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Maha
Junior Artist Username: Maha
Post Number: 2 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 70.156.210.150
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 02:47 pm: |
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Thanks |
   
Basky_indya
Side Hero Username: Basky_indya
Post Number: 7510 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 65.30.78.134
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 08, 2008 - 04:45 pm: |
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Maha:
welcome maha. all india Utter Flop Hero Fans UUUUth President |
   
Maha
Junior Artist Username: Maha
Post Number: 1 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 70.156.210.150
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 08, 2008 - 04:44 pm: |
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test |
   
Quantummorphed
Junior Artist Username: Quantummorphed
Post Number: 459 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 199.171.86.140
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, July 18, 2008 - 12:34 am: |
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Ok.......I will send it you.....give me ur mail ID....but may be 2morrow..its 12 here.... infact....if u have ever read Martin Gardner or 100 elementay problems of mathematics by Steinhaus.....they have this problem.. these class of problems are called pursuit problems...... |
   
Swayamkrushi
Junior Artist Username: Swayamkrushi
Post Number: 101 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 71.198.33.202
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, July 18, 2008 - 12:12 am: |
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babai..i want to know how u proved..can you pls explain me with diagram...ikkada kudarakapote ...send me a doc with little explanation ... |
   
Quantummorphed
Junior Artist Username: Quantummorphed
Post Number: 455 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 199.171.86.140
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, July 18, 2008 - 12:06 am: |
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coz speed is 1....nuvve ichavu "unit speed"...infact anything above 0.....will yield the same result..........that is exactly y its fractal...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
   
Swayamkrushi
Junior Artist Username: Swayamkrushi
Post Number: 99 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 71.198.33.202
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, July 18, 2008 - 12:04 am: |
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first of all...dt time unite ni...length 1 lonunchi ela teestavu? |
   
Quantummorphed
Junior Artist Username: Quantummorphed
Post Number: 450 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 199.171.86.140
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 11:48 pm: |
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I am super sure of it.........this is one of the proofs for constructing a log spiral with eccentricity 45 deg..... and the length in the limit n->inf that they each travel is l1..... I can bet anything on this........ |
   
Quantummorphed
Junior Artist Username: Quantummorphed
Post Number: 449 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 199.171.86.140
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 11:45 pm: |
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Swayamkrushi:Qantum babai..1 unit time is correct anukunta....okasari check chesuko...or inko sari nee logic cheppu
say u start with a square of unit size...say an infinitesimal time dt elapses...now what you have is a shrinked square of side 1-dt and the sides rotated by 45 deg. Now what is this new squares side: assuming the first side is L1....it is Sqrt((L1-dt)^2+dt^2) with L1 =1...... i.e Sqrt(l1^2 + 2*dt^2 - 2*dt*l1) using dt->0 .......the above is Sqrt(l1^2- 2*dt*l1).... using the binomial identity (1+x)^(1/2) is (1+ (x/2)) iff mod(x) < 1 The above is l1*(1-dt).... Now recurse : l1 = 1 l2 = l1*( 1-dt) l3 = l2*(1-dt) ln = ln-1 *(1-dt) i.e ln = l1 *(1-dt)^n since l1 = 1 ln = (1-dt)^n.... for all dt !=0...this is a strictly decreasing function....and approaches 0 in lmit n->infinity So the side length goes to zero only after infinite iterations............... |
   
Swayamkrushi
Junior Artist Username: Swayamkrushi
Post Number: 87 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 71.198.33.202
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 11:26 pm: |
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Qantum babai..1 unit time is correct anukunta....okasari check chesuko...or inko sari nee logic cheppu |
   
Basky_indya
Side Hero Username: Basky_indya
Post Number: 6071 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 65.30.78.134
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 11:24 pm: |
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8 new IIT in India. comments plzzz all india Utter Flop Hero Fans UUUUth President |
   
Quantummorphed
Junior Artist Username: Quantummorphed
Post Number: 446 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 199.171.86.140
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 11:22 pm: |
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Swayamkrushi:At any moment of time dogs will be at the corner of another square with smaller size and same center, size of square will decrease with time and finally they will meet at center. At any moment of time their speed toward center will be 1*cos(45) = 1/√2, and radial distance is √2, so they will meet after √2/ (1/√2) = 1 unit time and will travel unit distance.
This proof is wrong........it states they meet after 1 unit time............ |
   
Swayamkrushi
Junior Artist Username: Swayamkrushi
Post Number: 69 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 71.198.33.202
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 09:30 pm: |
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ya ..i did just like just4fun babai cheppinattu,, Quant babai..oka sari inter lo IIT coaching class lu gurthu chesav... I have one more puzzle for you guys..I will post very soon... |
   
Hp1
Junior Artist Username: Hp1
Post Number: 99 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 203.17.68.1
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 08:10 pm: |
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centre lo kalusthayani na uddhesham adhyaksha |
   
Quantummorphed
Junior Artist Username: Quantummorphed
Post Number: 445 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 99.141.75.30
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 08:10 pm: |
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This was the question that they asked me when I interviewed at Goldman Sachs... |
   
Quantummorphed
Junior Artist Username: Quantummorphed
Post Number: 444 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 99.141.75.30
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 08:08 pm: |
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easiest way is to recursively shrink ur square by dt and rotate it by 45deg...and keep ding it....u will see that corners of the shrunk squares will follow a Logarthmic spiral into the center of the center of the square....one needs to work out a geometric progression which eventually converge to 1 as n->inf... My recursive proof below is very stght fwd intuitively |
   
Kkd
Side Hero Username: Kkd
Post Number: 4787 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.196.116.154
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 08:06 pm: |
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Mclovin:vaallu unde very small square lo..
abbba chaa.... |
   
Just4fun
Hero Username: Just4fun
Post Number: 11261 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 24.131.221.241
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 08:05 pm: |
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At any moment of time dogs will be at the corner of another square with smaller size and same center, size of square will decrease with time and finally they will meet at center. At any moment of time their speed toward center will be 1*cos(45) = 1/√2, and radial distance is √2, so they will meet after √2/ (1/√2) = 1 unit time and will travel unit distance. |
   
Mclovin
Side Hero Username: Mclovin
Post Number: 6753 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 24.0.13.16
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 08:04 pm: |
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Asalu nenu kochhen wrong sadvinaa.. 4 corners lo oka dog, oka ant, two people unru ankunnaa.. lekunte eppudo cheppetonni.. apatki center la kalustaru ani cheppina... KKD: vaallu unde very small square lo.. lagethhi alasiponeeki neelaagaa 3miles lagettaru.. In this db, there's always someone watching you!!  |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino
Post Number: 4983 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 08:04 pm: |
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Kkd:lagethi lagethi evado okadu alisi aagipothadu thammudu...appudu andharu akkade meet avuthaaru....
babai....nuvvu ee company lo project manager em ledhu valla stocks kaana naa dhaggara untey ventaney ammesukunta |
   
Kkd
Side Hero Username: Kkd
Post Number: 4786 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 68.196.116.154
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 08:02 pm: |
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Swayamkrushi:At the same instant all of them start running with unit speed towards the person on their clockwise direction and will always run towards that target. How long does it take for them to meet and where?
lagethi lagethi evado okadu alisi aagipothadu thammudu...appudu andharu akkade meet avuthaaru.... |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
Side Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino
Post Number: 4982 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.95.150.205
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 08:01 pm: |
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Quantummorphed:
okkasari GOOD WILL HUNTING lo Matt damon ni choopichav babai...good one |
   
Razesh
Hero Username: Razesh
Post Number: 12088 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 202.153.41.36
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 08:00 pm: |
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Center lo meet avuthaayi... |
   
Hp1
Junior Artist Username: Hp1
Post Number: 96 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 203.17.68.1
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 08:00 pm: |
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nenu ippude thinking start chesa  |
   
Quantummorphed
Junior Artist Username: Quantummorphed
Post Number: 443 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 99.141.75.30
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 08:00 pm: |
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"they run infinite steps.......but cover a finite distance"......this is the beauty of fractal calculus..........One needs to have a sound understanding of measure theory to appreciate this stuff......... In fact this is a koch fractal of type 1 ...if I am not wrong |
   
Quantummorphed
Junior Artist Username: Quantummorphed
Post Number: 442 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 99.141.75.30
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 07:58 pm: |
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They will eventually meet at the geometric centre of the square after infinite (large number) of steps after they a follow a logarthmic spiral....there is a 4 way symmetry to this problem.... Use recursion to understand this and some infinitesimal calculus....assume that after the first run in an infinitesimal run...the square is now smaller with side length ~~ 1-dt where dt is the contraction in infinitesimal time dt(speed is 1)...recursively after "n" steps.....your squares length is (1-dt)^n. The number inside is between 0 and and will reach close to 0 as n->infinity.. They will def meet....... This is a "pursuit problem".........similar types exist for a triangle...any one who might have studied JEE physics will identify this immediately.... It is also called the fractal Zena's paradox..... The path they follow is a 45deg log spiral and on an avg all the dogs travel 1 mt.. |
   
Kadapanagfan
Side Hero Username: Kadapanagfan
Post Number: 4252 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 13.8.137.11
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 07:21 pm: |
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Swayamkrushi:There are four dogs/ants/people at four corners of a square of unit distance. At the same instant all of them start running with unit speed towards the person on their clockwise direction and will always run towards that target. How long does it take for them to meet and where?
square antey all side equal kabattiu and they are running with unit spped kabatti asalau kalavaru kadha........... |
   
Spy_india
Comedian Username: Spy_india
Post Number: 1566 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.35.224.64
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 07:20 pm: |
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Swayamkrushi:unit speed towards the person on their clockwise direction
anni same speed lo oek direction lo potunte okatini okati ekkada meet avutaay ?? |
   
Mclovin
Side Hero Username: Mclovin
Post Number: 6746 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 24.0.13.16
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 07:16 pm: |
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center lo kalustaaraa? In this db, there's always someone watching you!!  |
   
Swayamkrushi
Junior Artist Username: Swayamkrushi
Post Number: 68 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 159.145.7.90
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 07:13 pm: |
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I don't know but ninna naa friend okadu mail chesadu... |
   
Spy_india
Comedian Username: Spy_india
Post Number: 1565 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.35.224.64
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 07:08 pm: |
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msft questions aa ahaa ! vaalla interview lo ilaane adugutaaru questions |
   
Swayamkrushi
Junior Artist Username: Swayamkrushi
Post Number: 67 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 159.145.7.90
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 07:03 pm: |
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There are four dogs/ants/people at four corners of a square of unit distance. At the same instant all of them start running with unit speed towards the person on their clockwise direction and will always run towards that target. How long does it take for them to meet and where? babai lu ...meeku evarikina telisthe cheppandi...try before googling ..it will be fun solving (atleast to me)...naaku kaasepu juttu peekkunte vhachindi.... answer kanipedithe ..please explain... |