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     Diviseema Junior Artist Username: Diviseema Post Number: 120 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 59.163.89.119 Rating: N/A |
//Birth and Death...// birth is different... from person to person... and death ..what do u call as death  | ||
| Iamim Junior Artist Username: Iamim Post Number: 11 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 210.214.50.41 Rating: N/A |
Birth and Death... | ||
| Diviseema Junior Artist Username: Diviseema Post Number: 119 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 59.163.89.119 Rating: N/A |
//Belief// bhayya joke aaa... belief endhi.... konchem ardham ayyela seppu | ||
| Telugu_times Junior Artist Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 903 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 40.0.40.10 Rating: N/A |
can u tell me atleast one thing which is common thing to different people >> Belief | ||
| Diviseema Junior Artist Username: Diviseema Post Number: 118 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 59.163.89.119 Rating: N/A |
//God is different things to different people...// can u tell me atleast one thing which is common thing to different people | ||
| Telugu_times Junior Artist Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 902 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 40.0.40.10 Rating: N/A |
God is different things to different people...>>> Yes. For Kish, Tendulkar is God. For Rao gaaru, one baba in rayalaseema is god. it changes | ||
| Cylonesubbarao Comedian Username: Cylonesubbarao Post Number: 1370 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.61.20.242 Rating: N/A |
Well Said!  నేడేరా నీకు నేస్తమూ రేపే లేదు నిన్నంటే నిండుసున్నరా రానే రాదు ~ Veturi | ||
| Anand_n Junior Artist Username: Anand_n Post Number: 172 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Iamim, Doing good... /**God is different things to different people...**/ True or could be the same God is perceived differently by different people ...or God is a superset of all these perceptions about consciousness  Hsve to go aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale ik aise gagan ke tale http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related | ||
| Iamim Junior Artist Username: Iamim Post Number: 8 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 210.214.50.41 Rating: N/A |
Anand garu I am fine, hope the same with you. Kondaru neti-neti antaru.. mari kondaru teni-teni antaru.. God is different things to different people... | ||
| Anand_n Junior Artist Username: Anand_n Post Number: 171 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Nisarga, P,Q,O - that example assumes a manifest reality for O - Otherwise O is a collective/commonality of/between every individual's perceptions of O ... Iamim, How r u ? Call it by any name - I call it Consciousness, you give it a more scientific sounding name of "Magnetic breeze" - Point is neither you nor I can definitively state what it is ... Neti-neti ani anedi anduke kada aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale ik aise gagan ke tale http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related | ||
| Iamim Junior Artist Username: Iamim Post Number: 5 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 210.214.50.41 Rating: N/A |
TT saab bavunnara?? | ||
| Telugu_times Junior Artist Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 878 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 40.0.40.10 Rating: N/A |
iamim  | ||
| Iamim Junior Artist Username: Iamim Post Number: 3 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 210.214.50.41 Rating: N/A |
Ah.. some kind of magnetic power or invisible breeze.. danike devudu deyyam ante ela... | ||
| Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 5 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 135.245.104.33 Rating: N/A |
Anand, >>>> Nisarga, Good to see you here..., IB lo monna Rar kuda post chesaru:-) Irony is every time I get dejected enough with the content on DB to quit , someone starts an interesting discussion :-) >>>> Thanks. >>>>> ...if I do not have the senses to perceive the universe, does the universe exist ? And if it does , does it exist in the form I perceive it to ? >>>> Our beliefs apart, for metaphysical discussion.. ....from the perspective of perceiver the universe( world or rather lets say physical reality) is undefined without senses or perception mechanism.So what does the consciousness with its Transcendent power do?? what sort of reality it creates then? Why is commonality in our perceptions, at least in abstract things. To me this vindicates the objective reality whether it is created by consciousness or whatever. consider this example ( may be flawed....reality might be the underlying assumption here ) p and q are humans and there is an object O. p and q have same kind of perceptions and hence can understand each other. 1) if p then q and O 2) if q then p and O 3) if not q then ?? while case 3; for p, O is there despite the death of q. since p can still see the same reality as was there while q, the reality(q's reality) does not depend on q's existence !! ?? >>>Let's take a simple example... Do I see the color Red the same way you do ? Maybe not - you may see red the way I see blue but since we've been told what we see is called red, we use it as our yardstick/benchmark...perception vs reality - whose reality ? >>> This is the hard problem of consciousness put forth by Chalmers. I dont think this can be proved since it requires one to be able to experience other's experiences which is not possible I would feel. if at all we can, we may be able to understand it conceptually but not experientially. experiment: 1) locate the electrical activity of the brain when the subjects see blue. cannot say for sure if the experiences are the same even if the location is the same. . | ||
| Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 4 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 135.245.104.33 Rating: N/A |
I am not clear how his theory is different from idealism(dualism) though he claims his is monistic idealism. He does not deny the material reality and it's causal efficacy.He is not clear on how he reconciles the causal efficacy of matter and consciousness. he seem to believe only consciousness is responsible for wave function collapse concluding consciousness creates the world. any automated mechanical observer can also get the same experimental results in any quantum mechanical experiments. As far as I know any system at macroscopic level does not exhibit quantum phenomena. Not sure what sense he said human being is a quantum object! mental consciousness need not be the result of quantum mechanical effect as per current understanding. To me Aspect' results does not deny causality. not sure if Aspect's experiment is scalable and the hidden variable theory can completely be discarded. >>>consciousness is the ground of all being He should have defined consciousness clearly and the things like how he can base consciousness for his science. does formalize it or does he retain it's arbitrariness while doing his science. It may require to read his book, self aware universe, to understand him properly.but as of now he does not appeal much to me and sounds mediocre. | ||
| Unorthodox Junior Artist Username: Unorthodox Post Number: 475 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 151.151.73.166 Rating: N/A |
nuvvu cheppindi naakemi ardham kaaledu...opika unte layman ki cheppinatu cheppu...lekapote light....have a nice weekend...ippude office work ayyindi...poddutninchi only tea...mallee maattadadaam... saw your mail. Thanks for your tips...hopefully I will make it... Cinema for the larger audiences can not be poetic--Andrei Tarkovysky | ||
| Anand_n Junior Artist Username: Anand_n Post Number: 170 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.96.234 Rating: N/A |
Simply_rdb, Don't have a link ...email address iste I can send it to you aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale ik aise gagan ke tale http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related | ||
| Tagore Comedian Username: Tagore Post Number: 1841 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 68.196.94.27 Rating: N/A |
Nuvvu nenu endhuku ee threadloki god does exist eeyane mana god antaam  | ||
| Simply_rdb Junior Artist Username: Simply_rdb Post Number: 341 Registered: 05-2007 Posted From: 202.133.58.85 Rating: N/A |
link please | ||
| Anand_n Junior Artist Username: Anand_n Post Number: 169 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.96.234 Rating: N/A |
Simply_rdb, I read an article called "Evolution of God" which theorized on why the concept of God came into being in the minds of men Unortho, Cheppataniki try cheyyochu , but you need to suspend your disbelief long enough to try to understand cos you seem to think everything with the word God/scripture is a way to mislead/dupe people... Forget the word God if it bothers you and use Consciousness. You agree that it exists- right ? And it defines how you perceive your Universe ... Now if you extrapolate that existence of consciousness to everything in the world... The possibility that these consciousnesses can interact with /influence another in non-traditional communication modes - esp , sixth sense, intuition - cannot be explained by the theory of locality propsed by Einstein. The non-locality shown by Aspect's experiments proves the existence of an underlying or transcendental instantaneous communication ether in and between entities .. this layer is what I think is the common Consciousness of the Universe... That's the way I understand it That understanding will evolve with time too I think aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale ik aise gagan ke tale http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related | ||
| Simply_rdb Junior Artist Username: Simply_rdb Post Number: 340 Registered: 05-2007 Posted From: 202.133.58.84 Rating: N/A |
naku nache philosophy/ideology of GOD--there is nothing such as god but manam feel avutham like there is X we create a image in ourself and fall back on it to make ousself feel stronger which in reality we aren't,kani a non-existing image gives us the drive,aa drive when is looked upon by an outsider vadiki adi something beyond human capabilities anipisthundi--he thinks it devine blessing/power when the result is unbelievable,he thinks its will power if the results are expected[according to his view]---kani aa image create chesukunna person ki both are same he thinks its because of the god ippdu aa pai philosophy ni base chesukoni past ki velli science apply chesthunna like there is mighty kingdom,which rules the world[in the sense,like there are 1000 people at the begining],a king forms one such image,suppose aa king is sufferening from schizophrenia and he sees things,ante emi leni vatini oohinchukoni ade undani tanu mathrame chooda galaugu tunnadu so,since he is the king,HE CALLS THE hallucination IMAGE as X which is obayed by the people now according to the blue/red theaory posted here THE PEOPLE TOO BELEIVE THE EXISTANCE OF X,ippudu applying my above ideology/philosophy each person forms an image of his own and its called GOD aa scientific explanation is flawed but still,a viewpoint ilanti view ideology already unte lite  | ||
| Unorthodox Junior Artist Username: Unorthodox Post Number: 467 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 151.151.21.104 Rating: N/A |
atleast god ane oka entity ki evolution attribute chestannaaru...I meant it's not abstract
post peddadayinaa...detailed gaa cheppu... Cinema for the larger audiences can not be poetic--Andrei Tarkovysky | ||
| Anand_n Junior Artist Username: Anand_n Post Number: 168 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.96.234 Rating: N/A |
Unortho, /*mari idi science avvadu appudu...it will just be philosophy...metta vedaantam...*/ Ante intelligent design Science antunnara ? or you are equating the two ? It is a theory - and he is using rational,scientific methods to validate it...what's unscientific about that ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale ik aise gagan ke tale http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related | ||
| Unorthodox Junior Artist Username: Unorthodox Post Number: 465 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 151.151.21.104 Rating: N/A |
aa stage eppudo daatipoyndi...convince, confuse tarvaata...corrupt Cinema for the larger audiences can not be poetic--Andrei Tarkovysky | ||
| Eluri_kurradu Junior Artist Username: Eluri_kurradu Post Number: 56 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 12.207.36.63 Rating: N/A |
 Ekkado munigi ikkada tela | ||
| Zulu Junior Artist Username: Zulu Post Number: 193 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 99.128.108.215 Rating: N/A |
Ento E sodhi, If you cant convince, confuse type of undi. Think Global,Act Local | ||
| Unorthodox Junior Artist Username: Unorthodox Post Number: 460 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 151.151.73.166 Rating: N/A |
mari idi science avvadu appudu...it will just be philosophy...metta vedaantam... Cinema for the larger audiences can not be poetic--Andrei Tarkovysky | ||
| Anand_n Junior Artist Username: Anand_n Post Number: 166 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.96.234 Rating: N/A |
Unortho /*endo ee gola, point by point pettandi discuss cheyyochchu...how is his article different from intelligent design?*/ Intelligent design presumes a designer outside/external to the creation, whose intervention brought about the universe in it current form Goswami's theory is going with the Neti-neti principle of Advaita philosophy, Universe is God/Consciousness - more accurately God is the universe aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale ik aise gagan ke tale http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related | ||
| Bazooka Comedian Username: Bazooka Post Number: 1647 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 24.74.126.133 Rating: |
Congratulations enduku sepparu? Nuvvu Thanks enduku seppav? Naaku teliyaali... naaku teliyaali...>> konni anivarya karnala vallaa hater pavala yenkateshu babu fan kabothunadu dani gurinchi anukuntaa Jai Chiranjeeva | ||
| Cylonesubbarao Comedian Username: Cylonesubbarao Post Number: 1235 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.90.255.87 Rating: N/A |
Congratulations enduku sepparu? Nuvvu Thanks enduku seppav? Naaku teliyaali... naaku teliyaali... నేడేరా నీకు నేస్తమూ రేపే లేదు నిన్నంటే నిండుసున్నరా రానే రాదు ~ Veturi | ||
| Kalikaalam Junior Artist Username: Kalikaalam Post Number: 461 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.159.192.10 Rating: N/A |
idedo too complicated gaavundi. My openion: "Devudu ane vaadu ledu. Daivathavam ane quality vundi" ani feel avuthaanu. | ||
| Pavala Junior Artist Username: Pavala Post Number: 463 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.38.83.6 Rating: N/A |
Pinni...ippudu thanks..
Annai...thanks... Pavala - "Gold" card member and ardent devotee of "Telangana Baba" | ||
| Anand_n Junior Artist Username: Anand_n Post Number: 165 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.96.234 Rating: N/A |
Unortho , Nisarga is in India so will be contd. tomorrow...I hope aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale ik aise gagan ke tale http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related | ||
| Gemini Junior Artist Username: Gemini Post Number: 106 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 203.199.177.121 Rating: N/A |
pavala thammi Hearty Congratulations......  | ||
| Anand_n Junior Artist Username: Anand_n Post Number: 164 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.96.234 Rating: N/A |
Pavala, Ippude chusa -hotmail open chesi 4 days ayyindi - Congrats ! Will reply to the mail. aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale ik aise gagan ke tale http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related | ||
| Unorthodox Junior Artist Username: Unorthodox Post Number: 451 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 151.151.73.166 Rating: N/A |
endo ee gola, point by point pettandi discuss cheyyochchu...how is his article different from intelligent design? Cinema for the larger audiences can not be poetic--Andrei Tarkovysky | ||
| Pavala Junior Artist Username: Pavala Post Number: 459 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.38.83.6 Rating: N/A |
oka saari mail sek seskondi....yendhuku hurted no ardham avuddi  Pavala - "Gold" card member and ardent devotee of "Telangana Baba" | ||
| Anand_n Junior Artist Username: Anand_n Post Number: 163 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.96.234 Rating: N/A |
Sorry Pavala, generation gap issues Mee laga legs, hands, hair-pulling enjoy chese vayasu kadu aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale ik aise gagan ke tale http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related | ||
| Pavala Junior Artist Username: Pavala Post Number: 457 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.38.83.6 Rating: N/A |
okka saari gunde pai cheyyi vesukoni cheppandi why I hurt ani...meeku thelusthaadhi Pavala - "Gold" card member and ardent devotee of "Telangana Baba" | ||
| Anand_n Junior Artist Username: Anand_n Post Number: 162 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.96.234 Rating: N/A |
Enduku Pavala ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale ik aise gagan ke tale http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related | ||
| Pavala Junior Artist Username: Pavala Post Number: 455 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.38.83.6 Rating: N/A |
Pinni I hurt Pavala - "Gold" card member and ardent devotee of "Telangana Baba" | ||
| Anand_n Junior Artist Username: Anand_n Post Number: 161 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.206.96.234 Rating: N/A |
Nisarga, Good to see you here..., IB lo monna Rar kuda post chesaru Irony is every time I get dejected enough with the content on DB to quit , someone starts an interesting discussion Our scriptures put forth both possibilities " Men are nothing but the dreams of Gods" and also the converse possibility that " Men may not be the dreams of God, but rather Gods are the dreams of men " Read the prologue to the interview (will finish reading the interview and come back)and seems to be an extension of the second idea...I kind of agree with the theory - if I do not have the senses to perceive the universe, does the universe exist ? And if it does , does it exist in the form I perceive it to ? Let's take a simple example... Do I see the color Red the same way you do ? Maybe not - you may see red the way I see blue but since we've been told what we see is called red, we use it as our yardstick/benchmark...perception vs reality - whose reality ? Imanna, If you are Iamim, namaste aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale ik aise gagan ke tale http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUOI_oxeOc&feature=related | ||
| Razesh Side Hero Username: Razesh Post Number: 6046 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 117.195.162.188 Rating: N/A |
IF I DISOBEY GOD....It is God's Fault | ||
| Just4fun Comedian Username: Just4fun Post Number: 1258 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 24.131.225.94 Rating: N/A |
vastunna ilanti topics ante yama craz  | ||
| Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 3 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 124.125.212.205 Rating: N/A |
in essence,i think , Amit says that consciousness creates matter and he always depends on the non local nature of reality, based on aspect's experiments, to dismiss materialism. | ||
| Chantodu Junior Artist Username: Chantodu Post Number: 256 Registered: 07-2007 Posted From: 98.215.68.206 Rating: N/A |
nisarg tamud..nenu saduvuleni eddodini..pls short ga amith kurrod emi seppado sepava | ||
| Imanna Junior Artist Username: Imanna Post Number: 15 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 210.214.50.226 Rating: N/A |
Yeah God does exist.. but it means different things to different people... | ||
| Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 2 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 124.125.212.205 Rating: N/A |
http://www.wie.org/j11/goswami.asp?page=1 I thought of starting this thread in IB before i started the one on UG. i remember i had enough criticism on Amit but now I cant recall it completely. but i am sure that it (Amit's position) cannot lead anywhere. he will face the same problems or rather more than materialism faced to explain reality. interested parties can read and share their views. |
