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Posted on Monday, September 17, 2018 - 02:03 pm:       


Anand_n:




Nice to speak you andi...:-)
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Posted on Monday, September 17, 2018 - 02:02 pm:       


Ram1:




hehe mukkayana basicaa oka naluguru jyothishula tho state ni manage chestunnadu.....
Results will be interesting let see....
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Posted on Monday, September 17, 2018 - 01:55 pm:       

Visvmitra munupu nuvve anukunta KCR ki e year bhagundhi ani early election kelthunnadu andhi.....but but but T lo oka one week nundi cong full swing antannaru so basic ga astrology science i vundachu but situation ni batti grahalu kuda thama pandha marchukuntai anukuntunna like scince la every year same medicine vundadhu flu shot laa a year virus ni batti vunnattu....bhaaga cheppana
 

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Posted on Monday, September 17, 2018 - 01:49 pm:       


Anand_n:

I don�t think viswamitra is new to the dB



 

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Posted on Monday, September 17, 2018 - 01:48 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:




I don’t think viswamitra is new to the dB :-)

That aside did have an interesting astrology exp on this visit - my mom loves to go to anyone who claims to tell the future and she heard of this person and she wanted someone to take her there so here we go ... went and sat down - the person printed the chart ( not mine) , looked at it for a couple mins and answered mom’s questions, prescribed nivaran Pujas - Mom has asked me to listen and interpret for her , since she was having trouble understanding his low voice ... he them turned to me , And asked me nakshatram , name and went on to tell me my Dasa will turn at a specific time - as far as I am concerned my life is good now so I asked wryly ‘ for good or bad ‘ - he was a lil surprised and said for good , i said’ I don’t have a chart ‘ and he said nakshatra & name is enough so I guess am all set :-) along with 1/27th of the world’s population born in the same nakshatra! Or a subset with my fairly common name :-)

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Posted on Monday, September 17, 2018 - 01:31 pm:       


Anand_n:

I am not going to argue about the rest of your belief but I have to say I disagree about your correlation of caste to temperament - but that may be a fault of my sample size which includes this DB

I was into astrology and vasthu some years ago and spent significant time studying both ... then decided I don�t need either and consciously did a shift - delete .,, so I will get out of this thread and let you all discuss the intricacies




like many in DB experience.. viswamitra - no offence meant - is in the initial stages.. eventually he will graduate to a sarcastic trolling, ofcourse and unless if he doesnt quit by then :-)

so many deja vu moments... makes me wonder what percent of my life has been spent in this virtual world.. lol
 

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Posted on Monday, September 17, 2018 - 01:28 pm:       


Viswamitra:




I am not going to argue about the rest of your belief but I have to say I disagree about your correlation of caste to temperament - but that may be a fault of my sample size which includes this DB :-)

I was into astrology and vasthu some years ago and spent significant time studying both ... then decided I don’t need either and consciously did a shift - delete .,, so I will get out of this thread and let you all discuss the intricacies :-)

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Posted on Monday, September 17, 2018 - 01:12 pm:       

astrology has basic indicators of "rebel" marriages.. but i dont believe it can identify what kind of caste or creed or religion the other party would be.. but i may be wrong
 

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Posted on Monday, September 17, 2018 - 11:55 am:       

Astrology is a science of patterns, who ever understands the cosmic cycles they grow. people read more sankhya sastra
 

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Posted on Monday, September 17, 2018 - 11:13 am:       


Anand_n:

Are you able to tell the person� s caste from a astrology chart ? Then your argument would be valid ...




Yes we can tell in the sense on the temperament .... expert astrologers can correct me...


Anand_n:

By your logic of spiritual development India should have been a country of all evolved souls given the centuries of caste limited marriages ... but has that happened ?




India by far has the huge number of evolved souls, no country or plcae on earth can come even near to us in that aspect ...every village in india has a grama devatha, if you look at the sophisticated way in which prana pratishtha is done you will be amazed..i had come into contact with some great ppl who do prana prathitsha and punar prathistha of some temples they told me some of the processess they followed earlier were simple esoteric...again this might sound as fairy tale but this is true...please look at sadhguru's expalantion on this..all this i believe was possible because of graceful union between two souls not just because of carnal and emotional attraction... :-)
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Posted on Monday, September 17, 2018 - 10:36 am:       


Sony:


Best vargottama positions




Great
 

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Posted on Monday, September 17, 2018 - 10:33 am:       


Digitalspy:


I didn't know this. Never heard/read this point.


it is one of the dictum in nadi astrology
 

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Posted on Monday, September 17, 2018 - 10:32 am:       


Sony:

Any Planet in pushkara navamsa will be equal to vargottama



I didn't know this. Never heard/read this point.



Sony:


Also Rahu in fire signs doesnt do well, so Rahu in UA 1st Pada kante UA 4th pada should be better even though its in pisces



Yes. Rahu is good in jala rashis

can't convincingly agree on the last point of urs
 

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Posted on Monday, September 17, 2018 - 10:30 am:       

Every rasis have 2 pushkar amsas, out of which atleast 1 pushkara will be in middle of the sign and its better position for the planet
 

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Posted on Monday, September 17, 2018 - 10:28 am:       


Digitalspy:

2nd pada - vargottama


Also wanted to make a point here
about vargottamma

Planet that is early or late in the sign and vargottamma, vargottama effects are negligible than the ones in the middle of the sign

Best vargottama positions

Rohini 2nd pada
Poorva Phalguni(Pubba) 2nd pada
Anuradha 4th pada (though moon will be debilitated both in rasi and navamsa, this is best position for moon)
Satabisham 3rd pada
 

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Posted on Monday, September 17, 2018 - 10:17 am:       


Digitalspy:



Yes, it is pushkara navamsa. kani, that is not everything. Rahu will be in meena in navamsa, which is a Jupiter sign. Rahu is not good in Jupiter's signs.
1st pada - pushkara navamsa + vargottama [so, it is equal as in own sign]
2nd pada - vargottama [so, it is equal as in own sign]
3rd pada - navamsa lo own sign - aquarius


Any Planet in pushkara navamsa will be equal to vargottama

Also Rahu in fire signs doesnt do well, so Rahu in UA 1st Pada kante UA 4th pada should be better even though its in pisces

now RA in UA 1st pada is in dhanus not a comfortable position for rahu

where as Ra in 2,3, 4 its in saturn's capricorn and earth sign assuming saturn is doing well, Rahu's best position will be UA 4th pada and in Pushakara amsa which is better than 2nd and 3rd
 

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Posted on Monday, September 17, 2018 - 08:55 am:       


Digitalspy:

caste is still the most important thing.




No diff between this belief of caste being a primary indicator of status and the affiliations this dB fights day in and day out over - is there ?


Viswamitra:




Are you able to tell the person’ s caste from a astrology chart ? Then your argument would be valid ...
Social conditioning is a different argument for people brought up in orthodox environments ..auras conflicts etc - could happen within the caste and within family too..
By your logic of spiritual development India should have been a country of all evolved souls given the centuries of caste limited marriages ... but has that happened ?

Some things to think about if you are willing to entertain the questions - else ignore them ..:-)

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Posted on Monday, September 17, 2018 - 08:44 am:       


Rgb:

II sollu edho desaniki bhoomiki paniki vacche analysis chesi saavocchuga.




casette discussions lo eppudu palgonaledaa DB lo meeru ?


Rgb:

Stock market analysts kante worst ga vunnaru



aa analysis vallane how to pick right stock teliyani vallaki kooda profits vastai
 

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Posted on Monday, September 17, 2018 - 08:42 am:       


Sony:

why not 4th pada? in 4th pada rahu will be in pushakara amsa, how can rahu be better in 1,2,3 padas....while in 4th pada rahu becomes strongest because pushkara amsa?




Yes, it is pushkara navamsa. kani, that is not everything. Rahu will be in meena in navamsa, which is a Jupiter sign. Rahu is not good in Jupiter's signs.
1st pada - pushkara navamsa + vargottama [so, it is equal as in own sign]
2nd pada - vargottama [so, it is equal as in own sign]
3rd pada - navamsa lo own sign - aquarius

hence it is good. When a planet is in vargottama it behaves as if it is in own sign. a planet in own sign gives the good results of that house and its natural karakatwas. internal karakatwas of that house will improve. This acquired behaviour of a planet in own house can also be due to an exchange of signs between two planets. Like in Indira Gandhi's chart. A person who has venus in own sign, can't have multiple affairs.

Whereas 4th pada - just pushkara navamsa.
So, pushkara navamsa is to be considered along with other afflictions to rahu.
 

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Posted on Monday, September 17, 2018 - 12:15 am:       


Rgb:

II sollu edho desaniki bhoomiki paniki vacche analysis chesi saavocchuga





Viswamitra:

Guys who are forward thinking, for whom astrology is BS...you are great please pakka ki velli aadukondi...



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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 10:06 pm:       

II sollu edho desaniki bhoomiki paniki vacche analysis chesi saavocchuga. Stock market analysts kante worst ga vunnaru
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 09:31 pm:       


Digitalspy:

Rahu in Uttara Ashada 1st 2nd and 3 pada is better kadaa.


why not 4th pada? in 4th pada rahu will be in pushakara amsa, how can rahu be better in 1,2,3 padas....while in 4th pada rahu becomes strongest because pushkara amsa?
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 09:27 pm:       


Sony:

rahu, and saturn was in Uttara Ashada most of the times,



Rahu in Uttara Ashada 1st 2nd and 3 pada is better kadaa.
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 09:19 pm:       


Subbarao:


9th house lo saturn unte kalathra sthaanam meeda elaanti impact untundi



ilaa isolation lo castam. Sani in 9th in Aquarius will be different from Sani in 9th in Aries. 7th lord is important as well.
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 09:17 pm:       


Viswamitra:

who have JU+sa or jup+rah had either intercaste/faith marraiges or married to a person much lower than his family status(though same caste)



nenu choosina cases lo same caste ayina kooda very high status abbai tho marriage ayndi.
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 01:41 pm:       


Sony:

uring those years, Saturn is afflicted by rahu, and saturn was in Uttara Ashada most of the times, sun lords uttara ashada

so check if sun is weak for people who are born during that time, they might have marriage issues




Good insight bro....
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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 01:12 pm:       

in 1990-91 period, Jupiter was exalted in cancer, saturn was in capricorn

ayite Jupiter strongest aspects are 9th, 5th and then 7th (descending order)

similarly Saturn strongest aspect are 3rd, 10th and then 7th (descending order)

so you cannot really say jupiter is getting afflicted by saturn

during those years, Saturn is afflicted by rahu, and saturn was in Uttara Ashada most of the times, sun lords uttara ashada

so check if sun is weak for people who are born during that time, they might have marriage issues

for inter caste also look how venus is behaving in "men's" chart and how mars is behaving in "women's" chart
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 01:08 pm:       

this is very general principal....and I dont agree that Jupiter getting afflicted with sa/ra/ke results in intercaste marriage

Also Jupiter-Saturn is very good combination, both are neutral to each other

Jupiter preaches wisdom and dharma

Saturn preaches karma

Saturn should be stronger in this combination

in "general" people in this combo are work very smartly.
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 12:05 pm:       


Digitalspy:




9th house lo saturn unte kalathra sthaanam meeda elaanti impact untundi
Manchi vaallaki paataalu chepthaa chedda vaallaki guna paataalu chepthaa
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 12:02 pm:       


Digitalspy:

Jupiter and Saturn conjunction need not be a bad one always.




ohh nice, in my observation ..ppl(read girls) who have JU+sa or jup+rah had either intercaste/faith marraiges or married to a person much lower than his family status(though same caste)....may be other combinations influenced but just my bird's eye observation...
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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 11:57 am:       


Anand_n:

It may be more useful to predict who will be a murderer and apply preventive action there ... just saying ...




Yes, but practically not possible...


Anand_n:

A lot of people argue that caste was not intended by birth when it was created - and presumably when Jyotish shastra was written... so I would be very skeptical of this claim




I look at caste from a very different angle..a person brought up in one caste has certain alignment of enegries(where environment also plays a crucial role)...if a person is raised as a caste person(not born) his alignment of energies will be in a certain way..that will not be compataible with another girl raised in another way...these differences will blow up as time passes..It is really important for us to understand this subtle difference...

Now a days intercaste marriages are successful as most of the families are raising kids in a very similar way(be it brahmin, kam,reddy, etc etc) so the chance of friction of energies is minimal...in good olden days it was completely different and as a result there were huge internal issues (forget societal and external) in inter caste marriages...

Now castes are only for name sake ...all castes have similar day to day activities and follow similar order...There is no speciality in any caste (except few ppl) hence intercaste marriages look very OK and fine...but lets say in a house there is a devi/bhairav/eeswara upasak and who got siddhhi in upasana and if his son/daughter goes for an intercaste marriage that marraige is going to explode(assuming kids aura is heavily influenced by that sadhak)...

so if you want to advance hugely in spiritual/tantrik/vaidik life it is imperative to go for same caste...if you are not into all these and name sake caste guy just go for compatibility and enjoy carnal pleasures castes and faiths are not an issue....and there is no point in claiming i belong to one caste and beating the drums....

my two cents :-)
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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 11:22 am:       

Interesting
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 11:19 am:       


Anand_n:

economic, social , occupational - caste




out of all these 4 listed words, caste is still the most important thing.
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 11:18 am:       

The problem with people having Jupiter and Saturn combination is ... they are very kind at heart and many people exploit this.

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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 11:17 am:       


Digitalspy:

the caste is based on the father's caste, but not based on the type of work one does. The ancient books tell about the spouse from a distant place. Even Mechanical, EEE, CSE Engineering branches weren't there at the time of writing those astrology books.





Given that, the diff in status today is a mix of different things - economic, social , occupational - caste may be a factor but cannot be the whole indicator of status indicated by the chart - that is all I am saying :-)

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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 11:16 am:       


Viswamitra:

What about Jupiter getting afflicted with SA/rah/ke for girls and similar affliction of Venus for boys?



Jupiter gets afflicted with rahu. Ketu is afflicted due to Jupiter. Not the otherway.
Jupiter and Saturn conjunction need not be a bad one always. It may be good for a scorpio lagna native. It can be bad for Leo lagna.

When Ju in a girl's chart is afflicted due to Rahu, she will have troubles due to husband.
if venus in boy's chart is afflicted [with Sun], he may have problems due to wife.
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 11:10 am:       


Anand_n:

predict who will be a murderer and apply preventive action there ... just saying ...



evil thougths can be predicted. Whether or not he/she does it is difficult to predict, still such a prediction with low probability can be given.


Anand_n:

Is status caste ? A lot of people argue that caste was not intended by birth when it was created - and presumably when Jyotish shastra was written.



Yes, the caste system was different then. Now, the caste is based on the father's caste, but not based on the type of work one does. The ancient books tell about the spouse from a distant place. Even Mechanical, EEE, CSE Engineering branches weren't there at the time of writing those astrology books. However, the rules should be applied/extended to these.
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 11:05 am:       


Digitalspy:



What about Jupiter getting afflicted with SA/rah/ke for girls and similar affliction of Venus for boys?
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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 11:01 am:       


Urumi:

Aayana 10 yrs munde friend ki cheppaaru, intercaste marriage , society paramga nee kante takkuva kulam ani. Exact ga ade jarigindi after 10 yrs. aayana konni dates to saha cheppaaru. Alaage jariginay.


first case lo..ayana cheppevi jaruguthayi kabatti cognitive bias kuda undi undochu:-)..second case really great!
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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 10:52 am:       


Viswamitra:




It may be more useful to predict who will be a murderer and apply preventive action there ... just saying ...

Is status caste ? A lot of people argue that caste was not intended by birth when it was created - and presumably when Jyotish shastra was written... so I would be very skeptical of this claim :-)

Urumi,
Upasakulu usually chart chusi chepparu - 2 different things :-)

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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 10:50 am:       

Jupiter + Rahu is called guru chandala yoga. I have seen few people who have this yoga and married a person who belonged to a different caste. But the results depend on the house in which these two conjoin. Because the Jupiter and Rahu will be together for about 10 - 11 months. Everyone born during this period will have this yoga. But only few get married to someone from a different caste.


Love marriage need not be inter caste marriage always. I have seen two persons whose marriage was arranged by parents, but they were inter caste marriage !!
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 10:45 am:       


Viswamitra:


80% of ppl cannot execute free will, for them majority of life is pre written...



check the placement of 9th lord, to know how far free will the native has
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 10:44 am:       

if the seventh lord from lagna has conjunction with Rahu, it can be inter caste or inter religion or inter regional marriage. Placement of lagna lord, seventh lord and 12th lord is important as well.
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 10:41 am:       


Stellar:

evadi gola vaadidi




Inti lopaley kulam, gadapa daatithey manamantha Hinduvulam...
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 10:40 am:       


Urumi:



80% of ppl cannot execute free will, for them majority of life is pre written...

Remaining 20% if they properly meditate and do yoga they can execute their free will and do whatever they want in life...

That is why yoga and meditation are so important in ones's life...esp meditation...
Inti lopaley kulam, gadapa daatithey manamantha Hinduvulam...
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 09:26 am:       


Awara1984:

Astrology lo caste basis analysis untada?


maa oka friend uncle okaayana kaali maata upasakulu. Aayana 10 yrs munde friend ki cheppaaru, intercaste marriage , society paramga nee kante takkuva kulam ani. Exact ga ade jarigindi after 10 yrs. aayana konni dates to saha cheppaaru. Alaage jariginay.
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 09:01 am:       


Stellar:

renditiki proofs and trials vundav kabatti edaina cheppukovachu




Scientific approach to astrologyy study cheste it will not help anyone. Spiritual process ki astrology is a good tool. Individual can validate experience of their inner being through astrology.
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 08:54 am:       


Shikari:

homeo doctors prathi daniki maa daggara mandhu undhi annatte.




renditiki proofs and trials vundav kabatti edaina cheppukovachu
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 08:47 am:       

Rational thinking supporters of kaushal untara ee thread lo?
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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 08:42 am:       

homeo doctors prathi daniki maa daggara mandhu undhi annatte..astrology lo prathi daniki edho oka reason chebutharu...nenu homeo,astrology nammanu ani kadhu kani..they have their limitations ani na thokkalo feeling.
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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 08:39 am:       


Viswamitra:

what he said is between 1989-91 and 95-97 during certain times Jupiter was afflicted Saturn/Rahul/ketu ingirls horoscope he observed and all of them are intercaste marriages and a heart burn for parents...




evadi gola vaadidi
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 08:37 am:       

Gochaaram kooda choodaali
Manchi vaallaki paataalu chepthaa chedda vaallaki guna paataalu chepthaa
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 08:37 am:       

Naaku thelsi rahu drushti kalathra sthaanam meeda unte intercaste marriages untaai but phalaana date of birth intercaste marriages fail avthaayanedi naaku thelsi undadu
Manchi vaallaki paataalu chepthaa chedda vaallaki guna paataalu chepthaa
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 08:05 am:       


Confused:



I don't have bhayya...but trying to understand if Jupiter is afflicted with sa/Ra/ke, will that result in marriage below their standard?
Inti lopaley kulam, gadapa daatithey manamantha Hinduvulam...
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 08:04 am:       


Viswamitra:




Naaku telisina or konchem knowledge telisina friend cheppindi endi ante

Astrology whether you marry against your parents wishes anedi maatram cheppochu ante so atlanti chart unte then they say you have chances of having love marriage anthe

Anthe kaani intercaste interreligious so and so details aithe undavu anukunta
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 07:54 am:       

Bunch of bs
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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 07:53 am:       


Awara1984:

Astrology lo caste basis analysis untada?




literaily caste ani kaadu but konni planets placements valla the individual will feel the need of excitement in marriage. Society norm ki against ga cheste oka thrill vastundi vaalaki.


Viswamitra:




Do u have both boys and girls charts???
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 07:51 am:       

Love marriage cheppochu emo kanee inter caste marriage sangati idea ledhu..Love aithey 5th house 7th house relations, 5th lord 7th lord combinations tho chebutharu....Cassette no idea
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 07:47 am:       


Awara1984:



Naaki telvad...neeki telsi naaki cheppu...aduke ee thread...
Inti lopaley kulam, gadapa daatithey manamantha Hinduvulam...
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 07:44 am:       

Astrology lo caste basis analysis untada?
 

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Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 07:41 am:       

Just had a call with my uncle who practises astrology, as a casual talk we discussed about miryalguda case, what he said is between 1989-91 and 95-97 during certain times Jupiter was afflicted Saturn/Rahul/ketu ingirls horoscope he observed and all of them are intercaste marriages and a heart burn for parents...

This was a pattern he saying he observed...
So in short what's the combination in horoscope of a girl/boy which indicates inter caste/faith marriage between non equals...
Astro insights please...

Guys who are forward thinking, for whom astrology is BS...you are great please enjoy...
Inti lopaley kulam, gadapa daatithey manamantha Hinduvulam...

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