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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 11:07 pm:       


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now that is interesting. is it possible . to ensure if all the offshore firms hired US citizens for this, so accurately?


It is not. so there are geographical limitations on how data can be used. there are laws but loopholes as well.

Ee experience lo I seriously doubt there will be a criminal. there might be a crime. Most favorable outcome is to figure out where leaks are and plug them. antha kanna ekkuva asinchatam ledu..

Exposure to these kind of investigations **may** drive people to realize everything that is on internet or came via tweet may not be true. we just cant lock up people based on that. we will start to look for credibility of source. We will be forced to use our filters!!
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 11:03 pm:       


Rocketk2:

doesnt mean we should ignore the potential threats.




not at all. just pointed that it could have gone unnoticed.

oka pakka this helped trump. inko pakka chance to go after the tech companies. right to forget laaga , edaina law vastadi emo by digging this
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 10:58 pm:       


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in spite of the ads, madam goru gelsunte picha light tiskune vallu ee issue ni imo.


brother, problem acknowledge chesthune.. alternate hypothesis meedha concentration endhuku :-)

You may be right. If Hillary won, their impact could not be measured completely. But this election might have exposed how vulnerable the democratic election process has become and how these data manipulators are sending trojan horses thru internet age companies.
Hillary is done. she contested she lost.. doesnt mean we should ignore the potential threats. CA is said to start being the sought out client by more political parties across the world.. go figure !!

Few years back, I read an article on a MBA prep site called 800score(or something like that). on the front it was a discussion board like this where exam takers gather and prepare thru media but there was also concealed questionnaire being built and circulated for subscribed members. took a while but it was caught analyzing the patterns of scores of individuals. They even went as far as evaluating cancellation of MBA degree for people who participated in that website over period of 2 -3 yrs( they couldnt do it legally, so they ended up sending a strongly worded email not to indulge with such websites).

most crimes go unnoticed when they are under radar. most criminals try to go under the radar. it's only the dumb ones that put spotlight on themselves!!
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 10:50 pm:       


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n total, more than a dozen foreigners, including Britons and Canadians, filled strategic roles in campaigns across the US.

i read few more articles yesterday but this is what I remember top of my head




thanks for the link. now that is interesting. is it possible . to ensure if all the offshore firms hired US citizens for this, so accurately?

endo ee amrika valla elections, vote este kaani ardham kaadu :D
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 10:47 pm:       

the targeted ads on twtr and fb- NYT and wapo could have been interrogated if they had similar ads on their papers.

ee social media sites ki free pass ichesaaru anedi oka vaadana. adi valid point, but foreign govts similar point raise chesinapudu care cheyaru ee websites usually.

in spite of the ads, madam goru gelsunte picha light tiskune vallu ee issue ni imo.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 10:45 pm:       


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working on US elections - as in what capacity ?



https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/17/cambridge-an alytica-non-american-employees-political
Cambridge Analytica employed non-American citizens to work on US election campaigns in apparent violation of federal law, despite receiving a legal warning about the risks.
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In total, more than a dozen foreigners, including Britons and Canadians, filled strategic roles in campaigns across the US.

i read few more articles yesterday but this is what I remember top of my head
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 10:41 pm:       


Jambalahaart_raja:

olitical Advertising cannot be morally, ethically, legally compared with Commercial Advertising. Wrong doings in Political Advertising and Marketing Campaigns can result in unwanted outcomes, such as Trump becoming the President Elect, possibly Dictatorship in the case of another regime, political unrest and chaos etc etc, the outcome could be anything and unknown and the social-fabric of the entire country is at stake. Commercial advertising wrong-doings will, anyways, hit only one company, or a competitor, or a niche-market, but won't impact the social-fabric of a nation.




idi chala grey area kada. for ejjample, arab spring lo ee twtr and fb ni use cheskuni akkada govts paddayi.
think about it from the ruling establishment pov .
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 10:41 pm:       


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working on US elections - as in what capacity ?




dont u know ..tump ki vesina votes anni foreign nationals vesinave
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 10:37 pm:       


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The real problem is that they had foreign nationals working on US elections.




working on US elections - as in what capacity ?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 10:27 pm:       

But all these things point towards the reach of Russians in US politics. they managed to do with internet what they could not with nukes.
This is way bigger than Trump. Troll factories generally are commercial, they rely in click bait articles to generate traffic and thru that money.
In this case, these were targeted to create political confusion and chaos by foreign nationals while fb's and Googles and Trump campaign ended up being 'useful idiots'
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 10:20 pm:       


Viswamitra:

this is similar to what CA did no..or am i missing something ? if any mistake is done the axe shud be targeted against FB even before CA....


sadly, you are 100% right. CA might have done some thing unethically but it has done nothing illegally as far as anything that is revealed.. yet!!

most of us are conflating stuff to make this Cambridge Analytica story feel more sinister than it is. It is easy to lump in the discomfort of big data analytics with the actual accusations against the company. Lots of companies are engaged in doing big data analytics on people's data. Facebooks and googles of the world already have multiple departments doing it.

The problem for CA is that they stole this data by asking for it for academic research and then commercializing(politicizing) it. It could legally constitute as a contractual dispute. For Facebook users, their beef should be with Facebook who didn't protect them, not CA.

The real problem is that they had foreign nationals working on US elections. This part is illegal, if proven. It is more like a process crime than an accusation of malice. and this is where I have been insisting, since last January, that the language is coordination not collusion. If any cross mapping data were share by Trump Campaign, they could land in trouble

Finally, it is sad times that a company is analyzing information they volunteered to know how to politically manipulate them and that's legal.
But you are right, If we don't like that, we need to go after Facebook, Google like companies that collect data on us and decide themselves who gets to use it.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 08:55 pm:       


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Mueller babai ki manchi beram thagilindi ippudu.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 07:12 pm:       


Viswamitra:

ok so wht did trump do



Allegations are about Russian involvement. Trump need not do anything, yedo rakangaa joined hands with Russians before all of this began ani prove chesthey chaalu. Russian involvement gains weight and traction, because those personalized ads generated by third-party ad-agencies, and not FB itself, are politically motivated.

FB opened and shared data with CA. The latter bought it, processed it, and began assigning ads, or through other ad-agencies, hosted personalized ads back on FB, without FB applying any kind of Censorship.

Political Advertising cannot be morally, ethically, legally compared with Commercial Advertising. Wrong doings in Political Advertising and Marketing Campaigns can result in unwanted outcomes, such as Trump becoming the President Elect, possibly Dictatorship in the case of another regime, political unrest and chaos etc etc, the outcome could be anything and unknown and the social-fabric of the entire country is at stake. Commercial advertising wrong-doings will, anyways, hit only one company, or a competitor, or a niche-market, but won't impact the social-fabric of a nation.

Scale of impact batti, scrunity necessity vuntadi kada vankul.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 06:49 pm:       


Jambalahaart_raja:

personal gaa voter ni nee vaipu coerce cheskunte, adi unpolitical ye kada.



ok so wht did trump do, has he given any "tangible" benefits to these social media users like a beer can, discount coupons etc., no right

he used their digital foot print to influence their political decision right ? so how is it different from any form of advertisement ??
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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 06:41 pm:       


Viswamitra:

legally cant providers mine users data?




Jambalahaart_raja:

personal gaa voter ni nee vaipu coerce cheskunte, adi unpolitical ye kada.



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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 06:24 pm:       


Jambalahaart_raja:

legally unpolitical




ethically pakkana pettu...legally cant providers mine users data? google tracks each and every move right....

i worked for a firm earlier which provides 4G hotspots in public places , coffee shops...only watsapp and FB can be used...before using you need to sign in , which has a privacy agreement which says they can use their activity for commercial , social and political purposes...we mine that data to gain insights...

this is similar to what CA did no..or am i missing something ? if any mistake is done the axe shud be targetted against FB even before CA....

btw https://applymagicsauce.com idey pani chestundii....michael kosinski has roots here...
he is currently stanford prof and earlier founders of cambridge analytica...
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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 06:16 pm:       

Facebook is a social media company. They rely on our data. We are their products. They sell our data, our comments, likes blah blah to other companies and make money off it in the form of ads etc. We gave them permission to do whatever they want with it. As a responsible company they are supposed to safegaurd it. We cannot sue them. May be FTC will go after them for being reckless with user data. But I dont think what they did is a felony or illegal????. FTC may be interested because this whole russia meddling and elections crap.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 06:14 pm:       


Viswamitra:

gidi tappu etlay tadi ???



commercial gaa car ammuko, property ammuko...
bending and twisting personalized political messages, ads and electorate's stand on certain topics like LGBT pride or Mexican Wall etc based on FB's data is morally, ethically, legally unpolitical.
If you are a candidate, every voter ni personally kalavalevu kaabatti public event organize cheskuni public gaa message pass chesthey agreed. vopiggaa every voter ni kalisi, oka beer, oka biriyani ichhi, personal gaa voter ni nee vaipu coerce cheskunte, adi unpolitical ye kada.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 06:11 pm:       


Viswamitra:





Data belongs to FB. The ads are served by FB. But is it legal to allow other companies to mine user data?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 06:05 pm:       


Ringo_rangaswamy:




most of the ads that you see are targetted ads based on browsing history likes etc etc., what CA did is also same no ??
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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 05:58 pm:       


Viswamitra:





Data ammuku denkatam illegal kavochemo!!! For their use is ok kavochu.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 05:51 pm:       


Maverick:



social media profile ad targetting is there since inception of FB. how is this different ??

In the ocean of digital footprints taken by CA, FB is one source...it is primarily used to phrase the "hear beat" words of the electorate...i.e those words which they want to hear from their favourite politicians or those politicians who wnat to become electorate's favourite....gidi tappu etlay tadi ???
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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 05:17 pm:       

cambridge board suspends ceo..between FB held up decent today after epic crash..not too bad
There's a cacophony in the truth, A melody in lies and it accompanies one on every journey, From the lows to the highs
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 05:15 pm:       

Cambridge Analytica bought the data from FB, ran some programs and devised targeted ads sponsored by Russian companies favoring Trump, again on FB only.
Is what the allegations all about.
And Zuck is currently in hiding.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 04:54 pm:       


Hadoop:






https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/20/world/europe/cambridge-an alytica-ceo-suspended.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&c lickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=t op-news&WT.nav=top-news






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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 12:21 am:       

tump haters and demthugs papam zacu meeda kasi terchukontunnaru share ammesi...kiki
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 12:14 am:       

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2018/03/19/u s/cambridge-analytica-alexander-nix.amp.html
They do a little more than data analytics
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 12:11 am:       

And European Union

https://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyolson/2018/03/19/eu-probe- facebook-cambridge-analytica-fines/#72db5a785fd6
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 12:08 am:       

IF PROFILES are stolen, how can it impact people decision to vote and Trump victory...

Last minute varaku Hillary is clear winner ani cheppi, ippudu russia influence tokka toku ani covering

Accept guys US voted for Trump
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 12:07 am:       

Even UK is investigating it

TIME
âVerified account @TIME
16m16 minutes ago

The U.K. is seeking a warrant for access to Cambridge Analytica's servers
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 12:04 am:       

https://youtu.be/zb6-xz-geH4
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 12:01 am:       

Facebook is investigating something on it

and this is the same organization which is leading the social media campaign of congress in India

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