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Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2018 - 03:04 pm:       


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appatlo jalayagnam mobilization advances tho RE business chesi viprateetam ga pencharu rates... idhi kooda alanemo
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2018 - 02:31 pm:       


Sachin:

aa contractors ki thappa evadiki use dennni valla?


aa contractors money valle kada RE rates inka perugutunayi in both states lekapote achampeta lo 15 lakhs anta deni valla.
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Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2018 - 01:38 pm:       


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I sincerely hope KCR does not stop this project. deeni valla chala money is rotating abck to A contractors who are buying the lands in A




aa contractors ki thappa evadiki use dennni valla?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2018 - 01:21 pm:       

Kalleswaram is not just a single link lift irrigation project, but a 7 link project, linking various other dams currently existing. So it is expected to cost a fortune not just for building but even to maintain.//


ee mukka andariki telisindhe anduke kada inni years aa projects kattandhi mari.

power last two years gha india lo availability bhane vundi inthaka mundhu ayithe ilanti projects kee power ivvali ante dorkadu.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2018 - 01:16 pm:       

I sincerely hope KCR does not stop this project. deeni valla chala money is rotating abck to A contractors who are buying the lands in A

T lo agri lands baga perigayi ee project valla, denema acham peta ani hyd nunchi 150 km akkada kuda 15 lakhs chebutunaru per acre. A lo vijaywada nunchi 40ks lo dorukutundi aa price ki and we still get plenty of water.
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Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2018 - 01:04 pm:       


Damn:

Polavram estimates: 18,000 crores in 2014
56,000 crores in 2018




Rehab cost went up by 4-5 times as per 2013 land acquisition bill... just rehab ye 38K cr in Polavaram ...actual project construction is just 14Kcr
Dharmam gelavani Chota... Tappadhu Kathula veta ... thappu oppedho.. samharam tarvatha !!
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2018 - 12:40 pm:       


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Crop yield 20 times increase avvuthai ani cheppadam kaki lekkalu

Below are the facts why it is being Built

Traditionally Telangana is water scare state, and Godavari river avg height of flow in Telangana is 100 my above see level, where are the avg height of telangana is 300 meters.
To get water to higher elevation there is no other alternative other than lift irrigation.

There are places where they could have opted other than kalleswaram that could have limited he project expenses, but there was a pact signed between Maharashtra and they opposed building on the border of telangana.

Polavaran is completely different and is in ideal place to built a dam ( papi Kondal helps them in accumulating the water) and AP being a plain unlike telangana which is a plateau it is easier to build dams and check dams.

Kalleswaram is not just a single link lift irrigation project, but a 7 link project, linking various other dams currently existing. So it is expected to cost a fortune not just for building but even to maintain.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2018 - 12:34 pm:       


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R&R valla antha iendhi not dam cost..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2018 - 12:31 pm:       


Liteteesko:

overall budget 25k cr anukunta kadaa 2014 lo....suddengaa budget intha perigindi...




Polavram estimates: 18,000 crores in 2014
56,000 crores in 2018
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/vijayawada/polavara m-dam-project-cost-soars-to-rs-58319-cr/articleshow/62479693 .cms

 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2018 - 12:24 pm:       

emaina T lo theda vastey... Abisiggu vachestadu AP ki ... elagoo rojoo mana state politics meedha baga focus chestunnadu kabatti..veeji avudhi move :D
Dharmam gelavani Chota... Tappadhu Kathula veta ... thappu oppedho.. samharam tarvatha !!
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2018 - 12:22 pm:       

FreeFood ye kadha... let them enjoy ya
Dharmam gelavani Chota... Tappadhu Kathula veta ... thappu oppedho.. samharam tarvatha !!
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2018 - 12:09 pm:       


Liteteesko:




80k budget first phase ante aipoye sariki double avvochu...free paisal ey ga pettukoni
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2018 - 11:53 am:       


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Phase 1: 80000cr
Phase 2: No Estimate




adenti ....overall budget 25k cr anukunta kadaa 2014 lo....suddengaa budget intha perigindi...

gov narasimhan vachi pogidesi vellindi ..project cost 3-4 times penchinandukaa..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2018 - 03:08 am:       


Shivavishnu:

KCR will lose this time



 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2018 - 12:17 am:       

KCR will lose this time, congress will form the govt with MIM and TDP support.
Om Namah Shivaya.....Om Namo Narayanaaaya....
 

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Posted on Monday, July 09, 2018 - 11:31 pm:       

andhrolla kutra
 

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Posted on Monday, July 09, 2018 - 10:25 pm:       

Bisleri water project
 

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Posted on Monday, July 09, 2018 - 09:39 pm:       

Telangana state is constructing a massive irrigation scheme known as the Kaleshwaram lift irrigation project (KLIP). Governor E.S.L. Narsimhan visited the site on January 21, and described it as “amazing and unprecedentedâ€. He was so impressed that he even said, “...Now, after seeing the project, I want to call him (Chief Minister K. Chandrasekhar Rao) Kaleshwaram Chandrasekhar Rao.†He wanted the work completed in six months.

Recently, irrigation minister T. Harish Rao declared that the project would be completed in 2022 and Phase 1 would be partly operational in August.
However, almost on a weekly basis, the figures pertaining to the project are changing — about the acreage of irrigation, the cost, the intended benefits, its size and shape.



The project
As per the Detailed Project Report (DPR), the objective of the Kaleshwaram project is to:

Provide irrigation water to 738,851 hectares (ha) (18.25 lakh acres) with 134.25 tmc ft (3,800 million cubic metres) of water
Provide another 34.5 tmc ft of water (1,000 ) for stabilisation of already irrigated area of six lakh acres
Provide 10 tmc ft for drinking water and 16 tmc ft for industrial purposes

Close to 200 tmc ft of water is going to be pumped in several stages, transported through canals and tunnels. In order to do so, several barrages, pumping stations and storage dams will be constructed.

The cost
The project is estimated to cost about Rs 80,000 crore. This figure, as expected, is increasing by the day. This figure is only for Phase I, and no one knows what the additional cost for Phase II will be. No irrigation project in the country has ever been completed on time and within the estimated cost.

The annual operations and maintenance (O&M) cost, according to the DPR, will be Rs 13,923 crore. This includes interest, electricity costs, annual maintenance charges, depreciation of the equipment etc. Again, in the real world, these maintenance costs are always much higher than indicated in the DPR.

The benefits
The benefits from the project are estimated be Rs 21,000 crore every year which includes the agriculture component — crops worth Rs 12,730 crore. The rest of the amount will be raised by collecting water charges from domestic and industrial users. It is not clear who will pay for the water and how the money will be collected.

The benefits from crops are computed based on three assumptions:

The project will provide irrigation to 24 lakh acres
Yield increases from 12 suggested crops will be from 500 per cent to 900 per cent more than the current figures
All the produce will get higher prices.

The DPR provides the projected benefits of each crop per acre. The net benefits from each crop after removing the cost of cultivation has been mentioned, and the current benefit of that crop has been given brackets.

Paddy: Rs 28,000 per acre net projected benefit (Rs 3,200 current benefit); Maize: Rs 24,000 (Rs 3,500); Jowar: Rs 12,000 (Rs 2,400); Green gram: Rs 30,000 (Rs 2,700); Black gram: Rs 34,000 (Rs 2,000); Pigeon peaL Rs 34,000 (Rs 16,000); Ground nut: Rs 46,000 (Rs 10,000); Cotton: Rs 42,000 (Rs 9,000); Chilli: Rs 1,56,000 (Rs 12,000); Vegetables: Rs 44,000 (`3,000); Turmeric: Rs 55,000 (Rs 2,300); Soya bean Rs 40,000 per acre net projected benefit (Rs 19,000 current benefit)

The ‘hot’ question
Look at the details. The chilli crop alone is expected to get Rs 4,500 crore annually. The projected yield increase for chilli is from 200 kg per acre to 2,000 kg per acre, or by ten-fold. Farmers are shown to get a benefit of Rs 1.56 lakh per acre of chilli cultivation from the current level of Rs 12,000. This is an increase of 1,300 per cent or 13 times.

The area under chilli in the entire state now is about 80,000 hectares (1.96 lakh acres) and the production is 2.27 lakh tonnes. As per the DPR, the area under Kaleshwaram lift irrigation project will produce 52 lakh tonnes of chilli at an average yield of 4.5 tonne per hectare. Consequently, the increase in production is estimated to be 20 times the current figure in the state.

Normally when production of chillies increases by 20 per cent more than the average of the previous year, the prices fall precipitously with no buyers in the market. This was the case last year, when farmers in their frustration burnt the produce. What would be the market response if chillies are produced 20 times more than the current level?

The actual cost
The yield increase and profit margins in the DPR are totally false. This is a joke and mockery of preparing DPRs. There is no credibility for such DPRs, they are cooked up to show that the project benefits the farmers and the state. This is a ritual.

The state government will spend Rs 53,000 per acre every year towards operation and maintenance (O&M) costs of the Kaleshwaram project, while farmers at best may get a benefit of Rs 15,000 per acre. Under any cropping pattern, with any production increase, farmers will not get even one-third of the O&M costs as net benefit after removing the cultivation costs.

In addition to this, the Kaleshwaram project will displace at least 30,000 people in 19 villages. Further, it will affect land of about 1 lakh acres (40,015 hectares). Considering all other costs, this project will be a major burden on the people of the state and farmers for generations to come. The social ecological costs are not even included in the project.

The way forward
The Telangana state government needs to have clarity on some very basic questions

What would be the total cost of Phase I of the Kaleshwaram project by the time it is completed?
When will Phase 1 be completed?
When it is completed, what would be the annual maintenance cost?
How much will the state government spend on each acre for providing water for irrigation?
What would farmers actually get from growing crops with such expensive water?
How will the government recover cost by selling water to industry and domestic users to the tune of Rs 6,000 crore annually?
Now that project has started and a lot of money is being spent, what can be done?

This is typical of irrigation projects. It is a sunken cost fallacy. A lot can still be done to avoid huge costs, by referring the designs to independent experts and incorporating changes. That will save money and avoid huge O&M costs.

The project, as presented in the DPR, will take decades to complete, with a several-fold cost escalation which will plunge the state into a massive debt. Two reports with specific suggestions have been released http://tjaconline.org/documents in November 2018.

The state government can take a serious look at those reports and constitute an independent review of costs, benefits and technical specifications. It is possible to significantly reduce the costs and improve the benefits to farmers provided the government is willing to engage in a serious discussion about the massive project.

Dr Biksham Gujja is a former head of water policy and programme at WWF-International, Switzerland, from 1993-2010. He also worked with Icrisat, UN and major international organisations. He can be contacted at gujjab@gmail.com
 

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Posted on Monday, July 09, 2018 - 07:53 pm:       


Sasibabu:

meeku idhi finish ayithe fortunes reverse avvataniki 3-4 years chaalu opppsitte ways lo



jaggadane vipathhu marichitiva
anduke antunna backup pishhodu(prematho) kavalani
 

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Posted on Monday, July 09, 2018 - 07:45 pm:       


Sasibabu:

ven aft




TRS is ridng on tiger,if they get down (of promises),the tiger (voters) will eat them

They promised water for irrigation and should deliver.The project will breakeven or atleast viable only if it collects the maintenance fee from farmers/user and reduces other free sops drastically

Even after all these,farmers ill still have problems with MSP,yield,disease and demand for the crops
 

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Posted on Monday, July 09, 2018 - 07:38 pm:       


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even after Kaleshwaram you have to loan waivers .. you have to do welfare .. you can’t deny them.. oka place lo lift ante oka rakam .. idhi multiple lifting at multiple levels ... unless some miracle happens on energy front world wide .. this project gonna be a gudhobanda on Telangana economy

Polavaram maaku ... meeku idhi finish ayithe fortunes reverse avvataniki 3-4 years chaalu opppsitte ways lo
 

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Posted on Monday, July 09, 2018 - 07:36 pm:       

three times lift cheyyali that too too much height.

this is pure waste of money project.
 

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Posted on Monday, July 09, 2018 - 07:27 pm:       


Dhonifan:

but yield, is it mentioned in dpr?




http://tspcb.cgg.gov.in/publichearings/Kaleshwaram%20Project %20by%20ICAD,%20GoTS%20-%20Draft%20EIA%20Report.pdf

page 269 paddy increases 5 times
 

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Posted on Monday, July 09, 2018 - 07:25 pm:       


Sp1234:

Hyderabad ni pindi kaleshwaaram lo pedutunnadu.




Yes,I agree 200% this is white elephant.

But even if if you do 100% farm loan waiver and you give Rs 50k per acre every year to every farmer in state and tell them not do farming,will it solves the problem ? Will the farmers abandon farming ? will the farmer suicides stop ?

Apart from lift irrigation ,there is no other alternative in TG.Political parties need votes.Farmers need water .They don't care about the economics and geography.

Do you have any alternate solution?
 

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Posted on Monday, July 09, 2018 - 07:18 pm:       

Telanana ki kaavalsina aaharam mottam middle african countries lo pandinchi Telangana ki import chesina...ee project kantey takkuva kharchey avutundi......//

akkada target state ki aaharam kadhu, raithulaki income
 

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Posted on Monday, July 09, 2018 - 07:17 pm:       

Hyderabad ni pindi kaleshwaaram lo pedutunnadu.

United AP biksha!
 

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Posted on Monday, July 09, 2018 - 07:14 pm:       

Telanana ki kaavalsina aaharam mottam middle african countries lo pandinchi Telangana ki import chesina...ee project kantey takkuva kharchey avutundi......
Inti lopaley kulam, gadapa daatithey manamantha Hinduvulam...
 

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Posted on Monday, July 09, 2018 - 07:14 pm:       

Dabbulu chetlaki kaasthunnai...
We don't hate BJP....BJP mana party...We hate MOSHA...We should find another PM for BJP in 2019
 

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Posted on Monday, July 09, 2018 - 07:13 pm:       

operation cost lite...dabbulunnayi karchupettukuntaru.


but yield, is it mentioned in dpr?
 

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Posted on Monday, July 09, 2018 - 07:11 pm:       

The state government will spend Rs 53,000 per acre every year towards operation and maintenance (O&M) costs of the Kaleshwaram project, while farmers at best may get a benefit of Rs 15,000 per acre.

 

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Posted on Monday, July 09, 2018 - 07:09 pm:       

ungoota chops ..kiki
 

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Posted on Monday, July 09, 2018 - 07:02 pm:       

Kikiki... white elephant .... 20 rupees karchu ki 2 rupees aadayam theesukovhe super ROI
 

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Posted on Monday, July 09, 2018 - 06:55 pm:       

Phase 1: 80000cr
Phase 2: No Estimate
Operations & Maintenance: 14000cr yearly
Benefits: 13000cr agri (total 21000cr including water charges)
All per DPR

Coming to Miracles:

- Yield increases from 12 suggested crops will be from 500 per cent to 900 per cent more than the current figures
- All the produce will get higher prices.

ex: Chilli yield increase 20 times per acre and price benefit increase of 1300 times per acre.

https://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/current-affairs/10071 8/kaleshwaram-project-will-it-sink-the-telanganas-economy.ht ml

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