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My Take on Roger-Rafa's H2H Stats

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Posted on Friday, November 10, 2017 - 12:46 pm:       


Oceanseven:

Fed game chooda muchatagaa vuntundhi,grace vuntundhi, aah Rafa gaadi game Jr NTR dances lekka dhabidi dhibidi anthey


baa seppaav... aa barre game soodalante saana opika undaali
 

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Posted on Friday, November 10, 2017 - 12:08 pm:       


Film_fan:

Fed fans find times when he has bad form...to justify head to head.




Fed did a trick this year to improve the h2h
He did so by skipping clay season completely

If he had done this earlier for 2-3 years, the h2h would have evened out by now

Even during few of his slam-less years 2011,2013-16, Fed was playing Nadal on clay

If Nadal having a better h2h against Fedex, makes him a better player
then Nadal losing to other lesser ranked players in early rounds and not reaching QFs, SFs stage where he could meet Federer, what would that make him? - a lesser player then lesser ranked players?
 

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Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2017 - 06:09 pm:       


Oceanseven:

Fed ki Rafa ki comparison endhi ? Fed game chooda muchatagaa vuntundhi,grace vuntundhi, aah Rafa gaadi game Jr NTR dances lekka dhabidi dhibidi anthey




gidaithee 100% correct!
CHIRU - SACHIN - FEDERER
 

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Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2017 - 06:07 pm:       


Film_fan:

wimbledon final 2008



mana peddollu annattu....this is like Javed Miandad's sixer which put a dent in India's belief.......that was a big blow for King....a big metal block he was unable to overcome for years!!
CHIRU - SACHIN - FEDERER
 

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Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2017 - 01:46 pm:       

Another thing is Rafa being a Leftie easily used to Target his backhand on regular intervals and Roger had to run around to convert them to his forehand and in the process loosing those extra seconds and also whenever he played the cross court backhand it was going straight into Rafa's Strong Zone
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When Fed played its like is playing tennis this easy? thats how natural it was for him....it was a gift...it was this play that bought him die hard fans....

coming to getting easy because he is leftie......Rafa didnt have the natural rythym Fed had.....Rafa had to fight it out...and put his body through too much stress to even match this great gifted player....

thats where for me Nadal is a hero.....he fought.....all others like Roddick....Safin....whoever have given up.....but Nadal fought.....fought on surfaces he was not fancied....fought one of the best guys to play ever....and then.....made that guy succumb to the barrage of shots....

today....how many fed fans out there are waiting for one urine sample of Nadala to go wrong to pounce.........mmmmm....not going to happen may be...he is that champ.....may be he is that fighter....who fought odds and defeated the best ever....again....again and again.....


mana bias.....dhi emundhi.....i admire Nadal....

but for me what' surprising is that...Fed fans find times when he has bad form...to justify head to head....


no offence.....chaala orjulu ayyindhi...sports thread loki vacchi
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
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Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2017 - 01:43 pm:       


Pols:


Fed ki Rafa ki comparison endhi ? Fed game chooda muchatagaa vuntundhi,grace vuntundhi, aah Rafa gaadi game Jr NTR dances lekka dhabidi dhibidi anthey
 

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Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2017 - 01:37 pm:       

//No body talks about the mental block if any whenever Nadal appeared on the other side of the court?
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Yes Roger for Sure had this Mental block for Most of the Part of his Career whenever he Played him and that Mental block is a Result of his One sided losses on Clay during the early part of their Rivalry.

Another thing is Rafa being a Leftie easily used to Target his backhand on regular intervals and Roger had to run around to convert them to his forehand and in the process loosing those extra seconds and also whenever he played the cross court backhand it was going straight into Rafa's Strong Zone :D

Now with the Newer More Potent Version of his Backhand, Its No longer a Liability for him and Infact he is Ripping anything that's coming to his backhand and Rafa can no longer go that side instead this Year Rafa is feeling Much More comfortable going to Rogers Forehand :d
 

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Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2017 - 01:30 pm:       

//what are your thoughts on this year London year end tourney......even Rafa is not guranteed anukunta......Fed ki direct ga iccheyochu...//

For Now Rafa is Playing and Thana Injury Nunchi Heal Avaaneeki They gave him one Extra Day and Scheduled his Opening Match on Tuesday and Roger Opens on Monday.

However If Rafa Is Playing the Group Stage Matches will be Pretty Comfortable for him as he will be Playing against Thiem, Goffin and Dimi. All 3 are Real Pushovers Hwvr Dimi Playing a little better this Season

Roger will Play his Group Stage Matches against Cilic, Sock and Zverev. A Tougher Group in Relative Sense as it is having One Slam Winner, One Slam Finalist and the Latest Masters 1000 (PARIS) Winner from this Season.

Having Said that If Rafa is Playing then Its Sure Shot It will be Roger Vs Rafa in the Finals and Roger Lifting the Year End Title for one More Time :-)
 

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Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2017 - 01:26 pm:       

No body talks about the mental block if any whenever Nadal appeared on the other side of the court?


Anyways....Fed to come back like this year is a great feat......at this age.....i dont want find ways to think that on a nindu pournami.....day.....he would have beaten Nadal....because Nadal can see less on left eye on those nights....


endi vayya idhi....



If not for Nadal's injuries......who would have thought him not winnning GS
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
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Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2017 - 01:23 pm:       

Fed was on top form when Rafa turned tables forever in that wimbledon final 2008 ....no one thought Nadal would beat him on grass....
and then rest is history,,,,,
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
-- Aristotle
 

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Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2017 - 01:22 pm:       

nadal use to take advantage of federer's BH, but not any more now. fed game plans enduko fail ayyayi clay meeda. eimbledon gross meeda okasari over confidence to odipoyadu. even first set gelichina taruvatha kooda French open lo still 4 sets lo vodipoyadu. nadal kanuka okka 3 years late ga vasthe GS lu records motha mogi poyi undevi fed ki
 

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Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2017 - 01:20 pm:       

2005-2007 - A Million Matches on clay
2008 to early 2009 - Federer plays like s**t, Nadal in form - they play 5 times
Mid 2009 to Early 2010 - Nadal plays like s**t, Federer in form - they play 0 times
Federer starts playing like s**t, Nadal plays best
Federer plays like s**t through most of the first 9 months, Nadal in form - they play 3 times including twice on clay
2013 - Federer injured throughout most of the season - they play 4 times
2015 - Federer in form, Nadal s**t - they play only once
 

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Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2017 - 01:15 pm:       

its all about who the champ beats in front of them....be it Fed or Rafa.....why this....hand picking of Fed's bad patch and other guy's good patch....

one thing is for sure....head to head will stay in stats....forever.....


what are your thoughts on this year London year end tourney......even Rafa is not guranteed anukunta......Fed ki direct ga iccheyochu...
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
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Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2017 - 01:13 pm:       

matti muddala meeda ..kandala poragadu gada gada laadinchadu antav..anthena
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thokka lendi raju gaaru....

Tennis natural surfaces meedha adedhey French and Wimbledon lo....

migatha rendu chotla.....artificial surface recording dance ye kadha......
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
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Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2017 - 01:11 pm:       

//matti muddala meeda ..kandala poragadu gada gada laadinchadu antav..anthena//

Annai, Okasariga Chadivithe Oka 4-5 Boothulaa Anipinchayi aa Wordings :D
 

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Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2017 - 11:38 am:       


Pols:

Clay : Nadal 13 - 2 Federer




matti muddala meeda ..kandala poragadu gada gada laadinchadu antav..anthena :D
 

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Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2017 - 11:26 am:       

Out of the 38 Matches they Squared up against Each other, 25 Matches were played on Rafa's Fav/Preferred Surface to 13 Matches on Roger's Fav/Preferred Surface ;-)
 

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Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2017 - 11:25 am:       

Clay : Nadal 13 - 2 Federer
Hardcours : Federer 11 - 9 Nadal
Grass : Federer 2 - 1 Nadal

Overall : Nadal 23 - 15 Federer.
It No Longer Looks that bad and a Year ago it was 23-10 Which was Completely lopsided :d
 

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Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2017 - 11:09 am:       

what ever makes u happy...
 

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Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2017 - 11:00 am:       

Like Rafa, If Roger also Lost In Early Rounds in His Bad Years then The H2H Record Would be Pretty Even :D
 

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Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2017 - 10:59 am:       

As Many of You already Know Rafa Leads Roger by a Big Margin when it comes to H2H Record. Thanks to 2017 and 5 Consecutive Wins by Roger over Rafa Now that Big Margin has come down to a Decent Margin ;-)

Actually If You Closely look at Roger and Rafa's H2H Stats It was Never that bad as It was Made out to be. It all boils down to Two Worst Years Roger had ever in his Career (2008 and 2013). 2013 ayithe by far his Worst year in his Entire Career when he was even loosing to Players outside of Top-50 in Straight Sets.

Even in Such a bad Year, He was able to go deep into the Tournaments and he is setting up Matches against Rafa and Rafa defeated him 4 Straight times that Year.

Similarly 2015 is Rafa's Worst Year ever however in Rafa's bad year he wasn't even going deep into the Tournaments and that way avoided Squaring up against Roger and That whole Year Roger and Rafa didn't even meet once

So basically in Roger's bad years he was going deep into the tournaments and thus squaring up with Rafa and when the same happened to Rafa (Bad Years Like 2015) he didn't reciprocate the favor as he was loosing in Either R1 or R2 ;-)

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