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Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2015 - 01:55 am:       


Jalsa:




Ledu naaku valupickr lo chese range analysis raadu, edo db varaku maatrame

Valupickr link pettandi

Valupickr lo mention cheyyagane every stock min 50% pruguddi adento asalu artham kaadu
 

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Posted on Saturday, June 27, 2015 - 09:02 am:       

Awara brother valyepickr lo kioda padindhi thaadu deeni meedha kothhagaa. Meerenaa vesindhi?
Only when the tide goes out do you discover who's been swimming naked - Warren Buffett
 

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Posted on Thursday, June 25, 2015 - 01:16 pm:       


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nursery kid ki books and stationery etc kinda 2000+ teesukunnaru


wow....
 

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Posted on Thursday, June 25, 2015 - 02:39 am:       


Vjawarrior:




almost anni schools ippudu same strategy

notebooks nunchi anni valla daggare teesukovali

nursery kid ki books and stationery etc kinda 2000+ teesukunnaru
 

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Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2015 - 05:25 pm:       


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Margin easy ga untundi

maa kid ki bachpan lo nursery ki around 30,000 charge chesaru

which my friends say is a lot cheap

so class ki 25 members 7.5 lakhs per one section

ala three sections unnai

ivi kaka lkg 3 sections ukg 2 sections

enta ledanukunna around 60 lakhs oka branch maata idi

teachers ki 10,000 istunnaru anukunna with 10 teachers (overestimating this)

still cost will be 12 lakhs per year

infrastructure etc vesukunna kuda chala migultundi

dressess books ani valla daggare konali, malli adi etc charges


wowo guru..superb business strategy idi maatram
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2015 - 11:04 am:       


Jalsa:




Margin easy ga untundi

maa kid ki bachpan lo nursery ki around 30,000 charge chesaru

which my friends say is a lot cheap

so class ki 25 members 7.5 lakhs per one section

ala three sections unnai

ivi kaka lkg 3 sections ukg 2 sections

enta ledanukunna around 60 lakhs oka branch maata idi

teachers ki 10,000 istunnaru anukunna with 10 teachers (overestimating this)

still cost will be 12 lakhs per year

infrastructure etc vesukunna kuda chala migultundi

dressess books ani valla daggare konali, malli adi etc charges
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2015 - 09:49 am:       


Awara1984:

Huge chunk of cash aithe undi invest cheyyadaniki expansion mida

how successful it will be anedi is a question mark as of now



Yes, margins are too good to believe :-)
Metro cities lo they already have significant presence and looks saturated with other players. Few other states lo Tier 1 cities lo expansion is possible with some profits.
Only when the tide goes out do you discover who's been swimming naked - Warren Buffett
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2015 - 09:47 am:       


Jalsa:




Huge chunk of cash aithe undi invest cheyyadaniki expansion mida

how successful it will be anedi is a question mark as of now
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2015 - 09:19 am:       


Awara1984:

growing middle class is slowly turning towards brands and brand names

vallu complete eliminate avutharu ani kaadu

but organized may have a better growth rather than unorganized ones



We need to see how can they scale in tier 2, tier 3 cities. Just hyderabad lo they have 34 locations!
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Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2015 - 12:44 am:       


Jalsa:




entering is easy sustaining may be difficult

growing middle class is slowly turning towards brands and brand names

vallu complete eliminate avutharu ani kaadu

but organized may have a better growth rather than unorganized ones
 

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Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2015 - 12:42 am:       


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chaala unnai

Mahindra vallavi Mom n Me ani unndai

kids dress aithe Lilliput etc
 

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Posted on Monday, June 22, 2015 - 02:14 pm:       

off topic, ee madhya babies and kids ki specific shops bagane vastunnai. shop peru marchipoya, nellore lo ne 3 branches vunnai. its a franchisee model.
 

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Posted on Monday, June 22, 2015 - 09:37 am:       


Jalsa:

We need to know how difficult it is to enter into this segment. Few education background unna valla tho advisory board petti, people can enter into this segment kadha?


montessory laanti vaatillo training teeskunna vaallatho pettochu ilaantivi.
 

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Posted on Monday, June 22, 2015 - 09:03 am:       

We need to know how difficult it is to enter into this segment. Few education background unna valla tho advisory board petti, people can enter into this segment kadha?
Only when the tide goes out do you discover who's been swimming naked - Warren Buffett
 

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Posted on Monday, June 22, 2015 - 09:02 am:       


Awara1984:



Looking at the link you gave, except kidzee no one else has a significant presence. Tier 1 cities lo almost saturation vachinattundhi and Tier 2 cities lo they can expand. But, local vallu chaalaaney unnaru bro. As I said, in our area (meaning one section of Miyapur for e.g) lo 3-4 unnaru. But, quality education demand will only pick up and people might look for seamless transition from pre-school to regular school.
Only when the tide goes out do you discover who's been swimming naked - Warren Buffett
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2015 - 11:52 pm:       

good thing is they will get fees first then they will have operating expenses
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2015 - 11:50 pm:       

http://education.sulekha.com/top-ten-play-schools-in-india_6 01423_blog

ee link prakram only Euro kids and Kidzee has more presence than this
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2015 - 11:48 pm:       

peers or competitors

http://www.startingfranchise.in/2013/07/top-5-preschool-fran chises-in-india.html
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2015 - 05:47 pm:       

http://www.treehouseplaygroup.net/pdf/Corporate_Presentation .pdf

pre-schools is primary business.
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Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2015 - 05:43 pm:       

I looked at their investor presentation - the margins are simply outstanding! I looked at their location near our place in hyderabad and found 2 other such centers. As more and more families are becoming nuclear and both parents working, their model of extending pre-school centers as day-care centers might work out. Even otherwise, quality education is an aspiration for many esp in tier 2, 3 cities/towns.
Major cities lo ne undhi significant presence like 31 centers in hyderabad out of 34 in telangana. Market size is pretty big - pre-schoolers are getting lot of courses now a days.
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Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2015 - 04:12 pm:       

Revenue and net profit are growing at 30%
Who are the competitors? future growth potential/plans enti?
Reputation ela undhi for schools?
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Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2015 - 12:03 pm:       


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yes schools now started day care operations
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2015 - 11:39 am:       


Awara1984:




sorry schools aa, nenu inka books and accessories anukunna.
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2015 - 11:37 am:       


Awara1984:




ee sector lo unorganized players are not going away ani naa idi.
sinapudu pustak mahal ,ttk lanti brands tappa emi kanpinchevi kaadu shops lo.

now there are 100s of players, in my last desam trip. anyways, its my view as a layman. fundamentals etc telidu
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2015 - 11:33 am:       

would like to see fellow dbers comments
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2015 - 11:33 am:       

I am not sure whether owning the schools on its own rather than through franchise model is a pro or con

easy to understand business
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2015 - 11:31 am:       

Cons:

Huge cash reserves without much deployment or dividend pay out

low ROE (due to huge reserves)
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2015 - 11:29 am:       

more than 30% growth in the last year also

margins have been improving
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2015 - 11:28 am:       

Pros as per me in accordance with book:

An organized player in the market of large number of unorgnaized players

Huge market potential and lot of space to grow

Good CAGR from the past 5 years

Operating margins near 50% and have been the same from past four years

already FIIs and few mutual funds invested in it
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2015 - 11:24 am:       

pros as per screener.in


- Company is expected to give good quarter

- Company has good consistent profit growth of 144.76% over 5 years

cons

- Promoter's stake has decreased

- Promoter holding is low: 29.75%

- Company has a low return on equity of 11.62% for last 3 years.

- Promoters have pledged 28.66% of their holding
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2015 - 11:23 am:       

wanted to compare the stock with what BM book have told about stocks
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2015 - 11:23 am:       

entered into the stock on friends advice at a price of around 240 rs

still holds it

investment in db terms is small but as part of my portfolio it is around 10%
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2015 - 11:16 am:       

https://www.screener.in/company/?q=533540#bs

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