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Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 05:49 pm:       


Lenin:



Arey malli
Give negotiated price with France for 36
Now after that France has to select offset partner
They selected adag. With our without adag proce is still same
May be you can make an argument that they pushed adag
But still does not change price
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 05:37 pm:       

CAG tho cook up cheinchaaada...one gujju for another!
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 05:30 pm:       


Brightlife34:




I am again telling the same...UPA could n't struck the deal means , you can argue what ever you want...

the clauses are not the same, not the offset partner ...you can insert n number of iffs and butts...

when you are going for a huge deal, what the govt should look at is other vendors who can manufacture fighter jets...it will give you a bargaining power

say go with Russia or Germany or with any other country


even the bank guarantee terms...I have never heard a govt acting as a guarantor for such kind of deals


light le...prove kadu emi , kani manassakshi anedi okati untadi ga, naku adi satisfy aindi

veedu power kosam mepe rakam sontham ga tinakapoina ani
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Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 05:20 pm:       


Lenin:



You have to just compare 18vs 36
Both cases offset partner needed
Both cases Hal will not get knowledge or r and d
Hal comes when bjp signs 108
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 05:14 pm:       


Teluguhero:




when you are in the govt and when the deal has not been fully materialized it's difficult prove ane chebthunna kada...am not batting for the point that 'corruption has been done' , but saying that there is a definite motive for the corruption is there


BJP can come out clean...but using CAG as an instrument in their favor, shows where they stand in this deal
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Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 05:12 pm:       


Brightlife34:

ut average pricing with better features was down from upa kada. inkem kavali




Yes..they are lower according to the numbers given by BJP govt

but not by considering all the parameters...India's specific enhancements anni UPA price ki prathi jet ki kalipite enthaina chooinchochu


is n't the enhancement a one off cost as the research and development is going to be in India
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Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 05:04 pm:       


Lenin:

vadu kooda corruption ledu antadu ga

lol...Corruption lo involve aina parties




Yes,Even your communist Hindu Ram also accepted that "there is no evidence of money transactions" in one of his articles recently.So last 5 years no scams or corruption allegations against Modi govt.Anti modi media also tried their level best ,but they didn't fine any evidence even after supreme court judgement.


Lenin:

What do u want me to read in this




You said why CAG sidelined HAL and reason is HAL is not in the offset business.

"The HAL CMD said that the company is not in the offset business. He said the company is into manufacturing of aircraft, and transfer of technology and production are not the same as offsets."
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 05:04 pm:       

it was never sidelined..yes, it's just a offset contract to be more technical//

first 18 in UPA lo kuda HAL was not supposed to be offset.
congress created confusion that hal was sidelined, because bjp did not go ahead with 108 flight contract with hal. because upa clubbed it as 18+108 adi avvalantey inko decade autundi
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 05:02 pm:       

so HAL was sidelined annadi wrong ani proven kada?
next why so fact antey our squadrons reduced in last decade and defense wanted 36 new ones, ippudu valladi tappu antava.
inka anil ambani antava, it was an open process, france selected.

anil ambani was favored or not no one will know, but average pricing with better features was down from upa kada. inkem kavali
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 04:58 pm:       


Brightlife34:

Hal was never sidelined




it was never sidelined..yes, it's just a offset contract to be more technical
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Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 04:57 pm:       


Brightlife34:

ow you either wait or go ahead ??
Obv our squadrons reduced and bjp went for 36 fly away condition crafts
Ippudu cheppu




and the terms are we can get this 36 planes , the first 18 anywhere between 36 to 53 months and the balance by 67months... the sense of urgency can be gauged with the delivery terms

and obviously the deal was struck after a meeting between Ambani and French defense minister
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Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 04:51 pm:       


Lenin:



Hal was never sidelined
Precious deal was 18 fly away condition flights plus 108 in jv with Hal
France is not keen in doing or transferring knowledge to Hal
Now you either wait or go ahead ??
Obv our squadrons reduced and bjp went for 36 fly away condition crafts
Ippudu cheppu
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 04:50 pm:       


Rajusk:




e rhetoric answer lu enti...CAG report comprehensive ga ledu ante

cheppa kada.like 2g and Coal..no one can prove this


kakapote Congress vallu desam ani thodal kottaledu, defense lo corruption cheyaledu meeku laga
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Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 04:48 pm:       


Teluguhero:




What do u want me to read in this piece of shi*..go and get some report released by French govt too..vadu kooda corruption ledu antadu ga

lol...Corruption lo involve aina parties, Govt kinda unde HAL chairman , latest ga absolute numbers and clauses lekanda percentages ni compare chese CAG report


just move on..I don't want to emphasize on corruption any time, BJP can wash its hands off quickly as the deal has not been materialized completely


BJP valla meeda fight cheyalante boledu unnai,,Rahul Gandhi pea brain ni koncham penchukovali
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Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 04:48 pm:       


Lenin:

why HAL was sidelines




khammunists ippudu Public Sector gurrinchi talking aa ..LOL

Singareni Colleries productivity maloom
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 04:44 pm:       


Lenin:

issues like why HAL was sidelines was n't mentioned in the CAG report




https://www.opindia.com/2018/11/rafale-deal-we-are-not-in-th e-off-set-business-says-hal-chairman-urging-politicians-to-n ot-bring-hal-into-this/

Rafale deal: âWe are not in the off-set businessâ, says HAL chairman urging politicians to ânot bring HAL into thisâ

Madhavan also informed that in the upcoming purchase of 110 fighter jets by India, HAL will have to be selected as a partner by any company that wins the deal.

At a time when Congress president Rahul Gandhi canât stop accusing that Narendra Modi government has âsnatchedâ a â¹ 30,000 crore offset business in the Rafale deal from HAL and given it to Anil Ambaniâs Reliance, HAL chairman has told that the company is not after such offset deals. In an exclusive interview with journalist Manu Pubby and published on the Economic Times, HAL chairman R Madhavan said that the public sector company was not a contender for offset business in the deal to buy 36 Rafale jets

The HAL CMD said that the company is not in the offset business. He said the company is into manufacturing of aircraft, and transfer of technology and production are not the same as offsets. While some offset business may come to HAL, that is not a priority for the company.

âIn fact, we are not even contending for the offsets. We do not plan, for example, to have a line to make a foreign civilian jet. Our prime business is manufacturing, not offsetsâ, he added. It can be noted that the Dassault Reliance joint venture, which is the prime target of Rahul Gandhi, is currently making parts for the Falcon business jet, which is a civilian plane made by Dassault.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 04:40 pm:       

When you can not present all the information, just obfuscate it

BJP is not as dumb as I think...way to go
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Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 04:38 pm:       

aa CAG chief is previously personal secretary to Vasundara raje anta ga. inka indulo vishesam emundi.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 04:37 pm:       


Brightlife34:




which part u found ok mate? without any absolute numbers...CAG has only compared the percentages...it's not comprehensive

and the issues like why HAL was sidelines was n't mentioned in the CAG report
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Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 04:36 pm:       


Lenin:

Modi unna Rafale deal scam ni tokki petti selective information tho report ippinchukunnadu at the time of elections




 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 04:36 pm:       


Lenin:




Lenin goru.

Google seyyakonda..mee Communist government in any state chesina Development oka 5 line items pettandi fleez..in last 25 years
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 04:34 pm:       

Can you explain scam to us?
I found it okay
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 04:28 pm:       

Congress vallu entha pichollu abba..

emi leni 2G Scam meeda negativity garner cheskunnaru, Modi unna Rafale deal scam ni tokki petti selective information tho report ippinchukunnadu at the time of elections
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