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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 03:28 pm:       

No worries here.
Have your friend's new employer file another H1 (transfer) immediately.
Review the real reason for the denial and fix that issue or if its not mandatory , avoid such clauses in the new petition.

Here is the fact:
1) H1 is not singleton. Each employer owns their own petition(approved or denied).
2) There is NOTHING called TRANSFER of a visa in the Immigration books, each time we are applying for a NEW H1 petition(only diff is, if it needs to be counted in the new quota or it was a part of previous quota).
3) If a H1 is denied due to the issues with employer(including the job details, wages etc), Employer should file another petition by fixing those issues. This doesnt impact another employer filing for the same candidate.
4) If a H1 is denied due to the fraud etc on the employee(candidate) part, regardless of any employer, all H1s suffer for the same candidate.

Having said that, there is nothing to be worried. Nice analysis and mitigation of the issue can be handled.

Also lately there is an extended (around 60 days??) period of grace period to find alternative employer if a petition is Denied.
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 03:25 pm:       


Mahiz:

ante deny aithe malli apply cheyocha .. same employer tho .. if so, in what cases ?


yes malli re file cheyochu , my friend did and he got approved.
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 03:17 pm:       


Brodipet_baadshah:

inthaki paatha h1ni cancel chesuntaadaa infy?


Yes ee paatiki cancellation ki submission aipoyi untadi...

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 03:15 pm:       


Mahiz:

But i am afraid , if i go for premium processing for the current petition .. it may be like i am fastforwarding the ineveitable (because my current company is a very small consulting company)


for you to be safe, you need to fast forward the result - whatever it might be..if your previous h1 hasn't been revoked, then you don't have to fast forward it..

in your case, you know a withdrawal has already been submitted..so if you fast forward the result, you will have a choice if the petition is denied..else you have to swim with your hands tied
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 03:07 pm:       


Jp_rocks:

so it is in your best interest to upgrade your current h1 to premium...




Thank you anna for these details ..
But i am afraid , if i go for premium processing for the current petition .. it may be like i am fastforwarding the ineveitable (because my current company is a very small consulting company)
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 03:04 pm:       

Thank you all for providing lot of info in this thread.

Fingers Crossed.
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 03:04 pm:       


Mahiz:

nenu kinda cheppina petition .. lo i94 date is until this july .. will that help in any case ?


it will help if you get a denial on your current petition AND your previous h1 isn't revoked yet (it doesn't look like it has been revoked)..

these are the situations you can be in:

1. Approval on current petition - your prev h1/i-94 validity is a moot point here
2. Denial on current petition before July 2018 AND your prev H1 hasn't yet been revoked by USCIS - you are in valid status (without work authorization) so you need to file for another H1 immediately
3. Denial on current petition before July 2018 AND your prev H1 has been revoked by USCIS - you are out of status from the date your prev H1 is revoked..so you need to file for another H1 immediately and when it is approved, go to india get it stamped and come back
4. Denial on current petition after july 2018 - you are out of status..need to file another H1 and when it is approved, go to india get it stamped and come back

so it is in your best interest to upgrade your current h1 to premium...
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 03:01 pm:       

Circa 2008. Some date in August. I got news that my H1-B Transfer was rejected.
Cut chesi flash-back loki velthey, I came to US through Infosys H1-B in May 2007.
2 months, 2 pay-slips ke transfer pettesaa, to a consulting company because I so badly wanted to quit Infy. SPM asked in exit interview, aren't you ashamed? I said, I am not, when Infy is not ashamed when my short-term transfer allowance requests were denied by PMs and SPMs in India, while visiting cities like Pune and B'lore for 4 week and 5 week stays for Project related travel, then why I should I be ashamed for leaving a company like that, before or after H1-B Visa, does it even matter?
Anyhow, did not initiate Premium Processing with Visa Transfer Case to Consulting company.
The transfer case took it's sweet time.
Meanwhile, some angel investor from Chicago dumped some money into the consulting company. After 4 months turned out, that angel investor had fraud charges and investigations ongoing in Chicago. Consulting company was black-listed, after a few months my transfer case got RFE, after replying to RFE and upgrading to Premium, Case denied in August.
Quickly moved to another Consulting company, been with them now for close to 10 years. I am now a Cash Cow. They have never made so much money with any consultant, even in terms of hourly rates, I am a record-break.

When H1 Extensions and Transfers are denied, you'll get grace period of 30 to 60 days, that'll be specified in the Denial document. Find another company and file H1 Transfer with Premium. Without Premium is also just fine, a pending H1 Case with valid I-94 is sufficient reason not to be deported. All the very best.
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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 02:57 pm:       


Jp_rocks:

yeah - same employer tho malli file cheyachu..anni cases lo cheyachu....the only catch is, if the previous h1 is not valid - the beneficiary will get an I-797 without I-94..so he needs to go back, attend stamping and then come back


nenu kinda cheppina petition .. lo i94 date is until this july .. will that help in any case ?
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 02:56 pm:       


Mahiz:

"On December 7, 2017, we received your correspondence for Form I-129, Petition for a Nonimmigrant Worker"

Does this mean, previous company withdrew the petition, because i have moved out on Oct 1,2017


they received application for revoking. not revoked yet
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 02:55 pm:       


Mahiz:

ante deny aithe malli apply cheyocha .. same employer tho .. if so, in what cases ?


yeah - same employer tho malli file cheyachu..anni cases lo cheyachu....the only catch is, if the previous h1 is not valid - the beneficiary will get an I-797 without I-94..so he needs to go back, attend stamping and then come back
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 02:53 pm:       


Mahiz:

Does this mean, previous company withdrew the petition, because i have moved out on Oct 1,2017


looks like they sent a withdrawal notice to uscis
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 02:52 pm:       


Jp_rocks:

yep...both are approved with consular processing - meaning they have to leave the country and attend visa stamping




ante deny aithe malli apply cheyocha .. same employer tho .. if so, in what cases ?
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 02:51 pm:       


Brighton:

what does this mean, deny ayyaka marla apply cheste approve ayinda


yep...both are approved with consular processing - meaning they have to leave the country and attend visa stamping
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 02:50 pm:       

inka previous H1 cancel cheyyakunte.. vere company ki inko transfer pettukomanu.. atleast status lo untadu
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 02:49 pm:       


Brodipet_baadshah:

vere employernunchi malli apply cheddam anukuntunnaadu



Urgent ga idi cheseyyamanu.
Mahaa ayithe he will get approval but not I94.
Ala bayataki velli, ila stamping cheyyinchukoni Ravadame.
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 02:47 pm:       


Mahiz:



looks like old employer sent a letter for something...not revoked yet
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 02:44 pm:       

Just checked with old case number ..

USCIS page shows the below

"On December 7, 2017, we received your correspondence for Form I-129, Petition for a Nonimmigrant Worker"

Does this mean, previous company withdrew the petition, because i have moved out on Oct 1,2017
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 02:44 pm:       

talking to attorney is always safest.

I believe a person can be out of status for less than 180 days, without effecting his potential legal admissibility. This is the law (unless something changed in last few years)
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 02:42 pm:       


Mahiz:




Yeah check with old case no
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 02:41 pm:       


Brighton:

receipt no





patha employer h1b petition number tho check chesthe okay na .. my transfer is also in progress and hearing lot of these denials these days
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 02:40 pm:       

if the previous employer revoked his H1B,

and

if he got paid,

he is out of status
Jai Andhra!! Jai Jai Andhra!!!
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 02:40 pm:       


Mahiz:



receipt no
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 02:39 pm:       


Jp_rocks:

i've seen two cases where a denial is followed by an approval.



what does this mean, deny ayyaka marla apply cheste approve ayinda
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 02:38 pm:       

how can we check whether the previous employer petition is still active or not
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 02:38 pm:       

denials left and right :-(
Nothing succeeds like success !
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 02:35 pm:       

too many denials in recent weeks...just too many..

have your friend check the status of his Infy H1 online...if it is still active, he is technically not out of status...ventane inko h1 file cheyatame

i've seen two cases where a denial is followed by an approval..iddaru out of status ayyaru (as their previous h1 expired) so they are leaving the country to get h1 stamping done to get back to US
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 02:24 pm:       

Even for amendment now employer filed as software developer, instead of computer programmer or what ever.....
sachipotava , avineethi ga batukutava okkate option ante alochinchakunda chachipotaa ane type cbn - OT
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 02:14 pm:       

Within 60 days in the new comp ithe inko daniki transfer chesukomanu.. I94 expire ayyi vundadu kabatti options vundochu.. talking to attorney is better
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 02:12 pm:       

If it's transfer I think the current employer still holds h1b, so no need to worry if it's extn denied then real pain starts, if current employer is ok not to cancel or revoke he is fine I think
sachipotava , avineethi ga batukutava okkate option ante alochinchakunda chachipotaa ane type cbn - OT
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 02:09 pm:       


Brodipet_baadshah:

Naadhi kuda sept,2016loo same to same systems analyst rolenamethoo baane approve ayindhi..adhe maavaadiki use chesthe ippudu ilaa ayindhi chuss


2016 veru, ippudu veru

job title and occupation title both systems analyst aa in lca?

its better to apply thru client now if his old h1 is not revoked yet
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 02:03 pm:       

I-94 date inkaa vundhaa? If yes find new employer chimpulu ..q
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 02:00 pm:       


Dhonifan:

infy nunchi client ki full time transfer ayyada?


nope..infy nunchi adhe clientki thru different employer join ayyaadu contract to hire basis meedha..ippudu vere employer or clientnunchi directgaa h1 try cheyochaa ani doubt..maa employeremoo malli appeal cheddaam okasari attorneythoi maatladi antunnaadu..emavthundhoo emoo paapam maavaadi paristhithi..maa employer superehessani nene set chesaaa ippudemoo ilaa ayindhi :-(
Naadhi kuda sept,2016loo same to same systems analyst rolenamethoo baane approve ayindhi..adhe maavaadiki use chesthe ippudu ilaa ayindhi chuss
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 01:44 pm:       

so infy nunchi client ki full time transfer ayyada?
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 01:15 pm:       


Brodipet_baadshah:

vere employernunchi malli apply cheddam anukuntunnaadu..kudhuruthundhaa alaa? Indianunchi cheyochaa?




grey area annai... top lawyers ichey salaha aythey go out and come back in...
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 01:12 pm:       


Brodipet_baadshah:


try cheyamandi or same employer re filw, heard this happens to frd of frd..and his h1 aproved but he left tpnidnia then stamping lo 221g...
sachipotava , avineethi ga batukutava okkate option ante alochinchakunda chachipotaa ane type cbn - OT
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 01:09 pm:       


Sannayi_nokkulu:

14 days time istadu to Go back
.as usual ippudinna situatin lo Anni sardukuni vundali so 4 days lo jump


vere employernunchi malli apply cheddam anukuntunnaadu..kudhuruthundhaa alaa? Indianunchi cheyochaa?
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 01:08 pm:       


Brodipet_baadshah:

inthaki paatha h1ni cancel chesuntaadaa infy?




who knows... you got to ask right... these days all attorneys are pretty strict in closing loop on unused H1Bs.

Appeal process untadi kada.. appeal chesi inkonchem time untadi... inko company thro try cheyochu emo... lawyer ni adagandi...
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 01:07 pm:       


Brodipet_baadshah:




Old case status uscis site lo chudu revoked or not
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 01:05 pm:       


Brodipet_baadshah:

Emaina grace period type untundhaa?




technically he is out of status... but prevoius i-94 lo inka date untey 2-3 weeks grace period untadi to clear out everything and move...
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 01:04 pm:       


Vishvak:


ante same clientki join ayyadannai..soo obviously infy raised concerns...soo konchem messup ayindhi aa tymloo...dis happened in August..noo premium processingden..jan beginningloo rfeki response isthe ippudu ilaa ayindhi...inthaki paatha h1ni cancel chesuntaadaa infy?
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 01:01 pm:       

Mostly they will take some time to revoke.. in my case they revoked after 4 months
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 01:01 pm:       


Brodipet_baadshah:


14 days time istadu to Go back
.as usual ippudinna situatin lo Anni sardukuni vundali so 4 days lo jump
sachipotava , avineethi ga batukutava okkate option ante alochinchakunda chachipotaa ane type cbn - OT
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 12:57 pm:       


Brodipet_baadshah:

previous employer infythoo godavapadi bayatakochaadu


Godava padatam enti? velletappudu silent gaa povaali kaani?

Vi veri universum vivus vici
 

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Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 12:55 pm:       

Maa frnddhi h1 transfer deny ayindhi..monneppudoo speciality occupation gurinchi rfe padindhi annaadu...maa employergaadu dheeniki proper response elaa ivvaaloo maaku thelusule mem cheskuntaam ani vaadiki bharosaichaadu..ninna ni8 saradagaa websiteloo status chusthe denied ani vundhanta paapam..previous employer infythoo godavapadi bayatakochaadu..vaadu h1 cancel chesuntaadu ippudu ee fresh h1 deny ayindhi kabatti veedippudu out of statusloo vunnattaa? Emaina grace period type untundhaa? Btw petetionloo mention chesina vaadi role SYSTEMS ANALYST:-(

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