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Kalikaalam
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Username: Kalikaalam
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// belief is purely an individual matter, and you cannot and must not organize it. If you do, it becomes dead, crystallized; it becomes a creed, a sect, a religion, to be imposed on others //
This is what i am trying to say.(please note that i did not read Jiddu krishna Murthy. I tried to follow his audio casette,but could not understand what he is trying to say) |
Kalikaalam
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anadariki,
asalu okaru inkokari ki prove cheyyalsina avasaram ledu. Yevari ki vaallu 'feel' ayithe saripothundi. yevaru yedi 'feel' ayithe ade correct. feeling anedi mi sontham. Mimmalni miru mospuchukoni feel avaleru kadaa??
Naa persona feeling: anand cheppaaru--" Hindu matham anedi logic mida, questioning mide develop ayyindi . Kaani yi roju hinduvullo vunna chaadasthaanni Hindu mathaani ki antakatta kudadu" ani. Kaani aa mathaanni follow ayye vaalla ku aa qualities vasthunnaayi ante..'some thing is worng with that religion" ani anipnhcadam ledaa??.
aacharana ku paiki raani aa mathaanni pattuku velaadatam ardha rahitha kaadaa??"alaa kaadu..matham loki velli nuvve researech chesi nuiku kaavaalsindi nuvvu pattukovaali" ante..adi mana sontha 'research' and 'feeling' avuthundi kaani matham goppa thanam avvadu kadaa??
Bottom line: all organiged religions are bad to the 'evolvement of human consciuosness'. forget about the religions and start your own inner search. One day or other day, you will find the truth. Evne if you don't find any thing, that is worth rahter than follwing the religon like a puppet. |
Anand_n
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Dinosaur,
/**Subject choosi ma ooru kadu anukunna...
matter chusina taruvatha... Anand, Unortho, JKm, Nihil, Iamim ... Prakash Raj style lo anukondi... matter chadavatanike chala time pattindi.. **/
LOL - maku andariki konchem length lo rayatam alavatu - chadavataniki patience kavali 
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
ik aise gagan ke tale
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related
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Dinosaur
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Subject choosi ma ooru kadu anukunna...
matter chusina taruvatha... Anand, Unortho, JKm, Nihil, Iamim ... Prakash Raj style lo anukondi... matter chadavatanike chala time pattindi.. chadivindi ardham chesukotaniki time pattindi... ardham ayina taruvatha, mee andharaki ee Chiru kanuka
Anand babai ki inkoka
for his "Faith provides a wonderful security blanket...Children with good parents are happier than orphans even if their material needs are met on par- idi alage" |
Jkm
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A belief is purely an individual matter, and you cannot and must not organize it. If you do, it becomes dead, crystallized; it becomes a creed, a sect, a religion, to be imposed on others
- Jiddu Krishnamurthi |
Jkm
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this is what i am thinking right now.
if you prove the belief system, it becomes science. devathalu prayaninchina pushpaka vimanam lo ippudu manavalu thiruguthunnaru.
if you can't prove it, it becomes religion. because it is belief. nammakam. niroopinchadaaniki veelu kaani satyanni nammakam antamu anukunta.
religion or GOD is believing in something which guides you. something super natural. that means there is some one else who is not among us (humans) has got more powers than us. people listen to unknown boss.
I am in trouble. I can not solve my problem. I say god please help me. actually some people ask for god's help to debug java code to fix a simple defect. if you laugh at this then you are rationalist too. right now my entire family believes in shirdi sai baba. they say they see baba in their dreams. foot prints on floor. my sister had sent me some pictures of those foot prints. I don't know may it is just me. I do pooja every morning after taking bath. i have shirdi sai baba photo in my car. still my mind is full of rational thoughts. may be because of the crowd infront of temples in india. beggers, shop keepers, pujaris, temple management and the entire system. or i am confused. iamim says people like me are dissidents in religion. more dangerous than muslims and christians.
This is what i always think about religion. we need religion. religion keeps people under fear so that they don't commit sins in a democratic country. or else you need a communist country . dictatorship. look at china. 90% atheists. full of jobs. divorce rate is low. iamim what is your opinion on china ? jobs ki religion ki link pettava ? russia lo vunde scientists ela job chestunnaru ?
meditation peace of mind istundi. adi devudi mundu cheyyochu. leda samudra theeram lo cheyyochu. bhagavadgeetha, khuran, bible loni manchi vaakyalu law enforcement lantivi. bhagavanthudu prabhuvu chakravarthi. avi paatinchamani prabhuvu chebutharu. intha sodi cheppa kunda iamim babai simple ga devudu cheppadu cheyyali ante easy ga ardham avuthundi prajalaki.
nannadigithe devudini nammandi nammka pondi. adhi mee istamu. nammadam valla jobs vasthayi ante nammandi. nammaka poyina china lo vallaki jobs vastunnayi. interview ki velle mundu devuduki namaskarinchi veltha. adi naa nammakam leda bhayam. job vachinappudu namaskarincha. ranappudu kooda namaskarincha. nenu prasthutham job chestunnanu. rational thinking vunna job ki, routine personal life ki eppudu problem raaledu. deni pani daanidhe iamim. chrsitmas rojuna kooda work chestharu maa office lo. nuvvvu chadivina aa article Mike Huckabee raasuntadu. |
Anand_n
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Unortho ,
Emiti difference ...can you explain ?
Kanipinchinde complete truth anukunte people would not have moved past the geocentric model of the universe I can see the sun move around the earth - so that should be the truth shouldn't it ?
Logical thought insists each entity is discrete and cannot impact another without communicating with it...makes scientific sense...
but quantum physics has proven otherwise - that entities are connected and can impact each other though totally disconnected from each other
Scientific theory ? or validation of the interconnectedness of the universe propounded by the spiritual thought ?
Read this article - is it science or spirituality ?
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dp5/jse.htm
Scriptures talk about telepathy, time,space travel and many other theories - its taken science thousands of years to prove them now.. does that mean those theories were false before science proved them ?
The fact that we cannot verify something with our current toolset does not preclude its existence
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
ik aise gagan ke tale
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related
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Unorthodox
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Anand_n:Theories are propounded all the time in Science too and proofs come later
scientific theories ki... Dwaita , Adwaita and Vishishta Advaita laanti theories ki chaalaa tedaa undi...
None of the after life theories can be proven...
Cinema for the larger audiences can not be poetic--Andrei Tarkovysky |
Anand_n
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Unortho,
Hinduism- the religion itself encourages questioning and criticism - Upanishads are written in a debate format Its another thing that modern day people do not tolerate questioning - that's not the fault of religion...
Theories are propounded all the time in Science too and proofs come later
Within Hinduism , Dwaita , Adwaita and Vishishta Advaita have different theories of God, soul and propagation - there is no diktat that you have to believe in any one of them If there was no room for questioning all these theories would not co-exist...
Questioning in the early days is what gave rise to atheistic religions like Buddhism, Jainism and Charvakas
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
ik aise gagan ke tale
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related
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Unorthodox
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Anand_n:It is when this institution closes itself to questioning/criticism and the collective ego manifests itself that we have problems ...
The moment you are beleiving...you are blind...which religion can take criticism???
Let's take 'transmigration of soul'...does hinduism accept the criticism that it does not exist and needs to be proven???
When someone asks this...beleivers coneveniently bring in the word 'beleif', which they say is beyond reasoning...
My simple question is why a religion is preaching something....that can't be verified...
You see a person taking birth and eventually dying, two undeniable facts...we do not know what happens after we die, no body knows...then why do you preach that there exists another world after your death and cheat gullible people...
Religion is absurd since it lives on gullibility of people...
I am talking about the basic essence of a religion...not about the advantages that come with religion...
Cinema for the larger audiences can not be poetic--Andrei Tarkovysky |
Anand_n
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Unortho,
/** in the end any religion is an evil and a step backward...**/
Religion is not evil, intolerance is
All religion does is provide an institution and community for a common set of beliefs ...
It is when this institution closes itself to questioning/criticism and the collective ego manifests itself that we have problems ...okappudu IB lo manchi discussion chesamu
And this is true of any institution , whether it is caste , or even fan groups like the ones we see here or in IB - do you think the people here would indulge in the kind of abusive behavior if they were not the part of the collective fan club?
By that token any collective should be called evil , don't you think ?
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
ik aise gagan ke tale
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related
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Ludacris
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God is a made up thing started in old days to create fear among the evil doers. Ramudu, Allah, Jesus etc. are neither Gods nor Gods messengers. May be a little too nice people at that time or never existed. |
Anand_n
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Zulu,
/**Very Simple. You create a fictional charecter, you have the responsibility to prove it.**/
LOL- I did not create the character - I believe in it - if I am not trying to make you believe in it I have no responsibility or inclination to prove it to you
You can challenge the beliefs - but if you are initiating the challenge the onus is on you to disprove
/**If you believe that This is your one life, and only one chance to be happy, you will actually be more happy. **/
Glad you believe that and are more happy than us believers
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
ik aise gagan ke tale
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related
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Zulu
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Anand_n:I don't see any believers trying to convince disbeliever that God exists - they are at peace with their beliefs ..
Oh Really!
Anand_n:I see a lot of disbelievers asking for proof that he exists ...meeku kanapadaledu , meeru nammaru - why do you need others to validate that for you ?
Very Simple. You create a fictional charecter, you have the responsibility to prove it.
"Meeku Kanapaledu, meeru nammaru" - Ante enti meeku kanipinchada?
Non-believers challenge the beliefs of beliviers only when society is threatened with illogical beliefs of the believers.
Anand_n:AS to why believers are happier and better equipped to deal with adversity - there is a simple psychological basis for that
Faith provides a wonderful security blanket...Children with good parents are happier than orphans even if their material needs are met on par- idi alage
Inthuloo kontha comedy undi. What is faith? You dont jump off a cliff and hope that your God will save you. Right? Same way emaina aithe rakshinchadaniki devudu led ani 24X7 non-believers badha paduthoo koorchoru}
If you believe that This is your one life, and only one chance to be happy, you will actually be more happy.
E janma lo punyalu chesi next janma lo happy ga undam anukune vallu ela happyga untaro naku artham kadu
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Unorthodox
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Iamim:Most probably it is just magic...
This explains the way you look at it...you probably never asked the question as to whether a human being can display occult or super natural powers, most likely because he is partly uphelding the sastras of sanatana dharma...
He is not a godman...that's well known... he is not even a magician...he is a cheat...
Iamim:As we see from such studies.. Theism leads to satisfaction and contentment and happiness.. rationalism on the other hand is the work of sub-normal or abnormal brains.. those who rebel and think out of box.. no wonder they end up out of box...
I disagree...vesina baatalu savyangaa unnappude, manishi mastishkam lo aakaasam lo viharinchaalane aalochana, alajadi kalagaka pote...ee rojukee aatavikangaane unde vaadu manishi...
manishi tanachuttu vunde saktulato jaripe, salipe...poraatame...alajadi...jeevitam..asaanti...
Asaanti lo nundi saanti, contentment, happiness pudataayi....
Iamim:Absolutely right.. I am not holding a torch for anyone though we cannot say that prostitution is done by theists.. if everyone minds their own business no problems arise.. but atheists/rationalists dont mind their business.. that is the problem.. Hindus unlike muslims or xians do not say that non belivers will go to hell blah blah blah.. Hindus do not go about converting people by hook or crook.. Hindus being a majority in India still mind their business.. still they become a target for the atheists/rationalists...
I see more hypocrites in theists...oka koti crime money lo...oka 10 lakshalu tirupati hundi lo esi...papam kadigesukuntaaru...
A rationalist who knows only hinduism can only attack hinduism....that has got nothing to do with a special hatred towards hinduism...
Hindus may not force proselytization...and may be slightly better than other religions...and in the end any religion is an evil and a step backward...
Cinema for the larger audiences can not be poetic--Andrei Tarkovysky |
Kalikaalam
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Anand's 186 post ki 5 stars. |
Anand_n
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Pavala,
Yep Quit kadu but very rarely opening the DB - Ratri freerice.com link veddamu ani open cheste ee thread kanipinchindi
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
ik aise gagan ke tale
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related
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Pavala
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Anand_n:
Pinni...Howdy? SWOT chesi quit sesaaraa....
nenu yenni saarlu try sesinaa naa valla kaatam ledhu...andhukey reduce sesaa...keeping with some other stuff to keep myself busy in the day time and then synchronize US times for DB.....
My favourite Uncles in DB: TT, Kish, Kkd, Edle, Savage, Guruji, Maverick
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Telugu_times
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Children with good parents are happier than orphans even if their material needs are met on par- idi alage >>>
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Anand_n
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Zulu,
The concept of God has evolved over a period of time ... the need to disprove it is more evident in the disbelievers... I don't see any believers trying to convince disbeliever that God exists - they are at peace with their beliefs ..
I see a lot of disbelievers asking for proof that he exists ...meeku kanapadaledu , meeru nammaru - why do you need others to validate that for you ?
AS to why believers are happier and better equipped to deal with adversity - there is a simple psychological basis for that
Faith provides a wonderful security blanket...Children with good parents are happier than orphans even if their material needs are met on par- idi alage
And the principles of continuity of soul , oneness with the universe bridge the existential conflicts of being human ... Mahesh's essay in Nihil's post touches on these points quoting Camus, Fromm and others
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
ik aise gagan ke tale
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related
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Telugu_times
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People who believe in God are happier than atheists, researchers claimed yesterday >>>>
Iamim
eee prapancham lo, thurakollu almost 100% devudi ni believe chesthaaru. They are the most restless people in the world. |
Kalikaalam
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//Ignorance is bliss ani oorike analedu, May be thats what makes the believers more happy//
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Telugu_times
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Topic which religion is better or more tolerant ani kadu. >>>
I know baba. naasthikulu, only certain countries lonay endhuku recchi pothaaru ani. Infact, you are the one who gave example of majority and minority in India (hindu) and usa(christian). Nenu saudi/afgan lo majority evaru ani adigithey, which religion better, not better kaadhu antunnaavu
so nee bottom line is: Naasthikulu soft majority ni choosi recchi pothaaru, offensive majority ni choosi moosukkurchuntaaru. anthenaa? |
Zulu
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Iamim:People who believe in God are happier than agnostics or atheists, researchers claimed yesterday.
Yeah Yeah. Idela undante, divorse rate is less thuraks. So let us all convert to tharuka religion analedu.
Ignorance is bliss ani oorike analedu, May be thats what makes the believers more happy
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Zulu
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Telugu_times:veella gurinchi naaku anthagaa theliyadhu. konchem light veyyi zulu. what they did and where they are hiding now oops living now
TT, You are again making it Hindu Vs Muslim thread again. Topic which religion is better or more tolerant ani kadu.
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Zulu
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Anand_n:Depends on who wants to prove their theory to others- Existence/non-existence can both be argued - who's right annadi decide chese capability evariki undi ?
Non-existence is not a standalone concept. Non-existence anedi existence ki opposing concept..
Do you think atheists would be saying "There is no God", If there isnt a concept of God at all?
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Telugu_times
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Taslima, Salman Rushdie etc.. >>>
veella gurinchi naaku anthagaa theliyadhu. konchem light veyyi zulu. what they did and where they are hiding now oops living now |
Zulu
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Telugu_times:zulu annai,
oka saari saudi arabia, afganisthan lo, majority group meedha attaaak seyyi annai
Evaru cheyyaledanu kunnava? There are a few people who do that. and, they do that against the Majority religion(Islam) there, anthekani akkada Hinduism meedo..vankayismno evadu attack cheyyaru
Taslima, Salman Rushdie etc..
Anyway topic is not about which religion is better. Atheists/Rationalists ante double standards ane coloring baga isthunnaru ikkada. That is not the case..They attack the religion that is more prevalent,because they a major portion of the society. Eay country lo anna anthe..prove me wrong!
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Telugu_times
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psedo secularist zulu jump zilaani  |
Kalikaalam
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//UG Krishnamurthi is not Jiddu Krishnamurthy //
Oh..Ok..I am sorry for that.
yes. You are right. That is unique experience to Budha. Budha can not share with you. The moment he "tries" to share, the quality has gone... |
Anand_n
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Kalikaalam,
UG Krishnamurthi is not Jiddu Krishnamurthy
The story goes like this - he pledged coconuts to Hanuman(mokku) if things go his way. After his wishes were granted he did not keep his end of the bargain. But he had no negative effects /retribution from Hanuman for his default. Hence he derived that Hanuman does not exist..
Truth - Budha saw it anatam kuda faith isn't it It is defined by personal experience ...like you said in Osho's quote - even Gurus don't define what you will feel cos it is very unique to the person
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
ik aise gagan ke tale
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related
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Kalikaalam
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//there won;t be any prostitution in Tirupati... //
i did not see any relationship with theisim an dprostituion. some thing is wrong on the priciples of the society itself. Sex is the need of the body. That is pure biological. It is like tool .You can use it to for love or for lust. theist or atheist ..nobody can eliminate the body needs. They can suppress it.
suppression of sex in the society as a whole is the result of "prostitution" |
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//Does anybody know the complete absolute truth //
I think there are some people like budha and other mystics who found something and became silet. Osho once says "do not believe in any thing. You can feel some thing if you happens to see the perosn-'your guru'".
I think we can feel the gurus. |
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//For e.g. UG Krishnamurti decided there was no GOd because he did not get punished for not completing his mokku of coconuts to Hanuman //
I do not what Jiddu krishna Murthy is trying to say. My feeling with the above example: You promised (Mokku)to some one (weheter god/existance etc..) to do some thing. That is your moral responsibilty to fulfill that promise. If you don't do nothing bad will happen. The struggle (it might be mild) you felt (whether to give mokku or not) itslef is your punishment. |
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Zulu,
/**When someone comesup with a concept called "God", It is their responsibility to prove it. It is not the opposers responsibility to disprove it.It is impossible to disprove the existence of a fictional charecter.**/
Depends on who wants to prove their theory to others- Existence/non-existence can both be argued - who's right annadi decide chese capability evariki undi ?
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
ik aise gagan ke tale
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E Religion attack chesthe.. Target Society ki maximum benifit untundoo..a group ni attack chestharu. Minority religious groups ni attack chesthe, The benifit is limited to Minorities..As simple as that.
Ippudu Nihil vochi Aavu vyasam malli rasthadu >>>>
zulu annai,
oka saari saudi arabia, afganisthan lo, majority group meedha attaaak seyyi annai
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As we see from such studies.. Theism leads to satisfaction and contentment and happiness.. rationalism on the other hand is the work of sub-normal or abnormal brains.. those who rebel and think out of box.. no wonder they end up out of box... |
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'Believers are happier than atheists'
By Jonathan Petre, Religion Correspondent
Last Updated: 2:38am GMT 18/03/2008
People who believe in God are happier than agnostics or atheists, researchers claimed yesterday.
A report found that religious people were better able to cope with disappointments such as unemployment or divorce than non-believers.
Moreover, they become even happier the more they pray and go to church, claims the study by Prof Andrew Clark and Dr Orsolya Lelkes.
advertisementThe research, presented at the Royal Economic Society's annual conference, echoes academic studies that have found religion can improve people's sense of wellbeing.
Using data from Britain and Europe, the study found believers enjoyed higher levels of satisfaction and suffered less psychological damage from unemployment, divorce or the death of a partner.
However, it also found that religious people across Europe tended to be more socially conservative and opposed to Government intervention in areas such as employment.
Believers, for example, were less likely to look for a new job if they were out of work.
Countries with a more religious electorate had lower unemployment benefits.
The study, Deliver Us From Evil: Religion as Insurance, found that less than a sixth of churchgoers in Britain believe it is better to divorce than stay in an unhappy marriage.
The authors of the study said: "Religion tempers the impact of adverse life events." |
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Nihil:You are on the spot regarding the indian rationalists .
Even i wondered why these people are only after Hinduism and never after others like Muslims& Christians
Idoka rhetoric
Majority will always take the brunt, Prapancham ekkadaina anthe..
Do American atheists go after hinduism, buddism or jainism?..offcourse not. They target christians, because it is a christian majority country.
E Religion attack chesthe.. Target Society ki maximum benifit untundoo..a group ni attack chestharu. Minority religious groups ni attack chesthe, The benifit is limited to Minorities..As simple as that.
Ippudu Nihil vochi Aavu vyasam malli rasthadu
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For example, If i comeup with a term called "Bugaboo" >>>
zulu,
Obama is from Hawai. |
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Hindus unlike muslims or xians do not say that non belivers will go to hell blah blah blah.. Hindus do not go about converting people by hook or crook.. Hindus being a majority in India still mind their business.. still they become a target for the atheists/rationalists... >>>>
eee prapancham lo Manchiki viluva ekkada undhi? thuraka leaders, poddhuna lesthey, majority meedha edvadam, deshaanni inko saari divide chesthaam, peekuthaam ani black mailing. Gujarath lo Modi gaadi thannulaki, dhebbaki oka statement icchaaru. MINORITIES SAFETY IS IN MAJORITIES HANDS anta |
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Kalikaalam:I think Atheism is also the habitat of superstition. Okadru"God' ni guddi gaa nammuthunnaaru(yevaro cheppaarani0. inkokaru "No god" ane concept ni guddi gaa nammuthunnaaru. inkoka rakam gaa cheppaalante guddi gaa vyathirekisthunnaaru.
Indulo kochum comedy undi.
When someone comesup with a concept called "God", It is their responsibility to prove it. It is not the opposers responsibility to disprove it.It is impossible to disprove the existence of a fictional charecter.
For example, If i comeup with a term called "Bugaboo" and say that Bugaboo has magical powers and is in control of this world. It is My responsibility to prove the existence of Bugaboo, not the otherway around..
Think Global,Act Local |
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It seems Hemalatha has been cremated.. why did they cremate her?? |
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Good morning TT. |
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quote:Theists are hypocrites...if they are true to their souls...there won;t be any prostitution in Tirupati...
Theism is habitat of superstition...
Absolutely right.. I am not holding a torch for anyone though we cannot say that prostitution is done by theists.. if everyone minds their own business no problems arise.. but atheists/rationalists dont mind their business.. that is the problem.. Hindus unlike muslims or xians do not say that non belivers will go to hell blah blah blah.. Hindus do not go about converting people by hook or crook.. Hindus being a majority in India still mind their business.. still they become a target for the atheists/rationalists... |
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One many notice that these rationalists are only after Hindus.. turakollante uccha paduthundi.. xians ante gagga diguthundi...>>>
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quote:puttaparthy baba tricks meeda emannaa opinion undaa!!!
Most probably it is just magic... |
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Kalikaalam ,
/**Hethuvaadulu baaba la daggara ku cheradam, Bhakthulu naasthikulu avvadam chusthunte naaku anipinchedi yemitante??
Basica gaa vaalla ku yemi theliyadu. Okadu devudu ni nammuthunnaadu. inkokadu"devudu ledu" ani nammuthunnaadu. Idhari ki kuda oka nammakame aadhaaram. yi nammakaalu yeppudaina maarathaayi. yendukante vaalla ku authentic gaa vishyam theliyadu kaabatti..**/
Inkokka step further teesukuvellandi...
Does anybody know the complete absolute truth What you do know is your truth , your perception of it, which is an evolving entity based on your belief systems and your experiences ...
Oka manishi oka belief system to start ayyi when his experiences negate that belief system may switch beliefs completely or try to arrive at a compromise - its is a totally personal thing...
For e.g. UG Krishnamurti decided there was no GOd because he did not get punished for not completing his mokku of coconuts to Hanuman Another person would take is an a benevolent God who is forgiving of small misdemeanors
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
ik aise gagan ke tale
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related
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Kalikaalam:I think Atheism is also the habitat of superstition. Okadru"God' ni guddi gaa nammuthunnaaru(yevaro cheppaarani0. inkokaru "No god" ane concept ni guddi gaa nammuthunnaaru. inkoka rakam gaa cheppaalante guddi gaa vyathirekisthunnaaru.
We don't know if either is true, that's trivial in my opinion, because you can;t prove it either way...A rationalist need not be an atheist, he can be agnostic...
Rationalism definitely promotes scientific temper than the crowd mentality of visiting sundry babas...atleast it tries to probe in to happenings...
Puttaprthy baba ninnu mosam chestunnaa...you don;t apply your logic because of the extension of beleiving
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//Theism is habitat of superstition...//
I think Atheism is also the habitat of superstition. Okadru"God' ni guddi gaa nammuthunnaaru(yevaro cheppaarani0. inkokaru "No god" ane concept ni guddi gaa nammuthunnaaru. inkoka rakam gaa cheppaalante guddi gaa vyathirekisthunnaaru. |
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Iamim:One is the good old Brahmanism hating non-Brahmans who use Rationalism as a garb to unleash and vent out their pent up hatred..
The other is the self hating Brahmans battered by white guilt..
You are mistaking the revolt to frustration...
Theists are hypocrites...if they are true to their souls...there won;t be any prostitution in Tirupati...
Theism is habitat of superstition...
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Kalikaalam: daanini words lo express cheyyleka silent gaa vundipothaaranta
yes. mooga vadiki , pamurudiki cheppa galige, vraya daaniki sahaya pade medadu leka povachu. kani hrudayam talupulu terichi choosthe vivekam tho koodina maha kavyalu kanipisthayi. |
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JKM,
You are right on Nasthikathva Vs Hethuvaada.
kaani yi rojullo rendintiki border anedi chaalaa thin gaa vundi. anduke interchangable gaa vaadaanu. |
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//anni vishayalu thelisina vallu "leru". asalu ee vishayam theliyani vallu "leru". jagamantha andaru kontha thelisina valle.//
iid malli oka philosophical discussion avuthundi. Thamanu gurinchi thaamu thelusukonn vaallu ante Budhudu laanti vallu chaalla amndi vuntaaranta. kaani aa anubhuthi kaligina tharvaatha..daanini words lo express cheyyleka silent gaa vundipothaaranta.
Once agian this is my "nammkam" by some body's sayings. |
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Hethuvaadulu baaba la daggara ku cheradam, Bhakthulu naasthikulu avvadam chusthunte naaku anipinchedi yemitante??
Basica gaa vaalla ku yemi theliyadu. Okadu devudu ni nammuthunnaadu. inkokadu"devudu ledu" ani nammuthunnaadu. Idhari ki kuda oka nammakame aadhaaram. yi nammakaalu yeppudaina maarathaayi. yendukante vaalla ku authentic gaa vishyam theliyadu kaabatti.. >>
inko vidham ga kooda choodochu. nammakam mosaniki punadhi antaru. baba lani nammi mosa poyi baba lani tittochu. ellappudu bhagavanthuni dyanam lo vunde vallaki kooda poojalante virakthi kalagochu. nasthikulu (hethu vaadulu kaadu) kooda edo oka roju alochistharu. asalu jeevithaniki paramardham emiti. asalu bhagavanthudu ane vadu vunnada vunte ela vuntadu ani alochistharu. hethu vadam ante nasthikatvam kaadu. devudni nammi tarkikamga alochinchadam. prathi jeeviki ee tatvam entho kontha vuntundi. nammakam ediana ekkuva ayithe kastam. chinna jeevitham lo anni anubhavalu vundali ani namme vallu kooda vunnaru. anni vishayalu thelisina vallu "leru". asalu ee vishayam theliyani vallu "leru". jagamantha andaru kontha thelisina valle. |
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//jeevithantham poojalu chesi jeevithapu chivari ghadiyallo hethuvadulu ayina vallu kooda vunnaru//
Hethuvaadulu baaba la daggara ku cheradam, Bhakthulu naasthikulu avvadam chusthunte naaku anipinchedi yemitante??
Basica gaa vaalla ku yemi theliyadu. Okadu devudu ni nammuthunnaadu. inkokadu"devudu ledu" ani nammuthunnaadu. Idhari ki kuda oka nammakame aadhaaram. yi nammakaalu yeppudaina maarathaayi. yendukante vaalla ku authentic gaa vishyam theliyadu kaabatti.. |
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Iamim:ee Abraham India vaade.. Suri enti.. chala mandi so called rationalists end up meekly at Lord's feet.. like our grand old Karunanidhi.. Kaati pilustunte konchem senility perigi rationalism taggutundhi..
Aina.. emundi ee Rationalists gurinchi cheppadaaniki.. I mean Indian rationalists.. taadu bongaram original thinking leni emotionalists.. anthe..
They fall broadly into 2 varieties..
One is the good old Brahmanism hating non-Brahmans who use Rationalism as a garb to unleash and vent out their pent up hatred..
The other is the self hating Brahmans battered by white guilt..
One many notice that these rationalists are only after Hindus.. turakollante uccha paduthundi.. xians ante gagga diguthundi...
Iamim, nee knowledge choostunte neetho discuss cheyyalante naaku uchalu paduthunnati. andulo 100% hinduvulu vunna chota neetho discuss cheyyalante uccha tho patu nudita meeda chamata kooda karuthondi. hindu ayina nuvvu easy target ani nenu anukonu.
jeevithantham poojalu chesi jeevithapu chivari ghadiyallo hethuvadulu ayina vallu kooda vunnaru. sasthralu chadivi sriranga neethulu cheppi dommari dudiselaki velle vaari vishayam kooda manaki thelusu. veta gaadu valmiki gurinchi thelusu. bhatha kannappa kooda thelusu
2 type of people vuntaru. jnanam vunna manchi ki chedu ki vyathyasam thelusukoleni moorkhulu. taamu chesesedhi matrame correct anukone stubborns.
2nd type eduti vaari alochanali ki "kooda" viluva nisthu munduku saagi poye vallu.
ee vishayamu cheppalani naa vuddesam kaadu. endukante prajala mano bhavalu debba thintayi kabatti. oka hethuvaadi ila chepparu. "Bhayam Bhakthi rendu kalisi prayanam chesthayi". kontha mandi jeevithapu chivari kshanallo bhaya padatharu. kontha mandi jeevithantham bhaya padatharu.
bhayam leni bhakthulu chala mandi vunnaru. naa vuddesam lo valla kosam swarga dwaralu ellappadu theriche vuntayi.
manishiki soonyamu ante bhayam. jeevitham chivarilo manaki kanapadedhi soonyamu matrame.
rationalists are only after Hindus annavu. rationalist are after all religions. hindus madyana vunde vallu hindu rationalists. muslim madyana vunde vallu muslim rationalist. hindus gurinchi theliyani christian countries lo chala mandi rationalist vunnaru.
before christ and muhammad gouthama buddudu brahmanism(hinduism kadu) ki vyathirekamga alochinchadu. ofcourse rationalist kaadu.
Bangladesh muslim writer taslima ki muslims ante bhayam ledu , hindus ante bhayam anukovala ?
anyway nee posts choosthe naaku gokalanipistundi. gatha vunna bagundnu.
naaku ee post vrastunte chamatalu paduthunayi. ekkada sapisthavo ani. neekenti neeku swargam lo seat reserve ayi vundi. naa paristhithi emito mostly narakaniki velthanu.
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mimalni e tadu lo missing
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Nihil,
Malli cassette start chesava
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
ik aise gagan ke tale
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Unortho annai
Thanq for ur info & i will lookout for his books
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Iamim
You are on the spot regarding the indian rationalists .
Even i wondered why these people are only after Hinduism and never after others like Muslims& Christians
I guess its the fear factor as to go after them and easy to target Hindus as they are well known masochists ( u can also see this breed in the DB - LOL )
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