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Vjavasi:

author ki telusu....aa words ni smarista sollu kaburlu cheppe media, so called intellectuals ki teleedhu




telisthe vallani secularist anadu.

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he Ram devotees were asked to produce a birth certificate testifying that the figure they venerated actually existed; the dispute over the religious antiquity of the disputed site was sought to be settled by a show of hands in the Indian History Congress; a Left ideologue argued that Ram was chosen over Krishna and Shiva for �liberation' because he was �upper' caste; another Left activist was reported as saying that the disputed site should be converted into a non-denominational, public urinal; and, a cultural organisation linked to the CPI(M) organised an exhibition highlighting some obscure belief that Sita was actually Ram's sister.




Manaki nachani vallalo ilanti pichollu untaru, rational gaa oppose chesevallu untaru. Rational mind aithe difference telsukuntaru.

does the author mean that he does not believe in secularism?
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Gaali is another corrupt mining guy taking advantage of mafia's national policy to deplete India of it's valuable resources.




Abbooo, Gaali taking advantage of mafia's national policy kiki...

What about Karnataka Govts policy to continue tainted ministers in the cabinet.
What about its policy of not giving anti corruption agencies enough powers, even after promising about it in their manifesto?

Oka pakkana problem is corruption, "illegal" miniing, "illegal" exports ani telsi kooda, naam ke vaste mining export ban chesthe mana chappatlu.kiki

Gaali corruption, illegal mining, and mining exports are different issues.
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Ilanti pichollani secular modernist antunnadu ante, author ki secularism spelling, definition teliyadu.





author ki telusu....aa words ni smarista sollu kaburlu cheppe media, so called intellectuals ki teleedhu
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etti paristutullo Italian mafia ki support chese prasne arise kadhu.....any time i would prefer any worst,uneducated, uncivilzed indian poltician than mafia.....none can be worse than mafia......Gaali is another corrupt mining guy taking advantage of mafia's national policy to deplete India of it's valuable resources.....also,i wouldn't like Gali to be major stakeholder in karnataka Bjp
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he Ram devotees were asked to produce a birth certificate testifying that the figure they venerated actually existed; the dispute over the religious antiquity of the disputed site was sought to be settled by a show of hands in the Indian History Congress; a Left ideologue argued that Ram was chosen over Krishna and Shiva for �liberation' because he was �upper' caste; another Left activist was reported as saying that the disputed site should be converted into a non-denominational, public urinal; and, a cultural organisation linked to the CPI(M) organised an exhibition highlighting some obscure belief that Sita was actually Ram's sister.




Ilanti pichollani secular modernist antunnadu ante, author ki secularism spelling, definition teliyadu.
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sare gaani....oka maata cheppu....looks like ee okka vishayam lo nuvvu Sonia ni support chesthaav anukuntaa......whats your opinion about gaali?
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My loyalty is for truth.......and for the best among available.....irrespective of caste, color, religion and creed......which side is yours?





Good, keep it up bro...........i don't think declaring my loyalty to truth or x,y,z will change anything.......that's futile and for me not required....my loyalty declaration will not turn my arguments to absolute truths
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.....However how they take and interpret depends on to which side of political spectrum they resonate
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My loyalty is for truth.......and for the best among available.....irrespective of caste, color, religion and creed......which side is yours?
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FYI my understanding of YSR is not confined to your so called keyword propagandists.......any active political observer can dissect the motives,causes,and results of YSR and his brand of politics.....However how they take and interpret depends on to which side of political spectrum they resonate
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ok brother...nee istam....tappu cheyyaledu ani nenu ananu...but then mosamey basis gaa pettukuni, keywords use chesi propaganda chesey vaallani nammoddu antunnaa.........you know what Brotish/Macaulay did.......do you support that when it fits ur loyalties??....

ainaa if you have a point, you shud be able to prove it......they are not discussing the way I want it, otherwise YSR is bad antey elaa???????.......
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oh really...ofcourse it depends on which side you are...every time their line of argument and defence was counter allegations against Ramoji, CBN and other opponents in the manner YSR practiced
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as far as I remember, YSR detractors got shot down every freakin single time.......
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go through the archives.....you will find so many links with facts
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come back with facts......appudu discuss cheddaam.....or else keep using the keywords....

BTW, I am always happy......whether someone is screwed or gets crowned.....they are two different things.......dont mix em up...
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Facts and figures pettu....YSR factionism em chesaadu as a CM?.....how many castes/tribes/religions or groups were attacked??????? and how much his govt was different from other govts in the state?....

then we can talk facts and figures about his evangelism and other issues you have with him.....




chala sarlu ee DB lo with facts and figures discuss chesam....prastutam opika, interest rendu levu......using his religious and social background he tried to create and nourish a faction at all levels at the expense of taxpayer's money


Pplsuck:

The only guy got screwed by YSR was Ramoji....and you know who played like the fanatic factinist role in that case......




Ok, then be happy.....you should no more bother about Ramoji....He is already screwed.....no more a threat
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Facts and figures pettu....YSR factionism em chesaadu as a CM?.....how many castes/tribes/religions or groups were attacked??????? and how much his govt was different from other govts in the state?....

then we can talk facts and figures about his evangelism and other issues you have with him.....

The only guy got screwed by YSR was Ramoji....and you know who played like the fanatic factinist role in that case......
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nuvvu YSR/Ramoji vishayam lo bolthaa padinattu......ikkada most of the so called "smart intelligent" DBers like Mav, Kish etc ni adugu.......abbo, CBN antey topu turum khan antaaru......AAPL, GOOG, MS anni CBN kanipettaadu ani nammuthaaru......

Hope you will come out of keyword games and substantiate your opinions....rather than falling for two flyovers and visions/illusions type of stuff.......





i am very clear........nobody comes even closer to YSR when it comes to damage to state.....his politics is dangerous open cocktail of factionism & evangelism with casteism as under current...he crossed all limits of decency..inka details ee DB lo konni vandala sarlu discuss chesi vuntaaru
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monna ninnu "secularist liberal" ani piluddaam anukunnaa.....Ramoji/YSR vishayam lo.........but that kinda vitriol is unwarranted emo ani aagipoyaanu.......

basis lekundaa "Faction, divisive, caste politics" type keywords use chestuntey......may be chilaka palukula liberals laagaa maatlaadutunnaav anipinchindi........but then, that will be the worst kinda slur I can bestow upon you ani aagipoyaaa....




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YSR motives ento atani fans and followers kooda baaga telusu...YSR vishayam lo basis lekapovatm enti......everything was done openly....questions adigina vallani dabayinchatam, bedirinchatam.....em peekuntaro peekondi court ki pondi ani careless ga samadanalu ivvatam......his modus operandi is combinatgion of factionalism and evangelism...factionalists , looters, evangelists ki against ga matladithe liberals ayiporu......conservative ante dongalu,dopideedarula supporters kadhu.....i think you got the definitions wrong......i am neither a liberal nor a conservative......what matters to me is the interests of Bharat
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10 articles lo okati chadivina chalu.....ee DB varaku mission accomplished




okkate danni 10 sarlu enduk rastav
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repu sep 24 judgement ki ready na....emi expect chestunnav?....


yekkado america lo...yevado yedho book kaalchesaadu anna rumour kay...almost 40 people chanipoyaaru.
Inka Ayodhyalo...antay
jarigay pani kaadhu anukuntunna
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nuvvu YSR/Ramoji vishayam lo bolthaa padinattu......ikkada most of the so called "smart intelligent" DBers like Mav, Kish etc ni adugu.......abbo, CBN antey topu turum khan antaaru......AAPL, GOOG, MS anni CBN kanipettaadu ani nammuthaaru......

Hope you will come out of keyword games and substantiate your opinions....rather than falling for two flyovers and visions/illusions type of stuff.......
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vja,

monna ninnu "secularist liberal" ani piluddaam anukunnaa.....Ramoji/YSR vishayam lo.........but that kinda vitriol is unwarranted emo ani aagipoyaanu.......

basis lekundaa "Faction, divisive, caste politics" type keywords use chestuntey......may be chilaka palukula liberals laagaa maatlaadutunnaav anipinchindi........but then, that will be the worst kinda slur I can bestow upon you ani aagipoyaaa....
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The secular modernists were different. They tried to steer the debate into another direction by a campaign of mockery and derision which included posters saying, �Sharam se kaho hum Hindu hain.� To my mind, their smug condescension and haughtiness were significant factors in triggering Hindu anger in the late-1980s and early-1990s and, indeed, preventing a negotiated settlement. The Ayodhya explosion had a strong anti-elitist bias which stemmed from the fury of the outlanders.



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kamal tambi.....repu sep 24 judgement ki ready na....emi expect chestunnav?....



ilanti pichi LK secularist galla G pagala denke program annai ...
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Elkum,NTR_rocks tammudu lanti vallu ee samajaniki shreyaskaram kaadu antava vaake
Ee roju puttina roju jarupukuntunna vallaki janma dina subhakankshalu
Pelli roju variki pelliroju subha kankshalu ..

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mee thed titles chala intersting gaa untaayi but....matter chadavalante badhakam





10 articles lo okati chadivina chalu.....ee DB varaku mission accomplished
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Anna
mee thed titles chala intersting gaa untaayi but....matter chadavalante badhakam
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kamal tambi.....repu sep 24 judgement ki ready na....emi expect chestunnav?....
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Found mainly in the rarefied enclaves of the English language media, history and sociology departments of universities and internationally-connected NGOs, rootless modernism proceeds on the premise of inherent cultural and intellectual superiority. Though this section occasionally falls back on quotations from Mahatma Gandhi, the Upanishads and the rhythmic excitement of Sufi music and Baul songs � all items of favourable currency in trendy, avant garde circles � their intellectualism is aimed at establishing a separation from both the �great unwashed� and the nouveau.




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http://dailypioneer.com/284163/Secular-modernists-pose-great er-threat.html

Secular modernists pose greater threat
September 19, 2010 2:41:21 AM

Swapan Dasgupta

The appeal by the Union Cabinet to all Indians to exercise restraint and keep the peace after the Allahabad High Court delivers its long-overdue verdict in the Ram Janmabhoomi-Babri Masjid dispute was a necessary pre-emptive measure. Such an appeal may well be pro forma but it does send out a signal to the country to take the verdict in its stride.

It is equally reassuring that the two main parties to the dispute have actually pre-empted this call for calm. The RSS chief has indicated that his parivar, which includes the VHP and the wild Bajrang Dal, will be guided by strict constitutionalism, and the various Muslim bodies have advised members of the community to refrain from either celebrations or assertions of victimhood. It is possible that the extremist fringe in both communities will not be moved by the calls of the leadership and emulate the stone-pelting delinquents in the Kashmir Valley, but as long as the unruliness remains localised and without wider community support, it should be possible for any purposeful administration to control the hotheads.

On the face of it, there are only two sides of the dispute: Those who want to construct a grand temple on the site they believe is the exact birthplace of the epic hero Ram, and those who want to restore the place to its pre-1949 status of a mosque. As far as the judicial process is concerned, this binary divide is valid. However, in a wider social and political sense, the dispute has also been cluttered by the interventions of what Pope Benedict XVI described last week as the very distasteful âaggressive forms of secularismâ.

Of course, what the Pope had in mind in the context of Europe was a variety of macho atheism that does not exist in a meaningful way in India. The âaggressive forms of secularismâ in India have come packaged in the guise of rootless modernity.

Found mainly in the rarefied enclaves of the English language media, history and sociology departments of universities and internationally-connected NGOs, rootless modernism proceeds on the premise of inherent cultural and intellectual superiority. Though this section occasionally falls back on quotations from Mahatma Gandhi, the Upanishads and the rhythmic excitement of Sufi music and Baul songs â all items of favourable currency in trendy, avant garde circles â their intellectualism is aimed at establishing a separation from both the âgreat unwashedâ and the nouveau.

Wilfully giving offence to the mass of believers or simply mocking them is the signature tune of aesthetic superiority. Since organised Islam tends to be extra prickly in viewing both blasphemy and disrespect â witness the harassment of Salman Rushdie, Taslima Nasreen and the Danish cartoonist â impetuous modernists have concentrated their ire on popular Hinduism.

Some of this derision, particularly when directed at charlatan godmen and cruel practices that discriminate against women and âlower' castes, is richly deserved. The problem lies not in the criticism or even denunciations but in the tone of the assault.

Public memory being short, not too many people may recall the seminal contribution of India's modernist elite to vitiating the atmosphere and triggering a vicious and often unpalatable Hindu backlash. It began with the disingenuous denial and justification of vandalism by medieval Muslim rulers â a process that led to the dishonest rewriting of Indian history. It continued along this path with political interventions that were not merely insensitive but positively inflammatory.

The Ram devotees were asked to produce a birth certificate testifying that the figure they venerated actually existed; the dispute over the religious antiquity of the disputed site was sought to be settled by a show of hands in the Indian History Congress; a Left ideologue argued that Ram was chosen over Krishna and Shiva for âliberation' because he was âupper' caste; another Left activist was reported as saying that the disputed site should be converted into a non-denominational, public urinal; and, a cultural organisation linked to the CPI(M) organised an exhibition highlighting some obscure belief that Sita was actually Ram's sister.

To believe that these were maverick voices comparable to some of the hurtful ballads popularised by some itinerant Bhojpuri singers who appeared in local VHP programmes is to create a false equivalence. The âunderground' cassettes and histories sold in the narrow lanes of Hindu temple towns such as Ayodhya were truly fringe: Their creators never figured in mainstream discourse and never got invited to the interminable seminars on the subject.

The secular modernists were different. They tried to steer the debate into another direction by a campaign of mockery and derision which included posters saying, âSharam se kaho hum Hindu hain.â To my mind, their smug condescension and haughtiness were significant factors in triggering Hindu anger in the late-1980s and early-1990s and, indeed, preventing a negotiated settlement. The Ayodhya explosion had a strong anti-elitist bias which stemmed from the fury of the outlanders.

The Government has appealed to Hindus and Muslims to show restraint and keep larger national interests in mind. But it is not the religious-minded who necessarily provoke each other. A big threat to calm could come from the 'cool' secular-modernists (not least in the media) who believe that they have a monopoly right to give offence.

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