. They are also like forced donations to the Govt. Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
Ishan
Side Hero Username: Ishan
Post Number: 5649 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.236.48
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 02:02 pm: |
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True_indian: i am not saying people are not doing, all i am saying instead of cursing govt post how can you make difference posting issues is normal, but think about solutions?
Thats what I mentioned in my first post where I pointed out a roadblock that I THINK might be hindering the progress aimed at not reaching the goals set. If any one reads and likes it, word spreads and that's how ideas expand and proliferate. Dont underestimate the power of words. I think people who are posting valuable suggestions are doing far superior jobs than those who pass on judgments in lurking in ROM. "Take up one idea. Make that one idea your life - think of it, dream of it, live on that idea. Let the brain, muscles, nerves, every part of your body, be full of that idea, and just leave every other idea alone. This is the way to success." - Complete works of Swami Vivekananda (Vol 1, Chap 6) |
   
True_indian
Side Hero Username: True_indian
Post Number: 5685 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 75.181.132.136
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 01:59 pm: |
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Indiarocks:
think how many NRI's india has even if one support one kid in india, it can solve the issue to great extent we need kakarla to certify lot of Mental Kandidates |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 4993 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 01:43 pm: |
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True_indian:inni posts ese badalu why dont u guys think what can you do donate to akshayapatra lanti orgs which are feeding and education poor people if every NRI pledges then it can done sooner than thought
How many can NRIs feed with charity, for how long? Natural calamities need charity from ppl. Diseases need charity from ppl. Stupid wars need charity from ppl. How much can charity do to make up for non-functional, corrupt Govts? What is the point when we are indifferent, or support the same Govts, and do charity. Isn't that self contradictory? Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
True_indian
Side Hero Username: True_indian
Post Number: 5684 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 75.181.132.136
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 01:39 pm: |
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Ishan:
i am not saying people are not doing, all i am saying instead of cursing govt post how can you make difference posting issues is normal, but think about solutions? we need kakarla to certify lot of Mental Kandidates |
   
Ishan
Side Hero Username: Ishan
Post Number: 5648 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.236.48
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 01:35 pm: |
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True_indian:inni posts ese badalu why dont u guys think what can you do donate to akshayapatra lanti orgs which are feeding and education poor people if every NRI pledges then it can done sooner than thought
What makes you think people posted here are not involved in such activities? Isn't it presumptuous of you to assume that people who express their ideas and opinions DO NOT participate in any of the welfare programs? "Take up one idea. Make that one idea your life - think of it, dream of it, live on that idea. Let the brain, muscles, nerves, every part of your body, be full of that idea, and just leave every other idea alone. This is the way to success." - Complete works of Swami Vivekananda (Vol 1, Chap 6) |
   
True_indian
Side Hero Username: True_indian
Post Number: 5683 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 75.181.132.136
Rating:  Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 01:27 pm: |
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inni posts ese badalu why dont u guys think what can you do donate to akshayapatra lanti orgs which are feeding and education poor people if every NRI pledges then it can done sooner than thought we need kakarla to certify lot of Mental Kandidates |
   
Indiarocks
Side Hero Username: Indiarocks
Post Number: 4989 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 12:49 pm: |
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Ishan:Multi dimensional approach in the sense that attacking the fundamental causes like health care, population control, illiteracy and employment opportunities
All of this boils down to, Health, Education. None of the major parties have a primary focus on this. Bunty717:manam towards right direction travel chestunnam ante.. eppatiko appadiki mana destination reach avutaam kani manam reverse direction lo veltunnam.. so destination ki eppatiki reach avutamo everyone can imagine
evaru vachina oke direction, maredi em ledu kada, so imagine cheskodaniki emundi? Arogyasree fans must watch |
   
Ishan
Side Hero Username: Ishan
Post Number: 5646 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.236.48
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 12:43 pm: |
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Even though the target percentages were not reached, there seems to be some progress - for example the number of maternal deaths per lakh births has been brought down to 230 from 540, which is encouraging. But I think the main hindering aspect for slower rate of results is the lack of multi dimensional approach and of course apathy of officials. Multi dimensional approach in the sense that attacking the fundamental causes like health care, population control, illiteracy and employment opportunities, particularly of the really down trodden sections of the society, all at the same time. It requires lots of dedication and coordination to achieve it. Best wishes to whoever trying sincerely towards the goal. "Take up one idea. Make that one idea your life - think of it, dream of it, live on that idea. Let the brain, muscles, nerves, every part of your body, be full of that idea, and just leave every other idea alone. This is the way to success." - volume 1, chapter 6 - complete works of swami vivekananda |
   
Kamal
Hero Username: Kamal
Post Number: 16938 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 12:16 pm: |
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Film_fan:If we cannot pull our poor along with us in this 'developing' phase.....What good a powerful country we would be in 20 yrs time.....
asalu .. 85 crore people are living with less than Rs 20 a day .. the so called development will never be able to pull these up with the current system .. asalu govt economic survey ne very nominal progress undi ani cheptondi .. we do not know, if that even reflects the poverty on the ground .. Jai Sri Ram - Jai Hind  |
   
Bunty717
Hero Username: Bunty717
Post Number: 11236 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 161.185.157.24
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 12:01 pm: |
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manam towards right direction travel chestunnam ante.. eppatiko appadiki mana destination reach avutaam kani manam reverse direction lo veltunnam.. so destination ki eppatiki reach avutamo everyone can imagine |
   
Film_fan
Hero Username: Film_fan
Post Number: 14348 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.138.131.153
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 11:56 am: |
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If we cannot pull our poor along with us in this 'developing' phase.....What good a powerful country we would be in 20 yrs time..... If people are starving and children dying with malnutrition.....what good is our show as powerful country..... asalu powerful country meaning enti? kadupulu nimpudda....? We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit. -- Aristotle
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Kalikaalam
Side Hero Username: Kalikaalam
Post Number: 4388 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 173.49.92.228
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 11:56 am: |
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Root : too much of population |
   
Bunty717
Hero Username: Bunty717
Post Number: 11235 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 161.185.157.24
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 11:55 am: |
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Film_fan:manalni Rambabu chesthunnaru anukunta......future antha meedey meedey ani....
idi correct.. |
   
Kamal
Hero Username: Kamal
Post Number: 16937 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 11:53 am: |
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I guess, democracy failed us, it has certainly not given us any desirable results. We have tried multi-party democracy for 60 years and without anything heartening, IMO, we need to make amends to it and make it a two-party democracy to first clear out political instability and bring in more responsibility on the shoulders of the governments/politicians !!! There is not much accountability in the current system ! Jai Sri Ram - Jai Hind  |
   
Katthi
Junior Artist Username: Katthi
Post Number: 401 Registered: 07-2010 Posted From: 12.157.82.212
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 11:53 am: |
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Elcaminocapastrino:
As long as we support corrupted leaders like ysr, jagan and CBN.. we would never come out of this issues.. maralsindi pakistan.. srilanka kaadu.. mana public.. antha enduku.. db lo chadvukunna murkule support chestunnaru. .inka vere vaadi vishayam enti? Katthi.. Anthe Katthi ante katthi.
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Film_fan
Hero Username: Film_fan
Post Number: 14347 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.138.131.153
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 11:52 am: |
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ippudu #3 manam.. unko 20 yrs lo # 1 ayipotaam..kiki -- naakaithey.....west antha kalisi....manalni Rambabu chesthunnaru anukunta......future antha meedey meedey ani.... mana Junta inka super.....future manadhi enti.....present ye manadhi annattu...... We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit. -- Aristotle
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Bunty717
Hero Username: Bunty717
Post Number: 11234 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 161.185.157.24
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 11:51 am: |
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Film_fan:stop shouting that we are No.1 by 2030.
ippudu #3 manam.. unko 20 yrs lo # 1 ayipotaam..kiki |
   
Film_fan
Hero Username: Film_fan
Post Number: 14346 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.138.131.153
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 11:48 am: |
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we have a longway to go....for sure..... stop shouting that we are No.1 by 2030.....etc etc.....that doesnt count at all if third of your population is living a dreadful life...... We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit. -- Aristotle
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Bunty717
Hero Username: Bunty717
Post Number: 11231 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 161.185.157.24
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 11:44 am: |
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ee CWG ki 35k crs spend chese badulu .. veeti meeda spend cheyali Ind 2bad2worst ga undi.. food grains waste avutunnayi kani free ga poor ki ivvaru ta.. 35K spend chesi CWG village constuction ki adi kuda complete cheyalekapoyeru.. accountability ledu.. bongu le nannu evadu emi peekutadu anna attitude prati leader ki.. mango people ki mana pani ayipothe chalu.. system M ayipothe manaki eti anna attitude.. |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
Megastar Username: Elcaminocapastrino
Post Number: 21879 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 76.126.248.187
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 11:39 am: |
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http://news.rediff.com/slide-show/2010/sep/22/slide-show-1-i n-3-days-15000-kids-will-die-in-india.htm dhenamma emi develop avuthunnam saami...ghoramga undhi situation |