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Bumper Hero Username: Bumper Post Number: 14920 Registered: 07-2014 Posted From: 67.240.45.153 Rating: N/A |
Agree. But desam antha reliance chesthunaruu. beedi hatavoo desh batchavoooooo | ||
Pavala Legend Username: Pavala Post Number: 30725 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 165.225.64.60 Rating: N/A |
siggu paddaanu....inthakee scam enti? Ambani gaadiki ivvadam scam aa leka Modi or gang emanna de'saaraa leka quid pro quo emanna undhaa? lekunda scam scam ani aristhe emosthaadhi....same with Polavaram and all govt contracts manollaki ivvadam scam lanti argument aa Mahesh performance lo 10% kooda Chiru cheyyaledu.... - New_user Spyder - Critically acclaimed disaster - New_user | ||
Lazybones Junior Artist Username: Lazybones Post Number: 410 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 192.95.12.100 Rating: N/A |
siggu padu Pavala bro, cabinet committee on security norms bypassed, defence procurement procedure was not followed, countries biggest defence scam, ela support chestaav saami... anni vadhilesaav ga...  | ||
Pavala Legend Username: Pavala Post Number: 30723 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 165.225.64.60 Rating: N/A |
varnee manchi melikalu thiruguthunnav ga....HAL is 2.5 times more expensive to execute the main task...for that they are out of race....they clearly said we won't do offset contracts.... Mahesh performance lo 10% kooda Chiru cheyyaledu.... - New_user Spyder - Critically acclaimed disaster - New_user | ||
Pavala Legend Username: Pavala Post Number: 30722 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 165.225.64.60 Rating: N/A |
mana contracts annee manake mallee...question esthe nee dikkunna chota cheppuko anna adda golu vaadhana....pakkanodiki questioning  Mahesh performance lo 10% kooda Chiru cheyyaledu.... - New_user Spyder - Critically acclaimed disaster - New_user | ||
Mandharam Side Hero Username: Mandharam Post Number: 5051 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 157.49.153.50 Rating: N/A |
Raul Vinci APPA Bofors backdrop vunna family rafale ni scam anatam sithramu | ||
Teenmaar Side Hero Username: Teenmaar Post Number: 6804 Registered: 02-2011 Posted From: 24.185.158.48 Rating: N/A |
Modi or ambani should write an article explaining why this is not a scam evaro chepthe enduku nammuthaam ? no one believes | ||
Lazybones Junior Artist Username: Lazybones Post Number: 409 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 192.95.4.124 Rating: N/A |
MMRCA stands for Medium Multi-role combat air craft. It is a completely different category of fighter jets and is very different from Air superiority fighter jets like Su-30 MKI ( the Indian version of Su-30 and the most advanced, beating even the Russian version) , The F-15, The F-22 raptor. MMRCA was need to particularly replace the single engine MIG-21 and The MIG-27. The Indian project LCA was going no where. Thus a proposal to buy 126 MMRCA was floated. | ||
Lazybones Junior Artist Username: Lazybones Post Number: 408 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 192.95.4.124 Rating: N/A |
NDA Deal: This deal costs almost 8 billion dollars . Also people who are arguing that this deal has much more extra stuff than the previous Deal must go back and read the joint statement of the French PM and PM modi saying that the fighter jets in current deal will be of the same configuration as the previous deal. Now the question comes Why is congress making a big deal out of this? Is there a Scam? Lets look at some important points relating to current deal. 1. This deal is said to be PM Modiâs call, even the then Defence Minsiter Manhor Parikar was taken by Surprise . 2. This deal does not involve any kind of Transfer of technology as all the air crafts are being brought in Fly away condition 3. Involvement of Anil Ambani further strengthens congressâs case as his company was formed 12 days prior to the deal was announced. Coincidence? He also accompanied the PM to France when this deal was announced. Another coincidence? Lets look at Mr. Ambaniâs Track Record He has a very bad record when it comes to business. 9 Billion dollars in debt, Ran his Telecom Company into the ground and the only Defense connection he has is the Pipnav Shipyard which is late by almost 6 years in delivering the Offshore patrol vessels to the Indian navy. It is also believed his company Reliance Entertainment produced a film for then French PMâs Partner, another coincidence? 4. Other than Dassault no other company went for Anil Ambanis company, rather choose TATA, L&T who are much more experienced and involved in defense manufacturing . 5. The government has given given him the responsibility of maintaining the Jets and he will be paid 1 lakh crore for the entire life cycle of the Jets on top of Lions share of the off-sets | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 66546 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.248.22 Rating: N/A |
idi bold lo pettali | ||
Aggipidugu116 Side Hero Username: Aggipidugu116 Post Number: 4667 Registered: 07-2014 Posted From: 71.179.98.93 Rating: N/A |
Polavaram price entha 2012 lo ? Ade polavaram cost entha 2018 lo? TT's only can answer.. | ||
Lazybones Junior Artist Username: Lazybones Post Number: 406 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 192.95.4.124 Rating: N/A |
UPA Deal: 1. Buying a total of 126 aircrafts 2. 18 in fly away condition and the rest to be manufactured by HAL under transfer of technology . 3. The complete weapon suite except some add-ons from Israel 4. The deal initially cost 11 Billion dollars in total but went up to 15 billion dollars towards the end. lets say 20 billion dollars because of additions of weapons like MICA and meteor missiles 5. Dassault is not the only french company involved, Snecma ( makes the engine, Thales ( makes the radar), MBDA ( missile manufacturer). 6. Offset obligations were very similar to the PM modiâs deal | ||
Teluguhero Side Hero Username: Teluguhero Post Number: 2982 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 73.104.252.173 Rating: N/A |
Simple and straightforward still some people dont understand this logic https://www.opindia.com/2018/02/decoding-the-india-france-g2 g-rafale-deal-why-it-is-not-a-scam/ Exorbitant Price? The comparisons between the per unit price at which the NDA Government has signed the contract in 2016 and the per unit price at which the UPA government was negotiating the deal for 126 aircraft, are not at all tenable. Another reason why it cannot be directly compared is that the deliverables in the two cases are entirely divergent. The fact is that the approximate acquisition cost of the Rafale aircraft has already been provided to the Parliament. The total Rafale Deal Value is Euro 7.88 Bn (Approx Rs. 59,630 Crores), and here is the deal breakdown: Unit Cost: Euro 91.7 Mn (Approx Rs. 688.30 Crores) Per Aircraft x 36 = Euro 3.30 Bn Weapons including SCALP ALCM (Air Launched Cruise Missiles) and METEOR BVRAAM (Beyond Visual Range Air to Air Missiles) â Approx Euro 710 Mn Performance-Based Logistics Support â Approx Euro 350 Mn India Specific Enhancement (ISE) â Approx Euro 1.7 Bn Infrastructure (Creating world-class BASE level, maintenance operations, state of the art climate controlled hardened air shelters, maintenance support setups at both bases for both aircraft) â Approx Euro 1.8 Bn These costs are one-off and will not be incurred for any future batches. It also includes AMC of simulators for ten years and training of IAF pilots and engineers. The most significant drawback of the present Rafale deal is small ordering quantity; 36 against a total requirement of 189 units (126 + 63 units follow-on clause). It can be addressed by additional follow-on orders that, without any doubt, would benefit immensely from these new conditions. The 2016 deal is for highly advanced versions of the Rafale (F3+), highly customized to operate in Indian conditions, compared to the original MMRCA was for the F2 version minus any Indian specific upgrades. In the earlier proposal of the UPA Govt., which ended in a stalemate, there was no provision for transfer of technology but only to manufacture under license. Another point of departure from the original deal is that the NDAâs Rafale deal includes 50% offsets as opposed to earlier 30%. Furthermore, the NDA Rafale deal includes a comprehensive Performance Based Logistics (PBL) agreement wherein DA is legally obligated to assure that 75% of the IAFâs Rafale fleet is available for operations at any given moment in time. For comparison, in 2015 the IAFâs SU-30MKI fighter fleet had an availability rate of less than 50%. It is true that in the absence of a system of proactive disclosure of the defense deals have not helped matters and the procedural requirement is only to assess the reasonableness of the price quoted by the vendor. However, to form a definitive opinion about whether or not the price, in this case, is reasonable, it is essential to see how it compares with prices offered to other buyers. Qatar â The Rafale purchase price per unit including weapons, infrastructure, and training, but without country-specific enhancements. â Euro 262.5 Mn. Eqypt â In a similar deal for purchase of 24 Rafale fighter jets Egypt had to shell out 5.2 Bn Euros. Unit Price â Euro 216.7 Mn. Even if we include the one-off costs in case of India, the per unit cost comes to Euro 218.8 Mn. So, where is the price mismatch? 6. Why Reliance and not HAL? So, does it finally boils down to the selection of Anil Ambaniâs Reliance Defense (DRAL) as the Indian Offset Partner (IOP) by Dassault? First, why not state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL)? In 2011 the US Ambassador had flagged the acute disrepair in HAL including lying & pilferage. The potential for HAL to successfully partner with US firms on a truly advanced aircraft remains untested and suspect,â US Ambassador, Timothy Roemer. Dassault has also been concerned over HALâs capabilities. Itâs not the NDA government that refused HAL rather DA was reluctant for not being convinced about manufacturing ability of HAL and therefore unwilling to take the liability of the jet made by HAL. Despite that at least till 2015, the NDA government tried to get DA to accept liability for the HAL manufacturing. Now letâs look at the claim of Modi government favoring the Ambanis. We do not know if Dassault intends to discharge the entire obligation only through DRAL. The offset contract is between the MoD and the vendor DA, and the MoD has no role in the selection of the IOP by the vendor. Under the contract, DA and its Tier-I/II companies have to discharge an offset obligation of nearly Rs 30,000 crore. They need able IOPs who can fulfill this mammoth obligation. Considering that the vendor carries the full responsibility for discharging the offset obligation, it would be odd to believe that Dassault would choose an IOP who cannot deliver. It will expose DA to the risk of defaulting on its offset obligation that entails penalties and much more. | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 66545 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.248.22 Rating: N/A |
"We are three years behind in Sukhoi 30, 25 are yet to be delivered. In Jaguar, we are six years behind, five years behind in LCA (light combat aircraft-Tejas). In Mirage 2000 upgrade, we are two years behind, and in HTT (Hindustan Turbo Trainer aircraft) 40 we are five years behind," Dhanoa said, listing the pending deliveries by HAL rest of the story here(venjoy maadi): https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/defence/rafale-dea l-a-good-package-and-a-game-changer-air-force-chief/articles how/66056980.cms btw..Air Force chief winterview adi.. | ||
Mandharam Side Hero Username: Mandharam Post Number: 5049 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 122.171.89.255 Rating: N/A |
2012 prices tho compare chesthunnaru meeru 2012 fighter planes konte emi use defense ki..Our enemies have upgraded much before So they might have asked some customization/enhancements iphone 5 price was 500$ iphone X price is 1000$ ala thinking chesthu mundhuku vellipondi both iphones kada..same maker kada why 1000$ now in 2018 ante? i can't help | ||
Lazybones Junior Artist Username: Lazybones Post Number: 405 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 192.95.4.124 Rating: N/A |
opindia website yenti bro, postcard, swajyamag lantidhi inkoti dinchaara mana IT cell? | ||
Teluguhero Side Hero Username: Teluguhero Post Number: 2981 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 73.104.252.173 Rating: N/A |
Decoding the India-France G2G Rafale deal- Why it is not a Scam https://www.opindia.com/2018/02/decoding-the-india-france-g2 g-rafale-deal-why-it-is-not-a-scam/ Fact Check: Here are facts of the Rafale deal that are being selectively ignored by politicians https://www.opindia.com/2018/09/fact-check-here-are-facts-of -rafale-deal-that-are-being-selectively-ignored-by-politicia ns/ All you need to know about Indias association with Dassault and process to purchase Rafale since 2004 https://www.opindia.com/2018/09/all-you-need-to-know-about-i ndias-association-with-dassault-process-to-purchase-rafale-s ince-2004/ | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 66544 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.248.22 Rating: N/A |
The Congress has maintained that the government bought the jets at an inflated price of 7.87 billion euros (about Rs 59,000 crore). Congress president Rahul Gandhi had alleged in a tweet in March that the NDA government paid Rs 1,670 crore per aircraft while the UPA government had negotiated a price of Rs 570 crore. However, the defence ministryâs internal calculations, accessed by ET, show that each Rafale jet works out Rs 59 crore cheaper than what it would have cost under the UPA deal. The notes state that with the India specific enhancements, under the UPAâs terms the Rafale jets would have cost Rs 1,705 crore per jet, compared with the Rs 1,646 crore the NDA government negotiated for the purchase of 36 combat aircraft. A big component of the cost is attributed to India-specific enhancements to the jets, from the ability to take off from high-altitude stations such as Leh to an enhanced infrared search and track sensor and a potent electronic jammer pod. The cost of these enhancements has been taken as standard â they will cost the same for 36 jets as they would for 126 â since these are one-time research and development costs. | ||
Mandharam Side Hero Username: Mandharam Post Number: 5047 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 122.171.89.255 Rating: N/A |
SC is full of left scum It needs to be balanced with equal representations from right and left wings. Otherwise SC will become a nuisance for the progress of the nation | ||
Lazybones Junior Artist Username: Lazybones Post Number: 403 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 192.95.4.124 Rating: N/A |
anni vethukolenu Bro, common sense tho aduguthunna renegotiate antey rate thagginchataaiki chestaaru, 3 times penchataaniki kadhu... you didn't answer IAF 126 flights adigithey, 3 times yekkuva price ki renegotiate chesi 36 thaginchaaru (initial deal 126 flights), country security compromise kaaledha? apart from SCAM. | ||
Teluguhero Side Hero Username: Teluguhero Post Number: 2980 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 73.104.252.173 Rating: N/A |
LOL | ||
Lazybones Junior Artist Username: Lazybones Post Number: 402 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 192.95.4.124 Rating: N/A |
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Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 66542 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.248.22 Rating: N/A |
China lo Supreme Court unda..News to me | ||
Lazybones Junior Artist Username: Lazybones Post Number: 401 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 192.95.4.124 Rating: N/A |
nannu telugu tammudini chesaava  | ||
Teenmaar Side Hero Username: Teenmaar Post Number: 6803 Registered: 02-2011 Posted From: 24.185.158.48 Rating: N/A |
supreme court  | ||
Aggipidugu116 Side Hero Username: Aggipidugu116 Post Number: 4666 Registered: 07-2014 Posted From: 71.179.98.93 Rating: N/A |
Adi Mana kulanayakudu dochesedu.. so manam adagam.. | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 66541 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.248.22 Rating: N/A |
ennisarlu cheptaru rao garu ide ramayanam ... past lo oka 20 thaadulu paddayi..please search..on details | ||
Lazybones Junior Artist Username: Lazybones Post Number: 400 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 149.202.98.190 Rating: N/A |
IAF wanted 126 kada, 36 enduku konnaru, 3 times higher price ki enduku negotiate chesaaru? | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 66540 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.248.22 Rating: N/A |
fix HAL ante em cheyyali..Nirmala madam..spanner pattukoni HAL floor lo digala ..LOL.. they are already manufacturing LCAs.. HAL is just another Public Sector..Public Sectors atla enduku unnai ani andariki telusu.. btw..2012 lo HAL ichina time estimate was 2.7 times..so appati government em chesindi fixing ki anedi kooda teliyali mari ..vallu unna 10 years lo
desa bhakthi is to protect country first ..anduke ready to fly konnaru first..manufacturing later.. | ||
Lazybones Junior Artist Username: Lazybones Post Number: 399 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 149.202.98.190 Rating: N/A |
HAL not capable and it takes 2.5 times more labor Ani idhe thread rest of them antunaaru. Evaro okati fix ayithey, Iâll continue further discussion
IT cell Bro, pakkaku thappuko... | ||
Lazybones Junior Artist Username: Lazybones Post Number: 398 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 149.202.98.190 Rating: N/A |
Then fix need to done in HAL, not defame them and put someone our own. Idhena desabakthi? | ||
Teluguhero Side Hero Username: Teluguhero Post Number: 2979 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 73.104.252.173 Rating: N/A |
https://www.opindia.com/2018/11/rafale-deal-we-are-not-in-th e-off-set-business-says-hal-chairman-urging-politicians-to-n ot-bring-hal-into-this/ Rafale deal: âWe are not in the off-set businessâ, says HAL chairman urging politicians to ânot bring HAL into thisâ Madhavan also informed that in the upcoming purchase of 110 fighter jets by India, HAL will have to be selected as a partner by any company that wins the deal. At a time when Congress president Rahul Gandhi canât stop accusing that Narendra Modi government has âsnatchedâ a â¹ 30,000 crore offset business in the Rafale deal from HAL and given it to Anil Ambaniâs Reliance, HAL chairman has told that the company is not after such offset deals. In an exclusive interview with journalist Manu Pubby and published on the Economic Times, HAL chairman R Madhavan said that the public sector company was not a contender for offset business in the deal to buy 36 Rafale jets. R Madhavan had taken over as Chairman and Managing Director (CMD) of Hindustan Aeronautics Limited on September 1, after the term of previous CMD T Suvarna Raju was over. Madhavan also said that the company has asked its employees to not get involved with any political party on the issue. On the Rafale deal, he said, âour message is clear â please do not bring HAL into itâ. He said that the company does not want to get involved in the issue because it has a negative impact on HAL. He reminded that even the worker unions of the company have issued statements that they donât want to be part of any controversy on the issue. On October 13, Rahul Gandhi wanted to address HAL employees in the company premises, but both HAL authorities and employee unions refused this meet. Later, Rahul Gandhi had addressed some current and former employees outside the company premises. The HAL CMD said that the company is not in the offset business. He said the company is into manufacturing of aircraft, and transfer of technology and production are not the same as offsets. While some offset business may come to HAL, that is not a priority for the company. âIn fact, we are not even contending for the offsets. We do not plan, for example, to have a line to make a foreign civilian jet. Our prime business is manufacturing, not offsetsâ, he added. It can be noted that the Dassault Reliance joint venture, which is the prime target of Rahul Gandhi, is currently making parts for the Falcon business jet, which is a civilian plane made by Dassault. Commenting on HALâs own capability of making fighter planes, Madhavan said that although the company may lack the capacity to make enough planes on time, their capability and technical expertise canât be questioned. He said that HAL has partnered with four private sector companies for the manufacture of the LCA Tejas, these private companies will be making almost the entire structure of the plane, while HAL will only do the final integration. The HAL chief said that the company would like to focus on design, integration, flight testing and support. Madhavan also informed that in the upcoming purchase of 110 fighter jets by India, HAL will have to be selected as a partner by any company that wins the deal. There is a requirement of 40% indigenisation in that order, and only HAL has the capability for that. On November 2, Madhavan had said that HAL has started a major expansion of its manufacturing facilities and controversies around that Rafale deal has not affected the morale of its employees. He had informed media that the company has an order book of â¹64,000 crore which will be executed in four years. To achieve this, the company will be investing â¹1,400 crore during the financial year 2018-19 to scale up its facilities. It will be interesting to see if Rahul Gandhi will now stop bringing up HAL in his attack on the government on the Rafale deal. | ||
Mandharam Side Hero Username: Mandharam Post Number: 5046 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 122.171.89.255 Rating: |
HAL would never ever do junk work delegated by a company of the same level HAL is/was never ready to work for another aircraft maker. PERIOD offset work ante paaki pani lantidhi why would companies like HAL,ISRO,DRDO vouch for offset contracts? Media wants to play to the gallery. So they never publish HAL's stance in the public But there is a possibility of offset companies getting benefited which cannot be avoided | ||
Lazybones Junior Artist Username: Lazybones Post Number: 397 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 149.202.98.190 Rating: N/A |
Tantri Bro, in other words reliance debts lo kurukupoyindhi So fellow Gujju bro ni kaapadali, So heâll find back into general elections? | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 66539 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.248.22 Rating: N/A |
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Botsa_fan Side Hero Username: Botsa_fan Post Number: 8998 Registered: 07-2013 Posted From: 166.170.0.97 Rating: |
pattiseema and polaram key estimates 10 times revise chesaru..mana telugu tammulu verey vallani adagadam.Mana corruption choosukondi kindhana. Fan of Prabhas,Jr.NTR and SDT | ||
Tantri_the_mantri Comedian Username: Tantri_the_mantri Post Number: 1013 Registered: 03-2015 Posted From: 173.11.174.133 Rating: N/A |
idi nenu entha gonthu chinchukunna artham kaadu.. but from O&G, petrochem perspective.. Reliance is way better than any standard govt run operation.. manollu profitmakers ni villainze cheyatam aapali.. videsallo manam pani chese companylu kooda entho kontha rules ni beding chestayi.. Reliance is a very well run company.. alaanti company defense loki vasthe manchide.. desam lo enni reliancelu unte manake antha manchidi | ||
Lazybones Junior Artist Username: Lazybones Post Number: 396 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 149.202.98.190 Rating: N/A |
Raju Bro, Then why defense minister says HAL is not capable? Do you agree with her? | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 66538 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.248.22 Rating: N/A |
Amid a political slugfest over the Rafale fighter jet deal, state-run HAL's CMD R Madhavan on Wednesday said the aircraft manufacturing company is contending not to be an offset partner of any original equipment manufacturer. He also said HAL's basic focus was on manufacturing of aircraft, helicopters, associated accessories and their repair and overhaul, and not in garnering offset business. Production of aircraft from transfer of technology is totally different from offsets, according to him. | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 66537 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.248.22 Rating: N/A |
https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/companies/hal-not-conte nding-to-be-offset-partner-of-any-oem-cmd/article25437027.ec e do festival !!! | ||
Aggipidugu116 Side Hero Username: Aggipidugu116 Post Number: 4663 Registered: 07-2014 Posted From: 71.179.98.93 Rating: N/A |
neeku example ista.. maa uncle some big positon in Avadi ordinance factory, chennai Arjun tanks building chesedi..he used to go to balasore in orrisa to monitor missle testing... he said they took 25 years to develop arjun tank and it did not even satisfy indian military needs..indian govt sector companies are as useful as leftards to the country.. | ||
Lazybones Junior Artist Username: Lazybones Post Number: 395 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 167.114.118.4 Rating: N/A |
IT cell bro, price thagginchataaniki evaranna negotiate chestaaru, 3 times penchataaaniki kaadhu. How reliance is better than HAL? IAF wanted 126 flights, why it is reduced to 36? Compromise country security for Ambaniâs ? | ||
Lazybones Junior Artist Username: Lazybones Post Number: 394 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 167.114.118.4 Rating: N/A |
IT cell bro, nee Salary yenta IT cell lo? Submit chesindhi court lo affidavit 9 pages. IT cell bro, can you answer below from affidavit? Price renegotiate yenduku chesaaru? Price yenduku revival cheyyaledu affidavit lo? Ambani ela Dooradu? Initial deal lo Ambani ledu. Ambani company lo Dassault enduku 300 Cr invest chesindhi? | ||
Teluguhero Side Hero Username: Teluguhero Post Number: 2976 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 73.104.252.173 Rating: N/A |
https://www.opindia.com/2018/11/modi-govt-provides-details-o f-decision-making-process-involved-in-rafale-deal-says-all-p rocedures-followed/ Modi govt provides details of decision making process involved in Rafale deal, says all procedures followed The government also reiterates that it has no role to play in the election of offset partners by the vendors, and there will be hundreds of offset contracts, as there are 2 vendors and 33 sub-vendors with offset obligations in the deal. Today the government of India submitted an affidavit at the Supreme Court detailing the steps of the decision-making process before ordering 36 Rafale jets from France. On 10th October, the Supreme Court had said that it would like to know about the steps taken in the decision-making process. Further on 31st October, the apex court had asked the government provide such details to the petitioners of the PIL, excluding any sensitive information that comes under the Official Secrets Act. Obeying that order, the government has provided the details of the Rafale deal to the petitioners. DPP and DAC The norms and procedures were all followed in the Rafale deal, said the government. The response of government gives a detailed account of the Defence Procurement Procedure (DPP), which governs all defence related procurements by the Indian government. The government amended through several reviews the DPP which was introduced in 2002. The government notes the Preamble of the DPP, which states that defence acquisition is not a standard open market commercial transaction and it has several unique features like supplier constraints, technical complexity, foreign supplier, geopolitical ramifications etc. Thatâs why decision making in defence procurement is unique and complex. The government says that it followed the Defence Procurement Procedure-2013 (DPP-2013) in the procurement of 36 Rafale jets. The reply mentions every step involved in the DPP-2013, from the preparation of user requirement to the award of the contract. It says that Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) is the highest body for defence procurement matters. The DAC is headed by the defence minister and it includes all Service Chiefs, along with several secretaries in the defence ministry. Background The reply of government gives background the deal. In 2007, bid for 126 fighter aircraft was issued, which was for the direct purchase of 18 aircraft and rest 108 to be made in India. Six vendors submitted their proposals in 2008. Detail technical and field evaluations were conducted in 2009 and 2010. In 2011 commercial bids were opened, and Dassault Aviation was selected as the winner in 2012. After that, contract negotiations started in the same year. But the negotiation could not be concluded due to differences over the manufacture of 108 jets in India by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL). The reason for this was lack of agreement between Dassault and HAL over the following issues: HAL required 2.7 times higher man-hours compared to Dassault for manufacturing the Rafale in India. Dassault was required to undertake contractual obligation for entire 128 jets, both made in India and France. But these were issues in this regard which could be resolved. This situation remained in place for more than three years, delaying the purchase. This delay also increased the cost of purchase, due to in-built escalation and also variations in Euro-Rupee exchange rates. During the period, enemies of India had already inducted more than 400 fighter planes. This delay was also impacting other upgradation programs of Indian Air Force. In view of this, the decision to purchase 36 Rafale jets in fly-way condition was taken. Decision-making process followed The reply by government states that all requisite steps as per the DPP-2013 were followed while deciding to purchase 36 jets. After completion of the processes under the DPP, necessary approval of the DAC was taken in 2015. The DAC was informed that the capability of the 36 Rafale aircraft will be as per the requirement for the original bid to buy 126 jets. An Indian Negotiation Team (INT) was constituted to negotiate the terms and conditions for the deal, which was headed by the Deputy Chief of Air Staff of the IAF. A total of 26 meetings took place between Indian and French sides, while the INT met 48 times for internal meetings. A variety of aspects, including pricing, delivery schedule, maintenance terms, offsets, etc were discussed in those meetings. The government says that INT had arrived at better terms related to price, delivery and maintenance as compared to the earlier order for 126 jets. After finalising the deal, it was placed before the Cabinet Committee on Security in August 2016. The CCS provided the due approval on the same day. After this, the relevant protocols for the Inter-Governmental Agreement (IGA) were signed between Indian Defence Minister and French Defence Minister, on behalf of the respective governments. Offset As the major controversy created by the opposition in the deal is one offset partner selected by Dassault, the government has given a detail response on offsets. The government states that no private business house was mentioned in the IGA or Offset Contract. The offset clause does not envisage manufacture of the 36 Rafale aircraft in India by any public or private sector firm. And as per Offset Contract, the vendor is required to provide the details of Indian Offset Partners at the time of claiming offset credits or one year before discharge of offset obligation. As per the contract, the annual offset implementation will start from October 2019, and Dassault is yet to submit any formal proposal for carrying out offset obligations. A foreign vendor that discharge offset obligations by several routes, they are: Direct purchase of products or services from Indian enterprises, both public and private sector. Foreign Direct Investment in joint ventures with India enterprise for manufacture/ maintenance of eligible products and services. Transfer of technology to Indian enterprises for manufacture/ maintenance of eligible products and services. Providing equipment to Indian enterprises. Technology Acquisition by Defence Research Development Organisation (DRDO) in high technology areas. Governmentâs reply says that vendor will be responsible for fulfilment of offset obligations. If the Defence Ministry has not barred the Indian enterprise, then the vendor is free to select an enterprise of their choosing. The offset guidelines under DPP-2013 governs the offset contracts under Rafale deal. The deals signed were two separate deals, one with Dassault and the other with MBDA, which is providing missiles for the jets bought by India. There is no offset obligation in the first three years of signing the contracts, which means the obligations start from October 2019 onwards. Other than the two vendors, offset obligation will also have to discharged by Tier-1 sub-vendors. Dassault has 21 such Tier-1 sub-vendors and MBDA has 12. The government of Indiaâs response clarified that they followed every norm under the Defence Procurement Policy while deciding to purchase the 36 Rafale jets. The government also reiterates that it has no role to play in the election of offset partners by the vendors, and there will be hundreds of offset contracts, as there are 2 vendors and 33 sub-vendors with offset obligations in the deal. |
