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Discoveringself Side Hero Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 2383 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 50.4.210.139 Rating: N/A |
The problem is, your first post does not really convey that you think he is such a horrible guy for all religions....and if anything especially even more horrible for other religions...It almost sounds like you just whitewashed Tippu as some sort of hero......and by getting in "Hindu Warriors" reference, you almost made it sound like, there is nothing like his hatred for religion... check Siloan's comment below asking you whether Tippu is a good man..... either we all have a comprehension problem or your opinion about Tippu, as expressed, is overwhelmingly positive....and kinda sounds negating Whyme's post... | ||
Awara1984 Side Hero Username: Awara1984 Post Number: 9171 Registered: 12-2010 Posted From: 14.143.12.233 Rating: N/A |
can you post something related to this my initial understading is that Malabar region became more dominant with Muslim population only after Tippu became the ruler of that region and converted many people and killed many people | ||
Ruj Megastar Username: Ruj Post Number: 22281 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 73.228.241.243 Rating: N/A |
tippu sultan fought many wars against hindu and muslim kingdoms in a bid to extend his empire..but the treatment he gave to people of other religions(hindus and christians) has been well documented..some of it is his own writings.. from melkote and kozhikode brahimns, travancore/malabar nairs.koorg kodavas,to kerala thiyyas , chrisitians he raped, converted,killed and forcibly fed beef and enforced islam.. many british and french writers of that time documented well of his atrocities..he himself(tippu) wrote of his inteded bigotry.. if tippu isnt a bigot, I dont know who else is then.. | ||
Siloan Legend Username: Siloan Post Number: 55256 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 65.24.38.103 Rating: N/A |
ankal flight delay na | ||
Mental_sachinodu Megastar Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 21603 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 73.207.82.91 Rating: N/A |
typos ignore cheyagalaru .. typing from cell | ||
Mental_sachinodu Megastar Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 21602 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 73.207.82.91 Rating: N/A |
hmmm looks like somewhere i have said Tipu is some sort of saint!!! when a question like why potray someone as good or bad, is getting automatically translated as saying he is good... from post number 2, people are claiming he is not a secular king... on the contrary he is a brutal king that was equally dangeorous for all religions. not sure where i meant that his killings are acceptable. if anything, the other posters are the one saying, he is "bad" for a particular religion or religions. to me he is equally "bad" to all religions. if your problem is me not calling him a "bigot", like you have put it, to me my label is my opinion, and when talking about historic figures, putting my opinions dilutes the point i am making. i can speak to what he did, what happened during his times. if me not saying what me means to me is only a diversion. hindsight, looks like its a diversion even if i do not mention my opinion. | ||
Subbarao Side Hero Username: Subbarao Post Number: 2591 Registered: 12-2015 Posted From: 175.101.68.31 Rating: |
em manchodu hindu women ni forceful ga muslim men tho pelli cheyyinchina kunishti munna koduku vaadu K naaku buddhochindi pawan kalyan avathara purushudu mahaneeyudu deena janoddharakudu maryadha purushudu oppukuntunna plzz nannu ban cheyyaddhu | ||
Subbarao Side Hero Username: Subbarao Post Number: 2590 Registered: 12-2015 Posted From: 175.101.68.31 Rating: |
ee tippu sulthan oka daridrudu veedi valla karnataka lo mandya region lo deepavali kooda jarupukoru aa roju narakachathurdhasi roju 800 men ni anyayamga champadu hindu religion thallulni pillalatho kalipi vuri theesevadu battalu lekunda yenugu kaallaki katti vaallu chanipoye daaka thippinche vaadu temples ni thagalapettadu ee mushti munnakoduku gurinchi mana pusthakaallo goppaga cheppadam thuuuuu K naaku buddhochindi pawan kalyan avathara purushudu mahaneeyudu deena janoddharakudu maryadha purushudu oppukuntunna plzz nannu ban cheyyaddhu | ||
Mamamiya786 Megastar Username: Mamamiya786 Post Number: 22363 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 96.73.211.61 Rating: N/A |
http://indianexpress.com/article/india/kerala-10-months-afte r-son-killed-for-conversion-man-embraces-islam-4850160/ ei janalu turuks ga convert avvdamemito .... ei sangh batch gola ento . ittanti vaatiki vachhe publicity ki , sangh karyakarthalani . kerlala lo champutunnappudu raadu .. NE lo kuda cheampesaru ..appudu kuda inthe. Sensation(About Bala):He can win in atleast half of the segments in Rayalaseema. Emi matladutunnavo neeku telusa. He can contest any where in coastal and rayalaseema districts. I personally feel he should contest from Srikakulam dt. Jagan|Modi| | ||
Mamamiya786 Megastar Username: Mamamiya786 Post Number: 22357 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 69.109.128.225 Rating: N/A |
There are incidents ..but majorily conversion is always there . .... tipu is no exclusion .... Sensation(About Bala):He can win in atleast half of the segments in Rayalaseema. Emi matladutunnavo neeku telusa. He can contest any where in coastal and rayalaseema districts. I personally feel he should contest from Srikakulam dt. Jagan|Modi| | ||
Mamamiya786 Megastar Username: Mamamiya786 Post Number: 22356 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 69.109.128.225 Rating: N/A |
At the time of delhi sultanates and mughals .. a lot of migation happened from afganistan to india .. all soldiers came from there. when ever there is a power struggle 100 and thorusands of muslims gets killed among themself ..that way also there is a check to their population growth ... they particiapte a lot in wars and get killed. infact they fight among them selfs in indian soil. Akbars ruling is a great chagne .. Instead of fighting he alwsyd wants peace and he had a corodial relations with rajputs . His 50 years of rule set for next 100 years.. till aurang zeb comes.. the toughest time aurangzeb period .. as long as moghuls are good with hindus , they rules the country s.... As long as aurngzeb fights marthas and rajputs ..he was weakened and their down fall started. strange thing si he dies in 1705 ..but it took almost 150 yeras to dethorne moghuls .. ofcouse literrally moghulsa do not have any power since 1750 onwards .... every where there are small kingsdomes and marthas rose like any thing.... Sensation(About Bala):He can win in atleast half of the segments in Rayalaseema. Emi matladutunnavo neeku telusa. He can contest any where in coastal and rayalaseema districts. I personally feel he should contest from Srikakulam dt. Jagan|Modi| | ||
Mamamiya786 Megastar Username: Mamamiya786 Post Number: 22355 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 69.109.128.225 Rating: N/A |
Persistence .... A lot of kings realizeed that they have to be good with the marjoriyt of the people , since then we started surviving .. Actually we lost 30 to 40 percent of land and 1/3 rid of people converted to musltims.. For muslims to reach delhi , it took 500 years.. Qasim first attcked sindh in around 700 ... from that time to win delhit 1192. is almost 500 years .. By that time whole of pakistan part of afghanistan int muslim kabja. sitll. 30 percent of people are hindus . By 1947. about 20 percen tof people are hindus in pakistan. From 1192 1847 , 650 years ... we lost whole of bangla desh and 20 percent of population of rest of india. and whole kashimr to muslims ... Compared to indonesia malaysia .. we gave brave fight ... indo nesia and Malaysia converted muslim countries witn no time..(30-40 years ?) Great zorastrians. were finished in 50 years... When compared to them.. we survived .. thanks to rajputs obedience and marthas fight to muslims. i have a great respect for northies and marthas for their struggle aginsst muslims ... hats off to them.. Sensation(About Bala):He can win in atleast half of the segments in Rayalaseema. Emi matladutunnavo neeku telusa. He can contest any where in coastal and rayalaseema districts. I personally feel he should contest from Srikakulam dt. Jagan|Modi| | ||
Discoveringself Side Hero Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 2382 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 50.4.210.139 Rating: N/A |
why doubt?....  ......
the idea that he waged wars with other muslims does not automatically qualify him as not having hatred towards other religions...he is a bigot... he has so many horrific shades, doesn't negate the fact that he is intolerant to other religions..... he might have fights with other muslims kings for power.....and probably fought bloody wars with them.....and it could be for political reasons... but killing innocent civilians and torturing them to convert cannot be washed away because he had political opponents and he fought wars with muslims too...... just bcoz ISIS is fighting some muslim faction...it doesn't negate the fact that they are intolerant towards other religions.......and will convert or kill or enslave forcibly once they take control of any region/area....to the best of their abilities.... | ||
Mental_sachinodu Megastar Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 21601 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 50.241.19.41 Rating: N/A |
detail tipu gurinchaa... lol lekaa naa gurinchaaa.... anyways.. me signing off for today.. traveling for next three days | ||
Discoveringself Side Hero Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 2381 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 136.2.16.185 Rating: N/A |
meeting now...in detail later | ||
Mental_sachinodu Megastar Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 21600 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 50.241.19.41 Rating: N/A |
its because of the sheer number of kingdoms, and the layered nature of hinduism(read caste system) and segregation that came out of it. If not cassettes, I feel it would have been easier for hindus to be converted. | ||
Mental_sachinodu Megastar Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 21599 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 50.241.19.41 Rating: N/A |
I am not sure if I try to be balanced... or is there a compulsion on my side. I am a flawed person by nature, and to me there are that things that are more concrete than I am. Probably my compulsion is to be able to see things as concretely as possible, and when there is no reason for me to be taking a certain side, i typically wont. there are instances where i support or not support based on some emotion, where i dont need a real reason. Coming to Tipu sultan, many people who argue that he is not secular, will or can provide details or articles supporting their argument. but that is necessary but not a sufficient reason to label him one way or the other. Like someone here posted the plight of some hindu groups, i would ask them to read about the malabar muslims war with tipu sultan. Like I mentioned he fought bloody wars all through his life... and he was repsonsible for thousands of war causalities. Is it religion based, i do not have sufficient reason to believe so. His opponents were political in nature, and it spanned across all religions. Between, the conversation need not be about me. It does not matter what i think is right or wrong, if i make a wrong observation then I can correct it. My deductions shouldnt matter. The reason i said, ignore good or bad when reading history... is for the simple reason that, we will only tend to read that identifies with our leaning. if thats the case, is there even a need to read history? | ||
Last_avataar Hero Username: Last_avataar Post Number: 10471 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 139.71.144.7 Rating: N/A |
Unsung Heroics Hindu Kingdoms (our media and history, conveniently ignores and attributes great qualities to These luchas as secular like Mughals, Tipu etc) Strong religious fundamentals, Vast Diverse country, Bhakti movement, etc are the main reasons, the Islamic wave that engulfed entire Asia, could make an impact but could not make in toto | ||
Movieanalyst Junior Artist Username: Movieanalyst Post Number: 91 Registered: 10-2017 Posted From: 144.230.44.151 Rating: N/A |
What I dont understand, tulak rulers forced conversions, Christians forced conversions, still how so much hindusm left in India? | ||
Enigmatic Comedian Username: Enigmatic Post Number: 1427 Registered: 11-2010 Posted From: 100.34.214.219 Rating: N/A |
he was not a secular person as he is depicted. he did force people into converting and tortured people who did not. he was trying to protect his kingdom. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captivity_of_Nairs_at_Seringap atam https://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/current-affairs/08111 6/why-do-coorgs-dislike-tipu-sultan.html | ||
Brightlife34 Junior Artist Username: Brightlife34 Post Number: 689 Registered: 11-2017 Posted From: 160.83.72.208 Rating: N/A |
...I understand ur need/compulsion to be so totally balanced....but that doesnt mean u need to come up with erroneous comparisons and conclusions.....to make sure u don't belong nowhere.....and perfectly balanced in the middle.....// endukayya andarni edo Desha bhakti, hindu bhakti leni valla laga chesthaavu.. modi mari Buddha and profet ni shanthi dootalu ani annadu kada.. endukanta diplomatic stance modi kurrodiki, it was a known fact that in 600s he waged multiple wars, under teen ammayni pelli seskundu, enno goraalu sesadu, mari 4 votela kosam enta padatley.. you could be right, kaani aipoindanni meeda enduku, kaastha aa popln control meeda emanna policies cheyyamanu govt ni, rabble rousing speeches and agenda toh emi kavu, aa UP Bihar to fertility rate 3+ undi | ||
Discoveringself Side Hero Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 2378 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 136.2.16.185 Rating: N/A |
agree....always looking as black and white, may not be right.......but using that logic to brush the darkest black as shades of gray may be disingenuous.... the problem is not with fight or war....the problem is the ideology...I understand ur need/compulsion to be so totally balanced....but that doesnt mean u need to come up with erroneous comparisons and conclusions.....to make sure u don't belong nowhere.....and perfectly balanced in the middle..... | ||
Chanakya Side Hero Username: Chanakya Post Number: 6576 Registered: 04-2015 Posted From: 149.111.28.128 Rating: N/A |
kings at that time were mainly fighting for their kingdom, be it against Maratha's or British or French. so Tippu was freedom fighter for his kingdom not India. No one is going to tell you the truth. They’re only going to tell you their version! ~Julian Assange | ||
Mental_sachinodu Megastar Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 21598 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 50.241.19.41 Rating: N/A |
 again black and white ... lets just know about him and let it be .. manchi chedu... decide chesi emi cheyalem kadha... he is part of our history... whether we like it or not. he waged wars all his life... most concentrate on wars with hindus... but they dont see that he waged wars with other muslim kings as well, even with Nizam(the richest king), while he was a friend of Napolean(a christiam)... sooo... | ||
Siloan Legend Username: Siloan Post Number: 55143 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 65.24.38.103 Rating: N/A |
manchodena aithe | ||
Mental_sachinodu Megastar Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 21597 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 50.241.19.41 Rating: |
Granted tipu sultan religous legacy is contentious... the way he handled sringeri conflict of maratha-mysore wars is admirable. Maratha's so called "Hindu" warriors, plundered monastries and temples...ofcourse there is another angle to the story.. which is the conflict between brhamins and marathas.... like i always say, dont look at history as black and white.. | ||
Savyasachi Side Hero Username: Savyasachi Post Number: 2265 Registered: 12-2013 Posted From: 71.203.102.171 Rating: N/A |
tippu sultan bottu pettukoda endi ra nee bondha. | ||
Supremehero Junior Artist Username: Supremehero Post Number: 401 Registered: 09-2017 Posted From: 157.48.29.157 Rating: N/A |
Aray aray tippu sultan bottu pettukunadu... Cinemalo matham. Marchesaremo..  | ||
Last_avataar Hero Username: Last_avataar Post Number: 10468 Registered: 09-2012 Posted From: 139.71.144.4 Rating: N/A |
Pedda Bussu Video Fan Evado copy paste chesina video... | ||
Nanigadulocal Side Hero Username: Nanigadulocal Post Number: 7719 Registered: 09-2016 Posted From: 70.178.104.45 Rating: N/A |
Rajamouli Mahabharatham trailor kudaa untadhi sarigaa chudandii... Ellandi eheee fan made tralior ikkadaa share hesi malli dani meedha disco okatiii Chussss DB standards !!! | ||
Dma Megastar Username: Dma Post Number: 20299 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 70.184.85.54 Rating: N/A |
aa entrance scene balayya GPSK lo copy kottinatlu vundi. Jai Andhra!! Jai Jai Andhra!!! | ||
Jambalahaart_raja Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja Post Number: 8673 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 24.46.104.175 Rating: N/A |
yovvv fan made concept trailer adi... nijam anukuneru.. "Chill Bro. I told you to let it go!!" - The Budhha. | ||
Emc2 Legend Username: Emc2 Post Number: 68676 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 71.127.33.124 Rating: N/A |
Desam must be crazy Eedu freedom fighter enti aadi pindakudu | ||
Mamamiya786 Megastar Username: Mamamiya786 Post Number: 22337 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 69.109.128.225 Rating: |
bokkale ..DNK gadu .. Majority hindus ni kiling chesadu .. convert chestadu .. vadi rajyam kapadukovadaniki britishers tho fight chesadu .. Sensation(About Bala):He can win in atleast half of the segments in Rayalaseema. Emi matladutunnavo neeku telusa. He can contest any where in coastal and rayalaseema districts. I personally feel he should contest from Srikakulam dt. Jagan|Modi| | ||
Brightlife34 Junior Artist Username: Brightlife34 Post Number: 681 Registered: 11-2017 Posted From: 107.72.164.80 Rating: N/A |
History as written by congress | ||
Dhonifan Hero Username: Dhonifan Post Number: 15838 Registered: 12-2012 Posted From: 98.160.133.174 Rating: N/A |
fan made aa? bala sathakarni scenes kuda unnatlu unnayi | ||
Whyme Megastar Username: Whyme Post Number: 25057 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 172.73.186.98 Rating: |
Tippu freedom fighter aa.. vadu conqueror first.. he persecuted christians and Hindus to no end.. vaadi kingdom kosam fighting sesad Vaadu freedom fighter entra mee bonda | ||
Movieanalyst Junior Artist Username: Movieanalyst Post Number: 82 Registered: 10-2017 Posted From: 75.87.171.82 Rating: N/A |
https://youtu.be/MgB17Xk6qyE Mummotty hero |
