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     Ruj Side Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 2708 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 76.17.165.117 Rating: N/A |
ippudu levu.  .oka 4-5months bane sekarincha veeti gurinchi..malli choosi dorikithe pedutha..Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5425 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.107.38 Rating: N/A |
yes, much of history is unknown. may be because literature is lost. What u said about samantha rajas is true, but my hypothesis also can be true too. If a samantha king rules a particular region long enough, distinction can take place. But we dont know that for sure. We can just hypothesize. | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5424 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.106.234 Rating: N/A |
bold thammud...I am not talking about physical separation, but cultural influence. Btw, nuvvu ee madhya koddiga research chesthunnattunnav... Qutubsha dynasty empire 400 yrs back nunchi independence varaki (including nizam) physically ekkadekkada spread ayyayo evanna links doriki vunte ikkada ettu. | ||
| Ruj Side Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 2701 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 132.189.76.18 Rating: N/A |
hmm..mahabhratathalo telvanas/telingas undi nijame kaani..aa taruvatha eppudu ekkada references levu kadha..ika samantha rajula vishayam ki vasthe.obvious ga samantha rajulu antene diff oorlu cities diff rajulu paripalistharu..ee kingdonlo ayina..there is no guarante that today's warangal and today's karimnagar would have been under one samantha raju  Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 16674 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
hahaha .. kurrollaki chaadastam koosintha ekkuve .. kikk "To be born free is an accident. To live free is a privilege. To die free is a responsibility" - Indian Army | ||
| Ruj Side Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 2700 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 132.189.76.18 Rating: N/A |
400yrs ekkada bhayya...~250yrs ayyuindhi anthe coastal vidipoyi.....200yrs back kooda today's rayalseema and telangana were under one rule.. Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5423 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.89.186.226 Rating: N/A |
Because the real distinction between A and T culture has started 400 yrs back and nothing changed ever since. | ||
| Eluri_kurradu Hero Username: Eluri_kurradu Post Number: 10473 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.21.220.90 Rating: N/A |
many of Tamil uth believe names like meenakshi bharathi mani lakshmi are Tamil names kiki Ee roju puttina roju jarupukuntunna vallaki janma dina subhakankshalu Pelli roju variki pelliroju subha kankshalu .. | ||
| Eluri_kurradu Hero Username: Eluri_kurradu Post Number: 10472 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.21.220.90 Rating: N/A |
aaa madhya oka tamil group lo unappudu shabdam ante shabdam kaaadu saddam ani correction icharu naaku Ee roju puttina roju jarupukuntunna vallaki janma dina subhakankshalu Pelli roju variki pelliroju subha kankshalu .. | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 4360 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 68.119.69.49 Rating: |
telugu ki special racial brand ichesara..yerri good. tamil emi fafam sesindhi. ippudu mataduthunna tamil lo saana words ki sanskrit root untadhi ofcourse ee ishayam thelisina tamilians calm ga untaar.. migatha vallu sinchukuntar ee vishayam chepthe the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Saughmraat Junior Artist Username: Saughmraat Post Number: 443 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 202.164.25.5 Rating: N/A |
why 400? why not 10? | ||
| Zulu Side Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 3917 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.181.197 Rating: |
mee language group peru dravidian kadu inkokati ante, i dont have any problem..telugu is derived from proto-telugan ani oka book rastha..kavalante..anthe kaani aa nepam tho sammaga mammalni bhayya galla tho kalipeyyodhu antunna..kiki E link choodu, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dravidian_languages#Classificat ion proto-central dravidian lo telugu tho paatu..savara, chenchu, gondi..naa bonda..bongu inko 14 languages unnayi Mr KCR tear down this wall! | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5422 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.89.186.226 Rating: N/A |
I know - qutubshahi sultan ani type chese vopika leka alaa type chesa...aa raayi ayithe endi netthi pagalkottukodaaniki ani... | ||
| Eluri_kurradu Hero Username: Eluri_kurradu Post Number: 10469 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.21.220.90 Rating: |
kannada Tamil malayalam nouns are so close they belong to same tree anukunta Telugu is conveniently clubbed to dravidian languages only to increase their fire power .. danivalla manaki origindemi ledu .. We are different to both Aryans and dravidians ante . anedi naa point.  Ee roju puttina roju jarupukuntunna vallaki janma dina subhakankshalu Pelli roju variki pelliroju subha kankshalu .. | ||
| Simpletruth Comedian Username: Simpletruth Post Number: 1011 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 71.255.234.26 Rating: N/A |
sure. in previous post, you mentioned that nizam ruled for 400 years. incorrect. Golconda kings are different from nizams. You might know this already. | ||
| Zulu Side Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 3916 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.181.197 Rating: N/A |
nee point naku light ga artham ayyi avvanattu ga undi..so you are saying since these words cannot be found in kannada and tamil..they cant be dravidian antavu. Dravidian is divided into proto-south-dravidian and proto-central-dravidian, telugu comes under proto-central-dravidian. Mr KCR tear down this wall! | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5421 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.89.186.226 Rating: N/A |
sorry i quoted wrong sentence in my previous post...regarding common tribal origins also..chala variations unnayi...time unnappudu discudaam | ||
| Eluri_kurradu Hero Username: Eluri_kurradu Post Number: 10466 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.21.220.90 Rating: N/A |
adi kaadule mundara krishnudito fight chesina vallalo chanurudu Andhra vadu anta .. Anyhow appatlo max rajulu kauravulane support chesaru .. only 4-5 kingdoms mathram Kauravas side teeskunnayi kada tappemindi .. Ee roju puttina roju jarupukuntunna vallaki janma dina subhakankshalu Pelli roju variki pelliroju subha kankshalu .. | ||
| Gandhiguevara Hero Username: Gandhiguevara Post Number: 10094 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 98.210.96.94 Rating: N/A |
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| Eluri_kurradu Hero Username: Eluri_kurradu Post Number: 10464 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.21.220.90 Rating: N/A |
kampu impu vanku mata majjiga perugu Ee roju puttina roju jarupukuntunna vallaki janma dina subhakankshalu Pelli roju variki pelliroju subha kankshalu .. | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5420 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.89.186.226 Rating: N/A |
no one knows for sure...in mahabharatha texts written before 400BC, teninga was mentioned which was separate kingdom from andhraka...we dont have proper evidence to prove either pov. Both regions were united and separated at different points of times. There are people that claim that even when they were united, seperate samantha rajas used to rule the two regions. But real distinction came after nizam rule has started about 400 years ago. | ||
| Eluri_kurradu Hero Username: Eluri_kurradu Post Number: 10463 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.21.220.90 Rating: N/A |
gaddi pidugu matti godugu chevi Ee roju puttina roju jarupukuntunna vallaki janma dina subhakankshalu Pelli roju variki pelliroju subha kankshalu .. | ||
| Zulu Side Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 3915 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.181.197 Rating: N/A |
ante enti mama? oka 4-5 nouns cheppu Mr KCR tear down this wall! | ||
| Eluri_kurradu Hero Username: Eluri_kurradu Post Number: 10462 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.21.220.90 Rating: |
endaa navvu peddayana uddesamlo Telugu canot be clubbed with Dravidian /Aryan ani ante majority of telugu nouns do not have a dravidian route .. kannada is more close to Tamil than telugu by huge margin .. Ee roju puttina roju jarupukuntunna vallaki janma dina subhakankshalu Pelli roju variki pelliroju subha kankshalu .. | ||
| Simpletruth Comedian Username: Simpletruth Post Number: 1009 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 71.255.234.26 Rating: N/A |
no body denies. we are only pointing out historical refernces that we all belong to same andhra tribe. There is race called telangana nor a lnaguage called telangana. | ||
| Zulu Side Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 3914 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.181.197 Rating: N/A |
Mr KCR tear down this wall! | ||
| Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5414 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.89.186.226 Rating: N/A |
400yrs nunchi unna culture important...eppudo bhhomi puttina kalam sangathulu enduku | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 4356 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
eee history dheniki vaa.. nizam rule mundhu unna history avasaram ledhu ani eppudo decide chesinru the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Ruj Side Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 2693 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 132.189.76.18 Rating: N/A |
veelu history kooda cheppara..  Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat | ||
| Vijay77 Junior Artist Username: Vijay77 Post Number: 441 Registered: 06-2010 Posted From: 199.41.197.24 Rating: N/A |
Idantha nenu oppukonu. Idantha lagadapati chepthunna history. Telugu history 2 types. Okati Lagadapati chepthunna history, rendodi KCR+Kodandaram chepthunna history. | ||
| Ruj Side Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 2692 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 132.189.76.18 Rating: N/A |
 ruj204@yahoo.com ki kooda email cheyandi brotherCongress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat | ||
| Okahyderabadi Comedian Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 1973 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 204.174.60.234 Rating: |
tammi i dont think you are getting what i am saying. Telugu is derived from sanskrit and Prakrit. There was no common language like Telugu, prakrit was the common spoken language then while Sanskrit was limited to the court usage. Telugu has been conveniently clubbed in to Dravidian bucket. In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Simpletruth Comedian Username: Simpletruth Post Number: 1003 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 66.239.163.31 Rating: N/A |
there are many literatures regarding this. i read in a srisri book regarding this. i will post a link once i find it online. | ||
| Simpletruth Comedian Username: Simpletruth Post Number: 1002 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 66.239.163.31 Rating: N/A |
this is beacuse most of the rulers are not native telugu people. Just like medieval era, aristocracy spoke sanskrit , pali langugaes where as common man spoke telugu. First King started patronizing telugu is rajarajanarendra (east chaukya king) in 7-8 CE. thats why you dont see much of written telugu prior to this period. Sanskrit and pali has lot of influence. when nannayya wrote, he used 75% sanskrit and 25% telugu. when tikkana wrote he reversed usage. Telugu is a dravidian language. i think it was proved beyond doubt. | ||
| Okahyderabadi Comedian Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 1972 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 209.97.203.60 Rating: N/A |
actually it is said that Telugu derived from - Sanskrit and Prakrit and it borrows heavily from Sanskrit. To club Telugu and Tamil in the same etymology is not right In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Mario_puzo Side Hero Username: Mario_puzo Post Number: 2059 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 148.128.243.8 Rating: N/A |
deenikedanna proof unda link or book name?? | ||
| Simpletruth Junior Artist Username: Simpletruth Post Number: 1000 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 66.239.163.31 Rating: N/A |
Ruj, Madhurai kingdom has been out of clutches of muslim rule through out its history except for a very short span. They came under british control later. rest all kingdoms have been either subdued by force or by marriage once upon a time by turkish invaders | ||
| Okahyderabadi Comedian Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 1971 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 209.97.203.60 Rating: N/A |
look up trilinga In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Simpletruth Junior Artist Username: Simpletruth Post Number: 999 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 66.239.163.31 Rating: N/A |
based on what i read he is tulu. we just own that empire as ours. it is clearly evident that he is a non-telugite. since kings used to marry women from different kingdoms, he might have bloodline linked. we cannot claim him as telugu king | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 16651 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 155.94.62.222 Rating: N/A |
ROMing sestunna .. nee lekke .. last eek .. long eekend kada .. trip ki ellaanu .. malli ee week&nest lo 10 days going .. so ROM prefer sestunna ! "To be born free is an accident. To live free is a privilege. To die free is a responsibility" - Indian Army | ||
| Ruj Side Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 2691 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 132.189.76.18 Rating: N/A |
ujless..emayipoyav last eek..all mixie nen ninnu edho sesesan antu pukarlu puttinchad.. Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat | ||
| Ruj Side Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 2690 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 132.189.76.18 Rating: N/A |
vijayanagara empire was founded by harihara and bukkaraya..there r reference which mention that these two guys used to work in the treasury dept of kakatiyas our telugu kings..once kakatiya empire got demolished..these two people moved on and established their own empire.. krishna devaraya is considered to be a tulu..but there r tons of references which mention him to be a telugu..infact he himself wrote that in one of his literary works..that he has telugu roots.. Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 16650 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 155.94.62.222 Rating: N/A |
rujjai .. enta edigi-poyaavayyaaaaaaa ..  "To be born free is an accident. To live free is a privilege. To die free is a responsibility" - Indian Army | ||
| Simpletruth Junior Artist Username: Simpletruth Post Number: 998 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 66.239.163.31 Rating: N/A |
Vijaya Nagar Emperors are of Tulu origin. They have close marriage links with telugu but cannot be claimed as andhra kingdom. TDP :-) | ||
| Ruj Side Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 2689 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 132.189.76.18 Rating: |
krishnadevarayalu was called andhrabhoja..not rayalaseema bhoja.. pothana born in warangal wrote andhrabhagavathamu..not telangana bhagavathamu.. appatiki telangana,rayal seema anna terms ee levu.. kakatiyas called themselves as andhradesa rajulu..not telangana desa rajulu.. during kakatiyas rule..perini shivatandavam and andhramaha natyam came into existence.. these mogo politicians are completely distorting history for their selfish gains.. andhra doesnt mean krishna godavari nellore.. Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat | ||
| Ruj Side Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 2688 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 132.189.76.18 Rating: N/A |
more to add.. there are `1000s of literary references, inscriptions related to the tribe and language called andhra..ikkada andhra ante coastal andhrolu ani kaadu..our entire telugu race was refered to as andhras..rayal seema telangana avi anni last 400-500yrslo vachinavi.... right from mahabharatha to satavahanas, kakatiyas and vijayanagar empire telugus were refered as andhras..there r inscriptions found in karimnagar warangal related to term andhra and its history..again andhra ante guntur godavari kaadu mahaprabhoo..it means telugu race.. telugu anna padam kanna mundu andhra anna padam prachuryamlo undedhi..telugu was called andhrabhasha..telugu is relatively new term.. and then there r also couple of references,very few, found in our literary works..which mention abt telavanas, telingas....is this a diff name for andhras?? not sure..does this refer to today telangana people? not sure..no enough proofs.. then when did this term telangana come into picture.this came into picture..after nizam rule..under nizam rule entire telugu speaking region(including todays coastal n seema) was referred to as telangana..and then coastal was sold to french -> british(called as circar).. seema was sold to british(called ceded)..this is where our telugu clan which was previously called andhra..and then telangana(for few years)..was divided into nizam hyderabad, circar, ceded..politicians used this division to the fullest extent..and.as a result we are now being refered to as telangana,coastal andhra and seema.. in reality we all are andhras(95% probability) or may be we had 2 races..andhras and telavanas(5% probabability).. nen cheppindi vedam..idhe correct ananu kaani..naa interest koddhi last 1yr ga online various articles avi chadivaka naaku ardham ayyindhi idhe.. Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat | ||
| Simpletruth Junior Artist Username: Simpletruth Post Number: 997 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 66.239.163.31 Rating: N/A |
In mahavharat, our ancestors fought alonside kauravas. you can see we always have special liking towards indraprasthan rulers even today:-) | ||
| Scorpio Junior Artist Username: Scorpio Post Number: 307 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 12.193.27.158 Rating: N/A |
There is only one native andhrite to establish kingdom is Kakateeyas// Vijaya nagar empire.. Telugu Desam Party.. | ||
| Proline Side Hero Username: Proline Post Number: 4952 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 70.166.149.162 Rating: N/A |
Jesus F Chirst | ||
| Simpletruth Junior Artist Username: Simpletruth Post Number: 995 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 66.239.163.31 Rating: |
Andhra tribe is mentioned in scholar & religious texts as early as 8 BCE. Andhra tribe used to stay on banks of godavari in settlements First known capital is kotilingam in karimnagar. (Whn KCR & pro-telanganites hates andhra word, they are hating thier roots only. pity) Andhra tribe sided with kauravas in the fight. There is only one native andhrite to establish kingdom is Kakateeyas.Rest all kings are fuedatories to an empire or supported/installed by outside kings. Very weak history compared to our dravidian brothers such as tamilians, kannada). East chalukya kings are the first one to encourage or start using telugu as official text around 7-8 CE. They are offshoot of karnataka bretheren western chalukyas Golconda kings and Nijams bastardized telugu language with urdu words. KCR & group of cronies it seperate langugae telangana. pity. Order of language evolution is tamil, kannada, telugu and malayalam in dravidian sector Post more info if you have. |
